@@VinayVarsani I completely overlooked that he had the original. Might be better not to have the metal loops of the original in the mold but he could 100% forgo the 3D printing step.
@@VinayVarsani Yeah, I feel like this is one of those "when all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail" type situations. Like, "I have a 3D printer. I can definitely print a fishing lure" and you never stop and think if that's the most effective way. Either way, though, this turned out pretty good
One thing I like to do when I am putting 3d printed half together is to make some 1.8mm holes in both sides in the drawing and then use lengths of 1.75mm filament bits as the pegs for the holes. It really helps get stuff to line up.
When I was a kid, I carved all kinds of crankbaits to try out. Oldtimer said to use nail polish to finish, so I did. Still have a couple knocking around.
The action is determined by the way the bill directs water. It looks like the geometry is slightly off versus the original. Maybe widen the bill and thicken up the taper underneath it, and you should be solid. I look forward to trying out this 3d mesh software to see if I can recreate blanks of some of my lures, so I can custom paint them without losing the ones I already have
Holy crap, you should check our Marling Baits here on TH-cam. I have been binging his videos then you uploaded this. Was not expecting lures on the 3d printed fan channel lol 🤣
The fan showdown is a lot of fun, but this right here is the meat and potatoes of why I got a 3D printer -- printing things that no longer exist, or do exist but not in the configuration that I need/want, or something that doesn't exist but should. Great job recreating the lure, especially for a first try!
I don't think PLA is going to be a problem. I made a new dome shaped cover to one light i broke in a crane. Printed it with transparent PLA and it's going strong for five years now. It lives in the elements, it's gotten plenty of sun exposure, it's eaten metric tons o road salt, it's been in +30 and -30.
I agree. PLA is much better material than many people think. I have made multiple lures with PLA and they work perfectly. I even installed the hook holders with just epoxy (no "through hull" like in this video) and none have failed so far). PETG is not good material in this application, as it's really difficult to paint.
Well like you mentioned with the paint, maybe airbrush another one without the sparkles, but maybe layer with that with bright blues and pinks add your dots, one lure that pops out to me are the rainbow trout color schemes on many spoons and spinner lures. I think you have a pretty functional lure and will be more effective than you think. I hope you make a couple more in different materials maybe.
I think part of the issues you encountered with both scanning options is that the object was one color. If it had a grid, and somehow a pattern which helped visualize its depth you might have faired better. Either way, great result, and cool software!
neat, maybe look around the house for simple things to replace, speaker covers, end caps, lower shell on a laptop for better airflow maybe, flush button on the toilet etc.
I want to see that bad boy in action for SURE! Thanks for always making cool content, always light up a little when I see you have a new video on my feed.
I just picked up the Elegoo Mars 3 resin 3D printer that just came out. It is the same size as the Mars 2 but with a 4K LCD. This thing rocks. The print quality is crazy good. Mostly I am printing Warhammer models, but also HO scale train bodies, D&D miniatures, and likely as my grand daughter gets older, figurines or furniture for the old doll house. I had 2 days of mostly screw-ups and 3 days of near perfect prints. Now these re not big... and not fast as a fan would need to be tipped up and would likely take10 hours to print, but they are smooth. I get none of the print lines you get with filament printing. The Investment up front was no bad. I got the printer, the wash/cure station, 2 1000g bottles of resin, 6 bottles of 91% IPA, a plastic jug with a basket to pre-wash the models, some plastic putty knives, a 6 pack of paper towel, a 50 pack of gloves, 3 craft trays, and a 1" paint brush (for cleanup). Total was bout $650. I got about $240 in models printed out of the first bottle, so this printer is going to pay for itself FAST.
The hooks will change the wiggle a bit but it looks like its moving well. Great first attempt. The classic white BIG-O was always our favorite as it rattled too. It's hard to find these days.
Great job, nice walk-through of your thought process and creation while giving us a history lesson. Never tested how well nail polish cures to prevent any smell from being released, especially in water. Depending on the contents, it can be a bit toxic as well. If the lure doesn't perform well, try a different coating.
G'day Major, I've been thinking about being able to make Australian Parts for 1:24 Model Kits by Mirroring & 3D Printing, I haven't looked into buying a Printer as I have been stifled by how to create The 3D Image without a big budget so this is very interesting, Thanks for sharing & will look into it. Wishing You, Cooper & all your family a Happy, Healthy & Safe 2022
hey you could try to plasti dip the lure or anything next time in order to scan it. Black plasti dip dries matte so it should help and the paint is peelable without causing damage
Wet/dry sand paper over the nail polish for a better finish. My only real concern is the curve of the internal wire. It may cause a lot of internal stress and split the bait. If possible, could you make the wire straight from one end to the other?
I would think PLA will be just fine, it doesn't degrade much in water anyway, the stress is being carried by the wire "backbone" and the nail varnish coating will protect it - its quite waterproof. Maybe PETG might be an idea for future experiments. Its been many years since I fished with a lure, but I recall being told the main thing is the size, motion and patterns moving about, fish are instinctive and won't care too much about the quality of the finish :) And of course, now you have the pattern you can make several for your Dad with all kinds of finishes! This is a great video re: Meshroom, I haven't heard about it before, I might make some kind of turntable and see if I can use it to scan something. I have zero skill with mesh editing but I guess this would be a learning opportunity.....
Dude this isn't fair... this is the third channel I've subscribed to that happens chance to have something to do with being an angler just today.... I lost my grandfather a few days ago and long story short... he was my dad and he taught me how to fish... so in short form.. quit making me feel, he'd kick my ass.
We use a product meant for dye penetrant called developer to put a matte white coating on products, and it is easily removable. It's consistency is more like a powder.
So knowing absolutely nothing about 3D rendering, I'm guessing that eliminating as much background clutter while scanning (ie. uniform backdrop) would help in the long run with rendering time? Or is it more to do with how many pictures are taken?
I have done some fishing lures whit the same type off solution whit the wire . But instead off glue it together I told the printer to stop on a specific layer height and put in the wire. Then a let it finish the print and just put some glue where the wire came out to seal it works great ! Have even done the same when I put in weight too the lure.
Very good first prototype, impressive! I wonder if anyone else uninformed about the original thought like me that it was the other way around, with the spoon at the back?
so much efforts for something that could have been modeled in 10min… Concerning the finished product performances, honestly I think it will perform quite well ! Maybe even better than the original, because black offer a better contrast against the sky and it looks like it wiggle a bit more !
Wondering if electroplating might result in a water tight outer coating? Thanks for the heads-up on meshroom, your fellow Under-Rock citizens appreciate it!
For making things less shiny so you can scan them... you don't need to paint them, you just need to dust the object to reduce the shine so it stands out to the device you are using. Most use some sort of fine Talc powder.
I think if you made one and then made a mold and casted it it would be better for making a bunch... But since you have multiple 3D printers, an even more interesting method might be directly printing the mold, and then sealing it with a gasket that was printed in a more malleable/rubbery filament. Then you could just cast it.
Tried painting on some resin? Or, redo the 2 halves, leave more open space in the center. And leave a bit of wire floating on the inside freely. Should help create tiny vibrations . Also, doesn't Solidworks have CFD or FEI tools that could be used to see how it would move in the water?
Missed an opportunity to call the video "Gone fishing" 🤣 So nail polish; would it smoothen the surface, if you suspended the lure in a acetone vapour for a while? 🤔
Hi. I am viewing it with a different angle(r).It seem like good enough but there are a couple of things that I don't understand because of my limited 3d experience: first one is why you havent printed it around the metal skeleton and instead you choose to print two half and then glue them together?
I think when you painted it, you shoud've slathered the crap out of the nail paint. You nailed it. Could've tumble sanded it if you had access to a tumbler (rock/ammo tumbler). MI Native and USAF vet, go catch them dogfish!!!
I don't know how well the lure it will work🤷♀️. The 'odour' (or flavour I guess) of the polish may keep the fish away. But it seems to function well enough.
I would have printed it in black ABS and fused the two halves together with acetone. Then dipped the entire thing in acetone to seal it and get that shiny gloss black look you were looking for.
Major, PLEASE get in touch with Marling Baits here on youtube for a collab!!! His videos are funny, gives an insiders view of bait making and he has a lot of talent. Even just a one time collab would epic!
You need to tilt the tow loop tiny bit to the right. It was diving to the left. The original needs adjusting also, but to the other way. I have made thousands of crankbaits and i immidietly saw the swim is not tuned right
When I was a kid, I used to make a slurry from dirt and water. It would stick to things and was easy to clean. Have you tried this trick with your shiny parts?
A good way to do a really good finish on the lure, use a clear UV Resin. It will harden really good, hold up against fish, and help keep the lure from falling apart.
Probably be a good project to print in resin (one piece), Make a mold of it and cast in epoxy around the stainless steel back bone.
Came to say this :D
I was gonna suggest instead make a silicone mold of the original and then embed the stainless wire
@@VinayVarsani I completely overlooked that he had the original. Might be better not to have the metal loops of the original in the mold but he could 100% forgo the 3D printing step.
@@VinayVarsani Yeah, I feel like this is one of those "when all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail" type situations. Like, "I have a 3D printer. I can definitely print a fishing lure" and you never stop and think if that's the most effective way.
Either way, though, this turned out pretty good
That completely overlook the critical requirement that it has to float
I feel like the cooling capabilities aren't going to be too good. I predict throttling
@@barnett25 It is but there's not enough surface area on the radiator. Either way, I'm sure phishers are going to love it.
@@barnett25 This has gone to far!
One thing I like to do when I am putting 3d printed half together is to make some 1.8mm holes in both sides in the drawing and then use lengths of 1.75mm filament bits as the pegs for the holes. It really helps get stuff to line up.
neat idea
When I was a kid, I carved all kinds of crankbaits to try out. Oldtimer said to use nail polish to finish, so I did. Still have a couple knocking around.
FYI in meshroom you can enable a bounding box after the SFM so the dense construction will only contain the thing you want!!!
The action is determined by the way the bill directs water. It looks like the geometry is slightly off versus the original. Maybe widen the bill and thicken up the taper underneath it, and you should be solid. I look forward to trying out this 3d mesh software to see if I can recreate blanks of some of my lures, so I can custom paint them without losing the ones I already have
Bit of rounding where the bill tapers.
This is great. I want more of everything like this... Fishing results included!
Tip for the future, baby powder or chalk powder to get rid of the shine temporarily.
Holy crap, you should check our Marling Baits here on TH-cam. I have been binging his videos then you uploaded this. Was not expecting lures on the 3d printed fan channel lol 🤣
The fan showdown is a lot of fun, but this right here is the meat and potatoes of why I got a 3D printer -- printing things that no longer exist, or do exist but not in the configuration that I need/want, or something that doesn't exist but should.
Great job recreating the lure, especially for a first try!
Just my $0.02 if you wanted a good quality one, i'd make silicone molds of the two halves and replicate them in 2 part epoxy resin.
Nice work!
I’d love to see you fish with this.
Try diluting the polish or spraying acetone dilution on it to smooth it
that would melt the PLA
@@marcogenovesi8570 maybe not, as the solvent in the nail polish didn't dissolve the lure on the first coat.
Nail polish is such a tough paint for small jobs. Who knew. (I Use it to touch up white hvac fixtures that get scratched during installation)
@@marcogenovesi8570 what if you diluted it with rubbing alcohol
I don't think PLA is going to be a problem. I made a new dome shaped cover to one light i broke in a crane. Printed it with transparent PLA and it's going strong for five years now. It lives in the elements, it's gotten plenty of sun exposure, it's eaten metric tons o road salt, it's been in +30 and -30.
I agree. PLA is much better material than many people think. I have made multiple lures with PLA and they work perfectly. I even installed the hook holders with just epoxy (no "through hull" like in this video) and none have failed so far). PETG is not good material in this application, as it's really difficult to paint.
Plasti-dip is perfect for this use case. It would peel right off when you're done
Well like you mentioned with the paint, maybe airbrush another one without the sparkles, but maybe layer with that with bright blues and pinks add your dots, one lure that pops out to me are the rainbow trout color schemes on many spoons and spinner lures. I think you have a pretty functional lure and will be more effective than you think. I hope you make a couple more in different materials maybe.
Looks and acts great, hopefully your dad will love it.
I think part of the issues you encountered with both scanning options is that the object was one color. If it had a grid, and somehow a pattern which helped visualize its depth you might have faired better.
Either way, great result, and cool software!
Dude you are literally the best to watch 🙌
He is awesome
@@volvo09 agreed!!!
I still everyday-fish an old Garcia-Mitchell 409 Ultralight. This old gear is great! I love that I can easily disassemble and repair my reel.
For sure you can catch with that. And yes we need a fishing video with that.
neat, maybe look around the house for simple things to replace, speaker covers, end caps, lower shell on a laptop for better airflow maybe, flush button on the toilet etc.
I want to see that bad boy in action for SURE! Thanks for always making cool content, always light up a little when I see you have a new video on my feed.
I just picked up the Elegoo Mars 3 resin 3D printer that just came out. It is the same size as the Mars 2 but with a 4K LCD. This thing rocks. The print quality is crazy good. Mostly I am printing Warhammer models, but also HO scale train bodies, D&D miniatures, and likely as my grand daughter gets older, figurines or furniture for the old doll house. I had 2 days of mostly screw-ups and 3 days of near perfect prints. Now these re not big... and not fast as a fan would need to be tipped up and would likely take10 hours to print, but they are smooth. I get none of the print lines you get with filament printing. The Investment up front was no bad. I got the printer, the wash/cure station, 2 1000g bottles of resin, 6 bottles of 91% IPA, a plastic jug with a basket to pre-wash the models, some plastic putty knives, a 6 pack of paper towel, a 50 pack of gloves, 3 craft trays, and a 1" paint brush (for cleanup). Total was bout $650. I got about $240 in models printed out of the first bottle, so this printer is going to pay for itself FAST.
The hooks will change the wiggle a bit but it looks like its moving well. Great first attempt. The classic white BIG-O was always our favorite as it rattled too. It's hard to find these days.
Oh, fellow Michigander. It's amazing how many of us are out there battling the cabin fever.
Great job, nice walk-through of your thought process and creation while giving us a history lesson. Never tested how well nail polish cures to prevent any smell from being released, especially in water. Depending on the contents, it can be a bit toxic as well. If the lure doesn't perform well, try a different coating.
My three loves are my Computer, my guitar, and my fishin pole. This video was great and i definitely want to see the real world use of this durpy tad.
I cant wait to see the first major hardware fishing video.
I want to see the tiny tad in action! Can't wait!
Definitely looking forward to the video showing how well it works.
G'day Major,
I've been thinking about being able to make Australian Parts for 1:24 Model Kits by Mirroring & 3D Printing, I haven't looked into buying a Printer as I have been stifled by how to create The 3D Image without a big budget so this is very interesting, Thanks for sharing & will look into it.
Wishing You, Cooper & all your family a Happy, Healthy & Safe 2022
hey you could try to plasti dip the lure or anything next time in order to scan it. Black plasti dip dries matte so it should help and the paint is peelable without causing damage
Great job !!! Make more like this. If you enjoyed making this surprise your dad with another old style bait that he likes.
This was very cool, love to see the process of problem solving
Wet/dry sand paper over the nail polish for a better finish. My only real concern is the curve of the internal wire. It may cause a lot of internal stress and split the bait. If possible, could you make the wire straight from one end to the other?
I would think PLA will be just fine, it doesn't degrade much in water anyway, the stress is being carried by the wire "backbone" and the nail varnish coating will protect it - its quite waterproof. Maybe PETG might be an idea for future experiments. Its been many years since I fished with a lure, but I recall being told the main thing is the size, motion and patterns moving about, fish are instinctive and won't care too much about the quality of the finish :) And of course, now you have the pattern you can make several for your Dad with all kinds of finishes!
This is a great video re: Meshroom, I haven't heard about it before, I might make some kind of turntable and see if I can use it to scan something. I have zero skill with mesh editing but I guess this would be a learning opportunity.....
It'll be fine, PLA especially painted is pretty dam resilient.
Lure lore!
For the 3D scan, you could've tried using some small round stickers from your nearest stationery store. It might've picked up the features better.
Dude this isn't fair... this is the third channel I've subscribed to that happens chance to have something to do with being an angler just today.... I lost my grandfather a few days ago and long story short... he was my dad and he taught me how to fish... so in short form.. quit making me feel, he'd kick my ass.
We use a product meant for dye penetrant called developer to put a matte white coating on products, and it is easily removable. It's consistency is more like a powder.
oh now THIS is different! this is some hardware i'm into, honestly. can't wait to see if you actually test it or not!
Awesome video and application
Would love to see it in use!
I still use vintage heddon and flatfish lures. Never thought of printing anything like this, seems like this could be very promising
Derpy-Bobber is a wonderful name for it.
So knowing absolutely nothing about 3D rendering, I'm guessing that eliminating as much background clutter while scanning (ie. uniform backdrop) would help in the long run with rendering time? Or is it more to do with how many pictures are taken?
You're right, the render should be much easier to compile if the object has a solid color backsplash.
I have done some fishing lures whit the same type off solution whit the wire . But instead off glue it together I told the printer to stop on a specific layer height and put in the wire. Then a let it finish the print and just put some glue where the wire came out to seal it works great ! Have even done the same when I put in weight too the lure.
The lore of the lure!!
Yes. The Lure Lore!
Bro!! I love this! Huge fisherman here. Don't get me wrong. Im here for the fan showdown, but this is awesome!! Thank you!
Nice Wrecking Ball!!!
"robots hate looking at shiny shit".... I don't know why but I'm dying laughing over here at that sentence 😅
Very good first prototype, impressive!
I wonder if anyone else uninformed about the original thought like me that it was the other way around, with the spoon at the back?
It works rather well. Awesome! Make some MORE! 😁 Could you put the wire on the bed while it prints it?
so much efforts for something that could have been modeled in 10min…
Concerning the finished product performances, honestly I think it will perform quite well ! Maybe even better than the original, because black offer a better contrast against the sky and it looks like it wiggle a bit more !
The fish in the tank looking at the durpy tad 👁️👄👁️
Keen to see how it goes.
Wondering if electroplating might result in a water tight outer coating?
Thanks for the heads-up on meshroom, your fellow Under-Rock citizens appreciate it!
Definitely think it'll work close enough to the original... But this is a prime case for resin printing
For making things less shiny so you can scan them... you don't need to paint them, you just need to dust the object to reduce the shine so it stands out to the device you are using.
Most use some sort of fine Talc powder.
I'll always recognize the ESRGAN baboon.
I think if you made one and then made a mold and casted it it would be better for making a bunch... But since you have multiple 3D printers, an even more interesting method might be directly printing the mold, and then sealing it with a gasket that was printed in a more malleable/rubbery filament.
Then you could just cast it.
Tried painting on some resin? Or, redo the 2 halves, leave more open space in the center. And leave a bit of wire floating on the inside freely. Should help create tiny vibrations . Also, doesn't Solidworks have CFD or FEI tools that could be used to see how it would move in the water?
Two seconds in: Wrecking Ball deserved his nerf! Carry on
Definitely film the fishing!
Missed an opportunity to call the video "Gone fishing" 🤣
So nail polish; would it smoothen the surface, if you suspended the lure in a acetone vapour for a while? 🤔
Acetone dissolves nail polish, if you want to give it a more smooth finish I would try vapour smoothing with acetone like you can do with ABS prints.
Hi. I am viewing it with a different angle(r).It seem like good enough but there are a couple of things that I don't understand because of my limited 3d experience: first one is why you havent printed it around the metal skeleton and instead you choose to print two half and then glue them together?
You sir... have given me the final excuse I need to buy a 3d printer. Oh crap, this isn't the description section.
What I learned today:
1) 3D scanners hate shiny stuff
2) Fish like shiny stuff
I think when you painted it, you shoud've slathered the crap out of the nail paint. You nailed it. Could've tumble sanded it if you had access to a tumbler (rock/ammo tumbler). MI Native and USAF vet, go catch them dogfish!!!
I don't know how well the lure it will work🤷♀️. The 'odour' (or flavour I guess) of the polish may keep the fish away. But it seems to function well enough.
Waiting for someone to turn derpy tad into a fan
I do want an update later! Show us the Fishing!
lure lore
lure lore
Hell yeah Pog content! You took all my favorite things and put them into one vid!
first lol was shocked to find it as you uploaded
i like your videos and engaging with them
I would have printed it in black ABS and fused the two halves together with acetone. Then dipped the entire thing in acetone to seal it and get that shiny gloss black look you were looking for.
I've been experimenting in 3d lures, I'll have to try this thank you
So many TH-camrs I watch turn out to be from my home state, small world.
You have to take it fishing!
Major, PLEASE get in touch with Marling Baits here on youtube for a collab!!! His videos are funny, gives an insiders view of bait making and he has a lot of talent. Even just a one time collab would epic!
You need to tilt the tow loop tiny bit to the right. It was diving to the left.
The original needs adjusting also, but to the other way.
I have made thousands of crankbaits and i immidietly saw the swim is not tuned right
A good seal can be achieved with superglue, and you can then paint on top of that
Cool project! Will you post the STL files to thingiverse?
Yeah I think it would be cool to see if it actually worked so if you’re going in the summer, definitely bring the camera.
When I was a kid, I used to make a slurry from dirt and water. It would stick to things and was easy to clean. Have you tried this trick with your shiny parts?
I wonder if you make the room dark with light on the object for the scanning would work?
I would love to see the testing of this.
meshroom, thank you.
A good way to do a really good finish on the lure, use a clear UV Resin. It will harden really good, hold up against fish, and help keep the lure from falling apart.
I'm from the Detroit area. I can agree that it's too cold.
Yeah man go fishin!!!
Please update with a fishing video, when the weather allows it!
Do a Marlinbaits collaboration and also please make more bait videos!
You definitely should’ve used a larger nozzle on your air brush after thinning it out a bit.
Was thinking of a deck of cards fanned out. I think it might be very difficult to achieve
"fish like shiney shit" 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂