Wilde-Tuned Harmonica Review
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ก.ค. 2020
- A review of my new Seydel Session Steel with the Wilde-tuned, uh, tuning.
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I just "discovered" this harp from a FB post by Will... yes indeed... he is badass... I will be purchasing a Wilde in the future... when funds allow.
Great presentation, Tim! Very entertaining and informative! Thanks.
I haven't tried it, but I agree with you. I think it is easier to play than a regular diatonic and much more pleasing to play
man I appreciate this review, helped me a lot making a decision.... great insight/information.
@ Bone Daddy well... lemme just say this - as one old dog to another, those new tricks are tough. This harp tuning has major promise, but after a few weeks, I just couldn't quite get my mind wrapped around it to where I could make it sound smooth. And THEN, going back to my "regular" diatonics, I was all turned around on them, too. Oh, the humanity.
all your reviews are good reviews thanks
That was like a back handed compliment
Your review showed on my recommendations here hours after I watched a long interview with Will, at "Harmonica UK". Here it is, it's hilarious and informative, I thought you'd like it. He tells how he came up with this specific tuning: there was a "123" project, a "456" project, and he still has the harps! Here: th-cam.com/video/F_aFm2_lkhw/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for your review, always on point. I agree with you, it's a seriously cool toy, one I seriously consider a switch to, in the future.
Very honest review ! I got a session steel in the key of D and yep they are more expensive but they have stainless steel reeds which makes them last a lot longer than all the other brass reeded harps... that's why they are more expensive... if it last longer then you don't have to buy another harp or reeds as much !
helpfull awesome - thanx bro
For playing the mid range hohners and I'll get my hands on easttop, but gonna collect higher end stuff, imo for collection purpose prolly worth the money
very good review tim, to be honest i really don't like seydel. don't like anything about them but you did a fine job of demonstrating the various characteristics of the instrument. if there was one redeeming quality in the seydel harp for me your review would certainly steer me toward taking a flyer on one.
Thanx, Blitz. The primary redeeming factor is the tuning which IS interesting. I wouldn't get one otherwise. Kinda wish Will Wilde had partnered with a different company, like Suzuki for example, or like Brendan Power did with Easthop, but so it goes!
@@Tim48103 Yeah, I've been really happy with the Suzuki harps I got, like the promaster and olive. The olives are selling around $40 on ebay right now, along with the manjis, and I think they compete really well at that price. Only $10 more than a bluesmaster or harpmaster.
Hi Tim! Is there a difference playing stainless steel? Like does it take more air to bend notes then it does with brass or bronze?
I've had a few of the Seydel steel-reeded harps and no, the reeds themselves are about as responsive as brass or bronze phosphor, maybe just the teensiest bit "stiffer". They're meant to last longer, but I can't really speak to that since I don't play them very much
@@Tim48103 Thanks Tim! I really don't think they should be priced as much as they are! I just bought a eastop blues harmonica, the only thing I don't like is the mouth peice. I can't get a good embrachure, so I took the cover plates off an old big river harp and swapped them! Now that's go to harp! $20 dollar harp! Lol
@@paulcook68 The Easttop is a fine harp - I have a bunch of them in my gig bag - in fact, was playing my Easttop Low F today in rehearsal. Honestly, they're my call for best harp per dollar on the market.
@@paulcook68 Any MS series covers will fit the Easttop's T008 series. Minor adjustment to the support tabs and good to go. I swap out for MS series Blues Harp covers, makes the perfect Frankenharp. I agree, the shape of *most* of Easttop's diatonics covers are not great, too bunched up. Painted covers are bad, too, another reason to swap covers.
@@roberttemple2521 I wondered about painted cover plates too..
Don’t short change yourself brother you are a baddass player too!
I’m trying to decide between the Wilde tuning and the powerbender.
Both have pros and cons but I’m trying to make my mind up since I’m dropping $110 on the 1847.
Have you played the powerbender? Do you find the Wilde tuning is pretty intuitive?
Thanks
@@cincinnatipedalsteel4347 hey, thanks. I have not played the power bender, no, so I can't comment on their relative benefits. Yes, the Wilde tuning is intuitive and easy to learn. But, get a low key. In the vid I use an A, and even that is hard to use in the upper octave. I would imagine a C harp would be a bear. So if you're gonna go for it, get a Bb or lower.... Cheers!
Can you give the groove tab on 2:19 seconds ? Thanks in advance.
oh boy - not sure if I can or not - BUT it's a riff I copied from Adam Gussow's video where he's busking outside of what looks like a grocery store. He does it much better than I do - and you might be able to slow the video down and get a good feel for it. Here's the link: th-cam.com/video/l-E3qQ59VcQ/w-d-xo.html
@@Tim48103 I saw the video before , Adam was amazing as you too , I've seen every harmonica review from your channel . Actually I can do the last line I mean the 1,2,3 hole played in a triplate way But I can't understand the first line .. is it 1 draw then 2 draw bend or something ? I am trying but not getting the exact sound . So need that tabs
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@@anandaarju7517 okay, let's see. I think it's this: 1 draw, 2 blow, 2 draw, 3 full step bend draw, 2 draw, 2 full step bend draw, 1 draw, 2 draw. Then the chords on 123 - ya da (draw), blow blow draw. Give that a go and see what you think...
@@Tim48103 Thank you so much .. let me try first ... Yeee.. ❤️❤️❤️
Believe me, when I was harmonica shopping for a good beginner instrument, I noticed how much more expensive Seydels were than all the other major brands. Worse than Hohner in that regard.
Yeah, not for the economically faint-at-heart. I was curious about the tuning, tho, so I got one. For regular-tuned diatonics, there are TONS of cheaper alternatives that play as well or better. Still, Seydel has it's die-hard followers, so I guess there's something there - maybe I"m just too thick to see it.
I'd be curious what Lee Oskar thinks of the special tuned Wilde harmonicas?
I don't really know much about Lee Oskar the player, but "his" harmonicas come in a variety of specialty tunings, so my guess is he'd at least be supportive of them....
Is this similar to a half valved harmonica?
No - this is a different tuning completely - the valved harps (usually) are standard diatonic tuning, but include valves to (presumably) make various bends easier. The Wilde-Tuned harp here doesn't include valves.
@@Tim48103 oh yeah I know the layout is different. So is bending on the 8 draw and other high notes easier on this compared to a half valved harmonica?
@@chickenman7252 well, they're draw bends up there with the Wilde tuning whereas the typical bends above hole 7 on a diatonic are blow bends (overdraws on 7 and 9 notwithstanding). If you're wondering if the notes provided by the 7 ad 9 ODs on a normal harp are easier to obtain on the Wilde harp using "normal" bending techniques, then yes, they are, but it's still not a cakewalk - those are some short little reeds up there, lol.
@@Tim48103 well the half valved harmonicas also allow you to do draw bends on the 7,8, and 10 draws. Although it's only down a semitone and they're pretty damn tough as well since you can't over bend it.
@@chickenman7252 oh I see - well, to be honest, I've only ever had one - I think it was a Fender Hot Rod Deville - and it made flappy noises I didn't like, so I tore the valves off, which basically left me with an expensive Easttop T008k with a different cover plate design. So I guess I'll backpedal and amend my answer to: I'm not really sure!
Yo Tim I bought a cheap little $10 harp on Amazon called the focus sound thunder classic I got it in the key of c and it plays pretty damn good as a matter of fact I like it better than the lee Oskar I have. But it's not better than the almighty dabell story I have
If you’re looking for a cheap but high quality harmonica that doesn’t leak air like crazy and actually plays and bends really well, get an “easttop 008k.” To be honest, for $10, that harp is not going to be good. I don’t know how far along you are in your harmonica journey but that’s just too cheap to be a good harp. Having a harmonica like that will limit your playing and make you think that your technique is the problem when in fact, the harp is limiting you. This is especially true for learning bends and god forbid, overblows. I don’t know if it’s even possible to overblow a $10 harp.
The easttop 008k is a 25 dollar harp that you can get on Amazon and it was the first harp I ever used. I quickly upgraded to a marine band crossover which is 3 times the price and to be honest, I had buyers remorse. The crossover was only the tiniest bit better and at 3 times the price, that’s simply not worth it. The easttop is quite frankly a truly amazing product. The value you get for that price is unbelievable and you could genuinely use only that one harp all the way up to a professional level and never be held back by the instrument. The product actually won an award in China for its design, quality, and overall value. It was voted as the most innovative and efficiently manufactured product in the country when it was first released. Truly impressive.
I highly recommend that if a harp player is NOT a professional, just get a bunch of different keyed easttops so that you can explore different keys. For beginners, all the up to upper-intermediate level players, being able to explore different keys is far more important than having an overblow capable harp like a good Hohner crossover or a seydel 1847.
If you’re a beginner, get an easttop in C, Bb, and A. Then later maybe get a G and D. Learn how to gap your reeds optimally so that you can get the most out of those harps. Then, use those harmonicas until you can bend every single note perfectly and are able to overblow hole 6 with a good, clean, loud tone. Once you get to that level, just go straight to buying a blue moon custom, or other similar custom harmonica maker, I just say blue moon because it’s my opinion that they sell the best quality product for the price. They are $200. This is the way that I believe is the most efficient way to spend your money on your harmonica journey. You can always learn to customize your own harmonicas to a high level as well but it takes a lot of time and a lot of effort just to develop the knowledge to do the work and the work itself can also be tedious and boring so it’s definitely not for everyone.
@@giusepperesponte8077 yes sir I have some eastops. I'm an advance intermediate player. I have hohner, konsheng, dabell, Lee Oskar, fender blues DeVille and bushman Delta Frost harps. I've tried many harp brands and the East top is the best value for the price
I rip on this because I don’t think about the transition.
Will plays harp like a rock guitarist 👍. I would be interested in the Wilde tuning if it were made by Hohner.
He's awesome, no question. I think the tuning is cool, too, but I've been playing normal tuning for too long to get my mind wrapped around new tricks. And yeah, the Seydel thing... but Hohner doesn't do much in the way of novelty tuning, so here we are.
@@Tim48103 Indeed! ✌️
Powerbender harmonica
This is the easiest harp to play.
The bottom is doubled. Freebird is easy to play for me because it’s so intuitive. I use these extensively now. If you approach this from a their point of view you freak yourself out. If just play along with Will you’ll get it instantly
Will is a monster, I couldn't even begin to think about tackling Freebird like he does, lol. But yeah, the tuning is cool, and I think if I had started on these, I'd never have stopped. Cheers!
Wacky?
Your no will wilde
No I am not. There are only really two that are, and one of 'em is Will Wilde himself.
@@Tim48103 Will is amazing musician and improviser, But his manner can be played on an electric guitar with less effort to extract that sound. This is no longer the sound of an harmonica , not its character. It's a pity, but he is so grate musician that over jumped the possibilities of the harmonica
@@bgdn5 True - but listen to him back up his sister Dani on her album - pure country harp - he's quite multifaceted in his approach. For his own stuff "rock blues" or whatever he calls it, yes, I'd agree, he's skipped harmonica and gone on to something completely different.
Your a tad weird
Guilty as charged.
@@Tim48103 of course I've been charged for that too, hahaha
This isn’t a toy. It blows a diatonic out of the water.
Learn how to play it before reviewing it
Oh relax - they're all toys, more or less, just ask any sax player, lol. Anyway, this is a positive review - the only thing keeping me from using these harps more regularly is 40+ years of muscle memory that expects other things in the upper octave.
You make a living with harmonica? No? It’s a toy for you too…