A couple of little points from actual experience with the pistol. I was a police officer in Virginia in the late 80's and through the 90's working part-time for small town departments in the south of the state that required me to supply my own sidearm. I also had my own range about 45 miles south of Quantico. A few FBI agents regularly used my range for private practice. To a man, they hated the S&W 1006, but it wasn't so much about recoil for most, it was about size and weight. Several of the agents admitted to me that they developed a habit of putting the pistol under their car seat and only taking it out if they were doing an interview that they thought could become dangerous. Not a great idea. The S&W 4006 was available sooner than the video indicates. I have a receipt for my first one (I was on a wait list) that indicates I took mine home in March of 1990. It came with two 25 round boxes of Winchester 180 grain ammo that they gave a coupon for, and you used your receipt as proof of purchase. I immediately fell in love with the gun. I felt at the time it was the answer to a patrol officer's prayer, and if I suddenly found myself back on patrol today, I'd cheerfully carry the 4006. The 3rd Generation Smiths didn't do all that well with patrol agencies in Virginia in the early '90's, but that was only because SIG virtually owned the state in terms of duty sidearms. They would offer prices to agencies that were just above half of retail. But I'll tell you where S&W did really well, and that was corrections agencies that transported prisoners. At the time, nobody was issuing retention holsters to those guys, so the presence of the magazine disconnect as a way to turn off the pistol was a big deal. I still kind of like the idea. The 4006 wasn't actually discontinued until 2011, but by then sales were very slow. Even today it remains my favorite S&W metal framed pistol. I also love the M&P's in .40 caliber. I also owned the P229 and the HK USP Compact, both bought used. The SIG was truly excellent with a .357 SIG barrel in it. Both pistols were great, but the SIG had a better trigger. I carried a Glock 23 concealed daily for years with 155 grain Ranger T until I felt that 9mm loads had been improved to the point where I could trust them. That happened for me around 2007 when I finally participated in a Federal/Speer LE wound ballistics workshop. Even though in retirement I carry a 9mm, I still believe the .40 S&W and the .357 SIG to be slightly superior and still shoot pistols in those calibers today.
I became a Police Officer in '86, and was issued a six shot revolver, a Model 65 with .38spl +Ps. Great guns, but even in the relatively "quiet" Colorado-Kansas area where I was, the bad guys had us outgunned. In the 80s- early 90s you have to remember, 9mm was not as developed ballistically as it is now. We considered it to be a wimpy, European round that has no advantage over .38+P or .357 other than capacity- in fact less stopping power in some circumstances. .40 S&W seemed like a miracle. Good bullet designs, more power than .38, more capacity than a .357. Of course as time goes on, the 9mm came into its own, and by the time I retired in 2006- the .40 had its day. 9mm by then offered less recoil and more capacity with more or less as much stopping power as .40. I carried a 4006 from 91-2000 and really liked it, for whatever reason its heft appealed to me. In 2000 he had a new incoming Chief that mandated "uniformity"- patrol guys all had to switch to G17s, plain clothes G19. You could carry whatever you wanted as a backup.
Unfortunately, back in those days, the 9mm was not understood. False information was out there about its performance. It was always far superior to the 38 +P and its velocities approached lower end 357 loads. The reputation of the 9mm early on was based off of FMJ rounds that would over penetrate. But it was always better than the 38 Special. The 38 was always very poor. Higher bullet weight with little velocity. The 357 Mag was higher velocity but difficult for many to control due to recoil and extreme muzzle flash due to unborn propellant. The .40 bridged the gap between 9mm and 45Auto. At this point, revolvers were finally considered obsolete. The only changes in 9mm are the natural progression of better JHP designs. The pendulum has swung back to the 9mm I feel due to finally more understanding of ballistics instead of all the old wives tales and uneducated assumptions. Then again in this industry, there is a vast amounts of opinions based on unsubstantiated false information.
@@SmallArmsSolutions Yes sir, we wised up, I carried the .38+P LSWCHP, the so called "FBI" load. IMHO, that was the best .38 at the time and still nothing to sneeze at now. I remember it being a man stopper- but still had issues with barrier penetration such as car doors etc. I really don't remember 9mm having many choices in the early 90s though. I do remember Gold Dots and Ranger(?) loads about 1995-96 but then again I really never paid attention to 9mm until I had to switch to one in 2000.
WOW, you really drank the Koolaid! Don't you think the same ammo improvements also were done on the .40 making an already better cartridge even better?
Buffalo Bore, Underwood and Corbon all sell hot 40 S&W ammunition that I trust far more for self defense than any 9mm. The muzzle energy numbers are not even close. Ask any veteran game warden which caliber works better for putting down an injured animal.
The 4006 will feed empty brass (hand cycled) from the mag into the chamber. That says volumes about the S&W 3rd gen feed reliability. That used to be a hallmark test for custom 1911’s back in the day. No other pistol I have tried can do that including Glock, Sig, HK, etc. I love those other pistols but the S&W can actually feed empty cases. Amazing!
To prove a point I just did exactly what you were talking about with a Glock 17, and 27, a m&p 45 full size, and an xd-s mod 2 in both 9mm and 40 sw. Every firearm I listed chambered and ejected 2 full magazines apeice of spend brass that hadn't even been resized yet.
@@TheRealSwampOperator Calling bullshit. I know better. Glock 19, 23, HK USP 45/40, Sig 220, 226, 229 (45/9/40) Will not chamber empty cases from the mag. Anyone listening should try.
I'm 63 years old and when the transition to semiautomatic pistols I picked up a trade in S&W 4046 double action only it worked great I could hit whatever I wanted to with it the weight of the pistol tamed the recoil to feel no different than a 9mm my father died and needed to sell it to help pay for his burial I wish I had it back it was all stainless steel with no decocker to deal with.
An iconic 90’s full framed stainless weapon.Ever notice how many SW40’s ended in the movies and on tv shows. I know it’s about surplus more than anything, but you can’t deny it has that 1911 compact look of an American handgun.
Funny thing about Flock getting their pistol out before Smith. In the 1950s, Smith and Remington were working on the 44 magnum, Kruger got a hold of some scrap brass and found out was going on, and got one of their revolvers put before Smith.
Something I will never understand, people will load the hottest, heaviest 9mm they can find into a S&W shield or Glock 26/43 or other similar sized pistols....but they’ll whine about .40 s&w out of a full sized pistol like a Glock 22 and say it’s too snappy a recoil.
Jon Smith I remember when you couldn't GIVE anything 9mm away. In the 1990s EVERY SWINGIN' DICK traded his ANY CALIBER pistol or revolver in for a .40 S&W, and come hunting season they ALL had to have 7mm Magnum too. I found out what the gun stores were taking in trade toward a 7mm or a .40 and ask coworkers to please let me go into the gun store first. If I nodded after the gun store said "final off on trade" I'd give them $50-$100 more for their trade ins in the parking lot. I got Hi Power Mk i, ii, iii, Glock 17s & 19s, Browning BAR Safaris in 30-06, Rem 700s 30-06, Win Model 70s in 300 Win Mag. The rifles were an absolute steal! Pre 64 Remington 700s in 300 Win Mag or .30-06, or .308 for $250-$400. Browning P35 Mkiiis for $350.
Hello! As always your spot on about this weapon as well as others! Brings back memories S&W 39,59,469,669,1006,645,4506! Your videos are top notch we can count on your true accuracy of all that is said,thank you! Long live Smith & Wesson🇺🇸
I was able to purchase one of the CHP TSW4006 that was 95% on the outside and 100% inside and has one of the SWEETEST Triggers I have ever tried better than my Sig P226 Legion in both SA/DA. I understand that the SW Performance Shop did all the work on the CHP TSW4006 and that is why they are such AWESOME Pistols! The only thinking that the CHP pistols did not come with was Night sights it just had Novak 3 dot but the Rail milled out of the frame does allow for adding a weaponlight. I do agree with you that the 4006 is a JOY to shoot since it has the weight to absorb the recoil and keep the muzzle down no matter what load is put into the 11 round magazine. I consider myself very lucky that I was able to get the CHP sample I now own and that along with my SW645 are the Jewels of my Weapon Collection beyond the custom 1911s and Legion Sigs and other pistols that I have because Smith and Wesson build those Pistols in a Different Time when Craftsmanship Mannered things were done by hand not by CNC Machines!
I have had a couple of 5906`s and a 3906, and like you I looked for a nice 4006 for several years. One day I walked into my favorite shop and there it was, a perfect one with the adjustable sights, which I wanted also. I have had it for ten years now and have shot it very little, but that is about to change. I bought about a thousand 155 grain cast bullets and have a 4# container of HS-6. I know these things are tanks, but with care, will last several lifetimes. I will keep this one until hopefully I can pass it on to another member of my family. I hope to take a deer with it this year.
Good reviews. I love my 4006, I carry it to this day. As a matter of fact, I'm having a custom made holster from Tucker Gun Leather. I'm an old school dude. I also carry a Ruger P90. Major tank workhorses.
I know this video is a few years old, but I picked up a mint condition S&W 4043 a short time ago. While this platform is new to me, firearms are not. I am absolutely in love how this 4043 (same platform as the 4006) handles the 40 S&W cartridge. Had a Glock 23 and it was quite snappy and wasn't fun to shoot. I appreciate the time you took to make this video on the history of the 40 S&W round.
"This all begins with a shootout in Florida where some Asian's....some FBI Asian's." That's what I thought I heard you say, and I kind of laughed my butt off.
California Highways Patrol models had a “CHP” prefix on serial number. They were also designated TSW OR tactical smith and Wesson. Features include:Bobbed hammer and accessory rail machines out of one piece of billet. These were dumped on the civilian market last year and can still be found at a reasonable price.
The California Highway Patrol adopted the S&W 4006 series pistols in 1990 / 1991, these had the normal serial numbers and nothing to indicate it was a CHP firearm...other than the several modifications. The most well known CHP modification is the factory bobbed hammer and the requirement for the magazine disconnect among others. The CHP adopted the 4006TSW series with the transition taking place throughout 2006 / 2007. These pistols have the “CHP” prefix along with their serial number. As of now (01/2019) the department is still in the middle of the transition period to the S&W M&P .40.
I graduated from the California Highway Patrol Academy on May 28, 1981 after 5 months of intensive state law enforcement training. I selected the S&W Model 68 6 inch revolver chambered in 38 special. The cartridge we used was the Remington 38 +P+ 180 grain bullet. The model 68 was manufactured exclusively for the CHP. In 1991, the dept changed over to the S&W Model 4006 4 inch barrel chambered in .40 S&W. During the 3-day introduction sesion I loaded 3000 rounds in 11 round capacity magazines and fired all 3000 rounds, graduating top of my class. I carried my 4006 until I retired on December 21, 2002. I never had a jam or misfire the entire time I carried it. In department tests between the 4006, the Glock 29, the Sig and the Ruger, the 4006 was superior in all categories.
The S&W M&P is turning up on more and more duty belts as far as I see in my travels. When the 4006s hit the market, I could buy a 5904 or 5906 for $200.
Really enjoyed this. I've owned the 4003 aluminum frame for about 20 years now. It's a keeper. One of the most consistent, accurate pistols I've fired. I got it used from a cop, so I don't know if he did anything to accurize it.
I've owned a 4006 for decades, still my favorite go to truck gun. Like AMERICAN Express, I never leave home with out it. My 229 on the other hand is a safe queen.
I have three of them, they are great pistols 2 ME. They are heavy, but the weight is a plus when shooting. I do not understand why they are so unpopular. But, that makes them cheaper to buy, so it works for me. GOOD VIDEO!!! Very Good, Thanks, BB
To me the S&W 4006 is still to this day the sweetest shooting .40 cal I wouldn't trade mine for any other .40 but I haven't shot a CZ in .40 so maybe it's a sweet shooter too.
Nice video. By the time I got into handguns SIG and Glock were the hot items in town. I have bought the semi auto S&W's when I though they were good deals......same as the semi auto Ruger CF pistols. I have a 4586, 4013 TSW and soon to pick up what looks to be a almost new in the box 4006....the box had a $750 price tag on it. ....the new price I would think.....I paid a lot less than that My favorite CF S&W pistols are the 39-2's....I have two of them. The 59's are cool too. Had some that I wish I still had.
Great video and didn’t know you were a fellow Rochester native. I loved the 3rd gen smiths, the 4006 was one of the first pistols I shot. And for what it’s worth, now both Rochester and Monroe county carry G21s....for now.
The Miami Dade shooters actually had six inch Colt Pythons. The 1 Mini-14 was the only semi automatic weapon they had but it was more than enough firepower to overwhelm the FBI team.
I bought one in 1995. Mine had a black trigger and hammer with adjustable sights. Very reliable, only malfuctions I ever had were with reloaded ammo and that was on me. Only thing I disliked was the triggerpullweight, to heavy for my taste. Sold it in 2016, mainly because of that but also because it got harder to find good bullets for reloading. Each time I found bullets I liked they went out of stock after a while.
I found a 4006 and a 3913 at a gunshop for 750 cash. By the time I got to them, they were an hour away, they had sold the 3913 and I bought the 4006 for 350 with only one mag. I then ordered a Sig P225 Classic Carry instead of the 3913. I will find another one of these days...
Watched this again for the 3rd time since I recently bought one, and something I noticed I missed before. I know now why we had an ammo shortage the last couple years, I know where it all went.
I agree about the 229 and usp being designed around the 40 . However I own 5906 and 4006 and they are not the same at all . The slide and frame on 4006 is heavier and thicker . The slide is designed for 40 on the 4006 . It is not just a 5906 with a 40 barrel in it . I never got to see it hold a 4006 until I saw one and bought it last week . Everything about it is beefier than the 5906 .
@@bryanbaker5942I bought a S&W 411 at a Garage sale for 300 as I was walking off. The LADY said stop this goes with the gun. An AMMO can inside 100 rnds FMJ'S. Also 10 boxes of 180 gr black Talons. Oh YEAH
To my knowledge: 10mm Norma specs: 200gr @1200fps, 170gr @ 1300fps. FBI lite spec: 180gr at 950fps (mimicking the speed of their trusted 158 SWCHP Fbi 38 spl load. I was/amo and huge 10mm fan, loved my G20. But it is too much gun for daily carry and as a "duty" gun. For a combat sidearm, it would be perfect. When I switched to 9mm, my accuracy and split times both improved a great deal.
👍Good stuff. Got my 4006 a year or so ago from CDNN $299. Yep, they sold out fast! Novak night sights a plus. Not a fan of the mag disconnect safety tho. Shoots like a dream. Good trigger too. Super nice semi auto 🔫. Thx for the video. (SUBd) ✌️
I just bought a HK vp40 to go along with my m&p40 4.25". as much as I love it I wish I would have saved up a little longer and got the usp40. Now that I've experienced an HK pistol. I gotta have it. Looking fwd to owning a usp40.
Platt and Matix only had .357 Magnum revolvers as sidearms. It was the Mini-14 that ruled the day in 1986. And the FBI adopted the 1076, not the 1006. The ‘76 had a 4.25” barrel as opposed to 5” and a frame-mounted decocker, not the slide-mounted decock/safety combo lever.
As a much larger human, 6’7, with proportionate hands, I suppose my preference is one of few but I truly feel as though they could’ve kept the 10mm had they gone with the Glock model 20. Truly a gun built around 10mm that I absolutely love shooting more than every other handgun that I own (including a CZ Parrot Czechmate). For some reason though my G40 does not feel the same. The recoil is wholly manageable and it has a very linear recoil pattern unlike .40.
Smith and Wesson had the 4006 listed as early as 1991. Sig p229 came out in early 90s, probably as early as 91 or 92 at the latest. P229 is the best 40sw ever made if you get a pre-2005 mfg Sig!
I had one of these approx 20 to 25 years ago.. and mine had a different hammer, more pronounced rounded bill... anyways, being I couldn't shoot the dang thing to be on point to save my life, I long story on why, but as much as I loved the look of the new unit, that was about $880 ... it had two missing parts in it, the wrong spring, and the sights (rear sight) was from the factory kicked way out.. and then to find that part on a brand new unit, were on back order and after several months of waiting, I turned it into a joke unit.. I stripped in down, to a bare chassis, polished everything, nickle chromed bright the lower & upper, and 18 K gold accented the other parts, like the trigger, hammer, sights, pins, etc... and then, handed it off to my friend, because he wanted to do something stupid to it, so, he hand engraved "W.W.J.D." on both sides of the upper slide and re-chromed the upper... after he was done, he handed it off to another one of our friends to add a wee bit of his stupidity to it, so he machined a custom optics mount from the lower and got that plated in what was the rainbow look of gasoline, due to the mount being titanium, and the anodize process and time, you can control the color change, and then he mounts a 10X rifle scope on it... LOL.... We ain't done yet, another friend took it another step further, as tig welded a quick detachable skinny buttstock that slid into a detented dovetail slot, like what would be found on a P-08 type Luger... and dang was it ugly... BUT ... WAIT... there is more... Another one of our friends, tig welded cleverly a bracket of sorts to the front lower receiver to make the unit longer... (mind you, the firing pin was removed, and the barrel was also removed and never in the same location as the unit itself, I believe the hammer was also removed as well), so now, this ugly unit now has the look of the common composite bullpup, and he machined Pic rails into the front addition.. Another friend added a laser and a flash light.. A few other things were done, but, we got board with it, and smelted it down to remove it from the hands of somebody that wouldn't know that it was a joke and would pose a danger to themselves if ever completely assembled and then test fired.. I will tell you, the amount of laughs we had each time we got together to see how stupid we could make it look, I haven't laughed and cried so hard in a long time, the weak in the knees laughter rolling on the ground, as each of us being novice gun smith's privately doing stupid stuff... Think about it, how often do you get to make a stupid firearm, the mission is always about education, quality, precision, reliability, turn time, appearance and lastly, make some money... Watch, the ATF will be knocking at my front door, LOL... asking where is the WMD, LOL.... Again, guts were harvested to repair parts, and the rest was smelted down into aluminum micro toe clamps for a Prazi CNC mini mill ... Sorry for the novel I am not beating up on S&W, as they offer some really nice units, including the 4006 units. but, considering, our joke, was that we were "IMPROVING" the unit at each step, was so dang funny, even though, were actually were not improving it all, resulting in one ugly firearm, that is the joke of it... Sorry S&W, you had that one coming sending out a unit like that... Yes, it was called WMD, I think before the Bush scam coined it as common phrases in MSM..
@@shainshartershwate7421 Yes, actually I am. Don't worry, I have enough "special" to go around, I will give you some of my "special" that you can burrow or rather, HAVE. But, please note, once that batch of "special" is all used up, you will have to find the muster to collect your own "special". Perhaps, someday, you just might realize, that each and every one of us is God's children, and are unique and special none like the others, I kindly say to you, until you can see that for yourself, you will be on a path that is always lost. Do your best to find YOU, and how special you are. I choose to believe you are special. I choose to believe that God has a plan for you, and you just do not realize that your plan is waiting upon your plate, and have yet to look at your plate. Your tasks will likely not be easy, but they will be worth it. That is, if you so choose them to be. Always remember, God loves you, even if you forget to say "hello" to him often. I can tell you, that plate will be heavy, until you accept picking it up. It could be the weight of the world, or it could be the weight of a grain of sand, but that is purely up to you. Go forth my special friend, the world awaits.
@@treerat7631 I have a Glock 23 gen 2. It's a compact model (not subcompact). It's not that snappy at all. I've owned 9mm, .40, .45 and .357 handguns. Most people exaggerate recoil. .40 is comfortable to shoot.
4006 also had extractors that broke and we replaced at S&W repair. They were shipped back to my Department. It didn't break again. Sold and replaced H&K USP40 GREAT WEAPON.
@@pauljohnson9445 that's a very close #2, for me its the polymer. Both are about the only pistols that were actually designed for the 40. Might change my mind if I was to get more trigger time behind the HK as I've only shot one once.
@@tauneutrino1able Trained alongside SS agents, who carried the Sig P229 in. 357 Sig. He reported that Sig wouldn't warranty the pistol after 10K rounds, but wouldn't ever tell anybody that. Not seeing that coming from Oberndorf. USP40 with over 10K rounds thru it nearly looks new, and has only had springs replaced. Hard to beat. Good luck.
Does anybody know if the Police were trained to load the chamber (before going on duty) by holding the de-cocker back when cycling the slide? Just wondered because of the long area behind the safety without any handle material might be explained by this, especially as the de-cocker returns to fire position automatically on this model to ensure the weapon is ready to fire without disengaging a safety..
Jeff Duncan - doing so would require “riding the slide”. I was taught “with authority, pull back the slide and release.” Then de-cock. In the early days of the TSW they had trouble loading. Riding the slide made this worse. Later found out it was light mag spring tension. Added one coil and problem solved. Point is don’t ride the slide.
Handgun mfgs are giving up on 40 production models, but as long as there is brass and 10mm bullets in 165gr and 180gr, I'll stick with 40, and at some point get a 10mm also!
It is my understanding that the 40 cal. was first developed by the efforts of Col. Jeff Cooper. But the round didn't really catch on and perfected until the FBI incident.
Cooper helped develop the 10mm, which the .40S&W was adapted from (after the FBI downloaded the 10mm to give it less recoil, as discussed in the video). I don't think Cooper had anything to do with the .40S&W directly.
Your probably right. Col Cooper did like the 10mm. Wasn't sure of his involvement with the intro to the 40 cal., thought I read some where that he did. Thinking about it now, I'm inclined he was just involved with the 10mm idea. Thanks.
The agents didn’t have a plan, and their luck just went sideways that day. A properly used 9mm, and tactics would have given a much different result. I do shoot and carry a Sig P229 in .40 S&W, so I’m not bashing that round at all.
Nice to see an expository on .40 without dissing it. Just good history. Thanks.
Those Brinks 4046 double action pistols have hit the used market in 2022 and they are a fine weapon for $300.
Went through the police academy with this pistol and qualified as LE expert with a score of 98. Very accurate. Mine has never had a malfunction
A couple of little points from actual experience with the pistol. I was a police officer in Virginia in the late 80's and through the 90's working part-time for small town departments in the south of the state that required me to supply my own sidearm. I also had my own range about 45 miles south of Quantico. A few FBI agents regularly used my range for private practice. To a man, they hated the S&W 1006, but it wasn't so much about recoil for most, it was about size and weight. Several of the agents admitted to me that they developed a habit of putting the pistol under their car seat and only taking it out if they were doing an interview that they thought could become dangerous. Not a great idea.
The S&W 4006 was available sooner than the video indicates. I have a receipt for my first one (I was on a wait list) that indicates I took mine home in March of 1990. It came with two 25 round boxes of Winchester 180 grain ammo that they gave a coupon for, and you used your receipt as proof of purchase. I immediately fell in love with the gun. I felt at the time it was the answer to a patrol officer's prayer, and if I suddenly found myself back on patrol today, I'd cheerfully carry the 4006.
The 3rd Generation Smiths didn't do all that well with patrol agencies in Virginia in the early '90's, but that was only because SIG virtually owned the state in terms of duty sidearms. They would offer prices to agencies that were just above half of retail. But I'll tell you where S&W did really well, and that was corrections agencies that transported prisoners. At the time, nobody was issuing retention holsters to those guys, so the presence of the magazine disconnect as a way to turn off the pistol was a big deal. I still kind of like the idea.
The 4006 wasn't actually discontinued until 2011, but by then sales were very slow. Even today it remains my favorite S&W metal framed pistol. I also love the M&P's in .40 caliber. I also owned the P229 and the HK USP Compact, both bought used. The SIG was truly excellent with a .357 SIG barrel in it. Both pistols were great, but the SIG had a better trigger. I carried a Glock 23 concealed daily for years with 155 grain Ranger T until I felt that 9mm loads had been improved to the point where I could trust them. That happened for me around 2007 when I finally participated in a Federal/Speer LE wound ballistics workshop. Even though in retirement I carry a 9mm, I still believe the .40 S&W and the .357 SIG to be slightly superior and still shoot pistols in those calibers today.
I became a Police Officer in '86, and was issued a six shot revolver, a Model 65 with .38spl +Ps. Great guns, but even in the relatively "quiet" Colorado-Kansas area where I was, the bad guys had us outgunned. In the 80s- early 90s you have to remember, 9mm was not as developed ballistically as it is now. We considered it to be a wimpy, European round that has no advantage over .38+P or .357 other than capacity- in fact less stopping power in some circumstances. .40 S&W seemed like a miracle. Good bullet designs, more power than .38, more capacity than a .357. Of course as time goes on, the 9mm came into its own, and by the time I retired in 2006- the .40 had its day. 9mm by then offered less recoil and more capacity with more or less as much stopping power as .40. I carried a 4006 from 91-2000 and really liked it, for whatever reason its heft appealed to me. In 2000 he had a new incoming Chief that mandated "uniformity"- patrol guys all had to switch to G17s, plain clothes G19. You could carry whatever you wanted as a backup.
Unfortunately, back in those days, the 9mm was not understood. False information was out there about its performance. It was always far superior to the 38 +P and its velocities approached lower end 357 loads. The reputation of the 9mm early on was based off of FMJ rounds that would over penetrate. But it was always better than the 38 Special. The 38 was always very poor. Higher bullet weight with little velocity. The 357 Mag was higher velocity but difficult for many to control due to recoil and extreme muzzle flash due to unborn propellant. The .40 bridged the gap between 9mm and 45Auto. At this point, revolvers were finally considered obsolete. The only changes in 9mm are the natural progression of better JHP designs. The pendulum has swung back to the 9mm I feel due to finally more understanding of ballistics instead of all the old wives tales and uneducated assumptions. Then again in this industry, there is a vast amounts of opinions based on unsubstantiated false information.
@@SmallArmsSolutions Yes sir, we wised up, I carried the .38+P LSWCHP, the so called "FBI" load. IMHO, that was the best .38 at the time and still nothing to sneeze at now. I remember it being a man stopper- but still had issues with barrier penetration such as car doors etc. I really don't remember 9mm having many choices in the early 90s though. I do remember Gold Dots and Ranger(?) loads about 1995-96 but then again I really never paid attention to 9mm until I had to switch to one in 2000.
Absolutely NO 9mm has as much energy as a .40 😂
124gr 9mm +P has less energy at the MUZZLE than a 155gr .40 S&W has at 50 YARDS!!!!
WOW, you really drank the Koolaid! Don't you think the same ammo improvements also were done on the .40 making an already better cartridge even better?
Buffalo Bore, Underwood and Corbon all sell hot 40 S&W ammunition that I trust far more for self defense than any 9mm. The muzzle energy numbers are not even close. Ask any veteran game warden which caliber works better for putting down an injured animal.
The 4006 will feed empty brass (hand cycled) from the mag into the chamber. That says volumes about the S&W 3rd gen feed reliability. That used to be a hallmark test for custom 1911’s back in the day. No other pistol I have tried can do that including Glock, Sig, HK, etc. I love those other pistols but the S&W can actually feed empty cases. Amazing!
I bought one in early 91 for duty. I ran close to 10000rds thru it with 0
4006 is the best shooting .40 ever made imo.
To prove a point I just did exactly what you were talking about with a Glock 17, and 27, a m&p 45 full size, and an xd-s mod 2 in both 9mm and 40 sw.
Every firearm I listed chambered and ejected 2 full magazines apeice of spend brass that hadn't even been resized yet.
@@TheRealSwampOperator Calling bullshit. I know better. Glock 19, 23, HK USP 45/40, Sig 220, 226, 229 (45/9/40) Will not chamber empty cases from the mag. Anyone listening should try.
I'm 63 years old and when the transition to semiautomatic pistols I picked up a trade in S&W 4046 double action only it worked great I could hit whatever I wanted to with it the weight of the pistol tamed the recoil to feel no different than a 9mm my father died and needed to sell it to help pay for his burial I wish I had it back it was all stainless steel with no decocker to deal with.
An iconic 90’s full framed stainless weapon.Ever notice how many SW40’s ended in the movies and on tv shows. I know it’s about surplus more than anything, but you can’t deny it has that 1911 compact look of an American handgun.
Funny thing about Flock getting their pistol out before Smith. In the 1950s, Smith and Remington were working on the 44 magnum, Kruger got a hold of some scrap brass and found out was going on, and got one of their revolvers put before Smith.
Something I will never understand, people will load the hottest, heaviest 9mm they can find into a S&W shield or Glock 26/43 or other similar sized pistols....but they’ll whine about .40 s&w out of a full sized pistol like a Glock 22 and say it’s too snappy a recoil.
40 sucks
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Jon Smith I remember when you couldn't GIVE anything 9mm away. In the 1990s EVERY SWINGIN' DICK traded his ANY CALIBER pistol or revolver in for a .40 S&W, and come hunting season they ALL had to have 7mm Magnum too. I found out what the gun stores were taking in trade toward a 7mm or a .40 and ask coworkers to please let me go into the gun store first. If I nodded after the gun store said "final off on trade" I'd give them $50-$100 more for their trade ins in the parking lot. I got Hi Power Mk i, ii, iii, Glock 17s & 19s, Browning BAR Safaris in 30-06, Rem 700s 30-06, Win Model 70s in 300 Win Mag. The rifles were an absolute steal! Pre 64 Remington 700s in 300 Win Mag or .30-06, or .308 for $250-$400. Browning P35 Mkiiis for $350.
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I just bought one today from a Marine Veteran. I’m stoked
Hello! As always your spot on about this weapon as well as others! Brings back memories S&W 39,59,469,669,1006,645,4506! Your videos are top notch we can count on your true accuracy of all that is said,thank you! Long live Smith & Wesson🇺🇸
I was able to purchase one of the CHP TSW4006 that was 95% on the outside and 100% inside and has one of the SWEETEST Triggers I have ever tried better than my Sig P226 Legion in both SA/DA. I understand that the SW Performance Shop did all the work on the CHP TSW4006 and that is why they are such AWESOME Pistols! The only thinking that the CHP pistols did not come with was Night sights it just had Novak 3 dot but the Rail milled out of the frame does allow for adding a weaponlight. I do agree with you that the 4006 is a JOY to shoot since it has the weight to absorb the recoil and keep the muzzle down no matter what load is put into the 11 round magazine.
I consider myself very lucky that I was able to get the CHP sample I now own and that along with my SW645 are the Jewels of my Weapon Collection beyond the custom 1911s and Legion Sigs and other pistols that I have because Smith and Wesson build those Pistols in a Different Time when Craftsmanship Mannered things were done by hand not by CNC Machines!
The 645 is righteous.
I have had a couple of 5906`s and a 3906, and like you I looked for a nice 4006 for several years. One day I walked into my favorite shop and there it was, a perfect one with the adjustable sights, which I wanted also. I have had it for ten years now and have shot it very little, but that is about to change. I bought about a thousand 155 grain cast bullets and have a 4# container of HS-6. I know these things are tanks, but with care, will last several lifetimes. I will keep this one until hopefully I can pass it on to another member of my family. I hope to take a deer with it this year.
Good reviews. I love my 4006, I carry it to this day. As a matter of fact, I'm having a custom made holster from Tucker Gun Leather. I'm an old school dude. I also carry a Ruger P90. Major tank workhorses.
I want a P90 And a 4506
I know this video is a few years old, but I picked up a mint condition S&W 4043 a short time ago. While this platform is new to me, firearms are not. I am absolutely in love how this 4043 (same platform as the 4006) handles the 40 S&W cartridge. Had a Glock 23 and it was quite snappy and wasn't fun to shoot.
I appreciate the time you took to make this video on the history of the 40 S&W round.
"This all begins with a shootout in Florida where some Asian's....some FBI Asian's." That's what I thought I heard you say, and I kind of laughed my butt off.
John Kesl oh thank god I am not the only one
Saaaaame lmaoo
And the captions say it too
Hahahaha hahahaha
I still can't laughing at this.
4006: I plan on .40 cal world dominance!
USP40: Hold my bratwurst!
P229: Am I a joke to you?
I carried a GLOCK 22 in the late ‘90’s at NOPD. I carried another GLOCK 22 at my current department from ‘10 to ‘17.
I am researching S&W 3rd Gens, and you are on my short list of go-to reviews. Love your work. Thanx!
Took mine to the firing range and that 4006 is very powerful wow me and my grand son went and he wants to go back to the firing range
"I got the Calico, with the Black Talons loaded in the clip..."~Notorious B.I.G.
@Nunya Business It won't help _You_ either.
@Nunya Business Sure you don't.
California Highways Patrol models had a “CHP” prefix on serial number. They were also designated TSW OR tactical smith and Wesson. Features include:Bobbed hammer and accessory rail machines out of one piece of billet. These were dumped on the civilian market last year and can still be found at a reasonable price.
And in typical California fashion, us CA peasants aren't allowed to have them!
The California Highway Patrol adopted the S&W 4006 series pistols in 1990 / 1991, these had the normal serial numbers and nothing to indicate it was a CHP firearm...other than the several modifications. The most well known CHP modification is the factory bobbed hammer and the requirement for the magazine disconnect among others.
The CHP adopted the 4006TSW series with the transition taking place throughout 2006 / 2007. These pistols have the “CHP” prefix along with their serial number. As of now (01/2019) the department is still in the middle of the transition period to the S&W M&P .40.
I graduated from the California Highway Patrol Academy on May 28, 1981 after 5 months of intensive state law enforcement training. I selected the S&W Model 68 6 inch revolver chambered in 38 special. The cartridge we used was the Remington 38 +P+ 180 grain bullet. The model 68 was manufactured exclusively for the CHP. In 1991, the dept changed over to the S&W Model 4006 4 inch barrel chambered in .40 S&W. During the 3-day introduction sesion I loaded 3000 rounds in 11 round capacity magazines and fired all 3000 rounds, graduating top of my class. I carried my 4006 until I retired on December 21, 2002. I never had a jam or misfire the entire time I carried it.
In department tests between the 4006, the Glock 29, the Sig and the Ruger, the 4006 was superior in all categories.
The S&W M&P is turning up on more and more duty belts as far as I see in my travels. When the 4006s hit the market, I could buy a 5904 or 5906 for $200.
Really enjoyed this. I've owned the 4003 aluminum frame for about 20 years now. It's a keeper. One of the most consistent, accurate pistols I've fired. I got it used from a cop, so I don't know if he did anything to accurize it.
Love my .40 cals, my bro had a Beretta 92 in .40 great gun, my EDC for 2yrs been a .40
Beretta 96.
I've owned a 4006 for decades, still my favorite go to truck gun.
Like AMERICAN Express, I never leave home with out it.
My 229 on the other hand is a safe queen.
S V it’s heavy and mag safety sucks... only down sides
Wish i wouldve picked up on the the CHP versions when they were dumped on the market a few years ago.
This guy's the Rain Man of the .40 caliber!
I have three of them, they are great pistols 2 ME. They are heavy, but the weight is a plus when shooting. I do not understand why they are so unpopular. But, that makes them cheaper to buy, so it works for me. GOOD VIDEO!!! Very Good, Thanks, BB
To me the S&W 4006 is still to this day the sweetest shooting
.40 cal I wouldn't trade mine for any other .40 but I haven't shot a CZ in .40 so maybe it's a sweet shooter too.
That's because it's heavy as hell. Otherwise 40 sucks
@@dougsmith2658 Doug has a limp wrist.
Nice video. By the time I got into handguns SIG and Glock were the hot items in town. I have bought the semi auto S&W's when I though they were good deals......same as the semi auto Ruger CF pistols. I have a 4586, 4013 TSW and soon to pick up what looks to be a almost new in the box 4006....the box had a $750 price tag on it. ....the new price I would think.....I paid a lot less than that My favorite CF S&W pistols are the 39-2's....I have two of them. The 59's are cool too. Had some that I wish I still had.
Great video and didn’t know you were a fellow Rochester native. I loved the 3rd gen smiths, the 4006 was one of the first pistols I shot. And for what it’s worth, now both Rochester and Monroe county carry G21s....for now.
I love mine, and will keep it until I die and hand it down to my son. Solid and effective firearm!
The Miami Dade shooters actually had six inch Colt Pythons. The 1 Mini-14 was the only semi automatic weapon they had but it was more than enough firepower to overwhelm the FBI team.
I bought one in 1995. Mine had a black trigger and hammer with adjustable sights. Very reliable, only malfuctions I ever had were with reloaded ammo and that was on me. Only thing I disliked was the triggerpullweight, to heavy for my taste. Sold it in 2016, mainly because of that but also because it got harder to find good bullets for reloading. Each time I found bullets I liked they went out of stock after a while.
I enjoy your videos very much. You have great back ground knowledge and know what your talking about.
I’m still a fan of the 40 cal.
Not a thing wrong with the .40!
SmallArmsSolutions right and it’s not a dying caliber. A lot of people still love .40
I found a 4006 and a 3913 at a gunshop for 750 cash. By the time I got to them, they were an hour away, they had sold the 3913 and I bought the 4006 for 350 with only one mag. I then ordered a Sig P225 Classic Carry instead of the 3913. I will find another one of these days...
I never understood why the S&W automatics were not quite favored. I know some people love them, but it's not talked about all that much.
I had a 1006 i loved to death. I do love steel pistols.
I'll take a 3rd gen S&W or the Sig 229 over the polymer guns any day. Yes they are heavier but the weight helps with recoil.
Mag safety is not liked
@GunsOfThePhoenix I have one of the CHP 4006TSW's. I wouldn't trade it for the world.
MCG55555 I HATE the European style safety! That’s why I never had one.
Watched this again for the 3rd time since I recently bought one, and something I noticed I missed before. I know now why we had an ammo shortage the last couple years, I know where it all went.
Absolutely LOVE my S%W 411!
I agree about the 229 and usp being designed around the 40 . However I own 5906 and 4006 and they are not the same at all . The slide and frame on 4006 is heavier and thicker . The slide is designed for 40 on the 4006 . It is not just a 5906 with a 40 barrel in it . I never got to see it hold a 4006 until I saw one and bought it last week . Everything about it is beefier than the 5906 .
Correct.
Bring back the Black Talons, Winchester!! Sales would go through the roof!
People who want them buy ranger t from sgammo
No. We want the Black Talons. Sharp edges, the name, all of it.
@@bryanbaker5942I bought a S&W 411 at a Garage sale for 300 as I was walking off. The LADY said stop this goes with the gun. An AMMO can inside 100 rnds FMJ'S. Also 10 boxes of 180 gr black Talons. Oh YEAH
Really enjoyed the history portion of the video!
Excellent information, but my eyes were focused on the ammo stash behind on the shelves.
First pistol I ever bought from a gun store was an S&W 4013. Miss that little guy. I regret ever getting rid of it.
Bruce Jenner you can buy one for $450
Great pistols, love the 3rd gens. 🇺🇸
i had a 4506 ,very well made gun ,high quality, accurate ,reliable, good looking, and heavy as a dead minister. sold it and never looked back.
I`ve had a couple of 5906`s and a 3906, but the 4006 that I have now is also my favorite and I will keep it.
To my knowledge: 10mm Norma specs: 200gr @1200fps, 170gr @ 1300fps. FBI lite spec: 180gr at 950fps (mimicking the speed of their trusted 158 SWCHP Fbi 38 spl load.
I was/amo and huge 10mm fan, loved my G20. But it is too much gun for daily carry and as a "duty" gun. For a combat sidearm, it would be perfect.
When I switched to 9mm, my accuracy and split times both improved a great deal.
I still carry a S&W Performance Center Shorty 40 MK3.
I was about to purchase a 6946 but had to get a 4006 due to this video. 100$ cheaper and has a brinks logo lol.
brinks?
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Love the old S&W pistols. I regret selling my 6906 police trade-in.
Great review and history of the cartridge. Would you review history of Beretta 96?
I didn't know that the SIG P229 was originally designed for the 40 SW. Interesting.
Still have mine and a half a box of Silvertips!
👍Good stuff. Got my 4006 a year or so ago from CDNN $299. Yep, they sold out fast! Novak night sights a plus. Not a fan of the mag disconnect safety tho.
Shoots like a dream. Good trigger too.
Super nice semi auto 🔫.
Thx for the video. (SUBd) ✌️
Dang, I missed out on that deal.
I’ve been trying to find one of these people complain about how heavy it is but I bet you can hit the target a lot easier
I just bought a HK vp40 to go along with my m&p40 4.25". as much as I love it I wish I would have saved up a little longer and got the usp40. Now that I've experienced an HK pistol. I gotta have it. Looking fwd to owning a usp40.
Got 3, with one being SS. First gun, and handles it nicely, but nothing's easier to shoot well than a VP series.
Very informative.Thank you!
This Man always offers a lot of history on all the weapons he reviews.
Excellent info and enjoyable video for sure!
WB-USMC-0311 Ret
I have a 6906 I would love one of the 4006 from the chp
Sig.40 fine shooter.
really enjoyed the history , thanks
Just found this video, great info. Thanks!
Those Gen 3 S&W 9, 40, 45 were used by almost Everyone in LE in the 90s. It would easier to count the agencies that didn’t use them !
Its a beautiful firearm. Sime how reminds me of the Ruger P345.
I carried one during my time as a California Park Ranger
Platt and Matix only had .357 Magnum revolvers as sidearms. It was the Mini-14 that ruled the day in 1986. And the FBI adopted the 1076, not the 1006. The ‘76 had a 4.25” barrel as opposed to 5” and a frame-mounted decocker, not the slide-mounted decock/safety combo lever.
This was the model available to me
As a much larger human, 6’7, with proportionate hands, I suppose my preference is one of few but I truly feel as though they could’ve kept the 10mm had they gone with the Glock model 20. Truly a gun built around 10mm that I absolutely love shooting more than every other handgun that I own (including a CZ Parrot Czechmate). For some reason though my G40 does not feel the same. The recoil is wholly manageable and it has a very linear recoil pattern unlike .40.
Love my px4 storm
Smith and Wesson had the 4006 listed as early as 1991. Sig p229 came out in early 90s, probably as early as 91 or 92 at the latest. P229 is the best 40sw ever made if you get a pre-2005 mfg Sig!
I saw this is the bad boys movie.. the first one . Always wondered what gun it was
I love my 4006 40 cal it caught my eye and had to jump on it I had to have it that's my baby
Wasn't the M&P 40 designed around the .40 cal S&W cartridge as well?
Albit Capinigro it was.
Yes most new pistols have a 40cal offerings
I had one of these approx 20 to 25 years ago.. and mine had a different hammer, more pronounced rounded bill... anyways, being I couldn't shoot the dang thing to be on point to save my life, I long story on why, but as much as I loved the look of the new unit, that was about $880 ... it had two missing parts in it, the wrong spring, and the sights (rear sight) was from the factory kicked way out.. and then to find that part on a brand new unit, were on back order and after several months of waiting, I turned it into a joke unit.. I stripped in down, to a bare chassis, polished everything, nickle chromed bright the lower & upper, and 18 K gold accented the other parts, like the trigger, hammer, sights, pins, etc... and then, handed it off to my friend, because he wanted to do something stupid to it, so, he hand engraved "W.W.J.D." on both sides of the upper slide and re-chromed the upper... after he was done, he handed it off to another one of our friends to add a wee bit of his stupidity to it, so he machined a custom optics mount from the lower and got that plated in what was the rainbow look of gasoline, due to the mount being titanium, and the anodize process and time, you can control the color change, and then he mounts a 10X rifle scope on it... LOL.... We ain't done yet, another friend took it another step further, as tig welded a quick detachable skinny buttstock that slid into a detented dovetail slot, like what would be found on a P-08 type Luger... and dang was it ugly... BUT ... WAIT... there is more... Another one of our friends, tig welded cleverly a bracket of sorts to the front lower receiver to make the unit longer... (mind you, the firing pin was removed, and the barrel was also removed and never in the same location as the unit itself, I believe the hammer was also removed as well), so now, this ugly unit now has the look of the common composite bullpup, and he machined Pic rails into the front addition.. Another friend added a laser and a flash light.. A few other things were done, but, we got board with it, and smelted it down to remove it from the hands of somebody that wouldn't know that it was a joke and would pose a danger to themselves if ever completely assembled and then test fired.. I will tell you, the amount of laughs we had each time we got together to see how stupid we could make it look, I haven't laughed and cried so hard in a long time, the weak in the knees laughter rolling on the ground, as each of us being novice gun smith's privately doing stupid stuff... Think about it, how often do you get to make a stupid firearm, the mission is always about education, quality, precision, reliability, turn time, appearance and lastly, make some money... Watch, the ATF will be knocking at my front door, LOL... asking where is the WMD, LOL.... Again, guts were harvested to repair parts, and the rest was smelted down into aluminum micro toe clamps for a Prazi CNC mini mill ... Sorry for the novel
I am not beating up on S&W, as they offer some really nice units, including the 4006 units. but, considering, our joke, was that we were "IMPROVING" the unit at each step, was so dang funny, even though, were actually were not improving it all, resulting in one ugly firearm, that is the joke of it... Sorry S&W, you had that one coming sending out a unit like that... Yes, it was called WMD, I think before the Bush scam coined it as common phrases in MSM..
Well Aren't you special
@@shainshartershwate7421 Yes, actually I am. Don't worry, I have enough "special" to go around, I will give you some of my "special" that you can burrow or rather, HAVE. But, please note, once that batch of "special" is all used up, you will have to find the muster to collect your own "special". Perhaps, someday, you just might realize, that each and every one of us is God's children, and are unique and special none like the others, I kindly say to you, until you can see that for yourself, you will be on a path that is always lost. Do your best to find YOU, and how special you are. I choose to believe you are special. I choose to believe that God has a plan for you, and you just do not realize that your plan is waiting upon your plate, and have yet to look at your plate. Your tasks will likely not be easy, but they will be worth it. That is, if you so choose them to be. Always remember, God loves you, even if you forget to say "hello" to him often.
I can tell you, that plate will be heavy, until you accept picking it up. It could be the weight of the world, or it could be the weight of a grain of sand, but that is purely up to you. Go forth my special friend, the world awaits.
Actually the 4044 was one of the first s&w models in .40s&w I own one... Made in 1991 its a blued DAO version of this gun.
Dude 40 s&w does not have alot of recoil! I can barely tell the difference from 9mm
Yes it does in a samll frame
@@treerat7631 I have a Glock 23 gen 2. It's a compact model (not subcompact). It's not that snappy at all. I've owned 9mm, .40, .45 and .357 handguns. Most people exaggerate recoil. .40 is comfortable to shoot.
dnaka2001 it’s fine. The same advances in 9mm bullet technology also pertains to .40 making it better as well
I agree Im very accurate with my g23
It varies greatly with ammo selection.
4006 also had extractors that broke and we replaced at S&W repair. They were shipped back to my Department. It didn't break again. Sold and replaced H&K USP40 GREAT WEAPON.
IMO the Sig p229 in .40sw is the best .40cal on the market.
Tau Neutrino you can shoot.357 sig with simple barrel swap. Same magazines
HK USP40: Laughs uncontrollably!
@@pauljohnson9445 that's a very close #2, for me its the polymer. Both are about the only pistols that were actually designed for the 40. Might change my mind if I was to get more trigger time behind the HK as I've only shot one once.
@@tauneutrino1able Trained alongside SS agents, who carried the Sig P229 in. 357 Sig. He reported that Sig wouldn't warranty the pistol after 10K rounds, but wouldn't ever tell anybody that. Not seeing that coming from Oberndorf. USP40 with over 10K rounds thru it nearly looks new, and has only had springs replaced. Hard to beat. Good luck.
@@pauljohnson9445 my p229 has around 7k and no problems. But dont like the sound of that warranty thing 🤔
Hate me, but I love 40.
Does anybody know if the Police were trained to load the chamber (before going on duty) by holding the de-cocker back when cycling the slide? Just wondered because of the long area behind the safety without any handle material might be explained by this, especially as the de-cocker returns to fire position automatically on this model to ensure the weapon is ready to fire without disengaging a safety..
We weren't trained to do that. The only thing we used the decocking lever for was to drop the hammer.
Jeff Duncan - doing so would require “riding the slide”. I was taught “with authority, pull back the slide and release.” Then de-cock. In the early days of the TSW they had trouble loading. Riding the slide made this worse. Later found out it was light mag spring tension. Added one coil and problem solved. Point is don’t ride the slide.
I was wondering what is the difference between the 5906 and the 4006 versions
Master Warning 59 Series is 9mm and the 40 Series is .40 cal
SmallArmsSolutions thanks so very much for the response. Makes perfect sense now..thank you.
Handgun mfgs are giving up on 40 production models, but as long as there is brass and 10mm bullets in 165gr and 180gr, I'll stick with 40, and at some point get a 10mm also!
Casting....
Do you have any info/experience with the 3566
Dam that one 9mm silvertip !
Very nice pistol!
Shout out from Milwaukee i carry one of those evey day great gun kinda heavy but i can one hand shoot lol
Awesome video
love that gun!
seeing all this ammo in 2022... its the weirdest feeling
Who had automatic pistols?
...AUSGEZEICHNET!!!!!!
It is my understanding that the 40 cal. was first developed by the efforts of Col. Jeff Cooper. But the round didn't really catch on and perfected until the FBI incident.
Cooper helped develop the 10mm, which the .40S&W was adapted from (after the FBI downloaded the 10mm to give it less recoil, as discussed in the video). I don't think Cooper had anything to do with the .40S&W directly.
Your probably right. Col Cooper did like the 10mm. Wasn't sure of his involvement with the intro to the 40 cal., thought I read some where that he did. Thinking about it now, I'm inclined he was just involved with the 10mm idea. Thanks.
They had a revolver each a shotgun and one mini 14 and one guy did all of the shooting
The agents didn’t have a plan, and their luck just went sideways that day. A properly used 9mm, and tactics would have given a much different result. I do shoot and carry a Sig P229 in .40 S&W, so I’m not bashing that round at all.
I'll take a steel framed S&W over a glock any day.
Legally armed america has a great breakdown of the 40 history