I truly believe that with a few changes - longer fuel range, reduced engine heat, more comfortable seat, and less glitchy phone integration - this would be a world-beating motorcycle. As is, it's still amazing, and I love it. Agree or disagree? Yes, Ducati flew me to Italy and fed me nice meals for 3 days. Yes, my review is still impartial. Why? This trip took 5 days with travel, involved some un-reimbursable costs, and I'll be lucky to make $400 from this video. You do the math - a trip like this is a business LOSS for me, however, it's my goal to review new models and bring you accurate information. Just being honest! 🏍TODAY’S GEAR: ⚡ REV'IT! OffTrack 2 Suit: imp.i104546.net/3eYVVr ⚡ Schuberth C3 Pro : imp.i104546.net/ZQrND1 ⚡ Alpinestars SMX Boot: imp.i104546.net/2rz6YM ⚡ Mosko Moto Wildcat 8L Backpack: bit.ly/3OiE5Ss ⚡ REV'IT! Cyclone Rain Suit: imp.i104546.net/qn1P9N ⚡ MSR Base Layers: bit.ly/3K3bQ8s 🏍BEHIND THE SCENES / DISCORD SERVER / CHAT WITH ME! ⚡ Patreon: www.patreon.com/bigrockmedia 🏍 SUPPORT BIG ROCK MOTO BY USING MY AFFILIATE LINKS! ⚡ Rocky Mountain ATV/MC: bit.ly/33kgRIz ⚡ Revzilla: imp.i104546.net/6bxxXN ⚡ Mosko Moto: moskomoto.com/bigrockmoto ⚡ Amazon: amzn.to/3viGZ0A ⚡ Merchandise: big-rock-moto.myspreadshop.com/
@@BigRockMoto Seriously Ian, it shows not only good ethics, but the maturity to not get caught up in the experience to be objective. That's something most people would struggle with.
Congrats Ian i never expected to see you in Italy but that really shows your dedication to the channel i hope your audience sees that too. Keep the honest reviews and your channel will grow for shure. Cheers from Portugal
Great review! I’ll take performance over fuel range any day:) I toured with other models before testing a Multi and couldn’t go back after the test ride. It’s hands down the best bike I’ve owned. The V4 engine, suspension and overall handling of this bike is amazing! I don’t think there’s enough significant changes on this model to necessarily justify it, I’d still choose the standard V4s. Thanks for pointing out the negatives, which all bikes have, a great balanced review.
Honesty is in short supply these days. Except your channel. Tell it like it is brother. I appreciate your knowledge and strait shooter approach. Thanks very much
@@BigRockMoto I was hoping for a pickup test though. 😉 You might have gotten some funny looks, or since it’s an Italian company in Italy, thrown out on your ear to France.
Congratulations on being selected to participate in the launch. That is a big deal and well deserved. Credit to you for not fawning all over a V4S with some panniers and fog lights added. I guess the next model will have a louder horn and a chain oiler.
Hi Ian, great review as always! I'm happy to see that manufacturers (or at least Ducati) is starting to recognize your expertise and skills! I'm also happy that you really enjoyed your stay in Italy but remember: Italy is a very diverse country, even in a couple of hundreds kms difference the landscape, architectures and roads can vary a lot!
Great review as always Ian and nice to see you on European roads where the Multi is at its best. Best motorcycle available, fantastic features and build quality and I’m a proud owner.
Never have to justify why you do what you do and how you earn your keep.We watch your channel because you are a cut obove some of your fellow journalists and I suspect your following is growing by the day.Thanking you.
Significant that Ducati flew you out to review this. Really happy for you and your channel's continued growth, Ian. Agreed 100% with your concerns re tank and engine choice. I don't understand the rationale for the 19" front, though, as it seems to contradict both common motorcycle knowledge as well as physics -- the 19" is better for lower skilled riders but not for higher skilled?
I love what you're doing with the intros! You should carry that energy into the rest of the video :D Your formula is great, but it's nice to see you flexing the creativity a bit.
Congratulations Ian for your invitation to the launch. That's big for the channel. Now, the good news about a Gran Tour version is that it means an update in November 2024.
Congratulations Ian for your invitation to the launch. That's big for the channel. Now, the good news about a Gran Tour version is that it means an update in November 2024...
Hello IAN. I have no complaints about your review, but I am sorry that others are focusing only on the shortcomings of the V4S. Fuel economy can be increased if the engine is revved down, which is the general standard for a 1200cc engine. That is a sport bike. The engine is also not hot except for the frame. This is also not a problematic level for a large displacement engine. However, I cannot defend the navigation system alone. It is the worst. You are right, overall it is a great bike. I hope it gets a fair evaluation.
Great video Ian and great review…I’m Italian and I’m proud of Ducati products! Thanks a lot for your beautiful words about Italy. Next time you come please come to Tuscany…you’ll be overwhelmed by twisty roads…and gravel roads (like the Eroica) Cheers, Gabriele
I’ve risen the new Multistrada V4s multiple time and have fallen in love with the bike, the only draw back for me is the poor fuel mileage. A friend of mine and I do touring through Baja on which he rides his Multistrada and best we’ve been able to stretch his tank is 198 miles. The bike needs a 200-250 mile fuel range. Great review.
Another great and honest review, as always. I agree with every point you made, but one. I think (with admitted invested Bias) that the Rally is the best model to get; despite the extra cost. It fixes all of the issues (range, wind, heat (sorta) ect.) that all of the other V4 Multistrada models suffer from. You can always put less fuel in the larger tank for local rides. Thanks Ian. Great review
Great to see reviewers like you coming over 'the pond' to us in Europe and trying the bikes in their own back yard. Good honest review. I'm thinking V4 Rallye with Panniers then? You might not make loads of money making this review but it dragged a yank out of the US for a few days ;-)
I continue to be fascinated with the concerns about how much heavier bikes are when they have larger fuel tanks. Although I cannot confirm with data, my guess is...the actual weight difference between small/large tanks is minimal. The difference comes from the volume of fuel put inside. To date, I've not seen a rule book that says a 30l tanks needs 30l of fuel. In other words, a 30l tank with 20l of fuel will weigh the same as a 20l tank with 20l of fuel.
Agreed. I have a 1250 GSA with a 30ltr tank. During daily use I put 18-20ltrs in it for commuting otherwise you are effectively burning fuel to carry fuel but I have the option to fill it up when I want to on my trips around Europe. Also worth considering that big tanks go hand in hand with big luggage so a touring bike fully loaded is always going to be heavy no matter how big the tank is.
Everyone who thinks 100hp is enough never rode one of these. All bikes need this much power. My Pan America feels so slow compared to my buddies Ducati. Amazing fun.
It depends on your riding prefereces - on tarmac with good grip you are absolutely correct. However on a gravel or without good grip you cannot see a difference because you don't have any way to transfer all that power into moving forward (For example th-cam.com/video/9cTM5Rff-Y8/w-d-xo.html)
I echo some of the other comments on here, your points are fair and make good sense. I’ve been thinking of updating my current V4s multi, but this doesn’t cut the mustard. I would buy a new multi “GT” with a bigger tank, better heat control and the rally paint scheme. This one doesn’t look so sharp. Glad you enjoyed the location. We’re a couple of hours from your location, just over the border in the south of France…..much drier here and many superb roads, and many famous ones, so let us know if yer coming back. I think the current multi is perfect for these roads, but sitting in slow traffic in hot weather does create an uncomfortable heat issue. They need to fix that, preferably for the old bikes too.
Hey, it sounds like this machine is perfect for rides with frequent relief stops - to cool your legs and refuel. Winter rides will be nice with heated seat, grips and built-in leg warmer. Italy looks beautiful!
I agree with other comments; what riders want is an accurate and comprehensive description of a bike’s performance. That said, bias is unavoidable and there’s always subjective and objective impressions. The reviews this site offers are getting better and better - as good a place as any to figure out if the juice one gets from a test ride is worth the squeeze of finding one.
As a former Multistrada V4S owner now a Tuareg I was actually impressed with the gas mileage and gas tank range, I had to take my necessary breaks & never was in a place where I was worried about needing gas, if you're not heavy on the throttle which isn't just as fun 😅, had no issues whatsoever with reliability or parts availability but if getting one of these you know what your want at that point. Problem is they're getting a bit too $$$ now, best to find a lightly used one that someone hasn't ridden.
Ian Fantastic review! As usual you cut right to the bone. I agree, for being the Grand Tour the gas tank is puny. It should have the 30L like my Tiger GT Explorer. Especially when the V4 engine really sucks gas! I drove the regular MultiStrada and the engine heat is awful and the wind protection is not what I'm used to. My Mannequin agrees that I should stick with my Tiger. Ride SAFE and BE safe Sir! 👍👍
Way to go, Ian. Luv the ‘respectful irreverence’ esp re fuel economy, windscreen, tank size, mobile integration. This is a pricey machine, and it has a lot of features that befit the price tag. But also a lot of things that don’t. Thx for unabashedly pointing those out. Btw, omg would luv to ride Italy esp just north of Florence. Enjoy buddy!
Very helpful review as always. The very limited range between fuel stops is a huge problem for me. I live in the U.S. Rocky Mountains and prefer to ride remote highways. Thanks for your numerous insights.
If you liked roads and scenery in Emilia Romagna next time you are in Italy please come a bit more to South... in Abruzzo Region...you'll be very much surprised and stunned...
I have the V4s full, so I already have all these extras. It still has cylinder deactivation, but it is not until idle. I love my bike so much and wouldn't change it or anything on it. Maybe fuel economy but smiles per mile are awesome.
Well Ian, it looks like you have made the big time. Congrats on being invited to Italy and riding such a marvelous bike. Now, while you are there, any chance on visiting Aprilia and testing their V-4 models???
Imagine tryin to ride that bike in the southern USA with the heat and humidity. Your leg is gonna bake. Ugh. Fair review, thanks and I agree on the other critical points you made.
If you close your eyes for a milli second in Italy your off the bike,any way apart from the sarcasm on my part great vlog as usuall i should have bought a V 4 instead of the PAS (pan america special) always breaking down and now the prices have dropped at the dealerships you can not sell the damn thing for a good price.
You brought up the exact issues I did. The fuel economy paired with the small tank makes the Rally much more appealing. Also, you seemed to be OK with the Rally seat vs. the S. Maybe the extra legroom helped? Coming from a '16 1290 SA, I really appreciate minimizing fuel stops, even as a commuter. And the sorry state of roads in CA make me lean toward spoke wheels vs. forged. The new valve adjust intervals are a huge plus!
Well done review Ian, and I agree with your comments 100%. As a owner of new '22 V4S, I've averaged 29.9mpg through my 1st 1k miles, so I anticipated the Grand Tour surely would have the Rally tank on it? Bluntly, its an exercise in accessorizing, although at a better value. So why not an accessory gas can for the rear seat? 🤔 I'd buy one in Ducati Red please. Fortunately, it is an astonishly incredible machine with unmatched fit and finish. I think of mine as 3 bikes for the price of 2 - I can take a long tour, to do some track laps, and then go hit the trails. You'd have to stop for gas prior to each, but its name says it all: Multistrada ("many roads"). Keep up the great reviews!
Italiano: "Che sorpresa vedere un video dall’Italia! Sono curioso di sapere che impressione ti ha fatto il nostro bel paese, e se avrai la possibilità di visitare un po’. Bologna e Firenze sono vicine tra loro e sue magnifiche città. Buon viaggio o buon rientro comune!" Inglese: "What a surprise to see a video from Italy! I'm curious to know what impression our beautiful country has left on you and if you have the chance to spend a few days. Bologna and Florence are close to each other and both are magnificent cities. Have a great trip !"
Wow..... V4S Grand Tour or a Harley Touring Special???? I mean, if I had a Ducati dealership in my state, that question is more of a joke than a true question. Now.... how close is the nearest Ducati dealer? EDIT: At least 5hrs away. Worth it.
I also agree with the fuel tank comment you made. The big tank belongs on the Gran Tour model and not on the Rally. Off road you 😊 need that top heavy tank.
Multistrada V4 💙 Best bikes i have ever ridden. Would have bought the S version this summer if the insurance costs hadn't been astronomical (5 times my new ATAS 😵).
Ducati следует присмотреться к Yamaha FJR1300. Надо увеличить решётку радиатора по бокам как у Diavel и увеличить бензобак как у Rally, и установить 17" спицованные колёса как у Pike Spike. Спасибо!🙏
On the heat subject, the old 1260 and 1200 bikes didnt get that hot in the summer, you could say that the Enduro 1200 and 1260 got hotter in the summer heat due to the larger fuel tank and fairing up front but the standard models were pretty cool in the summer except for maybe the seat would warm up from the rear cylinder. My 2014 is actuallly my summer touring bike for the reason that the BMW RT is hot in the summer.
Great to see some independent youtubers on these launch events. I was almost decided to get the V4 Rally next spring. Now I'm a bit torn between the GT and the Rally. I plan to mostly use it for road touring: good paved roads, bad paved roads and some unpaved roads. The extra offroad ability of Rally is not something I need or want. But I do want the extra range, better wind protection and the improved engine. The Rally engine not only has better heat management and slightly better fuel consumption, it also has an improved torque curve. It should behave slightly better in lower RPMs. But is it all really worth the extra couple grands? First world problems ...
They should have made a Grand Rally then for homologation. Strip back the off road bits and add the touring accessories while using the newer engine and larger tank.
I agree about the honesty of presentation, which is why I do enjoy the videos. When I look at this Grand Tour version, there is not one thing that appeals to me that would convince me to give up my 2021 1250RT. It looks like most of the day was spent in 3rd gear to keep the rev's up to stay away from the clunky lower rev range. Nope, not for me, oh and one more thing. What's a chain?? :)
I don't find the tank beeing to small...if you drive like a maniac, you would still manage more than 200km per tank, and I'd like to see someone gives it that kind of poke for full 200km on public roads. If you tour it, it will manage 280-350km per tank easy, at least v4s did it. And I'm not talking slooooow riding...normal with fluid riding and numerous overtakes. P.s I think 8.4 l/100km is normal for a test ride...as you said, you had it mostly above 5000 rpm to exploit that powerful engine. Oh and of course...love your reviews, they are really in my top 5 on YT. Thanks for that!
I bought a 2014 Gran Torisimo (GT) model which is a 1200S model with all the parts in the parts bin at that time. It is the way to go if your wanting all the necessary touring parts and features. I still feel as if my 1200 is a capable machine with 150 HP. Yes i changed the seat added a GPS but it has the trunk, bags, bag liners and aux lights. One thing that my bike has that the new ones don’t have is a17” front wheel. Yes i have gone off road with mine but just on dirt and gravel roads and trails. No real off road stuff and i didn’t buy it to be a dual sport anyway. On rough roads the Multi 1200 is like soo good at smoothing out bad surfaces. You hardly even notice the bad road surfaces. On my RT the fairing was shaking and rattling plus i had to slow down to keep it under control. Not on my Multi, just power through, it was almost like being on a dual sport soaking up the unruly road surface. I dont think i need to trade up to a V4. Only the service cost on the V4 is better. Besides my Multi is paid for!
Well done and honest review. I an on my 2nd Multi now 2017 1200S tour and I was looking to upgrade if they offered larger tank similiar to the Rally. I completely agree with you on their de ision not to offer the larger tank they have it backwards. Off road should be lighter on road should be heavier. There is not that much difference in handling from Rally with larger tank. I was going to upgrade now im not since im really buying a V4S what a let down. Must be time for something else. I ha e repeatly asked everyone including Ducati and they told me over a year ago to look forward to them adding these features , doesnt look like that will happen now. They induced their own issues with this bike by not building off the RALLY this is a step back. Ducati needs to listen to its customer base. Thanks for the excellent and truthful review.
Totally agree with your question to Ducati re 19" front Ian.. If the 19" front is superior then why spec it for the Pikes Peak?! Sounds like they were really trying to suggest that it has offroad chops and therefore keep KTM at bay? However a major problem with 19" front is that there is close to zero choice of performance road rubber - And on soft road sports tour rubber you esentially only have another sports touring machine.. At that price? Sounds like V4 RS or Pikes Peak are therefore weapons of choice. Be great if you could nominate the front wheel size and offer as an option actually
The phone holder doesn’t exist on the GS either. I use the Quad Lock mount with dampener anyway and would on that bike as well. I love the range on my GSA and would also want that on this bike. Even my Goldwing CarPlay is troublesome. If you lose the helmet comm connection it bails on CarPlay. I’ve had this happen several times on longer rides when the battery on the helmet dies.
Nice balanced review....I know you had to shell out a few $ to do this trip.....but still not bad deal to ride a Ducati in Italy 🤣. And yes jet lag does suck.
Ducati take note. Ian just gave you the advice you need to follow. Pity they did not consult him beforehand. Most important, the engine should be the updated version with cylinder deactivation. And the larger fuel tank, for Europe where petrol stations are numerous, is not so essential, especially when you save weight.
I have a 2014 Multistrada and it has a small compartment in the fairing on the right side. I keep my registration and insurance card in there. I do think they should bring that back but make it a little bigger and take the compartment off of the gas tank. Using a tank bag interferes with the tank located compartment.
Nice to see you enjoying yourself in Italy Iain it's a great place. I think the ducati is the most expensive adventure bike and the most powerful, are these bikes capable of doing over 100k miles like a GS ? also no shaft.
Saw one of these at a local dealer today. I was surprised at how tall it sat, too tall for someone like me w/a 30" inseam. Pretty bike tho, nice color schemes.
Well I am looking at this exact model currently and was looking to buy this summer. But if heat is a problem IDK i will move forward with it. I've gotten rid of my last V-Twin Indian Springfield because I got tired of V-Twin heat. If this is the same I will have to pass on it. Will test ride in 2 days
Ian, you have become THE number one reviewer in the world, in my opinion and I congratulate you on your success, which only is due to your hard work. As for the bike, I feel it is too much of too much. Too expensive, too powerful. IMHO you can do the same trips with same comfort on a Tiger 900 GT, at half the price almost, and I'd much rather have an Africa Twin or a Tiger for the longer touring trips and a smaller and lighter bike for off road, at about the same price. For me, a Yamaha Tracer GT Plus is more than enough for touring and an enduro bike for off road. I believe this bike is for someone with too much money and not enough knowledge!
On the smaller fuel tank issue, probably it’s because it’s harder to find a gas station when you’re off roading and long distance ride as compare to a road bias ride.
Hi Ian, thanks for the great review. I live in a pretty warm part of Australia so I’d appreciate knowing how hot the day was while you were testing? Just to get some idea of how hot a day would facilitate the engine heat becoming a real issue?
That average fuel consumption of more than 8l/100km, if the value on the moto display is correct, would really remove any desire to buy this ducati. Luckily for me, I don't have enough money for such an expensive bike anyway 😅
With the choice of the Rally having the big tank, I can't help but think it's because it compares closer to the GSA. I'm sure that had something to do with it. With the price, i bet they were thinking they would only do one bike like that and they chose the rally to go up against the GSA.
Seeing the color of the engine casing from the right side throws off the looks for me. It would look better in a dark Grey rather than what they picked.
10:49 it was 70 km/h 9:38 and you've done 144 km/h a few seconds before 😉 there *probably* would be non-strict threshold about 20-30 km/h, but not 70+ 😅
I truly believe that with a few changes - longer fuel range, reduced engine heat, more comfortable seat, and less glitchy phone integration - this would be a world-beating motorcycle. As is, it's still amazing, and I love it. Agree or disagree?
Yes, Ducati flew me to Italy and fed me nice meals for 3 days. Yes, my review is still impartial. Why? This trip took 5 days with travel, involved some un-reimbursable costs, and I'll be lucky to make $400 from this video. You do the math - a trip like this is a business LOSS for me, however, it's my goal to review new models and bring you accurate information. Just being honest!
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The same issues I had with my 2016 Multistrada ....... Seat was horrible for Touring, hope the electronic glitches were worked out.....
I’m sensing Ian , that you prefer that sweet BMW S1k M package you test rode 💀
Every 2024 bike needs Android/AppleCarPlay. Love it on my 2021 AT AS ES DCT ❤
I hope you enjoyed your time in Italy, one of the best countries in the world!
Just goes to show that virtually "all" motorcycles (regardless of price) have their plus and minuses
I love how Ian doesn’t get intimidated by the hype. If there are downsides, he’ll say it.
I try!
@@BigRockMoto Seriously Ian, it shows not only good ethics, but the maturity to not get caught up in the experience to be objective. That's something most people would struggle with.
@@useless274 I've seen him mention KTM reliability more than once ;)
Let's hope Ducati continues to invite him to these events. Hopefully, he blended into his comments enough platitudes to keep the invitations coming!
@@JohnJay1745 Ducati to Ian being Subie to TFL? Meh, hopefully, they’re more adults than that…
Congrats Ian i never expected to see you in Italy but that really shows your dedication to the channel i hope your audience sees that too.
Keep the honest reviews and your channel will grow for shure.
Cheers from Portugal
Thanks! 😃
I follow a lot motor vlogs, but the most professional and extensive reviews are made by Ian, also with a lot sense for details.
Keep on the good work
I appreciate that!
Great review! I’ll take performance over fuel range any day:) I toured with other models before testing a Multi and couldn’t go back after the test ride. It’s hands down the best bike I’ve owned. The V4 engine, suspension and overall handling of this bike is amazing! I don’t think there’s enough significant changes on this model to necessarily justify it, I’d still choose the standard V4s. Thanks for pointing out the negatives, which all bikes have, a great balanced review.
Honesty is in short supply these days. Except your channel. Tell it like it is brother. I appreciate your knowledge and strait shooter approach. Thanks very much
I love your reviews Ian. Always the most complete and honest. That’s why we keep coming back for more!
I appreciate that!
@@BigRockMoto I was hoping for a pickup test though. 😉 You might have gotten some funny looks, or since it’s an Italian company in Italy, thrown out on your ear to France.
Congratulations on being selected to participate in the launch. That is a big deal and well deserved. Credit to you for not fawning all over a V4S with some panniers and fog lights added. I guess the next model will have a louder horn and a chain oiler.
Hi Ian, great review as always! I'm happy to see that manufacturers (or at least Ducati) is starting to recognize your expertise and skills! I'm also happy that you really enjoyed your stay in Italy but remember: Italy is a very diverse country, even in a couple of hundreds kms difference the landscape, architectures and roads can vary a lot!
Great review as always Ian and nice to see you on European roads where the Multi is at its best. Best motorcycle available, fantastic features and build quality and I’m a proud owner.
Never have to justify why you do what you do and how you earn your keep.We watch your channel because you are a cut obove some of your fellow journalists and I suspect your following is growing by the day.Thanking you.
Significant that Ducati flew you out to review this. Really happy for you and your channel's continued growth, Ian.
Agreed 100% with your concerns re tank and engine choice. I don't understand the rationale for the 19" front, though, as it seems to contradict both common motorcycle knowledge as well as physics -- the 19" is better for lower skilled riders but not for higher skilled?
I love what you're doing with the intros! You should carry that energy into the rest of the video :D Your formula is great, but it's nice to see you flexing the creativity a bit.
Congratulations Ian for your invitation to the launch. That's big for the channel. Now, the good news about a Gran Tour version is that it means an update in November 2024.
Congratulations Ian for your invitation to the launch. That's big for the channel. Now, the good news about a Gran Tour version is that it means an update in November 2024...
Hello IAN.
I have no complaints about your review, but I am sorry that others are focusing only on the shortcomings of the V4S.
Fuel economy can be increased if the engine is revved down, which is the general standard for a 1200cc engine. That is a sport bike.
The engine is also not hot except for the frame. This is also not a problematic level for a large displacement engine.
However, I cannot defend the navigation system alone. It is the worst.
You are right, overall it is a great bike. I hope it gets a fair evaluation.
I can just repeat what many others already said: really honest and trustworthy review. Thanks! ✌️
I appreciate that!
Appreciate what you do, Ian! 👍
My pleasure!
Great review as usual! What an epic trip!
Great video Ian and great review…I’m Italian and I’m proud of Ducati products! Thanks a lot for your beautiful words about Italy. Next time you come please come to Tuscany…you’ll be overwhelmed by twisty roads…and gravel roads (like the Eroica) Cheers, Gabriele
I’ve risen the new Multistrada V4s multiple time and have fallen in love with the bike, the only draw back for me is the poor fuel mileage.
A friend of mine and I do touring through Baja on which he rides his Multistrada and best we’ve been able to stretch his tank is 198 miles.
The bike needs a 200-250 mile fuel range.
Great review.
Another great and honest review, as always. I agree with every point you made, but one. I think (with admitted invested Bias) that the Rally is the best model to get; despite the extra cost. It fixes all of the issues (range, wind, heat (sorta) ect.) that all of the other V4 Multistrada models suffer from. You can always put less fuel in the larger tank for local rides. Thanks Ian. Great review
Great to see reviewers like you coming over 'the pond' to us in Europe and trying the bikes in their own back yard. Good honest review. I'm thinking V4 Rallye with Panniers then? You might not make loads of money making this review but it dragged a yank out of the US for a few days ;-)
Great review. Right on the money on the tank size in my opinion. Gorgeous area to ride!
Totally agree!
Awesome video Ian ! Love the honest reviews you always give! Nice to see you riding in Europe 👌
Thanks! 👍
7:40 Much nicer looking bike that the other Multistradas. Nice colour scheme as well....gold and black and red.
I can't belive you've been just a couple kilometres from where I live!
I hope that you have enjoyed the roads that I normally do with my Tuareg!
So it's essentially a fully loaded parts bin special rushed out the door before the BMW R1300 GS arrives to steal Ducati's lunch!
I continue to be fascinated with the concerns about how much heavier bikes are when they have larger fuel tanks. Although I cannot confirm with data, my guess is...the actual weight difference between small/large tanks is minimal. The difference comes from the volume of fuel put inside. To date, I've not seen a rule book that says a 30l tanks needs 30l of fuel. In other words, a 30l tank with 20l of fuel will weigh the same as a 20l tank with 20l of fuel.
Agreed. I have a 1250 GSA with a 30ltr tank. During daily use I put 18-20ltrs in it for commuting otherwise you are effectively burning fuel to carry fuel but I have the option to fill it up when I want to on my trips around Europe. Also worth considering that big tanks go hand in hand with big luggage so a touring bike fully loaded is always going to be heavy no matter how big the tank is.
Everyone who thinks 100hp is enough never rode one of these. All bikes need this much power. My Pan America feels so slow compared to my buddies Ducati. Amazing fun.
It depends on your riding prefereces - on tarmac with good grip you are absolutely correct. However on a gravel or without good grip you cannot see a difference because you don't have any way to transfer all that power into moving forward (For example th-cam.com/video/9cTM5Rff-Y8/w-d-xo.html)
I echo some of the other comments on here, your points are fair and make good sense. I’ve been thinking of updating my current V4s multi, but this doesn’t cut the mustard. I would buy a new multi “GT” with a bigger tank, better heat control and the rally paint scheme. This one doesn’t look so sharp. Glad you enjoyed the location. We’re a couple of hours from your location, just over the border in the south of France…..much drier here and many superb roads, and many famous ones, so let us know if yer coming back. I think the current multi is perfect for these roads, but sitting in slow traffic in hot weather does create an uncomfortable heat issue. They need to fix that, preferably for the old bikes too.
Another great real world review, Ian - thank you.
I agree with you GT give it the 30lt tanks and rally 20lt it does not make sense what they did. Many say and think the same.
Hey, it sounds like this machine is perfect for rides with frequent relief stops - to cool your legs and refuel. Winter rides will be nice with heated seat, grips and built-in leg warmer. Italy looks beautiful!
I agree with other comments; what riders want is an accurate and comprehensive description of a bike’s performance. That said, bias is unavoidable and there’s always subjective and objective impressions. The reviews this site offers are getting better and better - as good a place as any to figure out if the juice one gets from a test ride is worth the squeeze of finding one.
As a former Multistrada V4S owner now a Tuareg I was actually impressed with the gas mileage and gas tank range, I had to take my necessary breaks & never was in a place where I was worried about needing gas, if you're not heavy on the throttle which isn't just as fun 😅, had no issues whatsoever with reliability or parts availability but if getting one of these you know what your want at that point. Problem is they're getting a bit too $$$ now, best to find a lightly used one that someone hasn't ridden.
Ian
Fantastic review! As usual you cut right to the bone. I agree, for being the Grand Tour the gas tank is puny. It should have the 30L like my Tiger GT Explorer. Especially when the V4 engine really sucks gas! I drove the regular MultiStrada and the engine heat is awful and the wind protection is not what I'm used to. My Mannequin agrees that I should stick with my Tiger.
Ride SAFE and BE safe Sir! 👍👍
Way to go, Ian. Luv the ‘respectful irreverence’ esp re fuel economy, windscreen, tank size, mobile integration. This is a pricey machine, and it has a lot of features that befit the price tag. But also a lot of things that don’t. Thx for unabashedly pointing those out. Btw, omg would luv to ride Italy esp just north of Florence. Enjoy buddy!
12:40 you’re absolutely right!
Dig the tune in the opening sequence.
Great video!
Glad you enjoyed it
great and honest review! agree with the downsides.. but still a great bike :)
Thanks! 👍
U! Besides the fantastic review, you have fantastic music with this video!
Very helpful review as always. The very limited range between fuel stops is a huge problem for me. I live in the U.S. Rocky Mountains and prefer to ride remote highways. Thanks for your numerous insights.
Realistic mileage with two -up bags and medium sporty riding will yield 35-38 MPG. 170-200 miles has been my experience over 9000 miles.
If you liked roads and scenery in Emilia Romagna next time you are in Italy please come a bit more to South... in Abruzzo Region...you'll be very much surprised and stunned...
I have the V4s full, so I already have all these extras. It still has cylinder deactivation, but it is not until idle.
I love my bike so much and wouldn't change it or anything on it.
Maybe fuel economy but smiles per mile are awesome.
Well Ian, it looks like you have made the big time. Congrats on being invited to Italy and riding such a marvelous bike. Now, while you are there, any chance on visiting Aprilia and testing their V-4 models???
Imagine tryin to ride that bike in the southern USA with the heat and humidity. Your leg is gonna bake. Ugh. Fair review, thanks and I agree on the other critical points you made.
If you close your eyes for a milli second in Italy your off the bike,any way apart from the sarcasm on my part great vlog as usuall i should have bought a V 4 instead of the PAS (pan america special) always breaking down and now the prices have dropped at the dealerships you can not sell the damn thing for a good price.
You brought up the exact issues I did. The fuel economy paired with the small tank makes the Rally much more appealing. Also, you seemed to be OK with the Rally seat vs. the S. Maybe the extra legroom helped?
Coming from a '16 1290 SA, I really appreciate minimizing fuel stops, even as a commuter. And the sorry state of roads in CA make me lean toward spoke wheels vs. forged. The new valve adjust intervals are a huge plus!
Well done review Ian, and I agree with your comments 100%. As a owner of new '22 V4S, I've averaged 29.9mpg through my 1st 1k miles, so I anticipated the Grand Tour surely would have the Rally tank on it? Bluntly, its an exercise in accessorizing, although at a better value. So why not an accessory gas can for the rear seat? 🤔 I'd buy one in Ducati Red please. Fortunately, it is an astonishly incredible machine with unmatched fit and finish. I think of mine as 3 bikes for the price of 2 - I can take a long tour, to do some track laps, and then go hit the trails. You'd have to stop for gas prior to each, but its name says it all: Multistrada ("many roads"). Keep up the great reviews!
Italiano: "Che sorpresa vedere un video dall’Italia! Sono curioso di sapere che impressione ti ha fatto il nostro bel paese, e se avrai la possibilità di visitare un po’. Bologna e Firenze sono vicine tra loro e sue magnifiche città. Buon viaggio o buon rientro comune!"
Inglese: "What a surprise to see a video from Italy! I'm curious to know what impression our beautiful country has left on you and if you have the chance to spend a few days. Bologna and Florence are close to each other and both are magnificent cities. Have a great trip !"
Wow..... V4S Grand Tour or a Harley Touring Special???? I mean, if I had a Ducati dealership in my state, that question is more of a joke than a true question. Now.... how close is the nearest Ducati dealer?
EDIT: At least 5hrs away. Worth it.
No roundabouts in California where I lived most of my life, so it was surprising to me when I moved to Arizona to find roundabouts everywhere!
I also agree with the fuel tank comment you made. The big tank belongs on the Gran Tour model and not on the Rally. Off road you 😊 need that top heavy tank.
Great review
Multistrada V4 💙 Best bikes i have ever ridden. Would have bought the S version this summer if the insurance costs hadn't been astronomical (5 times my new ATAS 😵).
Ducati следует присмотреться к Yamaha FJR1300. Надо увеличить решётку радиатора по бокам как у Diavel и увеличить бензобак как у Rally, и установить 17" спицованные колёса как у Pike Spike. Спасибо!🙏
Awesome that you got to test abroad!
Thanks! 😃
On the heat subject, the old 1260 and 1200 bikes didnt get that hot in the summer, you could say that the Enduro 1200 and 1260 got hotter in the summer heat due to the larger fuel tank and fairing up front but the standard models were pretty cool in the summer except for maybe the seat would warm up from the rear cylinder. My 2014 is actuallly my summer touring bike for the reason that the BMW RT is hot in the summer.
Great to see some independent youtubers on these launch events. I was almost decided to get the V4 Rally next spring. Now I'm a bit torn between the GT and the Rally. I plan to mostly use it for road touring: good paved roads, bad paved roads and some unpaved roads. The extra offroad ability of Rally is not something I need or want. But I do want the extra range, better wind protection and the improved engine. The Rally engine not only has better heat management and slightly better fuel consumption, it also has an improved torque curve. It should behave slightly better in lower RPMs. But is it all really worth the extra couple grands? First world problems ...
I'd get the Rally
They should have made a Grand Rally then for homologation. Strip back the off road bits and add the touring accessories while using the newer engine and larger tank.
yep
Great review as usual, thank you. I’m looking forward to your opinion about the new BMW GS 1300 and.. Italy = Paradise on earth!
I agree about the honesty of presentation, which is why I do enjoy the videos. When I look at this Grand Tour version, there is not one thing that appeals to me that would convince me to give up my 2021 1250RT. It looks like most of the day was spent in 3rd gear to keep the rev's up to stay away from the clunky lower rev range. Nope, not for me, oh and one more thing. What's a chain?? :)
I don't find the tank beeing to small...if you drive like a maniac, you would still manage more than 200km per tank, and I'd like to see someone gives it that kind of poke for full 200km on public roads. If you tour it, it will manage 280-350km per tank easy, at least v4s did it. And I'm not talking slooooow riding...normal with fluid riding and numerous overtakes.
P.s I think 8.4 l/100km is normal for a test ride...as you said, you had it mostly above 5000 rpm to exploit that powerful engine.
Oh and of course...love your reviews, they are really in my top 5 on YT. Thanks for that!
That bike is one in my top 3 to get, but it is very expensive.
I bought a 2014 Gran Torisimo (GT) model which is a 1200S model with all the parts in the parts bin at that time. It is the way to go if your wanting all the necessary touring parts and features. I still feel as if my 1200 is a capable machine with 150 HP. Yes i changed the seat added a GPS but it has the trunk, bags, bag liners and aux lights. One thing that my bike has that the new ones don’t have is a17” front wheel. Yes i have gone off road with mine but just on dirt and gravel roads and trails. No real off road stuff and i didn’t buy it to be a dual sport anyway. On rough roads the Multi 1200 is like soo good at smoothing out bad surfaces. You hardly even notice the bad road surfaces. On my RT the fairing was shaking and rattling plus i had to slow down to keep it under control. Not on my Multi, just power through, it was almost like being on a dual sport soaking up the unruly road surface. I dont think i need to trade up to a V4. Only the service cost on the V4 is better. Besides my Multi is paid for!
15:30 I'm guessing the too small phone holder would be even less useful if you use a tank bag...or can you feed a power cable out of it?
Well done and honest review. I an on my 2nd Multi now 2017 1200S tour and I was looking to upgrade if they offered larger tank similiar to the Rally. I completely agree with you on their de ision not to offer the larger tank they have it backwards. Off road should be lighter on road should be heavier. There is not that much difference in handling from Rally with larger tank. I was going to upgrade now im not since im really buying a V4S what a let down. Must be time for something else. I ha e repeatly asked everyone including Ducati and they told me over a year ago to look forward to them adding these features , doesnt look like that will happen now. They induced their own issues with this bike by not building off the RALLY this is a step back. Ducati needs to listen to its customer base. Thanks for the excellent and truthful review.
7:30 is that Spurgeon from Revzilla?
Totally agree with your question to Ducati re 19" front Ian.. If the 19" front is superior then why spec it for the Pikes Peak?! Sounds like they were really trying to suggest that it has offroad chops and therefore keep KTM at bay? However a major problem with 19" front is that there is close to zero choice of performance road rubber - And on soft road sports tour rubber you esentially only have another sports touring machine.. At that price? Sounds like V4 RS or Pikes Peak are therefore weapons of choice. Be great if you could nominate the front wheel size and offer as an option actually
Would you consider the engine heat a dealbreaker? Also did they fix it on the rally edition.
The phone holder doesn’t exist on the GS either. I use the Quad Lock mount with dampener anyway and would on that bike as well. I love the range on my GSA and would also want that on this bike. Even my Goldwing CarPlay is troublesome. If you lose the helmet comm connection it bails on CarPlay. I’ve had this happen several times on longer rides when the battery on the helmet dies.
Nice balanced review....I know you had to shell out a few $ to do this trip.....but still not bad deal to ride a Ducati in Italy 🤣. And yes jet lag does suck.
I personally think the multistrada 950s is the sweet spot in the multistrada range. And you save like 10 grand!
What gloves are those? Those look sick.
Make your way to Cumming, GA. Roundabouts pop-up overnight here.
Ducati take note. Ian just gave you the advice you need to follow. Pity they did not consult him beforehand. Most important, the engine should be the updated version with cylinder deactivation. And the larger fuel tank, for Europe where petrol stations are numerous, is not so essential, especially when you save weight.
I have a 2014 Multistrada and it has a small compartment in the fairing on the right side. I keep my registration and insurance card in there. I do think they should bring that back but make it a little bigger and take the compartment off of the gas tank. Using a tank bag interferes with the tank located compartment.
Nice to see you enjoying yourself in Italy Iain it's a great place. I think the ducati is the most expensive adventure bike and the most powerful, are these bikes capable of doing over 100k miles like a GS ? also no shaft.
I’d much prefer this over a gs any day.
Saw one of these at a local dealer today. I was surprised at how tall it sat, too tall for someone like me w/a 30" inseam. Pretty bike tho, nice color schemes.
Who did the intro music?? I’d love to hear more!
What's your favorite of the various Multi V4 models you've tested?
Rally, by far
Looking forward to your BMW F900GS review
5:15. Why would they have a smaller screen on a touring bike? Strange decision. Ditto re fuel tank.
Well I am looking at this exact model currently and was looking to buy this summer. But if heat is a problem IDK i will move forward with it. I've gotten rid of my last V-Twin Indian Springfield because I got tired of V-Twin heat. If this is the same I will have to pass on it. Will test ride in 2 days
Ian, you have become THE number one reviewer in the world, in my opinion and I congratulate you on your success, which only is due to your hard work. As for the bike, I feel it is too much of too much. Too expensive, too powerful. IMHO you can do the same trips with same comfort on a Tiger 900 GT, at half the price almost, and I'd much rather have an Africa Twin or a Tiger for the longer touring trips and a smaller and lighter bike for off road, at about the same price. For me, a Yamaha Tracer GT Plus is more than enough for touring and an enduro bike for off road. I believe this bike is for someone with too much money and not enough knowledge!
thank you for the kind words
On the smaller fuel tank issue, probably it’s because it’s harder to find a gas station when you’re off roading and long distance ride as compare to a road bias ride.
Hi Ian, thanks for the great review. I live in a pretty warm part of Australia so I’d appreciate knowing how hot the day was while you were testing? Just to get some idea of how hot a day would facilitate the engine heat becoming a real issue?
about 30C or 85 to 90 F
That average fuel consumption of more than 8l/100km, if the value on the moto display is correct, would really remove any desire to buy this ducati. Luckily for me, I don't have enough money for such an expensive bike anyway 😅
In your opinion what is the best overall adventure bike?
Thanks
With the choice of the Rally having the big tank, I can't help but think it's because it compares closer to the GSA. I'm sure that had something to do with it. With the price, i bet they were thinking they would only do one bike like that and they chose the rally to go up against the GSA.
Slight tangent, I was looking at your VStrom vid, and thinking it looks very clean…… what’s your cleaning process?
Seeing the color of the engine casing from the right side throws off the looks for me. It would look better in a dark Grey rather than what they picked.
Did you have to jump through any hoops to fly a drone?
So what is the choice? Would you trade strait up your GS1300 for the Multi GT? Or for the Rally?
Will be interesting to see if they invite you again 😅😂❤
10:49 it was 70 km/h 9:38 and you've done 144 km/h a few seconds before 😉
there *probably* would be non-strict threshold about 20-30 km/h, but not 70+ 😅
Did you recommend Rally or Grand Tour model ?