I just want to thank you for this series. I love Okami but my severe arachnaphobia has always made this battle incredibly difficult for me. I decided to play this along with the video and hearing your voice read the spider queens lines actually took the fear away and even though I know the strategy to beat her, actually doing it as you explained it really helped take my mind off her appearance. I know she doesn't actually look like a real spider but the angle of a spiders legs and general "spider-like" shape just sets something off in my brain that paralyses me. This is the first time I've managed to beat her without bursting into tears or hyperventilating. So thank you. Also the Jorogumo can be translated as prostitute/whore spider OR Geisha/Noblewoman spider. No one is saying Geishas are prostitutes, but in language terms they often get lumped together with concubines/escorts/high class prostitutes. Even though Geishas are definitely not prostitutes.
Emile, without Ume, they wouldn't have been able to get that fishing pole. Without that fishing pole, it would have been impossible to get that convenient bridge up. Just pointing that out to you.
So many people are saying it's the Geisha Spider, not Prostitute Spider. Well... *The Spider Queen (「女郎蜘蛛/上臈蜘蛛」?; jorōgumo; lit. prostitute spider/noblewoman spider) is the boss of Tsuta Ruins and the first boss in Ōkami* Copied straight from the Ōkami wiki. It's Japanese name _is_ Prostitute Spider.
BTW, The Spider Queen's japanese name sort of makes sense once you look up the japanese creature it's based off of. It was based after a spider/ghost thing that would pose as a young woman, then luring Men into it's home to then wrap them in silk and suck them dry of fluids like a traditional spider. I am betting a perverted Capcom employee was thinking long and hard about that last thing for the "Prostitute Spider" to come to life...
I just checked the article on Wikipedia and the kanji match with it's in-game name (and the boss is pretty similar to the Yokai anyway), so I'm pretty sure you're right.
People, take a second when Okami and the kid get pulled onto the log with Susano and listen to the music! It's so good and defines/compliments the situation, urgency and that not only yours, but 2-3 other lives are in your hands!
Heh, I've always thought that Issun just compliments people whenever Ammy does things for them like slashing for Susano and creating the bridge for the kid as something to boost their confidence in themselves.
Fun fact: The hair that the Spider Queen has is reminiscent of Sadako Yamamura from the Japanese horror movie, The Ring, and its subsequent sequels and American remakes.
in my opinion the most epically epic line of epicness ever is "my friends are my power" when ventus says that. probably because as a normal character he can acomplish whatever he wants. kinda like sonic.
I tell ya, that boss is gonna be High Octane Nightmare Fuel for anyone who's afraid of spiders. What am I saying? It's High Octane Nightmare Fuel for anyone, period! Anyway, great vid and boss fight, Chugga! I'm looking forward to seeing what happens next! Keep up the good work! Oh and btw, I'm thinking of starting my own LP sometime when I get around to it. I'm not asking you to watch it, but I am thinking of giving you a shout out sometime during it. I hope you don't mind.
also the ume being plum makes sense,the clutch on his bandana is a pickled plum and the dog's pelt is pink with a plum blossom like many kimonos and paper items in japan
Boy oh boy, first you beat Spider Queen, then you get to be Spider-Man! Except you don't get to crowd surf a bunch of random New Yorkers with your mask off.
Hey chugga,if you go back to Konohana, you can get two treasures in fruit on the tree. Also if you examine the tree you will get a funny line from Issun! They also have two girls there and the older one gives you prays. Hope this helps you a little!
i never said this when you were back talking about the different weapon types. But i just want to bring up, now that i remember thanks to you getting snarling beast, but the reflector being used as a shield does more then just counter enemy attacks. Everytime you successfully block an attack with the reflector it also heals you a touch which can be helpful on bosses, even though the counter effect of the reflector doesnt work on bosses the healing effect does.
Wow. after watching this lp through twice, for the first time, i just realized how ironic it is how wolves supposedly howl at the MOON and amatarasu is goddess of the SUN. =.=
You know, this was a hard battle for me. The FREAKING brush mechanic would not work for me. So it took for FREAKING ever. I loved cutting her strings when she tries to go up the roof, so funny XD
I don't understand why Kokari needs to fix the bridge for us to go to our next destination if we have the power to fix bridges ourselves D: But anyway, as always... great Let's Play, Chuggaaconroy :)
9:07 Because not only is Ammy a great sun god, ruler of all animals, water bender, able to deal devastating cuts without even touching an enemy, and a total badass when it comes to wolf fu, she's also a tightrope walker!
Quick tip on the Bridge thing with Ume, Kokari, and Pops; Pause w/ brush IMMEDIATELY at the start (two there) and IMMEDIATELY press the B button when do a vine to Pause asap. Also, ONLY TRY ONE AT A TIME, AND FROM REAR TO FRONT of the Log. Helps a LOT. And don't hesitate to 'Strobe'; IE rapidly repeatedly unpress and Repress the Brush Button so can catch a Bloom onscreen. May sound/seem cheap, but in a sense so is this 'minigame'. if not like Winning, feel free not to read. BUT THIS WILL HELP.
When Issun said he saw eight of something, I thought he meant heads, not legs, and we were going to be fighting some kind of Phantom Orochi, a la Phantom Ganon from Windwaker.
@nee8321 You mean on Amaterasu (she's a wolf btw)? Its a sun disk. Its supposed to show her godhood as a sun god (plus its a weapon). If you mean un ume, its a bandana.
@chuggaaconroy Whenever I use Power Slash,the brush sometimes just goes CRAZY and brush looks like it just blows up and it kind of awkward and fat! Why does it do that?
She's based on Jorogumo, a giant spider yokai. Once a golden orb weaver has reached 100 years of age they become Jorogumo. They look lovely at first and lure men to their dens for consumption. The Japanese name for the boss being "Prostitute Spider" is a reference to another name for Jorogumo which is "Whore Bride"
Well, Waka did say they were going to have a log and great thrills in their future. That's the thing. Prophecies, even fruity ones, NEVER come true in the way (mere mortal) people expect them to. Bark bark, Ume is back, no thanks to Kokari.
I'm not sure if it's exclusive to the PS2 version but I know you can do something in like a loading screen or something like that to get those fang things...
1:15 Obviously, from the Spider Queen's reaction, this was an insult, and probably a major one, too, since very few insults get the response of "How dare you!" and blind rage. Just another reason I love this game.
@smarioman64 That's not entirely true. Even if you watch the cutscene completely, it still occasionally freezes (proven with several game discs). It's an error in the game's code. Skipping a cutscene has nothing to do with it.
Love it how he made a reference to Silent Hill. In one of the UFO endings... The protagonist discovers that "God" is actually a "Dog" controlling everything.
I just had a realization! The LP curse isn't to mess up LPers. It's to help their channel! Look how many times Chugga screws up and look at his subscription count! That is why I want to LP!
If the dogs are Akitas that is pretty cool also. Akitas are highly regarded in Japan and are the national dog of the country. Though it isnt a myth probably the most famous story of an Akita is the true story of one named Hachiko in Japan back in 1923. As a puppy he would his master to and from a train station his master took to work each day. One day his master died at his job but Hachi would still go to the train station each day for ten years until he died also.
@ultradarkflamewolf I thought they may be based off of some Japanese mythology or something, seeing as how their names are similar and they are both referred to as "forest children".
Technically, in the Okami OST, the themes used for this boss contain the name Geisha Spider. The Japanese name for the boss is therefore not -exactly- "Prostitute Spider" but that can be taken as an acceptable translation. Naturally it got changed for the English localization. Thanks, Capcom >_>
hey!! like OMG like when chugga try to get all 6 vines to attached to the log. it was kinda like in that Spiderman 2 movie where he used his web to attached the buildings to stop the very fast moving train!! how ironic??
I thought the three main areas were shinsho field, ryoshima coast and yoshpet. unless you ment for the first story arc of the game then that makes sense.
Wow Chugga was right, this is kinda like The Legend of Zelda, you basically recieve the weapon in the dungeon that will allow you to reach into places that you couldn't get to go in or on and it's useful for the Boss of the Dungeon. That's some logic right there.
If you read the text, he isn't thanking Ume for anything he contributed (which is nothing). Issun went all Philisophical on us again and gave Kokari all the credit while giving credit to Ume for giving Kokari the courage to go on an adventure. That's what he was thanking him for.
If a spider is a prostitute, then is a squid a rapist? Also, the text did say "old bag." Refer to the line right above with it's use of the letter "h" for comparison.
Just got this game, and it is freaking AMAZING, but I gotta ask: Why the hell did it take me like 6 tries to beat that damn Vine minigame, when I got perfect rank on the Spider Queen battle?!?
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I just want to thank you for this series. I love Okami but my severe arachnaphobia has always made this battle incredibly difficult for me. I decided to play this along with the video and hearing your voice read the spider queens lines actually took the fear away and even though I know the strategy to beat her, actually doing it as you explained it really helped take my mind off her appearance. I know she doesn't actually look like a real spider but the angle of a spiders legs and general "spider-like" shape just sets something off in my brain that paralyses me. This is the first time I've managed to beat her without bursting into tears or hyperventilating. So thank you.
Also the Jorogumo can be translated as prostitute/whore spider OR Geisha/Noblewoman spider. No one is saying Geishas are prostitutes, but in language terms they often get lumped together with concubines/escorts/high class prostitutes. Even though Geishas are definitely not prostitutes.
jdprettynails at least you killed a fear along with Orochi right?
jdprettynails and it also IS a spider whore lol, look at the Okami Wiki it says it is.
i love ammy's victory howl because its cool, but chibi's victory howl is ADORABLE
Emile, without Ume, they wouldn't have been able to get that fishing pole. Without that fishing pole, it would have been impossible to get that convenient bridge up. Just pointing that out to you.
"What did Ume contribute to this?"
Moral support.
XD
5:56 first time I saw that, I thought Issun was going to stab Amaterasu's head to make her howl in pain XD
This is just a joke.
Ammy: I like turtles
Spider Queen: HOW DARE YOU?!?!
So many people are saying it's the Geisha Spider, not Prostitute Spider. Well...
*The Spider Queen (「女郎蜘蛛/上臈蜘蛛」?; jorōgumo; lit. prostitute spider/noblewoman spider) is the boss of Tsuta Ruins and the first boss in Ōkami*
Copied straight from the Ōkami wiki. It's Japanese name _is_ Prostitute Spider.
3:37
And here is the proof that this is Chuggaaconroy commentating and not an imposer.
BTW, The Spider Queen's japanese name sort of makes sense once you look up the japanese creature it's based off of. It was based after a spider/ghost thing that would pose as a young woman, then luring Men into it's home to then wrap them in silk and suck them dry of fluids like a traditional spider. I am betting a perverted Capcom employee was thinking long and hard about that last thing for the "Prostitute Spider" to come to life...
A SPIDER?! WHY DOES IT HAVE TO BE A FUCKING SPIDER!?! I GET THOSE BOSSES ENOUGH IN THE ZELDA GAMES!!!
personally i think spider bosses r really freakin cool!
In this episode you get a ton of nightmare fuel,and a banquet for the Boogyman.
Rough translation of Ammy "shove it up your thorax!".
He created the trip line that got them river rafting.
Is the spider queen based on the Jorogumo?
I just checked the article on Wikipedia and the kanji match with it's in-game name (and the boss is pretty similar to the Yokai anyway), so I'm pretty sure you're right.
9:50 Dude, Amaterasu holds on to Kokari by biting his gooch... poor kid!
I don't understand how kokari can talk without a mouth
like Brok can see
AAAAAAND thetrendofbosseshangingonwith1hp CONTINUES HERE!
Now that I think about it. How would Solaire , I believe that's how it's spelled, from Dark Souls react to Amaterasu
Brock Smith sunbro wouldn't see the red markings, just a wolf
Shes his fursona
People, take a second when Okami and the kid get pulled onto the log with Susano and listen to the music! It's so good and defines/compliments the situation, urgency and that not only yours, but 2-3 other lives are in your hands!
For the love of god, geishas are not prostitutes!
Cartoon+Animefan96 I mean....technically....some of them....
+Cartoon+Animefan96 it's not a geisha it's a spider with a womans body
Cartoon+Animefan96 look at the Okami Wiki.
Maybe an oiran then?
This is two years later but the spider is a reference to the Jorogumo or Whore Spider. It's a type of demon spider.
Going back and watching this again, glad I made that choice!
Anyone else seen the Autarch and Joshscorcher's disturbing bosses list?
me
yes. How I first learned about Okami, but only considered buying it after I saw the Autarch's top 10 boss battles list.
Watching videos of this game is just what I needed in these times... I'm starting to love these little criters again :P
Oh my god. Prostitute spider. Really? Dang Japanese.
11:00 "I like how those vines were able to stretch out that far"
Ha, somebody needs to see Spiderman 2.
3:40, that became my "catch phrase" during my LP of Pikmin 2, and I did not want that to happen, not that it usually happens that often.
A Giant Spider Woman turned into a Giant Flower, If you want something beautiful then you go into nopes.
Awww The kid and his dog hugging is so cute! I love dogs!
Heh, I've always thought that Issun just compliments people whenever Ammy does things for them like slashing for Susano and creating the bridge for the kid as something to boost their confidence in themselves.
God that's cool art!
Fun fact: The hair that the Spider Queen has is reminiscent of Sadako Yamamura from the Japanese horror movie, The Ring, and its subsequent sequels and American remakes.
in my opinion the most epically epic line of epicness ever is "my friends are my power" when ventus says that. probably because as a normal character he can acomplish whatever he wants. kinda like sonic.
The most awesome thing in this game are the pictures that you see when you encounter a new enemy!!!
In a different perspective, she could've also said, "Eh, you don't impress me."
7:14 its synced perfect with his movements and so much enthusiasm!
Probably my favorite episode so far
i really like the spider queen's design, and how the humanish part of her (upper body and head) is like a nopperabou
I tell ya, that boss is gonna be High Octane Nightmare Fuel for anyone who's afraid of spiders. What am I saying? It's High Octane Nightmare Fuel for anyone, period! Anyway, great vid and boss fight, Chugga! I'm looking forward to seeing what happens next! Keep up the good work!
Oh and btw, I'm thinking of starting my own LP sometime when I get around to it. I'm not asking you to watch it, but I am thinking of giving you a shout out sometime during it. I hope you don't mind.
also the ume being plum makes sense,the clutch on his bandana is a pickled plum and the dog's pelt is pink with a plum blossom like many kimonos and paper items in japan
Boy oh boy, first you beat Spider Queen, then you get to be Spider-Man! Except you don't get to crowd surf a bunch of random New Yorkers with your mask off.
Hey chugga,if you go back to Konohana, you can get two treasures in fruit on the tree.
Also if you examine the tree you will get a funny line from Issun! They also have two girls there and the older one gives you prays. Hope this helps you a little!
i never said this when you were back talking about the different weapon types. But i just want to bring up, now that i remember thanks to you getting snarling beast, but the reflector being used as a shield does more then just counter enemy attacks. Everytime you successfully block an attack with the reflector it also heals you a touch which can be helpful on bosses, even though the counter effect of the reflector doesnt work on bosses the healing effect does.
I was half-expecting the Splinter-voice to do the end-of-boss narration here.
Wow. after watching this lp through twice, for the first time, i just realized how ironic it is how wolves supposedly howl at the MOON and amatarasu is goddess of the SUN. =.=
I love how the Kanji when Kokari hugs Ume is "Love".
You know, this was a hard battle for me. The FREAKING brush mechanic would not work for me. So it took for FREAKING ever. I loved cutting her strings when she tries to go up the roof, so funny XD
I don't understand why Kokari needs to fix the bridge for us to go to our next destination if we have the power to fix bridges ourselves D:
But anyway, as always... great Let's Play, Chuggaaconroy :)
9:07
Because not only is Ammy a great sun god, ruler of all animals, water bender, able to deal devastating cuts without even touching an enemy, and a total badass when it comes to wolf fu, she's also a tightrope walker!
No, there is a LOT more praise than what you need.
Hey chuggaa when Kokari and Ume hug each other there was a symbol it means love
Ume contributed by giving the boy 'inspiration' and bringing back his dads pole.
Quick tip on the Bridge thing with Ume, Kokari, and Pops;
Pause w/ brush IMMEDIATELY at the start (two there) and IMMEDIATELY press the B button when do a vine to Pause asap. Also, ONLY TRY ONE AT A TIME, AND FROM REAR TO FRONT of the Log. Helps a LOT.
And don't hesitate to 'Strobe'; IE rapidly repeatedly unpress and Repress the Brush Button so can catch a Bloom onscreen. May sound/seem cheap, but in a sense so is this 'minigame'. if not like Winning, feel free not to read. BUT THIS WILL HELP.
has he watched gcn? at 11:26 he says "convenient bridge is convenient" like gcn
When Issun said he saw eight of something, I thought he meant heads, not legs, and we were going to be fighting some kind of Phantom Orochi, a la Phantom Ganon from Windwaker.
Music of Taka Pass is used for the first form of the final boss from Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom.
that spider gives me a chilling reminder of the woman from Ju on.....
@nee8321 You mean on Amaterasu (she's a wolf btw)? Its a sun disk. Its supposed to show her godhood as a sun god (plus its a weapon). If you mean un ume, its a bandana.
I love your videos
"POPS is bound to POP UP somewhere!"
Chugga deserved praise from that.
Chuggaconroy: always somehow getting the bosses to a sliver of health before they stop him from doing more damage.
Yay, another video! :D Can't wait for the next one!
Okami really is the best game ive ever played on PS2
omg! did u see how amerateseu whatever flipped right over the poison purple ball? that was amazing!
@chuggaaconroy Whenever I use Power Slash,the brush sometimes just goes CRAZY and brush looks like it just blows up and it kind of awkward and fat! Why does it do that?
I hate that terrible moment when you are so close to beating a boss and then you got to go through another cycle.
She's based on Jorogumo, a giant spider yokai. Once a golden orb weaver has reached 100 years of age they become Jorogumo. They look lovely at first and lure men to their dens for consumption. The Japanese name for the boss being "Prostitute Spider" is a reference to another name for Jorogumo which is "Whore Bride"
Ahhh, cute.. when the boy and dog hug, the kanji for "love" pops up...
The boy couldn't have "fixed the bridge" without his dad's fishing rod and Ume found it, so Ume did contribute to that.
Well, Waka did say they were going to have a log and great thrills in their future. That's the thing. Prophecies, even fruity ones, NEVER come true in the way (mere mortal) people expect them to. Bark bark, Ume is back, no thanks to Kokari.
7:14 such good timing when chuggaa said "he did, but why?" with the animation
I'm not sure if it's exclusive to the PS2 version but I know you can do something in like a loading screen or something like that to get those fang things...
So the Spider boss is in the same video as the scene ripped straight from Spider-man 2?
Coincidence? I THINK NOT!
1:15
Obviously, from the Spider Queen's reaction, this was an insult, and probably a major one, too, since very few insults get the response of "How dare you!" and blind rage.
Just another reason I love this game.
What music is that when Susano comes in on the log?
@smarioman64
That's not entirely true. Even if you watch the cutscene completely, it still occasionally freezes (proven with several game discs). It's an error in the game's code. Skipping a cutscene has nothing to do with it.
Yay, Ameterasu got her Oreo back in the cutscenes!
I like video games with such graphics it makes it feel like you're really playing a GAME
Love it how he made a reference to Silent Hill. In one of the UFO endings... The protagonist discovers that "God" is actually a "Dog" controlling everything.
What do you mean I Did Badly on Time Counter: 0
the kanji when Kokari hugs Ume means love...
YAY FOR RANDOM INTEREST IN JAPANESE!
I just had a realization! The LP curse isn't to mess up LPers. It's to help their channel! Look how many times Chugga screws up and look at his subscription count! That is why I want to LP!
Spider queen is creepy! I like how ammy isnt afraid of it. She's like "Whatever".
And here I thought that floral-limbed spider queen would be a real pain in the bud! :p
Ume has a plum-blossom marking on its side. Didn't notice that last episode.
why does the music from the waterfall part remind me so much of High Max's theme from Megaman X6? o3o
If the dogs are Akitas that is pretty cool also. Akitas are highly regarded in Japan and are the national dog of the country. Though it isnt a myth probably the most famous story of an Akita is the true story of one named Hachiko in Japan back in 1923. As a puppy he would his master to and from a train station his master took to work each day. One day his master died at his job but Hachi would still go to the train station each day for ten years until he died also.
XD chugga narrating is fking awesome
@ultradarkflamewolf I thought they may be based off of some Japanese mythology or something, seeing as how their names are similar and they are both referred to as "forest children".
how come even though the log went right to the waterfall even though you had a minute left?
Technically, in the Okami OST, the themes used for this boss contain the name Geisha Spider. The Japanese name for the boss is therefore not -exactly- "Prostitute Spider" but that can be taken as an acceptable translation. Naturally it got changed for the English localization. Thanks, Capcom >_>
hey!! like OMG like when chugga try to get all 6 vines to attached to the log. it was kinda like in that Spiderman 2 movie where he used his web to attached the buildings to stop the very fast moving train!! how ironic??
this boss scared me plus the music but when you fight her again its not scary but the blossom after was good and the victory howl is awesome
I thought the three main areas were shinsho field, ryoshima coast and yoshpet. unless you ment for the first story arc of the game then that makes sense.
5:24 it does say tricky old bag...
LOL! i got an Play Station Plus ad before the video and in that ad was Okami :p
Wow Chugga was right, this is kinda like The Legend of Zelda, you basically recieve the weapon in the dungeon that will allow you to reach into places that you couldn't get to go in or on and it's useful for the Boss of the Dungeon. That's some logic right there.
If you read the text, he isn't thanking Ume for anything he contributed (which is nothing). Issun went all Philisophical on us again and gave Kokari all the credit while giving credit to Ume for giving Kokari the courage to go on an adventure. That's what he was thanking him for.
I am just LOVING how this game looks :)
Also Chugga do you plan on getting the advanced versions of like the 5 certain brush techniques that I won't mention for sake of spoilers.
If a spider is a prostitute, then is a squid a rapist?
Also, the text did say "old bag." Refer to the line right above with it's use of the letter "h" for comparison.
Just got this game, and it is freaking AMAZING, but I gotta ask:
Why the hell did it take me like 6 tries to beat that damn Vine minigame, when I got perfect rank on the Spider Queen battle?!?