I think light did ok. He baited out luigi cyclone more than I've seen anyone do. I honestly think you could shine spike luigi for free since missile is so laggy at the end.
Jacket he played the matchup well but Luigi is a terrible matchup for fox if the skill levels are even, luigis frame data on aerials snuff out fox rushes and huge out of shield whiff punishes and cyclone forces fox to play uncomfortable the whole game, I used to spam shine spike against my friend who is a Luigi main, missle laggy but so is the damn hit box, it’s a good cheese every once in a blue moon though if they try to recover deep below you
Dom Gaar fox is also very shield pressure with aerials, making fox's death percent consistently below 90% bc of up b oos. it goes both ways. luigi wins the matchup
Light is just too damn aggressive. Can't win them all like that. Didn't adapt at all to the tornadoes and on top of that fox weighs as much as a paper clip.
Grape Eggplant It looks like hes too aggressive but its not lol. You play Fox patiently, record and watch it. Guaranteed it will look like you didnt use brain, its the nature of the character
I love Elegant but he went for the grab wayyyyy too much in game 1. I’m not sure why he wanted to stay near the edge even when he wasn’t getting edgeguarded either
After Game 1 I did not see the set unfolding like that. Fox' first 2 stocks of Game 2 were nutty. Good stuff to Light but it seems like Elegant tightened up super hard and Light didnt have any good answers, maybe he got tilted?
Kyle Anderson Obviously. Fox his combos arent true, Luigi is incredible toxic to fight because of certain moves, his down b being one of them. Imagine a toxic kit that also hard counters your character. + Fox takes an insane amount of skill while Luigi doesnt, thats just another factor that tilts "he wins tho hes so much worse than me"
@@TQo1 I can see the matchup being tough for Fox but Elegant uses Luigi at almost TAS level. I dont love Luigi but credit where credit's due. Elegant is a monster and no one plays the character at his level, at least to my knowledge
Elegant exploited a serious mistake Light was making. He kept punishing how aggressive Light was with down B. If light had been able to reel it in and respect it, then I think he would have won.
Is it me, or is light looking a little flat? That looked like the last five foxes I played in elite... fast fall back air with dashes and grabs mixed in sparingly. And no ledge guard to be seen 🤔
SpongeRob Fox literally cannot edgue guard. Play Fox for a bit and youll see why "Light was looking a little flat". Hes a garbage character and Luigi forces him to play a certain way
Fox Cant handle luigi's mu. Due to luigi's strong aerials. The only thing élegant dis was to attack in every fuckin situation and it s stupidly working. I respect elegant but luigi s is kind of stupid
@Antim8ah in bracket at least, he always seems to prevent other players from advancing on. But once they beat him, it seems like that player can go on and pose a threat to the other top players, if that makes sense.
he played really bad this set for being a read heavy player all he had to do was hold shield when he had him above him or at the ledge and just upsmash out of shield on reaction
Sebastián Alonso López Aldana just gotta be patient and realize you can’t go crazy with combos in this matchup. When juggling, know that Luigi will be looking to go for a frame 3 nair or a cyclone which is invincible on start up. Also don’t be afraid to camp with lasers. Luigi has trouble approaching so don’t make it easy for him to get near you.
TQ BD the playstyle difference. Just cuz the best fox lost to Elegant doesn’t mean any other fox has no chance. Look at Marrs vs Paiserman. He’s clearly not the best Fox and yet he beat Marrs unlike Light. You can’t just say that the best player of “this character” lost doesn’t mean other players have no chance to win
really frustrating to not be able to recover as luigi too... there's a reason every top player puts him at mid tier or lower. and in a game where most neutral is played in the air or by spacing, having a slow ranged grab isn't exactly something that's super broken, unless you're little mac
is that you You used his recovery as a major reason as to why hes "mid tier or lower" while Fox is infamous to die every single time hes offstage but youd still put him top tier? Gtfo, casual. The reason Luigi is "not good" is because his insanely limited mobility. If they gave him just a little more aerial drift and accelaration speed hed instantly be god tier. If they gave him a good recovery literally nothing would change. Also, in this mu specifically Luigi was always able to recover because Fox literally cant edgue guard, doesnt that make him high tier according to your logic?
TQ BD actually no, but in this match up, he isn't as affected by his mobility as much as a more zoning character. if you're really arguing that luigis recovery doesn't hinder him, and also that it's better than fox's idk why you wasted your time commenting. a huge reason luigi is low on the tier list is bc of the matchup spread. zoners and camping characters destroy luigi bc of his limited mobility, and it makes neutral difficult against a lot of characters with spacing tools. fox isn't much of a zoner, and both play close ranged and so low air mobility doesn't play a huge role in the fight. if you'd like me to discuss every single pro and con of luigi and my explanation of why he's in the middle of mid tier on my tier list, read up on smashboards or join to luigicord, not a short comment about his grab on youtube, "casual". sincerely, luigi main Dad? (2004-2019)
@@lxvi2441 Kinda sad how you dont see how "not intelligent" you and your comments are. Saying that Luigis limited mobility doesnt matter against is a HUGE argument for my side. If Luigi had any mobility he would be broken. Against Fox that one thing they took away from Luigi (mobility) doesnt matter. Do you understand? Same with Chrom. "Chrom would be a top 5 character if he had a real recovery" Fox cannot exploit his recovery which means he is basically fighting a top 5 character. You low IQ individual. "zoners and camping characters destroy luigi bc of his limited mobility", ONCE AGAIN LITERALLY WHAT I SAID. If Luigi had any mobility hed insantly be top tier. All the follow ups hed get would be disgusting. His neutral would be way too good with his lagless zair and neutral b if he could drift around and spam his aerials that would lead into sick combos. Youre agreeing with me 24/7 but argue against me?? Fact is that Luigi wouldnt climb one bit with an actual recovery while giving him mobility would make him broken. Idfk what youre trying
Down b is annoying But for some reason light was either trying to parry or let go early. I figure it's the ladder. He deserved to lose. But elegant is eliminated anyway.
Christopher Hammond their fault if they wanna look in the comments, anyone who’s ever watched a set on TH-cam knows there are spoilers everywhere at this point
@@seansolo3583 Seriously? Anyone that wants to watch a game has an obligation not to look in the comments because they should know that people are dickheads?
Christopher Hammond I’m not saying that’s how it should be, I’m saying that’s how it is, and people know that. It’s pointless to try and stop it, and I think it’s naive to think otherwise. People will spoil, if you don’t want to be spoiled, stay out of the comments
10:12
Perfectly in sync
LMAO
Lol! Nice catch.
Elegant actually did superb
Great to see Elegant doing so well!
This match felt like it was on 125 play back speed. 2 extremely good players pushing each other
Yooooo! Losers side is stacked now lmfao. Great set from Elegant
the way Elegant answered back for Light's last-stock zero-to-death in game 1 with his first stock zero-to-death was outstanding
"Misfiring on the pop-off" lmao
Looking like LTC7 Elegant.
The music n between these fights are 👌🏽🔥
cressie horne right
elegant‘s luigi has been murdering foxes since smash 4, good job on light for keeping it competitive
I think light did ok. He baited out luigi cyclone more than I've seen anyone do. I honestly think you could shine spike luigi for free since missile is so laggy at the end.
Jacket he played the matchup well but Luigi is a terrible matchup for fox if the skill levels are even, luigis frame data on aerials snuff out fox rushes and huge out of shield whiff punishes and cyclone forces fox to play uncomfortable the whole game, I used to spam shine spike against my friend who is a Luigi main, missle laggy but so is the damn hit box, it’s a good cheese every once in a blue moon though if they try to recover deep below you
STRAY Fox is super anti grab, makes most of the neutral 5x harder for Luigi.
Dom Gaar Luigi definitely wins the match ups
@@domgaar9933 Yes yes communism
Dom Gaar fox is also very shield pressure with aerials, making fox's death percent consistently below 90% bc of up b oos. it goes both ways. luigi wins the matchup
Wow. Elegant played so well! Amazing job! Also I love the way his misfired on his pop off
lmao Elegant wasn't there anymore on the final player cam
Light is just too damn aggressive. Can't win them all like that. Didn't adapt at all to the tornadoes and on top of that fox weighs as much as a paper clip.
@LyfeGlyder yeah lol that's definitely the point of the comment. You're the reason I wear condoms.
LyfeGlyder Lmao what comment are you reading?
Grape Eggplant It looks like hes too aggressive but its not lol. You play Fox patiently, record and watch it. Guaranteed it will look like you didnt use brain, its the nature of the character
11:47 hits connect perfectly with the music
Oh ya?
@@meepmonster750 yup
Elegant is actually my hero as an aspiring luigi main
This match was exhilarating
12:33 cannot believe the announcers just said MOGUL MOVES
I love the back to back 0 to deaths at the end of the first match and beginning if the second match
So do I
@@forex2893 u a luigi main too?
@@diet_water7424 yes I am!
These announcers need to do every smash tournament.
Light played so slow and well game 1 but he got antsy for the rest of the set. Should've kept it calm and cool
Damn. All respect to light but this is a good day for me! Got to see my favorite player destroy such a legend like light.
Elegant did really well this game. Sad he got eliminated.
no light got sent to losers and this helped me a lot in fox matchups when I'm luigi since u basically got to wait for him
That song toward the end anyone? I need that.....
I think this is the 2nd top 10 member he took out
I love Elegant but he went for the grab wayyyyy too much in game 1. I’m not sure why he wanted to stay near the edge even when he wasn’t getting edgeguarded either
Can someone please tell where they're getting this music between fights?
All music during the event is provided courtesy of Matt Houston & LMTLESS, and can all be found here! th-cam.com/users/LMTLESS
2:28 Luigi's punch Man (one punch Man)
Anyone know The set count between these two?
I honestly don't like Foxes very much, but seeing Light fight Elegant like the legend he is was truly an amazing experience.
I miss watching offline tourneys so damn much
same. i just come back here and watch old VODs to fill the void
Yo what is that music I need it in my life
Ooh my god, the batle of 2 titans😰😰😎😎😇
After Game 1 I did not see the set unfolding like that. Fox' first 2 stocks of Game 2 were nutty. Good stuff to Light but it seems like Elegant tightened up super hard and Light didnt have any good answers, maybe he got tilted?
Kyle Anderson Obviously. Fox his combos arent true, Luigi is incredible toxic to fight because of certain moves, his down b being one of them. Imagine a toxic kit that also hard counters your character. + Fox takes an insane amount of skill while Luigi doesnt, thats just another factor that tilts "he wins tho hes so much worse than me"
@@TQo1 I can see the matchup being tough for Fox but Elegant uses Luigi at almost TAS level. I dont love Luigi but credit where credit's due. Elegant is a monster and no one plays the character at his level, at least to my knowledge
ElegantHands!!
Let's go ELEGANT
How does elegant have the heart in his name?
Elegant exploited a serious mistake Light was making. He kept punishing how aggressive Light was with down B. If light had been able to reel it in and respect it, then I think he would have won.
Davey Grimes How much more u want him to respect his down b? lol
But I just saw a in Genesis 8 the other day? At least I think I did. I'm not sure anymore 😅.
It was probably glitch 8
Misfire on the popoff lmao
someone just buy light a vest already, he knows they exist right?
mako lmao he says he rather roll up the sleeve for some reason
Lol, that's his ritual bro. He's ascending to the next level.
Elegant played out of his mind.
Luigi down B just be ignoring Light's true combos.
Using fox for this matchup is like using a hammer to fix a car. (NOT THE RIGHT TOOL)
Is it me, or is light looking a little flat? That looked like the last five foxes I played in elite... fast fall back air with dashes and grabs mixed in sparingly. And no ledge guard to be seen 🤔
What are you talking about? He ledgetrapped Elegant for almost half the set.
SpongeRob Fox literally cannot edgue guard. Play Fox for a bit and youll see why "Light was looking a little flat". Hes a garbage character and Luigi forces him to play a certain way
First off... why tf does Luigi's nair do 15% DAMAGE!! 😡 :25
00:25
Props to elegant taking out light. But Light is making a hell of a loser run right now.
Lets go Elegant!
Woo!
Elegant vs fox never changes
Brandon Leong Luigi vs Fox. (:
13:10
Elegant is a god at adapting
Elegant the reason i even play luigi
I cant see Fox winning this matchup
Fox Cant handle luigi's mu. Due to luigi's strong aerials. The only thing élegant dis was to attack in every fuckin situation and it s stupidly working. I respect elegant but luigi s is kind of stupid
Light got downloaded...
elegant looks like a mean person
jesus christ, good shit elegant
Lets go
Ayye sick
Light was just as free here as he was at Glitch 8.
He is in the top 8...
And even in Glitch he got 13 out of 980.. I wouldn’t call the man “free” he’s top 10 for a reason
kirby main looking free
I feel like Light is the gatekeeper for the top players
@Antim8ah in bracket at least, he always seems to prevent other players from advancing on. But once they beat him, it seems like that player can go on and pose a threat to the other top players, if that makes sense.
@@bigredog100 He's also the gatekeeper for top 10 as he's been that twice now lol.
@@RadoriNighthawk That's what I meant.
@@bigredog100 Bet~
Boy like wat?
he played really bad this set for being a read heavy player all he had to do was hold shield when he had him above him or at the ledge and just upsmash out of shield on reaction
You go and beat elegant then since you have all the answers
Asante Daniels you can get mad at my response all you want but I’m a fan of light and this is was very unusual play from him
Who said anything about being mad
Luigi has always been a cursed matchup for Fox.
Dude its really hard for Fox,almost none of our combos work. Have any tips in this matchup?
Sebastián Alonso López Aldana just gotta be patient and realize you can’t go crazy with combos in this matchup. When juggling, know that Luigi will be looking to go for a frame 3 nair or a cyclone which is invincible on start up. Also don’t be afraid to camp with lasers. Luigi has trouble approaching so don’t make it easy for him to get near you.
Chris Conrad Light, tho hes WAY better than Elegant lost to him kinda hard. How tf do you expect any Fox to beat Luigi?
TQ BD the playstyle difference. Just cuz the best fox lost to Elegant doesn’t mean any other fox has no chance. Look at Marrs vs Paiserman. He’s clearly not the best Fox and yet he beat Marrs unlike Light. You can’t just say that the best player of “this character” lost doesn’t mean other players have no chance to win
Luigi: 😴
Fox: 🔥
Watching someone play fox is just as annoying as actually playing against one.
i dont know why but I enjoy see Light losing xD
Misfired once again.
Maestro limpio sucks Viva Elegant
Comentario #1000 alv
luigi gets rewarded way too much of a grab. one of the safest ranged grab mind you. really frustrating how easily he takes back the lead with ONE GRAB
really frustrating to not be able to recover as luigi too... there's a reason every top player puts him at mid tier or lower.
and in a game where most neutral is played in the air or by spacing, having a slow ranged grab isn't exactly something that's super broken, unless you're little mac
Luigi gets punished pretty hard if he misses a grab idk what you mean by safest ranged grab
is that you You used his recovery as a major reason as to why hes "mid tier or lower" while Fox is infamous to die every single time hes offstage but youd still put him top tier? Gtfo, casual. The reason Luigi is "not good" is because his insanely limited mobility. If they gave him just a little more aerial drift and accelaration speed hed instantly be god tier. If they gave him a good recovery literally nothing would change. Also, in this mu specifically Luigi was always able to recover because Fox literally cant edgue guard, doesnt that make him high tier according to your logic?
TQ BD actually no, but in this match up, he isn't as affected by his mobility as much as a more zoning character. if you're really arguing that luigis recovery doesn't hinder him, and also that it's better than fox's idk why you wasted your time commenting. a huge reason luigi is low on the tier list is bc of the matchup spread. zoners and camping characters destroy luigi bc of his limited mobility, and it makes neutral difficult against a lot of characters with spacing tools. fox isn't much of a zoner, and both play close ranged and so low air mobility doesn't play a huge role in the fight. if you'd like me to discuss every single pro and con of luigi and my explanation of why he's in the middle of mid tier on my tier list, read up on smashboards or join to luigicord, not a short comment about his grab on youtube, "casual". sincerely, luigi main Dad? (2004-2019)
@@lxvi2441 Kinda sad how you dont see how "not intelligent" you and your comments are. Saying that Luigis limited mobility doesnt matter against is a HUGE argument for my side. If Luigi had any mobility he would be broken. Against Fox that one thing they took away from Luigi (mobility) doesnt matter. Do you understand? Same with Chrom. "Chrom would be a top 5 character if he had a real recovery" Fox cannot exploit his recovery which means he is basically fighting a top 5 character. You low IQ individual. "zoners and camping characters destroy luigi bc of his limited mobility", ONCE AGAIN LITERALLY WHAT I SAID. If Luigi had any mobility hed insantly be top tier. All the follow ups hed get would be disgusting. His neutral would be way too good with his lagless zair and neutral b if he could drift around and spam his aerials that would lead into sick combos. Youre agreeing with me 24/7 but argue against me?? Fact is that Luigi wouldnt climb one bit with an actual recovery while giving him mobility would make him broken. Idfk what youre trying
Fox sucks
Lol who tf is lauren
elegant's gf
Yanny
Light got robbed.
Master Bronze Elite No. Just accept that he lost to a way more talented player.
Cringe just in a few secs
Down b is annoying
But for some reason light was either trying to parry or let go early. I figure it's the ladder. He deserved to lose.
But elegant is eliminated anyway.
Don't tell people that, it's a gigantic dick move.
Christopher Hammond their fault if they wanna look in the comments, anyone who’s ever watched a set on TH-cam knows there are spoilers everywhere at this point
The Church of “Ladder-day” Saints called.
Something about wanting their “ladder” back so they can reach as hard as this joke.
@@seansolo3583
Seriously? Anyone that wants to watch a game has an obligation not to look in the comments because they should know that people are dickheads?
Christopher Hammond I’m not saying that’s how it should be, I’m saying that’s how it is, and people know that. It’s pointless to try and stop it, and I think it’s naive to think otherwise. People will spoil, if you don’t want to be spoiled, stay out of the comments