This is the mature take on the situation. Because it reflects acceptance, and not blindly fighting anyone who critisizes us. This is a common problem that I see in India.
I would rather say it's a colonial mentality of indians who thinks if white christian missionaries/westerners criticize us then they must be right, this thought process is obnoxious & pernicious among indians, the issue with indians is that whatever westerners/west say against Indians, indians tend to blindly follow their claims to be right & have tendency to prove westerners that westerners are right to criticize india/indians
This might be very harsh but its very true that's most people only want to do opensource in India because of jobs and swags. But nobody wants to know the ground reality 😅😅
@@chaiaurcode exactly sir yeh bahut important chiz hai that we guide people in the correct direction aur sabko bas contributor bano job lo wala mentality se bahar nikale.🙂🙂
you are on spot bro! Thing is students do this for job and to boost their profile, I guess root cause at some level is the fucked up hiring process and weird expectations that fresher should have 10 years of experience, and this cusvle continues
Hi , Hitesh i was following your course for backend for exress . I learned a lot by coding along with your tutorial. And then i went ahead and deployed with server less functions. So i just wanted to say there are still a lot of people who are working silent and building roads for future. Our journey may not have a good beginning but its definitely going to be a good one.
I AM AN INDIAN AND YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. I did the same thing. I was building my own product where i used one open source library. I felt a need to have some features in library and then started to contribute. I have also started live coding streams where I work on developing different things live. Currently I have started with same open source project i am talking about. Afterwards I am planning to develop video streaming backends and much more.
What tech stack you are going to use for backend ? gRPC ? tRPC ? anything fancy ? if so please drop the repo link here. I wont be raising any PRs : ) Thanks!
Harkirat discouraged his community to not make useless contributions. Actually walked through the codebase and showed what being useful to organization is. The problem is the scarcity in our community and lack of ethics.
Thanks Hitesh bhai for highlighting and addressing it to us. You are a true contributor and indeed a valuable creator on this platform. Please keep it up.
Sir can you make one video on that every one should not go in IT (coding ) caus like i have seen a lot of students in my school who have taken IT as a stream and litterly have noo intrust and every one is goin in this rat race for money and fame job and with the upcoming of AI coding jobs wont just be a job you also need a true software enginear mantality and intrest plzz address this topic other wise india would be know for the most unimployed software enginears who cant even be called one because of low skill true intrust and passion @@chaiaurcode
Sir i bought Full Stack web development-1.0 course of PW because of you. now that course is finished and I just realized that ki apne jitna pw me padhaya hai usse jyada aur valuable content to aapne apne youtube channels par upload kiya hua hai :)
Let me tell you the problem with Indian software engineering scene 1. Aspirants with 400+ leetcode question solver tag under their name, who are absolute zero when it comes to creativity and projects. 2. Aspirants who do all kinds of projects they find on the internet. Their projects have a 5 second load time, with each and every node plugin you can imagine. They Have no knowledge of how these technologies are built, no knowledge of language internals. 3. Ones that learn all kinds of front end technology that are trendy with no sense of direction. 4. Institutes like scaler, coding ninja. Which charge laksha laksha for the mediocrity they strive for. 5. Service based companies. Etc etc... Mediocrity is the root of all problems.
You don't even know how true that is :) I've seen people which are literal MASTERS in LeetCode... And don't even know that 0.1+0.2 is not a JS problem... Everything has to be JEE/UPSC for them...
Totally agreed🙌. It takes time to understand a code base and contribute. People contribute without even trying to understand the codebase. Understanding the codebase is the first step in open source, not contributing or raising issues or PR
I agree. While doing freelancing I have seen on so many freelancing platforms where clients don't want to hire anyone from India. We are getting a bad reputation for providing bad quality of work. Now we are getting a bad name in the open-source community and this needs to stop.
yes true sir , skills knowledge ya like dbms , operating system , dsa , full stack skills hogi yha sab alg na h sab part h ek application k software k ek real life problem k solu k part h ................................jabtk yha mind set n hoga india k jab tak situation will remains same...............not a journey of job , money and all , its a jouerny of to serve something better.............im new in that filed sir and learning from last 3 month and regularly follow you + always remember your insights of your .........and your seassion is like a life lession of this tech world for me thnks you sirr.........jai shree shyam
Sir can you make one video on that every one should not go in IT (coding ) caus like i have seen a lot of students in my school who have taken IT as a stream and litterly have noo intrust and every one is goin in this rat race for money and fame job and with the upcoming of AI coding jobs wont just be a job you also need a true software enginear mantality and intrest plzz address this topic other wise india would be know for the most unimployed software enginears who cant even be called one because of low skill true intrust and passion @@chaiaurcode
Absolutely right, sir. That's why I became a creator instead of a contributor for one of my npm packages for the React Native community. There is a task involving fetching device location in the background, and there's a paid npm package available for it. I'm creating the same functionality as open source - I've completed it for the iOS platform, and the Android part is pending. Currently i only know the React Native and Swift iOS part that’s why i easily created npm package for ios with react native i will also done this for android platform after learn the android development.
Sahi kaha aapne. Contribution ka kaam banta hai Issues ko fix karna sahi tareeke se. Aisa nahi ki Readme file pe steps likhna ya details ko difference dikhana ==> Coders ka kaam toh bas build, test n deploy n maintain pe har waqt rehna chaiye. Rather not to be on recognition, prizes, or being 1st todo etc etc as it leads to half way job and that is not required nor the ask. Aapne achha baat share kiya 👍🏻
@ChaiAurCode, thanks for highlighting this issue. I know people who do this and this is a sad reality being promoted. Gonna share this video with everyone, hope everyone gets a reality check and this stops asap. Thanks again for bringing amazing content, raising the bar for youtube learning content! Regards, Kt.
Couldnt agree more. This is true, lot of people from India are doing this because some influencers are promoting this. They literally say just do it, with simple document edits. But they don't teach that you need to be consistent on working with handful of projects only. Or simply start you own project.
Thankfully I had this feeling ki tutorials aren't enough. I have to try building something myself regardless of errors I would produce in the initial stage. But that's how we learn.
Companies hire candidates based on Communication Skills, Analytical Skills and Coding Skills and Industry Knowledge if going for senior level. But most TH-camrs are promoting only coding, Programming language, library and showing ctc packages etc. Reality is if you want to involve yourself as an excellent candidate you need to master all those skill I mentioned in first line.
i was expecting this topic in cutting chai section becuse evryone talking about how to contribute in open src fast not about importance of open src its sad to say but people are careing only about package and job its not bad but people also shouldn't forgot About its importance also very few people talk honestly about industry stand point thank u sir for guiding us in correct direction
Thanks Hitesh Sir, Because of this i created my own Opensource project, and i am truly enjoying it. It made me focus on core things of software building components.
Same with competitive coding 😅 everyone is just completing milestone by following some bhaiya didi sheet but no-one is focusing on problem solving skills.😢
Hmm, all youtubers have to talk about this, who teaches or ever talked about open source. I think we Indians have a great potential to take the problems as a challenge. You guys have a great platform to convey the your guidance. Thanks for your guidance, We hope other creators will also talk about this.
Yeah toh sch baat hai Sir, Open Source bss apni profile behtr krne k liye yaa fir keh lo ki job k liye kr rhe hai. Asal me open source me contribute krna toh hum chahte he nhi. Personally Thankyou Sir.
That's why @Hitesh Sir is Great❤ Initially Raised this issue on TH-cam is the big thing.... Hope those people will understand who are contributing by for such cheaper reason and saying that I have raised so many PRs and they get merged also😂😂... Thank You for saving real opensource community😊❤ Thank you for making such a informative videos. Meanwhile Other TH-camrs - Only Course Selling and Promotion of Course will be the topic remains for them😢😢
I've been watching your videos for a long time, even before this "rat race" of getting coding jobs began. My respect for you went above the roof after watching this video! Thank you for raising awareness!
Your quality of content is just getting better and thank you for addressing these issues. These days everybody is going after open source just for the sake of title not for experience and learning which is very sad to see. I hope you addressing this issue would make people realise that rather than jumping to open source, learn about it properly have patience and then contribute a meaningful PR
2:55 Very well said, Population, Saturation, Everyone wants to get in it tech only are just victim cards pulled here. These are the same people who proudly joke about lying in their resumes and getting a job. I had been feeling down because of not being able to contribute to open source because the projects I'm interested in are far too complex for my skills atm. I don't want to be labelled with these guys with I finally make my first PR. There needs to be a shift in the community where we ignore the words of people who don't understand about this field, because ultimately these things happen becuase everyone thinks others only care about your job and that's what everyone will ask. Just Focus on your improvement & stopping littering in the community
Im a manager and this is not new. Back in 2013 I was in UK and working for a major retailer. Most Indian IT guys used to commit absolute BS with no version control which just made managing it all a big problem. And when I came back to India, I was in one of the Big 4 and they had put a email saying free tshirts and merchandise like mugs etc. I havent seen more embarrassing visual. People in the office were taking 10s of Tshirts and as many mugs as possible. Behaving like refugees waiting for food. Look at the behaviour of our people when they go for client parties. They drink as if no tomorrow, get drunk, behave like absolute aholes in front of the client. We need more soft skill training from childhood. We still throw garbage on the side of the road, no civic sense and that translates in the work place as well.
Office workplaces in india are total bs. People hate each other. My friend got bullied from hr and his colleagues just because he stammers. He got so much mocked that he literally cried 😢 while speaking with me. At last he resigned. At first he couldn't due to financial problems. And it's not with one there are many other friends of mine who reported how toxic work culture is. One of the hr told my other friend that he was lucky that they hired him from a 3rd tier college 😢 else he would be jobless. Total bs. Now they are working hard to get in foreign companies outside india i respect their decision and also i am with them.
I am an Indian. And there is no shame in accepting that many(if not all) of the Indian programmers are just wannabes. They don't have a real interest in computer science or programming in general. But still they choose it as a career as "IT is the future". You see, Indian youtubers are teaching programming to the whole world, still we don't have reasonable number of cool awesome open source projects, great research papers etc. Why is that? Just go to a top tier college, you will see that the students don't know the real world significance of any of the concepts taught to them, but hey, they know 10 different types of sorting algorithms and the difference between them.
Parents are to be blamed as well, they force their children to take admission in Engineering without even knowing what it is and then the kid finds himself in a pool of problems holding on to any thing that will help him get out of the miserable life and in this process a developer is created who just has the tag of a developer but nothing valuable to add to the real world.
Thanks Hitesh Bhai for highlighting this. Everyone is doing this to get the Job. I remember in 2017, we were using ng-smart-table for one of out the project. We added lot of tweaks in that npm package but never even raised single PR because time constraint. It was the time when managers keep asking "UAT pe deploy kiya kya?" :D
I'm Software Engineer since last 6 years and I only happen to contribute open source once or twice as a side help since I was using those libraries and found a bug. The example you said is correct, nowadays some tech channels are highly promoting open source contribution rather than conveying the purpose of open source in the first place?
Definitely agree with the point you have presented and about the spirit of Open-Source. Would love to hear more from you on Open-Source project creation rather than contribution and any interesting stories related to it.
00:03 Open source community deterioration 01:36 Accepting and addressing problems openly 03:10 Avoid taking the easy way to open source contribution 04:32 How the bug was fixed and the pull request was made 05:46 Importance of learning before contributing to open source 07:28 Open source community has been negatively impacted by the pursuit of personal gains. 08:50 Contribution in open source projects 10:03 Focus on making good projects and contributions to the community.
Yup this is true, everyone want to show that I have contributed in the opensource unless they don't know how to create any single feature in the project. And the main reason is that some creator are creating hype for the opensource.
Very important issue that you have discussed here. Kudos. Most of the youtubers/influencers are only sharing or promoting some thing in order to get more views. Students get misled and that is why there are so many meaningless contributions.
It's definitely not their mistake, some indians lack social awareness, they tend to do some awkward shit at places where they are not supposed to interfere in the first place. No indian youtuber has ever recommended people to fix typos or beg maintainers to merge their PR in an OS, it's just that some of us lack the common sense to realize that fixing typos doesn't secure them a 2-3 crore package.
yes this is a problem, as a open source contributor, but i migrated from Js to Ts in zerodha that i see a genuine contribution, creating open source is better than contributing to show off recuriters
I just finished the basics of the MERN stack, and I was going to contribute to the "so-called" open source you talked about. But you've opened my eyes, and now I think I have to learn more before starting to contribute to the real thing. Thank you, sir.
Sir, before watching your videos I was solely focusing on placement packages that I just have to get package with bare minimum knowledge. But after watching your videos I have come to know the essence of computer science itself . I have started to enjoy college subjects as well because I have started to see them from a point of knowledge and not a point of just passing or for attendance and today, this open source video opened my eyes once again. I haven’t seen any other youtuber who is talking about India at a community level. You are teaching software engineering in it’s essence not just a mere language.
Finally someone who's really experienced, professionally follows ethical workflows and has a great respect among youngsters is talking it to restore the image and situation ThankYou so much Hitesh sirji 🙏♥️♥️. Unlike any other flashy "Remote job 5 Cr. 10 Cr. 0-infinity Cohort" or GSOC startegy or "Only way to get hired in 2024 video" Your video is actually an eye opener
When will we people learn to just be humble and accept. It took a long time for me to understand this that it's okay to say, l don't know and learn about about it. Than to lie and fake it. Hope the new generation learn it before it's too late
thanks a lot, sir, I am a fresher right now and I was worried that everyone is promoting open source I was feeling bad for myself as I am not doing anything on open source because I think I'm just a beginner right now and I need to learn first but after watching this video now i can focus more on improving my skills rather than running in a rat race ❤❤❤❤
Iss situation ke liye bohot had tak hamare Indian TH-camrs bhi responsible hai. India me freshers ko job milan bohot hi mushkil hai or issi situation ko youtubers ne bohot exploit kiya hai. Jaha dekho waha ya to DS Algo ke courses hai ye phir kisne kitne ka pakage crack kiya hai bus yahi bate chalti hai hamari youtube community me. Indians programming ko enjoy nahi karte. Ye bus sab ke liye ye ek job pane ka medium hai. Sabne milkar Open Source ko bas job or freelancing tak restrict kar diya hai. or agar yahi hal raha to wo din dur nahi jab opensource communities Indians ko permanently BAN kardengi.
Thanks a lot sir for highlighting this issue and guiding us the right way. It saved me from falling in this trap. It would be great and helpful for many students if you also make a video on doing so called internships and FAANG internship+course for some amount by some companies.😂
"Why we see our population as a disadvantage? It could an advantage too." Couldn't have said it better! I wish people watching this video will get into this mindset.
We should create our own swag open source company. I noted it down. This is not a very big problem to handle. We just need to educate people in a more stream lined way. I hate people are trying make money without acknowledging their mistake. Hitesh, I am already putted some idea to create some open source project. Hope to tag you soon in a official post.
Ok, so I had one project on which I worked for some time. Basically it is a shadcn-ui inspired react native component library. I have created 5-6 components and looking forward to make more. But I believe making it open will help in increasing the speed of development. I am naming the library as vaib/rnui
Assalam walaikum sir Most love from Pakistan Sir kindly node js par sir playlist banai plz. Ap ki JavaScript ki playlist bohat achi thi sir plz node js par banai playlist.
Influencers are to be blamed for a lot of this. We are always looking for a grand fix to all of our problems and announcing it on social media and every other flocks to it. It even hurts skilled developers who might not get a chance to showcase their skills. We need to build more.
I am an old timer in open source(in fact Linux developer and USB device driver) , Recently I got back on the saddle again because some people invited me to blockchain. Now I can understand why it looks like a nightmare today. In fact we never joined for money. The basic idea was to learn and have fun.
Hey Hitesh, You are absolutely correct, I think you should make more videos on this topic. Learning a course is easy but raising and making a society is very tough to achieve.. any ways great.. Well I am also a learner… 7:24
sir, mughe thora dhakka lga. mein kal hi 2 pr raise kari thi grammar ki😅. but mein abhi pakke se code contribution karunga. Mein abhi plone org. ko sikh rha hun. mein bhi chahta hun ki indians open source mein sahi tarike se aage bare. thanks for this video
So people start preparing for govt exams don't matter in which background you are in. Every job other than govt job is not stable and you have to tolarate immense pressure to do that job so preparing for govt job way more easy. After you getting any gov job you can start preparing for upsc and if your luck good then you will become ips or ias and after that you life will be settled. You don't have to fear about anything and do whatever thing you want to do!!!
thank god someone is talking about it...I was thinking about this alot...here everyone just marks a point and run towards it like a rat until n unless they're kicked out of it...I don't want to name but many bhaiyaas and didis have said this "readme file edit krke contribution lejao", that is just wromg...No wonder we're not able to create something of our own. Thankyou sir for raising this issue🙏
This is the mature take on the situation. Because it reflects acceptance, and not blindly fighting anyone who critisizes us. This is a common problem that I see in India.
I would rather say it's a colonial mentality of indians who thinks if white christian missionaries/westerners criticize us then they must be right, this thought process is obnoxious & pernicious among indians, the issue with indians is that whatever westerners/west say against Indians, indians tend to blindly follow their claims to be right & have tendency to prove westerners that westerners are right to criticize india/indians
This might be very harsh but its very true that's most people only want to do opensource in India because of jobs and swags. But nobody wants to know the ground reality 😅😅
Situtation bht kharab h. Yaha youtubers ka kaam h cheze fix krna, na ki bs Open source ke naam pe views n attention lena
@@chaiaurcode exactly sir yeh bahut important chiz hai that we guide people in the correct direction aur sabko bas contributor bano job lo wala mentality se bahar nikale.🙂🙂
@@chaiaurcode Yes sir, It's true. People don't know about open source.
But they just change markdown file.
you are on spot bro! Thing is students do this for job and to boost their profile, I guess root cause at some level is the fucked up hiring process and weird expectations that fresher should have 10 years of experience, and this cusvle continues
Bhai repeat kyu krra kuch alag input de
Hi , Hitesh i was following your course for backend for exress . I learned a lot by coding along with your tutorial. And then i went ahead and deployed with server less functions. So i just wanted to say there are still a lot of people who are working silent and building roads for future. Our journey may not have a good beginning but its definitely going to be a good one.
Glad to hear that
More power to you friend 🙌🏻
I AM AN INDIAN AND YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. I did the same thing. I was building my own product where i used one open source library. I felt a need to have some features in library and then started to contribute.
I have also started live coding streams where I work on developing different things live. Currently I have started with same open source project i am talking about. Afterwards I am planning to develop video streaming backends and much more.
+1
What tech stack you are going to use for backend ?
gRPC ? tRPC ? anything fancy ?
if so please drop the repo link here. I wont be raising any PRs : )
Thanks!
Harkirat discouraged his community to not make useless contributions. Actually walked through the codebase and showed what being useful to organization is. The problem is the scarcity in our community and lack of ethics.
Absolutely, Harkirat is an experienced dude. He will never do it. Problem is with those folks who are misinterpreting it, taking shortcuts.
He himself would have behaved like this in the beginning when he would have started open-source contribution for the first time.
@@yumyumpork-dx1pb not everyone is corrupt.
@@kusali11 isn't it a bit dramatic to call naive misguided students corrupt for doing what the herd is telling them they need to do.
@@takeuchi5760 everyone has agency, there is no excuse.
Thanks Hitesh bhai for highlighting and addressing it to us. You are a true contributor and indeed a valuable creator on this platform.
Please keep it up.
Thanks a ton
Sir can you make one video on that every one should not go in IT (coding ) caus like i have seen a lot of students in my school who have taken IT as a stream and litterly have noo intrust and every one is goin in this rat race for money and fame job and with the upcoming of AI coding jobs wont just be a job you also need a true software enginear mantality and intrest plzz address this topic other wise india would be know for the most unimployed software enginears who cant even be called one because of low skill true intrust and passion @@chaiaurcode
Finally Someone is talking about it. Thankyou Hitesh Sir ♥️
finally someone noticed...otherwise all youtubers are busy in making fancy thunmbnails..thnku
Welcome 😊
@@chaiaurcode kunal kushwaha karke ek youtuber hay ye sab dhong use ka natija hay
@@saptathirtachoudhury4158 nahi bhai usne ye warning pehle he de de thi ke indian open source ka band baja denge
Sir i bought Full Stack web development-1.0 course of PW because of you. now that course is finished and I just realized that ki apne jitna pw me padhaya hai usse jyada aur valuable content to aapne apne youtube channels par upload kiya hua hai :)
Let me tell you the problem with Indian software engineering scene
1. Aspirants with 400+ leetcode question solver tag under their name, who are absolute zero when it comes to creativity and projects.
2. Aspirants who do all kinds of projects they find on the internet. Their projects have a 5 second load time, with each and every node plugin you can imagine. They Have no knowledge of how these technologies are built, no knowledge of language internals.
3. Ones that learn all kinds of front end technology that are trendy with no sense of direction.
4. Institutes like scaler, coding ninja. Which charge laksha laksha for the mediocrity they strive for.
5. Service based companies.
Etc etc...
Mediocrity is the root of all problems.
You don't even know how true that is :)
I've seen people which are literal MASTERS in LeetCode... And don't even know that 0.1+0.2 is not a JS problem...
Everything has to be JEE/UPSC for them...
They think solving 500+ leetcode problems and learning mern stack makes them a great software engineer....
I’m working in an open source organisation and it’s very embarrassing when I see spam PRs coming from India 😢😢
Sorry sir they don't value free software ( free as code not price..)
Totally agreed🙌. It takes time to understand a code base and contribute. People contribute without even trying to understand the codebase. Understanding the codebase is the first step in open source, not contributing or raising issues or PR
I agree. While doing freelancing I have seen on so many freelancing platforms where clients don't want to hire anyone from India. We are getting a bad reputation for providing bad quality of work. Now we are getting a bad name in the open-source community and this needs to stop.
We need to guide better to upcoming software engineers.
yes true sir , skills knowledge ya like dbms , operating system , dsa , full stack skills hogi yha sab alg na h sab part h ek application k software k ek real life problem k solu k part h ................................jabtk yha mind set n hoga india k jab tak situation will remains same...............not a journey of job , money and all , its a jouerny of to serve something better.............im new in that filed sir and learning from last 3 month and regularly follow you + always remember your insights of your .........and your seassion is like a life lession of this tech world for me thnks you sirr.........jai shree shyam
Agar ye ese hi chalta raha to open source contribution becomes next version of competitive programming 😅
Competitive Programming nahi Competitive Editing 🤣🤣🤣🤣
These open source guys are the people who ran away from competitive programming, they can't handle open source, how can they even do cp
@@Bharat_Ridernot everyone
Thanks for being so bold about this issue.
Maybe it was harsh but you said the truth. Appreciate it. That'd why you are my ideal in programming.
We need more mentors like this!
Sorry If I'm being brutally honest.
👍
A huge thanks for addressing this issue❤
People should contribute to OSS to give back to the community
Absolutely!
I appriciate, that hurts, if some one says that type of words for us, we have to improve too much, i fully support this video.
Grateful work sir #quality content 💯
Much appreciated
Thank you Hitesh sir for bringing dedicated video on this issue. hopefully dusre tech influencers bhi iss issue ko highlight kare.
Krna hi chahiye, problem to h ye. Open source creator bno, kya hi sab contribution me lage pde h, vo b fake contribution
Sir can you make one video on that every one should not go in IT (coding ) caus like i have seen a lot of students in my school who have taken IT as a stream and litterly have noo intrust and every one is goin in this rat race for money and fame job and with the upcoming of AI coding jobs wont just be a job you also need a true software enginear mantality and intrest plzz address this topic other wise india would be know for the most unimployed software enginears who cant even be called one because of low skill true intrust and passion @@chaiaurcode
This video is so relevant now because of what's happening with Express repo
Absolutely right, sir. That's why I became a creator instead of a contributor for one of my npm packages for the React Native community. There is a task involving fetching device location in the background, and there's a paid npm package available for it. I'm creating the same functionality as open source - I've completed it for the iOS platform, and the Android part is pending. Currently i only know the React Native and Swift iOS part that’s why i easily created npm package for ios with react native i will also done this for android platform after learn the android development.
He is the senior we all need, thank you sir ji for taking the responsibility to guide us on this issue 🙏.
Sahi kaha aapne. Contribution ka kaam banta hai Issues ko fix karna sahi tareeke se. Aisa nahi ki Readme file pe steps likhna ya details ko difference dikhana ==> Coders ka kaam toh bas build, test n deploy n maintain pe har waqt rehna chaiye. Rather not to be on recognition, prizes, or being 1st todo etc etc as it leads to half way job and that is not required nor the ask. Aapne achha baat share kiya 👍🏻
@ChaiAurCode, thanks for highlighting this issue. I know people who do this and this is a sad reality being promoted. Gonna share this video with everyone, hope everyone gets a reality check and this stops asap. Thanks again for bringing amazing content, raising the bar for youtube learning content! Regards, Kt.
Thanks for saying this loud and clear. It high time.
Couldnt agree more. This is true, lot of people from India are doing this because some influencers are promoting this. They literally say just do it, with simple document edits. But they don't teach that you need to be consistent on working with handful of projects only. Or simply start you own project.
Thankfully I had this feeling ki tutorials aren't enough. I have to try building something myself regardless of errors I would produce in the initial stage. But that's how we learn.
Companies hire candidates based on Communication Skills, Analytical Skills and Coding Skills and Industry Knowledge if going for senior level. But most TH-camrs are promoting only coding, Programming language, library and showing ctc packages etc.
Reality is if you want to involve yourself as an excellent candidate you need to master all those skill I mentioned in first line.
i was expecting this topic in cutting chai section becuse evryone talking about how to contribute in open src fast not about importance of open src
its sad to say but
people are careing only about package and job its not bad but people also shouldn't forgot About its importance
also
very few people talk honestly about industry stand point
thank u sir for guiding us in correct direction
Thanks Hitesh Sir, Because of this i created my own Opensource project, and i am truly enjoying it.
It made me focus on core things of software building components.
Same with competitive coding 😅 everyone is just completing milestone by following some bhaiya didi sheet but no-one is focusing on problem solving skills.😢
True now making open source contribution feels like preparing for competitive exam.
Yes, exactly
Everything is becoming like UPSC nowadays
Hmm, all youtubers have to talk about this, who teaches or ever talked about open source. I think we Indians have a great potential to take the problems as a challenge. You guys have a great platform to convey the your guidance. Thanks for your guidance, We hope other creators will also talk about this.
Yeah toh sch baat hai Sir, Open Source bss apni profile behtr krne k liye yaa fir keh lo ki job k liye kr rhe hai. Asal me open source me contribute krna toh hum chahte he nhi.
Personally Thankyou Sir.
Bahot acha video kiya sir... Thank you...
That's why @Hitesh Sir is Great❤
Initially Raised this issue on TH-cam is the big thing....
Hope those people will understand who are contributing by for such cheaper reason and saying that I have raised so many PRs and they get merged also😂😂...
Thank You for saving real opensource community😊❤
Thank you for making such a informative videos.
Meanwhile Other TH-camrs - Only Course Selling and Promotion of Course will be the topic remains for them😢😢
I've been watching your videos for a long time, even before this "rat race" of getting coding jobs began. My respect for you went above the roof after watching this video! Thank you for raising awareness!
थैंक्स सर काम से काम आपने सभी ऐसे फ़र्ज़ी कंट्रीब्युटर्स को आइना को दिखाया| कही न कही ये सबकी गलती है और इससे ठीक भी करना ही होगा|
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Sir much respect for you. Only you are showing the reality
Your quality of content is just getting better and thank you for addressing these issues. These days everybody is going after open source just for the sake of title not for experience and learning which is very sad to see. I hope you addressing this issue would make people realise that rather than jumping to open source, learn about it properly have patience and then contribute a meaningful PR
2:55 Very well said, Population, Saturation, Everyone wants to get in it tech only are just victim cards pulled here. These are the same people who proudly joke about lying in their resumes and getting a job. I had been feeling down because of not being able to contribute to open source because the projects I'm interested in are far too complex for my skills atm. I don't want to be labelled with these guys with I finally make my first PR. There needs to be a shift in the community where we ignore the words of people who don't understand about this field, because ultimately these things happen becuase everyone thinks others only care about your job and that's what everyone will ask. Just Focus on your improvement & stopping littering in the community
Im a manager and this is not new. Back in 2013 I was in UK and working for a major retailer. Most Indian IT guys used to commit absolute BS with no version control which just made managing it all a big problem. And when I came back to India, I was in one of the Big 4 and they had put a email saying free tshirts and merchandise like mugs etc. I havent seen more embarrassing visual. People in the office were taking 10s of Tshirts and as many mugs as possible. Behaving like refugees waiting for food. Look at the behaviour of our people when they go for client parties. They drink as if no tomorrow, get drunk, behave like absolute aholes in front of the client.
We need more soft skill training from childhood. We still throw garbage on the side of the road, no civic sense and that translates in the work place as well.
Office workplaces in india are total bs. People hate each other. My friend got bullied from hr and his colleagues just because he stammers. He got so much mocked that he literally cried 😢 while speaking with me. At last he resigned. At first he couldn't due to financial problems. And it's not with one there are many other friends of mine who reported how toxic work culture is. One of the hr told my other friend that he was lucky that they hired him from a 3rd tier college 😢 else he would be jobless. Total bs. Now they are working hard to get in foreign companies outside india i respect their decision and also i am with them.
I am an Indian. And there is no shame in accepting that many(if not all) of the Indian programmers are just wannabes. They don't have a real interest in computer science or programming in general. But still they choose it as a career as "IT is the future". You see, Indian youtubers are teaching programming to the whole world, still we don't have reasonable number of cool awesome open source projects, great research papers etc. Why is that?
Just go to a top tier college, you will see that the students don't know the real world significance of any of the concepts taught to them, but hey, they know 10 different types of sorting algorithms and the difference between them.
Parents are to be blamed as well, they force their children to take admission in Engineering without even knowing what it is and then the kid finds himself in a pool of problems holding on to any thing that will help him get out of the miserable life and in this process a developer is created who just has the tag of a developer but nothing valuable to add to the real world.
Thanks for speaking this out.
This eye opener was crucial for new folks who were just trying to introduce themselves to projects which they may not understand in the first place.
And this is called Quality content with actual facts. Cheers 🥂
When truth hurts, its really a truth. good take on this situation.
It's very TRUE sir some influencers say I started with typo fixes then did major so others are inspired
Thanks Hitesh Bhai for highlighting this. Everyone is doing this to get the Job. I remember in 2017, we were using ng-smart-table for one of out the project. We added lot of tweaks in that npm package but never even raised single PR because time constraint.
It was the time when managers keep asking "UAT pe deploy kiya kya?" :D
What an amazing perspective on the matter! Truly appreciate the vid.
I'm Software Engineer since last 6 years and I only happen to contribute open source once or twice as a side help since I was using those libraries and found a bug. The example you said is correct, nowadays some tech channels are highly promoting open source contribution rather than conveying the purpose of open source in the first place?
Definitely agree with the point you have presented and about the spirit of Open-Source.
Would love to hear more from you on Open-Source project creation rather than contribution and any interesting stories related to it.
00:03 Open source community deterioration
01:36 Accepting and addressing problems openly
03:10 Avoid taking the easy way to open source contribution
04:32 How the bug was fixed and the pull request was made
05:46 Importance of learning before contributing to open source
07:28 Open source community has been negatively impacted by the pursuit of personal gains.
08:50 Contribution in open source projects
10:03 Focus on making good projects and contributions to the community.
bro literally contributed in youtube video 💀
@@AbhishekV-m8i game is game 🗿😂
Very nice documentation. I would consider this a valuable OS Contribution.
Yup this is true, everyone want to show that I have contributed in the opensource unless they don't know how to create any single feature in the project.
And the main reason is that some creator are creating hype for the opensource.
To be honest... Getting prs accepted in this scenario is a real flex and swag itself
Seriously accepting own faults are better than fighting for selfdefence
Very important issue that you have discussed here. Kudos. Most of the youtubers/influencers are only sharing or promoting some thing in order to get more views. Students get misled and that is why there are so many meaningless contributions.
thank you , there are few "1-2cr/package" wala youtuber who are promoting open source as if it is easy like making chai
It's definitely not their mistake, some indians lack social awareness, they tend to do some awkward shit at places where they are not supposed to interfere in the first place. No indian youtuber has ever recommended people to fix typos or beg maintainers to merge their PR in an OS, it's just that some of us lack the common sense to realize that fixing typos doesn't secure them a 2-3 crore package.
yes this is a problem, as a open source contributor, but i migrated from Js to Ts in zerodha that i see a genuine contribution, creating open source is better than contributing to show off recuriters
I just finished the basics of the MERN stack, and I was going to contribute to the "so-called" open source you talked about. But you've opened my eyes, and now I think I have to learn more before starting to contribute to the real thing.
Thank you, sir.
where did you learn it from boss? care to guide?
@@TheCosmopolitanHefty just some free courses on TH-cam and their official documentation.
@@mikail_dev Alright bruh. Dhanyawad
@@mikail_devbrother can you share yt link for it please 🙏
@@Bhuvan.Shetty Actually I am from Bangladesh. and the tutorial series is Bengali as well.
i like the way u opened up , and accepted the problem
It's Very true sir ! you were doin Great I appreciate your exposure for open sources community 💬
Your speech is so good and clean that i never get distracted
Finally hitesh ji talked about it that useless entighteled so callled prgrammer using only libraries and changing readme
Sir, before watching your videos I was solely focusing on placement packages that I just have to get package with bare minimum knowledge. But after watching your videos I have come to know the essence of computer science itself . I have started to enjoy college subjects as well because I have started to see them from a point of knowledge and not a point of just passing or for attendance and today, this open source video opened my eyes once again. I haven’t seen any other youtuber who is talking about India at a community level. You are teaching software engineering in it’s essence not just a mere language.
Thank you for raising concerns regarding this topic. Also, thank you for being a great influencer on current/future programmers.
Absolutely agree!
Finally someone who's really experienced, professionally follows ethical workflows and has a great respect among youngsters is talking it to restore the image and situation ThankYou so much Hitesh sirji 🙏♥️♥️.
Unlike any other flashy "Remote job 5 Cr. 10 Cr. 0-infinity Cohort" or GSOC startegy or "Only way to get hired in 2024 video"
Your video is actually an eye opener
Bodied Harkirat Singh
@@helloworld2054 bhai actual reality hai, these guys are misleading alot
A very good point that should be discussed among developers and students.
When will we people learn to just be humble and accept.
It took a long time for me to understand this that it's okay to say, l don't know and learn about about it. Than to lie and fake it. Hope the new generation learn it before it's too late
thanks a lot, sir, I am a fresher right now and I was worried that everyone is promoting open source I was feeling bad for myself as I am not doing anything on open source because I think I'm just a beginner right now and I need to learn first but after watching this video now i can focus more on improving my skills rather than running in a rat race ❤❤❤❤
Iss situation ke liye bohot had tak hamare Indian TH-camrs bhi responsible hai. India me freshers ko job milan bohot hi mushkil hai or issi situation ko youtubers ne bohot exploit kiya hai. Jaha dekho waha ya to DS Algo ke courses hai ye phir kisne kitne ka pakage crack kiya hai bus yahi bate chalti hai hamari youtube community me. Indians programming ko enjoy nahi karte. Ye bus sab ke liye ye ek job pane ka medium hai. Sabne milkar Open Source ko bas job or freelancing tak restrict kar diya hai. or agar yahi hal raha to wo din dur nahi jab opensource communities Indians ko permanently BAN kardengi.
Yeah, This is true even in events everyone is attending for the t shirt rather than Networking and discuss 😅
Thanks a lot sir for highlighting this issue and guiding us the right way. It saved me from falling in this trap. It would be great and helpful for many students if you also make a video on doing so called internships and FAANG internship+course for some amount by some companies.😂
"Why we see our population as a disadvantage? It could an advantage too." Couldn't have said it better! I wish people watching this video will get into this mindset.
Thank you sir for awareness on this topic.
We should create our own swag open source company. I noted it down. This is not a very big problem to handle. We just need to educate people in a more stream lined way. I hate people are trying make money without acknowledging their mistake.
Hitesh, I am already putted some idea to create some open source project. Hope to tag you soon in a official post.
Ok, so I had one project on which I worked for some time. Basically it is a shadcn-ui inspired react native component library. I have created 5-6 components and looking forward to make more. But I believe making it open will help in increasing the speed of development. I am naming the library as vaib/rnui
Harkirat meanwhile trying to save face. That guy has single handedly ruined the entire indian OSS community.
I absolutely agree with you sir.
Assalam walaikum sir
Most love from Pakistan
Sir kindly node js par sir playlist banai plz.
Ap ki JavaScript ki playlist bohat achi thi sir plz node js par banai playlist.
3:00 True sir 💯
Influencers are to be blamed for a lot of this. We are always looking for a grand fix to all of our problems and announcing it on social media and every other flocks to it.
It even hurts skilled developers who might not get a chance to showcase their skills. We need to build more.
I am an old timer in open source(in fact Linux developer and USB device driver) , Recently I got back on the saddle again because some people invited me to blockchain. Now I can understand why it looks like a nightmare today. In fact we never joined for money. The basic idea was to learn and have fun.
Once again thank you sir for helping in building the right mindset.
Hey Hitesh, You are absolutely correct, I think you should make more videos on this topic. Learning a course is easy but raising and making a society is very tough to achieve.. any ways great.. Well I am also a learner… 7:24
Dil ki baat keh di bhaii aapne love you so much
sir, mughe thora dhakka lga. mein kal hi 2 pr raise kari thi grammar ki😅. but mein abhi pakke se code contribution karunga. Mein abhi plone org. ko sikh rha hun. mein bhi chahta hun ki indians open source mein sahi tarike se aage bare. thanks for this video
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you are ABSOLUTELY RIGHT!!!
hitesh bhai my respect for you has risin beyond any limits, keep up the good work bhai, god bless you man
So people start preparing for govt exams don't matter in which background you are in. Every job other than govt job is not stable and you have to tolarate immense pressure to do that job so preparing for govt job way more easy. After you getting any gov job you can start preparing for upsc and if your luck good then you will become ips or ias and after that you life will be settled. You don't have to fear about anything and do whatever thing you want to do!!!
The Real truth. Great video sir, Without thinking of views You really thinks for coding community .
I believe there should be more videos as well. Great share @Hitesh.
Beautifully explained! Completely agree with you bro
thank god someone is talking about it...I was thinking about this alot...here everyone just marks a point and run towards it like a rat until n unless they're kicked out of it...I don't want to name but many bhaiyaas and didis have said this "readme file edit krke contribution lejao", that is just wromg...No wonder we're not able to create something of our own. Thankyou sir for raising this issue🙏
Thak You hitesh sir this is the sad reality everyone is learning html ,css , js and just going for open source its not good first learn than earn ✨
I am really appreciate with your work sir thank you so much for guidance and I believe that you can change future of indian coders