My general approach to modulation for bass is phaser clean or into drive to use for subtle movement and color, chorus clean with fretless or into drive to use as a thickener, and flanger clean or after drive for more deliberate filter or synth type effects.
I think Chorus is the best for me. I generally love the tones you can achieve from using chorus pedals. Chorus #1, although Phasers and Flangers sound fantastic, too.
Im gonna have to go with the phaser. I'm also a huge fan of envelope pedals as well. Love the funky tones you are able to achieve with them. Enjoyed the video, and the playing as well! 🔥
I looked at many pedals and rack mounted effects for the perfect Chorus sound for my fretless. I found it in the Boss BF3 Flanger. Wonderfull world eh.
Just recently got an FL301 (the Ibanez version) on the strength of what I heard here and yeah, really happy with it! Thanks for letting me know about it.
Awesome demo 😎🤘🏻🎸 my personal favorite modulation pedals are chorus and flanger. I own one of each on my pedalboard and they sound phenomenal on bass. Clean and distorted.
My favorite bass chorus is the Boss CE-5 because the chorus effect is on a high pass filter so that you can use 'over the top' settings in a more subtle way and without messing with the bass fundamentals.
I have the Small Clone, though I originally bought it to get a Bob Mould sound for my guitar, I find that it works great for my bass. It kind of helps if you’re looking to get a Peter Hook kind of sound
I've got way too many Boss pedals from back in the day. They still sound great. My bass playing is rudimentary at best and mostly just for song writing and looping purposes. One of the best things I ever bought was a Boss GX700. It still cuts it. You get all the pedals you didn't buy without selling your offspring.
Been using the JHS Series 3 Phaser. I'm really liking it. Purchased it because it has a blend knob... which I find to be a necessity on most bass pedals.
I am so happy with my Moog cluster flux ! I have a phase 90 (not the vintage) but un don't like it on bass, it saturates too easily (but works fine with guitar !)
What... no TC electronics stereo Chorus/Flanger/pitch modulator? Hands down the best C/F/PM pedal ever created. Rare AF these days, sadly. Beatiful deep and very clean sound.
Love my MXR Bass Chorus. Never was a fan of flanger, and as far as phase goes personally I've never tried it on bass. However, I've been thinking of trying it out and getting 1 to add to my board in future
I wonder if anyone has ever attempted to use a phase shifter effects pedal between 2 subwoofers combined input and output and would it work?.I just started playing bass and discovered subwoofer amplifiers and exciter bass speakers recently.
Same here. They can all sound cheesy if you overdo it but in my opinion you can´t beat some subtle Chorus to make the tone a bit more transparent and smooth.
@@BananaJoseph you can,take your phaser and turn the rate knob down, then tweak with the depth and the feedback to a point where you find it good to your taste and you will got the most perfect modullation sound ever,a chorus with a lot of phaser nuances but still useful in the majority of band contexts
Walrus Audio make some modulation pedals that look like they might be bass-friendly, because they have dry/wet knobs. If you're looking for ideas for new content, I would be interesting in seeing reviews of some these.
I still don't understand the difference between chorus, flanges, and phaser. I had a book that described what each one does to the signal. I have MXR bass envelope filter and while I love it, I really don't understand how it works, so havent used it to full potential. The explanation of these would take a longer video than the short limit Gregor is shooting for. Again, if the vid is not 10 to 15 minutes, MORE PLAYING. Gratzi
The MXR analog chorus is a great choice for bass. More affordable then their bass chorus, and with fully adjustable lpf and hpf so it works perfectly even if you slam the depth and rate, and sound superior to the boss CEB-3. I think the MXR bass chorus is a bit redundant honestly given they have a fully bass friendly chorus already.
I find in their low settings, they tend to sound like chorus. If the flanger has a manual knob, it needs to be increased, I believe. Longer delay time, with low depth, low feedback, you should be in chorus territory.
Came looking to research a chorus pedal to purchase and realized that I needed a flanger all along but then I heard the phaser now I don’t know what I want
@@basstheworldofficial I bought a analogman mini chorus but I have one more 9v n a 12v slot left on my power supply. Which phaser do you recommend for me to check out my price range is $300 max. I have a rickenbacker and play through a ashdown electric blue 180 amp 4x10 and 1x 15 my bands is a 3 man group so the bass has to be fat n thicken up to sound, our style is kind of like rage against the machine and jimi Hendrix combined hard heavy rock blues . Idk if you know anything that will complement that kind of sound it has gotta be heavy not thin sounding , I’m serious man I’ll look into ur recommendations I won’t waste ur time
I thought the phaser was great on Star Trek , " set phasers to stun " , aye aye captain . Seriously , the phaser sounds the best out of them all , IMHO . I have seen STANLEY several times . I believe he uses reverb and possibly some delay . Perhaps you can explore his sounds .
Why all of a sudden people are all down on using chorus on bass. The 80's wouldn't of happened without chorus on all those bass rich environments of Pino Palladino (Paul Young, Journey, Sade, Kajagoogoo, every Goth band. Its a great pedal to change things up and use on your big moment (solo) or special piece. Had my boss 30yr was the first pedal I bought when I re-aquainted myself with playing after first band crumbled. No regrets at all, one of the few things I did right.
i can understand not loving jacos tone. It was super specific, and kinda only good in the setting he used it. If you showed up to a session using that tone the band would hang you
For me, chorus because Duff McKagan. Dude has a unique tone, and inspired 11 year old me to try to get a bass, because he looked pretty badass doing it.
IMHO: Chorus sounds better over bright tones (let's say a Jazz Bass into a Hartke aluminium speaker), and Phaser or sometimes Flanger, sound better over fat/dark and dirty tones.
In this video only the EBS Billy Sheehan pedal was made specifically for bass. Some brands make bass specific pedals as well as ones targeting guitar and there are some brands that focus on bass specific pedals. Guitar pedals aren't usually designed to retain low end and bassists with too much fx tone in lows and mids can mess up a mix if bass is performing normal function which is why you might use a parallel signal path where some of signal goes to pedal and gets all the color you like and some goes straight through with no fx and you can blend them.
Hey Gregor, a very nice video! Thank you very much (and thanks, Rene, aswell!)! I've never been huge on chorus, either, always prefered flangers. If you haven't checked it out, yet, you might want to have a look at the Thorpy Fx Camoflange. It's soooo good! Also, check out the Pine-Box Customs Siren. It's kind of a dirtier chorus pedal with some added features and I love it so much.
Ну давай, предложи или сделай чё-то новое и оригинальное, чего никто не слышал. Только я уверен, что если ты услышишь что-то подобное (th-cam.com/video/ZunEH_5r9cc/w-d-xo.html - очень крутые педали, как по мне), то ты назовёшь это слишком вычурным и ненужным. Большинство крутых и необходимых эффектов появилось в двадцатом веке. Пока что нам остаётся только полировать и совмещать то, что уже есть.
It's amazing that almost every non-english speaking person pronounces it wrong. I live in Sweden, and I can't think of one single musician here who I've heard pronouncing it right. Everyone says it like "ranger", when it's supposed to sound more like "badger". I listen to a lot of musician's podcasts, and even the most seasoned expert musicians and technicians don't know the correct pronunciation. Interesting that this seems to be a phenomenon everywhere, not only in Sweden.
I came to hear some interesting chorus and flanger sounds, ended up learning about Gregor being a huge fan of Star Trek's weapon systems.
My general approach to modulation for bass is phaser clean or into drive to use for subtle movement and color, chorus clean with fretless or into drive to use as a thickener, and flanger clean or after drive for more deliberate filter or synth type effects.
2:38 So much Billy Sheehan vibes by the playstyle and the sound !
My MXR Deluxe Chorus pedal has both options for Chorus and Phaser. Very cool.
I think the effects context depends on style heavily chorused bass sounds amazing in post-punk style music for example
I think Chorus is the best for me. I generally love the tones you can achieve from using chorus pedals. Chorus #1, although Phasers and Flangers sound fantastic, too.
Im gonna have to go with the phaser. I'm also a huge fan of envelope pedals as well. Love the funky tones you are able to achieve with them. Enjoyed the video, and the playing as well! 🔥
I looked at many pedals and rack mounted effects for the perfect Chorus sound for my fretless. I found it in the Boss BF3 Flanger. Wonderfull world eh.
For me the winner is that Fender Precision Bass Antigua
Thick in the mix 🤘
Just recently got an FL301 (the Ibanez version) on the strength of what I heard here and yeah, really happy with it! Thanks for letting me know about it.
This lovely man has the coolest accent ever.
Phaser and tremelo are my fav mod fx, but on guitar a nice jet engine flanger can be fun too.
On bass I play dry, phaser or fuzz.
TC Electronic Helix Phaser is amazing on bass! Dramatic and useful.
Awesome demo 😎🤘🏻🎸 my personal favorite modulation pedals are chorus and flanger. I own one of each on my pedalboard and they sound phenomenal on bass. Clean and distorted.
My favorite bass chorus is the Boss CE-5 because the chorus effect is on a high pass filter so that you can use 'over the top' settings in a more subtle way and without messing with the bass fundamentals.
I have the Small Clone, though I originally bought it to get a Bob Mould sound for my guitar, I find that it works great for my bass. It kind of helps if you’re looking to get a Peter Hook kind of sound
What about the electro harmonix the clone theory ?
@@Scaredalone24 that should nail the hooky tone since he used it
Chorus is super sexy again now that we all decided that the 80’s were awesome after all
For real
My favorite modulation by far is (Uni)Vibe, or Auto-Wah (if you consider it a modulation effect).
I’m like you, I love Phasers and Envelope Filters, definitely my favorite types of effects
I've got way too many Boss pedals from back in the day. They still sound great.
My bass playing is rudimentary at best and mostly just for song writing and looping purposes.
One of the best things I ever bought was a Boss GX700. It still cuts it.
You get all the pedals you didn't buy without selling your offspring.
Been using the JHS Series 3 Phaser. I'm really liking it. Purchased it because it has a blend knob... which I find to be a necessity on most bass pedals.
I can never just use a subtle amount of phase or flange, it's all nuts or I'm out.
I am so happy with my Moog cluster flux ! I have a phase 90 (not the vintage) but un don't like it on bass, it saturates too easily (but works fine with guitar !)
2:30 bro you didn't have to flex so hard on us we're just mortals
I love my Boss BF3 flanger
What... no TC electronics stereo Chorus/Flanger/pitch modulator? Hands down the best C/F/PM pedal ever created. Rare AF these days, sadly. Beatiful deep and very clean sound.
so cool! my favourite pedals for bass are all here :)
Love my MXR Bass Chorus. Never was a fan of flanger, and as far as phase goes personally I've never tried it on bass. However, I've been thinking of trying it out and getting 1 to add to my board in future
I used the Ibanez CS9 stereo chorus so much back in the day. & PH-1 also, cool jams.
Whoally crap!! The sounds! The guy w the beard.is too funky! the one with the pick excerpt was craziness! 🎸✌️👀
The Step mode in the Boss ph3 its amazing !!!!! i don have one but i have a Marshall Regenerator who does the same thing jajajajaaaa
I wonder if anyone has ever attempted to use a phase shifter effects pedal between 2 subwoofers combined input and output and would it work?.I just started playing bass and discovered subwoofer amplifiers and exciter bass speakers recently.
EBS Billy Sheehan and flangers much perfectly!
Was that Captain Sham playing the bass?
Bass with chorus needs a pick, even more so with a flanger. Recomend to listen yo Simon Gallup, especially the song Primary of the Cure in orange.
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@Toxic Potato COOL!
I don't find a pick necessary for a cool chorused bass sound.
@@teresaravenshaw5477 cool!
You may not need a pick but it comes down to preference. Using a pick does make the chorus pedal sound alot more pronounced.
If you enjoy phasers, check the Midnight by NativeAudio. Tons of really cool analog sounds with great digital control!
You had me at Antigua 😍
Just Chorus for me please. Carl Martin Bass Chorus is my favorite and I´ve tried many.
The JHS chorus pedal for like $100 is really good for bass fyi. even has a vibe switch for your dry signal for even more jaco play.
Wish I could get all the awesome tones from the 'ol Alesis Midiverb 4 in one pedal!
The last two 💕
Funny, I always thought a Phasor was more cheesy than a chorus.
Same here. They can all sound cheesy if you overdo it but in my opinion you can´t beat some subtle Chorus to make the tone a bit more transparent and smooth.
@@BananaJoseph you can,take your phaser and turn the rate knob down, then tweak with the depth and the feedback to a point where you find it good to your taste and you will got the most perfect modullation sound ever,a chorus with a lot of phaser nuances but still useful in the majority of band contexts
Walrus Audio make some modulation pedals that look like they might be bass-friendly, because they have dry/wet knobs. If you're looking for ideas for new content, I would be interesting in seeing reviews of some these.
The moog minifooger flanger and chorus are very good for bass.
I still don't understand the difference between chorus, flanges, and phaser.
I had a book that described what each one does to the signal.
I have MXR bass envelope filter and while I love it, I really don't understand how it works, so havent used it to full potential.
The explanation of these would take a longer video than the short limit Gregor is shooting for.
Again, if the vid is not 10 to 15 minutes, MORE PLAYING.
Gratzi
Beautiful Antigua bass.
The MXR analog chorus is a great choice for bass. More affordable then their bass chorus, and with fully adjustable lpf and hpf so it works perfectly even if you slam the depth and rate, and sound superior to the boss CEB-3. I think the MXR bass chorus is a bit redundant honestly given they have a fully bass friendly chorus already.
Great video
Great playing, and you really nailed the tone! Did you use the same MXR phaser as Rob Grange 9n the original?
Chorus with Octave. will sound like a synth
yesss
How do I make a flanger sound like chorus?
I find in their low settings, they tend to sound like chorus. If the flanger has a manual knob, it needs to be increased, I believe. Longer delay time, with low depth, low feedback, you should be in chorus territory.
No Vibrato ? :(
4:33 that reminds me of “Shadowplay” by Rory Gallagher
Cool video, and cool Jack Nicholson's eyebrows XD
Any thoughts from anyone on the Ibanez mini flanger? Similar to that FL301 from what I can tell. Or is that FL301 the way to go?
Came looking to research a chorus pedal to purchase and realized that I needed a flanger all along but then I heard the phaser now I don’t know what I want
You want a Phaser 😉
@@basstheworldofficial I bought a analogman mini chorus but I have one more 9v n a 12v slot left on my power supply. Which phaser do you recommend for me to check out my price range is $300 max. I have a rickenbacker and play through a ashdown electric blue 180 amp 4x10 and 1x 15 my bands is a 3 man group so the bass has to be fat n thicken up to sound, our style is kind of like rage against the machine and jimi Hendrix combined hard heavy rock blues . Idk if you know anything that will complement that kind of sound it has gotta be heavy not thin sounding , I’m serious man I’ll look into ur recommendations I won’t waste ur time
great music
Chorus on bass, Peter Steeles from Type O Negative secret weapon
The Phase 100 is great, you can get chorus-sounding tones out of it
Just sold mine. I like the phase 90 a lot better
Yup pulled it off and went back to chorus
I thought the phaser was great on Star Trek , " set phasers to stun " , aye aye captain . Seriously , the phaser sounds the best out of them all , IMHO . I have seen STANLEY several times . I believe he uses reverb and possibly some delay . Perhaps you can explore his sounds .
Came for the bass, stayed for the Gregor
Flanged octave that’s the one
Then hit delay
Could I use the MXR bass chorus with an acoustic bass? I use Fishman pickups
Sure
Why all of a sudden people are all down on using chorus on bass. The 80's wouldn't of happened without chorus on all those bass rich environments of Pino Palladino (Paul Young, Journey, Sade, Kajagoogoo, every Goth band. Its a great pedal to change things up and use on your big moment (solo) or special piece. Had my boss 30yr was the first pedal I bought when I re-aquainted myself with playing after first band crumbled. No regrets at all, one of the few things I did right.
Steve Severin of Siouxsie & the Banshees sound is a flanger.
What kind of bass guitar is that greenish one, with the MXR Phase 90?
That’s a Mexican Fender P-Bass in Antigua
RENE I BOUGHT A DOD BASS FLANGER IN 1986 AND I CAN'T SEEM TO USE IT , IT SOUNDS BAD WITH THAT IN AND OUT SWISHING SOUND.
Why not all?
I just want to be this guy's friend. he seems cool and fun
Over a PB it's the secret of Simple Mind's Derek Forbes
Try EBS Unichorus : 2 choruses + 1 flanger
I had a Sovtek Small Stone (black box) that I had for a while, and eventually traded it...still regret it.
I have one of those, too 🙂
Why wouldn't you use the Boss BASS chorus ? It's designed for bass .
If you don't like chorus, you don't like Jaco"s tone. Unfathomable. 😂
i can understand not loving jacos tone. It was super specific, and kinda only good in the setting he used it. If you showed up to a session using that tone the band would hang you
For me, chorus because Duff McKagan. Dude has a unique tone, and inspired 11 year old me to try to get a bass, because he looked pretty badass doing it.
IMHO:
Chorus sounds better over bright tones (let's say a Jazz Bass into a Hartke aluminium speaker), and Phaser or sometimes Flanger, sound better over fat/dark and dirty tones.
Are the effect pedals the same for guitar as they are for bass guitars ?
In this video only the EBS Billy Sheehan pedal was made specifically for bass. Some brands make bass specific pedals as well as ones targeting guitar and there are some brands that focus on bass specific pedals. Guitar pedals aren't usually designed to retain low end and bassists with too much fx tone in lows and mids can mess up a mix if bass is performing normal function which is why you might use a parallel signal path where some of signal goes to pedal and gets all the color you like and some goes straight through with no fx and you can blend them.
@@flamulated thank you for your reply. :-)
Hey Gregor, a very nice video! Thank you very much (and thanks, Rene, aswell!)! I've never been huge on chorus, either, always prefered flangers. If you haven't checked it out, yet, you might want to have a look at the Thorpy Fx Camoflange. It's soooo good! Also, check out the Pine-Box Customs Siren. It's kind of a dirtier chorus pedal with some added features and I love it so much.
I have the same phase 90 (as beaten as yours). it sounds amazing but it cuts a little the overall volume. does it happen the same with yours?
Cool😊
I've seen so many of these videos but I've not seen Gregor play.... Why?
I'm guessing René is paid to play for a reason. I'm more than happy listening to Gregor's presentation in his cool East German accent.
@@wuwliwonka yup I definately enjoy Gregor as well
Eu gosto muito do phaser.
all these pedals take the balls out of the real bass sound :)
Check out p-funk!!
3:04 Nod to "Portrait of Tracy"
It ain’t
I'm a flanger fan Boss is the best for bass
That P Bass!!
Chorus on bass, phaser on guitar.
Which one DOOMS?
All the sounds goes to the beard first before hitting your eyes..
Rene Flexin' Hard?
:)
Flanger on Bass reminds me of Roger Waters
How?
MXR Phase 45 sounds better on bass than a Phase 90.
I disagree
none for me...
All of them lol
They're all great. Unlike guitarist, we never get enough toys.
No "Stranglehold" without a phaser..
Сколько можно одни и те же педали эффектов делать? Десятилетия уже ничего нового нет
Ну давай, предложи или сделай чё-то новое и оригинальное, чего никто не слышал. Только я уверен, что если ты услышишь что-то подобное (th-cam.com/video/ZunEH_5r9cc/w-d-xo.html - очень крутые педали, как по мне), то ты назовёшь это слишком вычурным и ненужным. Большинство крутых и необходимых эффектов появилось в двадцатом веке. Пока что нам остаётся только полировать и совмещать то, что уже есть.
I don't use them on bass. It sounds like going in and out of tune, to me.
O only play root notes on my bass, anything other will piss off my band mates
no pedals !!
Univibe, man
“Flänger”?
It's amazing that almost every non-english speaking person pronounces it wrong. I live in Sweden, and I can't think of one single musician here who I've heard pronouncing it right. Everyone says it like "ranger", when it's supposed to sound more like "badger". I listen to a lot of musician's podcasts, and even the most seasoned expert musicians and technicians don't know the correct pronunciation. Interesting that this seems to be a phenomenon everywhere, not only in Sweden.