The Cult-Electric Ocean (Peace Version)

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  • @vlassisnikas7634
    @vlassisnikas7634 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is part of the "Manor Sessions 1986". Fantastic version.

  • @DaveClark-ib6sp
    @DaveClark-ib6sp 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    All of the material recorded in it's entirerty is SOO MUCH BETTER than the Electric recordings. Thank the musical Gods we have access to it!!!

  • @carinajohansson8696
    @carinajohansson8696 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Love Electric ocean one of my favorites love The sounds of The gitarrs ian you are so cool and beautiful ❤️🏹

  • @sulatlalaki
    @sulatlalaki 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    It's weird but I've been kind of re discovering the Cults music lately. These guys were amongst my top two favorite bands back in the 80s. Heck my kids' names were inspired by The Cult!

  • @stevemerryman18
    @stevemerryman18 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I can honestly say I like both versions. Almost like listening to two different songs entirely.

  • @Iydraen
    @Iydraen 13 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Thanks for the upload! Far superior to the Electric version.

  • @DaveClark-ib6sp
    @DaveClark-ib6sp 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Listen to that guitar work! He's unbelievable, I love hearing THE CULT with only one guitarist. Billy's rhythm to lead and back is seamlessly flawless! 2:23

  • @freewheeler2go
    @freewheeler2go 8 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    I will weigh in... this version is MUCH better than the electric version.

    • @romaniw17
      @romaniw17 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I know, the Rick Rubin version was so stripped down and basic sounding, not unique at all

    • @leighburne4098
      @leighburne4098 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I actually prefer most of the Peace versions to the re-recorded Electric ones.

    • @sulatlalaki
      @sulatlalaki 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Abso-frickin-LUTELY!

    • @zoso1980
      @zoso1980 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@leighburne4098 Me too. The Manor Sessions are The Cult. Electric is Billy and Ian mixed to try to sell records to AC/DC fans.

  • @robertosabatini2696
    @robertosabatini2696 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I prefer this version

  • @phil2208
    @phil2208 10 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    killer version!! better than the original. so spacey ! masterpiece

    • @Strimbles
      @Strimbles 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Much worse

    • @zoso1980
      @zoso1980 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This is the original. The phony 'let's sound like AC/DC' is the re-recording to pander to American corporate rock audiences. We all know how that went...

    • @Albrecht777
      @Albrecht777 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zoso1980 The "original" original version is actually the take that appeared on the "Out of Bounds" soundtrack. Despite a rockier sound and more overdiubs, this cut is still closer to that than it is to the "Electric" variant.

  • @bidipbo
    @bidipbo ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This version was originally released on the Out of Bounds movie soundtrack. Having already been a frothing Cult fan at that point, I was more in love with this version than the Electric album version. While Electric is a great album, I have never made peace with the band's departure from this sound.

  • @goosemansell
    @goosemansell 8 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Why on earth they scrapped this riff in favour of the electric version I will never understand...

    • @mrbubs
      @mrbubs 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      it's because Rick Rubin is a villain.

    • @zoso1980
      @zoso1980 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Because they were chasing dollars, ala rebranding the band as an American unit. They wanted to sell albums in the US, and Rick Rubin's repackaging included mixing them like AC/DC. It was a move that wasn't true to who they were. The Peace albums IS The Cult. Electric is them trying to be something they weren't.

    • @mattharrison5068
      @mattharrison5068 ปีที่แล้ว

      which was why I was disappointed at the time. I now see them as bridging metal and alternative without being a cash grab on Electric, compared to what happened throughout the 90s, not a bad thing, but not my thing, I wanted more psychedelic rock@@zoso1980

  • @buffed13
    @buffed13 11 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    KILLER better than the other version

    • @jscruz2
      @jscruz2 11 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You cannot be serious!

    • @UFO_computers
      @UFO_computers 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jscruz2 • Rubin version is lame

    • @zoso1980
      @zoso1980 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, the Steve Brown produced version is The Cult. Post-Punk, alternative and all their mystique intact. The Rubin stuff tried to move them out of the alternative market, and straight up into AC/DC territory. They wanted to sell albums in Oklahoma and Texas. That's why you got that stripped down version of Electric, that removed the mystique of the band. And, then t here's that goofy cover of Born To Be Wild.

    • @zoso1980
      @zoso1980 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jscruz2 He is, and so I am. This is The Cult. That version on Electric is a crass attempt to appeal to American corporate rock. It's garbage, as is the whole album. One big phony pile of Rick Rubin got it wrong.

  • @bernardfilip9803
    @bernardfilip9803 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love meets Temple sound....

  • @viel3501
    @viel3501 ปีที่แล้ว

    Canadian version : The band had a short stint in the studio to record a potential single with ‘Love’ producer Steve Brown. They were at Le Studio Morin Heights in Quebec and wrote and recorded the track ‘Electric Ocean’.
    It appeared in a much different form on the Electric LP but interestingly this Canadian version also ended up on the soundtrack to the movie ‘Out of Bounds’ which came out in ‘86.

    • @defidepetri
      @defidepetri  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Canadian version is totally different, but I love it too.

  • @carinajohansson8696
    @carinajohansson8696 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love Electric ocean love love love love love you ian ❤️🏹

  • @orkhan.s
    @orkhan.s 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    GTA & THE CULT❤

  • @lindaellen808
    @lindaellen808 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love this.

  • @fydstar
    @fydstar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I prefer the original as its straight to the point like the whole Electric album and why I love it and why ultimately i go to the Electric album more than any other. However I do like it, not heard any of the peace album yet, so keen to hear the rest.

    • @Albrecht777
      @Albrecht777 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      This _is_ the original. The "Electric" verison was completely reworked (and, in my humble opinion, inferior). Check out this set: th-cam.com/video/MG5p_DzAFWs/w-d-xo.html

    • @fydstar
      @fydstar 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Albrecht777 well yes, but for most the released album is essentially the original, as the OG versions were not available to listen to.

    • @zoso1980
      @zoso1980 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, if you like the Electric album, it's likely because it was targeted at a different rock audience than all the other Cult albums. It shows you Electric moved them into a different market, which none of their other records tried to repeat. And yes, this version is the original studio version. Electric was the "redo" after it was decided they need to go "American." In the process of trying to be an American band, they lost their mystique. Electric isn't a Cult record, it's the Cult trying to be AC/DC and, in the process betrayed who they were. It was an inauthentic record. Whereas Peace, that album IS The Cult.

    • @fydstar
      @fydstar 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zoso1980 they have continued to sound and live in America ever since, so maybe this was their authentic sound? In any case when a band changes their sound it always pisses off the band’s gatekeepers, sometimes with good reason but Electric was not a good reason and it doesn’t sound like ac/dc just because it’s simple. It is unquestionably The Cult and it shook off the goth tag rather effectively and I fricking love 80’s pompous goth (Sisters, Mission, Nephs), I like it all goddamit :)

    • @zoso1980
      @zoso1980 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fydstar I would disagree that they have continued to "sound American." If anything today they have their own thing. In terms of production, Sonic Temple moved the needle away from the Electric production that stripped all the nuance, mystique and depth away from the band. Ceremony continued in that tradition, too by allowing the mystique to exist between the notes again. Ian may have US citizenship now, but I'm sure Billy would not agree with you that they are an American band. I'd encourage you to listen to AC/DC's Who Made Who, Rick Rubin emulated that production pretty closely. I'm a little harder Billy and Ian for the decisions around Electric because it seemed trendy and forced, where their other work flows creatively. Born To Be Wild? I don't consider it gatekeeping, I consider it that Electric is the one album where they tried to hop on trends by other artists at the time - which is unlike them. The Cult has a unique authenticity in the work. I like bands to change and surprise me. Evolution is part of the game that keeps things interesting creatively. The thing that disappoints me most about Electric is that with targeting mainstream US rock audiences, Billy and Ian never got the credit in the alternative rock world they deserved. The got lumped in with the glut of Kingdom Come's, and far lesser 80s rock trying to cater to US butt rock. Their innovation and unique sound and structure was left to the those that found them off the grid, or the gatekeepers that always saw the brilliance. Lastly, I like what Steve Brown (RIP) said in an interview. Had they stayed with Peace, they'd had taken a more consistent artistic evolution and eventually, taken their place next to the great British bands. They would've become iconic, much like Zeppelin or the Stones. Sadly, Brown asserts that their legacy was ultimately diminished by repackaging themselves to an audience who'd never seek out or connect with LOVE or DREAMTIME or the records that came later.

  • @sebastiaooliveira5189
    @sebastiaooliveira5189 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE. .......

  • @DeathCultFan
    @DeathCultFan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The Peace album is infinitely better than Electric. Rick Rubin totally ruined it.
    However the best versions of this track, Conquistador, Love Removal Machine and King Contrary Man are the BBC studio session ones.

  • @lightningjimmyjoejohnson6624
    @lightningjimmyjoejohnson6624 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why is the video only GTA screenshots?

  • @jamesmartinez503
    @jamesmartinez503 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is ok but I prefer the electric version. Something about it that gets ya revved up man.

  • @TheOne0216
    @TheOne0216 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    great version I agree better then the electric version, but wouldn't fit into the sound of the rest of the electric album

    • @SpliffieBee
      @SpliffieBee 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I hope you heard about the Peace Album by now ...

  • @rayettaatune
    @rayettaatune 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Luna

  • @scott7521
    @scott7521 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sounds like Sonic Temple to me but too much reverb.

  • @adrianopadilha7338
    @adrianopadilha7338 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    THE ELECTRIC version is better. This version have a good intro, but is not heavy. The other is heavy, hard and ferocious!

    • @chrisharwood9456
      @chrisharwood9456 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Imagine holding a music opinion this terrible

    • @psychedelicfright85
      @psychedelicfright85 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Electric is basically a butt rock album

    • @zoso1980
      @zoso1980 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@chrisharwood9456 Yes, when people say they like Electric, but don't listen to many of the other Cult albums, you know who you are dealing with. They weren't fans of The Cult before Electric and weren't after. This is why the decision to rebrand and image The Cult as an American band with Rubin was such bad move. It betrayed all the post-punk, alternative and counter culture roots The Cult came from in favor of competing with AC/DC and Motley Crue. Awful decision. And, yes Steve Brown's Peace mixes are The Cult. Rick Rubin's Electric is The Cult trying to be something and someone they weren't. It's tepid and lacks the nuance of swirling depth The Cult are known for.

    • @zoso1980
      @zoso1980 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Adrian Padilha This version IS The Cult. All their post-punk, alternative and counter culture roots intact. It's not the band repackaged to sell CDs in Nebraska, as Electric is. Electric is a terribly inauthentic record that destroyed their mystique to convert them into an AC/DC clone. You may like it better, but Electric isn't really a Cult record. It's them trying to be something they weren't - an AC/DC clone.

  • @kickpublishing
    @kickpublishing 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    After listening to this I have more respect for Rick Rubin than ever - this is a fucking mess

    • @troymcclure8851
      @troymcclure8851 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      President with similar intellect & taste to the one in the White House now :P

    • @zoso1980
      @zoso1980 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Funny. I think this whole Rick Rubin mix coupled with their attempt to "go American" was a disaster. They were iconic in their sound and their deveopment. Dreamtime, Love and then Peace were a very cohesive artistic body of work. Their sound was iconic and instantly recognizable. Bring in the decision to 'go American" and that iconic sound and mystique gets trashed for trying to compete with AC/DC and Motley Crue, with everything being stripped bare. Nope, the whole Rick Rubin "Americanization" of the band was a disaster as it sold out their roots (post-punk, alternative) for the mullet crowd. Rubin may have done some things right. The Cult was definitely not one of them. He destroyed a band's iconic sound and tried to make them something they weren't. And, the band suffered from an identity crisis for years afterward. Were they mullet rock or alternative rock? They got lumped in with mullet rock because of this bad move, which screwed up their career and never allowed them to get he recognition as an iconic Alternative band they deserved.