I bought some MH Lapis last year and love it. I did have a strong sense of working with a connection to centuries of history when I first used it. Now I’m working with it in single pigment paintings to make the most of it’s very individual character. Nice vid, thank you Vicki.
This was the help I needed, thanks. I was looking for that beautiful blue in Monet's Blue Water Lilies. Since Lapis is almost impossible to get, now I see ultramarine in compare will work. You are pleasant to watch, gentle, knowledgeable. I will look for you again. ❤
These videos are more helpful than anything else- period! TY very much. PLEASE Keep em coming. I am changing brands to Michael Harding on the next paint order!!
There are/were four grades of lapis lazuli, and you're using the cheapest one (which is still bloody expensive!!). This is why your lapis ultramarine is less chromatic than the artificial (French) ultramarine. The most expensive grade of ultramarine was used for the Madonna's clothing and is more expensive than gold. "Ultramarine", by the way, means "beyond the sea" because it came from Afganistan.
I am confused cause if you click the pigment information on the lapis lazuli it says pb29 so I don’t understand what is the difference between it or anything else….seems like a rip off
it's been a year, but i might as well elaborate that both the synthetic and natural (lapis) versions of ultramarine blue are classified as PB29. normally, there is a distinction after the paint code name (i.e Daniel Smith has it's pigment listed as "Genuine Lapis Lazuli"), but MH seems to not specify that part.
@@ulutiu exactly. The modern French ultramarine is more intense and has better tinting strength and is much less expensive. The appeal of lapis lazuli is the cachet of the cost and nostalgia for the history of the pigment.
Hmm, each of these paints seemed quite dry. They didn’t spread smoothly. Also, the colors seemed unimpressive. Each color combination seemed to make a relatively unattractive, unappealing color. Strange as I realize this is expensive paint. Perhaps I’m comparing these to higher performance, higher chroma modern color formulations- such as with the lapis, but this paint.. these colors just don’t impress. Is the visible dryness, or, the viscosity displayed typical of Harding paints? I wish the lighting were just a bit brighter to see the paints and colors better. Well, this post is not meant as a put down, of the paint, of the artist/host, or if this video. Of course, many will see this video, and really like the paints and colors! Although I don’t favor the particular paints shown here, I appreciate this video, and I hope it gets lots of views, and likes from those who do. Thank you.
I have a tube of Lapis, it's kind of granular and the tinting strength is low. I don't mix it with anything except led white and small amounts of white at that. It really is beautiful but also very particular. I think Vicki has chosen more historical pigments to mix it with > naples yell, madder, terre vert etc. Historical pigments are not typically super high chroma. When I first started using those types of colours I was, at first, not really impressed. And then it occurred to me that it's because I'm so used to using high chroma modern colours. The palette my brain was used to was LOUD and very colourful. It took me a while, but I have developed an appreciation for those historical colours. And if you want to make a painting alla 15th century old masters still life - then yes, they do the job. In short, it depends on your personal palette - what you're used to.
I bought some MH Lapis last year and love it. I did have a strong sense of working with a connection to centuries of history when I first used it. Now I’m working with it in single pigment paintings to make the most of it’s very individual character. Nice vid, thank you Vicki.
Thank you. Because of you I have bought a lot of Michael Harding oil paints.
I am pleased.
This was the help I needed, thanks. I was looking for that beautiful blue in Monet's Blue Water Lilies. Since Lapis is almost impossible to get, now I see ultramarine in compare will work. You are pleasant to watch, gentle, knowledgeable. I will look for you again. ❤
I bought myself a tube of Lapis for my b-day.. You're right - it needs to be handled with gentler colours and mixed just so. I love it.
These videos are more helpful than anything else- period! TY very much. PLEASE Keep em coming. I am changing brands to Michael Harding on the next paint order!!
Such gorgeous colours, all of them!
Thank you Vicky and MH this is just what I needed right this minute.
Just ordered a tube! Can’t wait
I love Michael Harding paints!
Nice, I have most of those other colours, now I know what to use it with, thank you!.
beautiful colors.
There are/were four grades of lapis lazuli, and you're using the cheapest one (which is still bloody expensive!!). This is why your lapis ultramarine is less chromatic than the artificial (French) ultramarine. The most expensive grade of ultramarine was used for the Madonna's clothing and is more expensive than gold.
"Ultramarine", by the way, means "beyond the sea" because it came from Afganistan.
the Lapiz is still PB29? thanks
Yes. That's what I see on the description on the tube. Granted, DickBlick might be using an old photo?
Im confused. If its genuine Lapis Lazuli pigment, why is it still called PB29? Which is synthetic.
That’s the thing I am questioning cause if it’s naked with the same pigment then why is it so much more expensive
I am confused cause if you click the pigment information on the lapis lazuli it says pb29 so I don’t understand what is the difference between it or anything else….seems like a rip off
it's been a year, but i might as well elaborate that both the synthetic and natural (lapis) versions of ultramarine blue are classified as PB29. normally, there is a distinction after the paint code name (i.e Daniel Smith has it's pigment listed as "Genuine Lapis Lazuli"), but MH seems to not specify that part.
**Cries in poor**
Yeah, so many depressed people that do not intend to spend such money for a color tube that's actually inferior than common cheap ultramarine..🤣🤣
So are you saying the Michael Harding paints are not smooth or buttery but grainy. That doesn’t seem like a good feature.
The lapis lazuli needs to be ground a bit course if the crystals are ground too fine the blue is less intense
This particular paint is made from ground stone
I bet that lapis blue costs a fortune
It's like a hundred bucks for a 40 ml tube
In the irony synthetic version is both superior and extremely cheap in comparison to natural one
@@ulutiu exactly. The modern French ultramarine is more intense and has better tinting strength and is much less expensive. The appeal of lapis lazuli is the cachet of the cost and nostalgia for the history of the pigment.
@@jeffhreid Agreed. I feel the same about Vermillion and Cadmium Red
For only $100 per 40 ml tube I got myself a bunch of these. Great bargain!
,😂😂🤣
Hmm, each of these paints seemed quite dry.
They didn’t spread smoothly.
Also, the colors seemed unimpressive.
Each color combination seemed to make a relatively unattractive,
unappealing color.
Strange as I realize this is expensive paint.
Perhaps I’m comparing these
to higher performance,
higher chroma modern color formulations- such as with the lapis,
but this paint.. these colors just don’t impress.
Is the visible dryness,
or, the viscosity displayed typical of Harding paints?
I wish the lighting were just a bit brighter to see the paints and colors better.
Well, this post is not meant as a put down, of the paint, of the artist/host, or if this video.
Of course, many will see this video, and really like the paints and colors!
Although I don’t favor the particular paints shown here,
I appreciate this video,
and I hope it gets lots of views,
and likes from those who do.
Thank you.
I have a tube of Lapis, it's kind of granular and the tinting strength is low. I don't mix it with anything except led white and small amounts of white at that. It really is beautiful but also very particular. I think Vicki has chosen more historical pigments to mix it with > naples yell, madder, terre vert etc. Historical pigments are not typically super high chroma. When I first started using those types of colours I was, at first, not really impressed. And then it occurred to me that it's because I'm so used to using high chroma modern colours. The palette my brain was used to was LOUD and very colourful. It took me a while, but I have developed an appreciation for those historical colours. And if you want to make a painting alla 15th century old masters still life - then yes, they do the job. In short, it depends on your personal palette - what you're used to.
You obviously didn’t listen to what she said, when she explained these things in the video.