Under the given conditions, it’s zero in both cases. One can compute the current through each branch as: I_left=V_source/(Zc+Z1) I_right=V_source/(Z2+ZL) So that: Va=V_source Z1/(Zc+Z1) Vb=V_source ZL/(ZL+Z2) V_diff=V_a-V_b This gets a factor at the numerator equal to Z1Z2-ZLZc=R1R2-L/C=0
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I gave it some more thought : Time constant τa = R1*C1. τb=L/R2. R1*R2=L/C is just a formula in disguise that says the time constants are the same. This alone proves that voltage a will always be the same as voltage b. You might think differently but imho that is a perfect and way simple solution. Of course, if the component values would be randomly chosen and the condition was not given this get's you nowhere and my previous calculation would have provided the answer.
Yes the answer is zero irrespective of source frequency. Consider a step DC input at t=0, rather than a single frequency sinusoid. The transient response at nodes a and b (relative to the source common node) would be identical given (as noted earlier), the parallel path time constants are identical, if R1*R2=L/C. At t=0 in the step DC case, the voltage at both nodes a and b (relative to the source common node) would be equal to the input DC step voltage level. A single DC step would have a notionally 'infinite' spectrum. Nice question.
Answer for both A & B: Voltage difference is zero, regardless of the input waveform. Supporting calculations: Both circuit branches are first order high pass filters. Use the transfer functions for each type of filter. A transfer function in general is defined as: H(s) = £{V_out(t)}/£{V_in(t)} Where £{f(t)} is the Laplace transform of function f(t), and s is the Laplace domain variable. This means output voltages are given as: £{Va(t)} = £{V(t)}*H_rc(s) £{Vb(t)} = £{V(t)}*H_lr(s) Transfer function for an RC high pass filter: H_rc(s) = R1*C*s/(R1*C*s + 1) Transfer function for an RL high pass filter: H_lr(s) = L*s/(L*s + R2) Both transfer functions have the same form, with the only difference being the coefficients. So if all coefficients are equal, £{Va(t)} will equal £{Vb(t)}, implying that Va(t) = Vb(t), and the voltage difference will be zero. Indeed this is the case for the condition given. Rearrange the given condition, R1*R2 = L/C, to get L = R1*R2*C, and substitute H_lr(s) = R1*R2*C*s/(R1*R2*C*s + R2) = H_lr(s) = R1*C*s/(R1*C*s + 1) H_lr(s) = H_rc(s) Thus Va(t) = Vb(t) We can see that both transfer functions are identical, and thus there is no voltage difference across the two marked points.
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Given: V(t) = V₀ sin ωt and R₁R₂ = L/C => R₁C = L/R₂ … (1)
We see two highpass filters in parallell with time constants R₁C and L/R₂ respectively. Using the jω-method to calculate V_a: V_a = V·R₁/[R₁ + 1/(jωC)] = V· jωR₁C/(1 + jωR₁C)
From eqn (1) we get: V_a = V· jω(L/R₂)/[1 + jω(L/R₂)] => V_a = V· jωL/(R₂ + jωL) … (2) Using the jω-method to calculate V_b: V_b = V· jωL/(R₂ + jωL) … (3) Since eqn (2) and eqn (3) gives the same result: V_a = V_b the potential difference between point a and b is = 0 regardless of the frequency of the voltage supply. In question (a): V(t) = V₀ sin (15t) => ω₁ = 15 rad/s
In question (b): V(t) = V₀ cos (-9t) = V₀ cos (+9t) = sin (90° - 9t) This means just a phase shift. => ω₂ = 9 rad/s Answer: In both question (a) and (b) the potential difference between point a and point b becomes zero.
A more simple explanation: Two HP-filters with the same time constant. In the frequency domain they do the same thing. Thus Va(ω) is always the same as Vb(ω).
I get the answer that Vb - Va (or for that, Va - Vb) is 0 and is independent of omega. I guess you gave us a hint when you said that it somehow has a smell of a Wheatstone bridge. Using the supstitution R1C=L/R2 everything cancelled out for me so that Vb - Va = 0 at all times and is independent of omega.
Exactly! My first thought was was to check the condition for a balanced whetstone bridge and it matched! There’s the answer! I’m not sure why this problem is “difficult”.
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Sir so what I've done is that i first calculated the potential difference across R1 which is Va -0 = VR1/[R1² + (1/wc)²]. Now the potential difference across R2 is V - Vb = VR2/[R2² + (WL)²]. Adding these 2 equations we should get the answer because the resistors are always in phase with each other and with the voltage
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Can't believe it myself but i got it worked out : Va = V(Zr1/(Zr1+Zc) = V(R1/(R1-j(1/ωC))) Vb = V(Zl/(Zl+Zr2) = V(jωL/(R2+jωL)) Va-Vb = V((R1/(R1-j(1/ωC)))-jωL/(R2+jωL)) For both fractions to be subtracted the denominator must be made equal as usual. That means multiplying numerator and denominator with the denominator of the other fraction. I start with the numerators on both sides and already subtract these, which is the numerator of the result of the subtraction ( which then can be multiplied by V to get the numerator of the answer ) : So, for numerator of the result of fractions subtracted only : R1(R2+ jωL)- jωL(R1-j(1/ωC)) Substitute L with R1.R2.C as given produces : R1(R2+ jω R1 R2 C )- jω R1 R2 C (R1-j(1/ωC)) Working that out : R1 R2 + jω R1² R2 C - jω R1² R2 C + j² ωC R1 R2/ωC R1 R2 + jω R1² R2 C - jω R1² R2 C - R1 R2 Everything cancels out, the numerator is 0. I don’t have to bother working out the denominator cause whatever it is, the result will be 0 for this subtraction. 0 multiplied by V will still be 0, so 0 is the final answer for both questions. ω cancels out completely. It is funny to notice that the time constant for both a and b filters are the same. This means, whatever the waveform of the input voltage the answer will always be 0.
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Under the given conditions, it’s zero in both cases.
One can compute the current through each branch as:
I_left=V_source/(Zc+Z1)
I_right=V_source/(Z2+ZL)
So that:
Va=V_source Z1/(Zc+Z1)
Vb=V_source ZL/(ZL+Z2)
V_diff=V_a-V_b
This gets a factor at the numerator equal to
Z1Z2-ZLZc=R1R2-L/C=0
Thank you and thanks to all teachers of the world.
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Potential difference is coming out to be zero irrespective of applied voltage. I solved using phasor diagram.
Yes, phasor diagram makes this easy. Not sure why the professor expects it to be difficult.
I envy you, Mr. Lewin, because if you make a discovery, you have the opportunity to make it public and perfect it. And I have... But now I create these opportunities for myself. (I used Google translate)
I gave it some more thought : Time constant τa = R1*C1. τb=L/R2. R1*R2=L/C is just a formula in disguise that says the time constants are the same. This alone proves that voltage a will always be the same as voltage b. You might think differently but imho that is a perfect and way simple solution. Of course, if the component values would be randomly chosen and the condition was not given this get's you nowhere and my previous calculation would have provided the answer.
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Yes the answer is zero irrespective of source frequency.
Consider a step DC input at t=0, rather than a single frequency sinusoid. The transient response at nodes a and b (relative to the source common node) would be identical given (as noted earlier), the parallel path time constants are identical, if R1*R2=L/C. At t=0 in the step DC case, the voltage at both nodes a and b (relative to the source common node) would be equal to the input DC step voltage level.
A single DC step would have a notionally 'infinite' spectrum.
Nice question.
Answer for both A & B: Voltage difference is zero, regardless of the input waveform.
Supporting calculations:
Both circuit branches are first order high pass filters. Use the transfer functions for each type of filter.
A transfer function in general is defined as:
H(s) = £{V_out(t)}/£{V_in(t)}
Where £{f(t)} is the Laplace transform of function f(t), and s is the Laplace domain variable.
This means output voltages are given as:
£{Va(t)} = £{V(t)}*H_rc(s)
£{Vb(t)} = £{V(t)}*H_lr(s)
Transfer function for an RC high pass filter:
H_rc(s) = R1*C*s/(R1*C*s + 1)
Transfer function for an RL high pass filter:
H_lr(s) = L*s/(L*s + R2)
Both transfer functions have the same form, with the only difference being the coefficients. So if all coefficients are equal, £{Va(t)} will equal £{Vb(t)}, implying that Va(t) = Vb(t), and the voltage difference will be zero.
Indeed this is the case for the condition given. Rearrange the given condition, R1*R2 = L/C, to get L = R1*R2*C, and substitute
H_lr(s) = R1*R2*C*s/(R1*R2*C*s + R2) =
H_lr(s) = R1*C*s/(R1*C*s + 1)
H_lr(s) = H_rc(s)
Thus Va(t) = Vb(t)
We can see that both transfer functions are identical, and thus there is no voltage difference across the two marked points.
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Given:
V(t) = V₀ sin ωt
and
R₁R₂ = L/C
=> R₁C = L/R₂ … (1)
We see two highpass filters in parallell
with time constants R₁C and L/R₂ respectively.
Using the jω-method to calculate V_a:
V_a = V·R₁/[R₁ + 1/(jωC)] = V· jωR₁C/(1 + jωR₁C)
From eqn (1) we get:
V_a = V· jω(L/R₂)/[1 + jω(L/R₂)]
=> V_a = V· jωL/(R₂ + jωL) … (2)
Using the jω-method to calculate V_b:
V_b = V· jωL/(R₂ + jωL) … (3)
Since eqn (2) and eqn (3) gives the same result:
V_a = V_b
the potential difference between point a and b
is = 0 regardless of the frequency of the voltage supply.
In question (a):
V(t) = V₀ sin (15t)
=> ω₁ = 15 rad/s
In question (b):
V(t) = V₀ cos (-9t) = V₀ cos (+9t)
= sin (90° - 9t)
This means just a phase shift.
=> ω₂ = 9 rad/s
Answer:
In both question (a) and (b)
the potential difference between
point a and point b becomes zero.
A more simple explanation:
Two HP-filters with the same time constant.
In the frequency domain they do the same thing.
Thus Va(ω) is always the same as Vb(ω).
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Sir, My answer is ZERO in both cases based on phasor network analysis and given condition. Thanks and Regards
I get the answer that Vb - Va (or for that, Va - Vb) is 0 and is independent of omega. I guess you gave us a hint when you said that it somehow has a smell of a Wheatstone bridge. Using the supstitution R1C=L/R2 everything cancelled out for me so that Vb - Va = 0 at all times and is independent of omega.
Exactly! My first thought was was to check the condition for a balanced whetstone bridge and it matched! There’s the answer! I’m not sure why this problem is “difficult”.
It’s more similar to a Hay’s bridge actually. But still the same condition!
Same happened to me more than one way so wonder what i do wrong
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C'est un pont de wheaston équilibré puisque r1*r2=l omega/comega
donc ca doit se comporter comme un pont équilibré.
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Sir so what I've done is that i first calculated the potential difference across R1 which is Va -0 = VR1/[R1² + (1/wc)²]. Now the potential difference across R2 is V - Vb = VR2/[R2² + (WL)²]. Adding these 2 equations we should get the answer because the resistors are always in phase with each other and with the voltage
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shalom prof. walter lewin. I visited your channel probably after 2 years. Previously when i visited I was preparing for JEE and now I am studying in NIT second year now( its actually a class lower than IIT).
1. :- Sir I am failing terribly in college. I am actually not able to cope up with the daily routine and the classes are boring. It may be that the problem is in me as I am not able to secure good marks and my grades are degrading. I did try to understand what is being taught in the classroom sometimes I even grab the concepts but most of the times I fail. And then the environment -there are studious students but many study 'day before' exam, the problem is that if you sit in front and then try to focus on what is being taught and if you fail, they will start making fun. They say 'I studied 2 days before exam and still I got 8 CG but you focussed and you are still behind me.
shalom prof
Apurv
sorry to hear that - talk to your teachers about it
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I am 51 years old. I completed my first year in the specialty "Nuclear Physics" with A's in physics and chemistry and B's in mathematics.It was difficult for me to study, as I had completely forgotten the school curriculum, and I often watched TH-cam videos on physics, both for schoolchildren and for first-year students.
Potential difference between a and be is zero?
Worked on it a bit ... head is spinning and i got no result .... Now that seems to be the correct answer but how to prove it .....
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Hello professor...i have a doubt...can you please help me solve it...Can't we say that since E due to dipole at any distance is inversely proportional to r^3 ,gauss law is not applicable for dipole?
Can't believe it myself but i got it worked out :
Va = V(Zr1/(Zr1+Zc) = V(R1/(R1-j(1/ωC)))
Vb = V(Zl/(Zl+Zr2) = V(jωL/(R2+jωL))
Va-Vb = V((R1/(R1-j(1/ωC)))-jωL/(R2+jωL))
For both fractions to be subtracted the denominator must be made equal as usual. That means multiplying numerator and denominator with the denominator of the other fraction. I start with the numerators on both sides and already subtract these, which is the numerator of the result of the subtraction ( which then can be multiplied by V to get the numerator of the answer ) :
So, for numerator of the result of fractions subtracted only :
R1(R2+ jωL)- jωL(R1-j(1/ωC))
Substitute L with R1.R2.C as given produces :
R1(R2+ jω R1 R2 C )- jω R1 R2 C (R1-j(1/ωC))
Working that out :
R1 R2 + jω R1² R2 C - jω R1² R2 C + j² ωC R1 R2/ωC
R1 R2 + jω R1² R2 C - jω R1² R2 C - R1 R2
Everything cancels out, the numerator is 0. I don’t have to bother working out the denominator cause whatever it is, the result will be 0 for this subtraction.
0 multiplied by V will still be 0, so 0 is the final answer for both questions. ω cancels out completely.
It is funny to notice that the time constant for both a and b filters are the same. This means, whatever the waveform of the input voltage the answer will always be 0.
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I already bought the book but another version and I can't keep track of the problems
I don't think a pdf of the book exists - The publisher of the book wants to sell the book
Sir what would you tell to those students who dont grasp the beautiful concepts of physics rather memorize some equations and solve maths,? Can solve some maths but cant even explain Newton's law perfectly,
Understanding is way better than just knowing an answer. Understanding lets you solve problems you didn't think you could solve.
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Vab = - jV0/(wC(sqrt(R1^2+(1/wC)^2)))
Vab = (V0
Va - Vb = 0 in both cases (a) and (b)
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sir tell me a solution i don't remember anything I studied and readed? What should I do?
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Both V0. Because R2/L=1/CR1
a) V_ab(t) = V0 * sin(15t) * (R2 + j15L) / [(R1 + (1 / j15C) + R2 + j15L)]
b) V_ab(t) = V0 * cos(9t) * (R2 + j9L) / [(R1 + (1 / j9C) + R2 + j9L)]
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Both 0.
First sir❤.
a. 0, b. 0
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