Az, as usual, excellent and mean excellent work. Brother, I believe you are singlehandidly keeping .357SIG in the mix on TH-cam. Keep up the good work, buddy.
@@c.r.chandler5905 Thank you brother, really appreciate all the continued support!! You🫵are awesome!! Ton comin for ya this season... this is only the beginning😁🤙!! Thanks again!!🍻
@@davidtolbert6204 💪💯 Heck yeah!! Thank you🫵!! HST is definitely my favorite load for the 357 sig. I will have a test up very soon with it against the GD. Appreciate ya!!🍻
@@DEAMcN-t1f 💪💯Heck yeah, that's awesome, thank you so much for being here and taking the time to check em out!!.. means a lot, appreciate ya!! Have a bunch of fun ones comin this season. Thanks again my friend!!🍻
@@CYOA03 Thank you my friend!! And absolutely!!.. Someone's gotta do it lol. It's definitely one of my favorites and always super fun to test. Can't get enough. I appreciate all the support and appreciate u taking the time to check em all out!! Thanks again!!🍻
I could watch .357 sig videos all day no matter the ammo.. The only well known and readily available other high capacity semi auto caliber that compares would be 10mm but even then it’s a bigger projectile with more powder so it’s not a fair comparison.. That gold dot was a bit watered down but still performed. The Nosler reminds me of that Double Tap bonded defense with similar results. Great job as always and thanks for sharing .357 sig. 👍😬
Love the Noslers, they are monsters. I believe if you had to use these in a self defense situation that it would immediately stop the threat. Absolutely devastating! Great work AZ!!! You're the best by far bro!
You know I love .357sig, I have several boxes of each. My EDC round is the noslers, I was so upset when they switched to the XTP. Luckily I have a nice big supply of them. Thanks for another great test and video. You have a wonderful day my friend.
@@JosephJones.357sig Heck yeah, I will have some full size tests up for ya very soon to compair. Always appreciate ur time my friend. Thank you🫵very much!! Hope u have a great day as well.. take care.
Great video AZ! Man that Nosler makes a friggin' mess of tissue! And it actually exceeded advertised velocity for 3 reasons; 1. It was impact velocity that was measured. 2. It wasn't fired from a 5 inch barrel. 3. It was fired 5 feet further from impact than ordinance distance.
Great test as always. Love .357 sig. I feel like 40s&w is making a gradual comeback as well. Would love to see some more .40 testing. Keep up the great work!
40 has to make a comeback because police agencies are rediscovering how mediocre 9mm is in most loadings. There was a reason that 9BPLEs and corbon 115s were pursued for their "street rep". An HST at 38 spl energy levels....is the absolute equal to a .38 spl. stamping it with 9x19 does not change its performance. 9x19 exceeds 38 because of energy.
That’s why they went to the XTP! The Nosler can’t take the higher velocity of the .357 Sig and they can’t get a truly bonded bullet like the Gold Dot! An XTP probably can? (BTW: I can accept some fragmentation if it does not limit penetration.)
Been watching all these 357Sig videos, all excellent, and I have learned one significant point. I chose Golden Saber Bonded from the beginning because it has the best expansion to penetration ratio, ie sacrifice monster expansion for more penetration (16+). Watching all these videos has proven it true. Still watching and waiting to see if another can knock the king from his throne!
@@fanman8102 Heck yeah, the golden saber it a good one for sure. I'll be doin a test here soon for ya with it.. a more recent one at least so we can see how it does. Appreciate u checking this one out my friend!!🍻
Great test! I carry the Underwood GDHP in my S&W Shield 3.1" I averaged 1425fps. Underwood seems to be a mixed bag since covid. Thankfully I have a huge supply of GDHP and Nosler. And if you're wondering. Yeah, .357 sig is pretty rowdy from a 3.1'' barrel.
@DasNukem I'd have to see that 1425fps from a shield 3.1 inch barrel on a actual chronograph...that's what most people are getting from full size weapons..I have that same shield and others are getting 150 fps or so less than that
Love your tests! Thing is, the Gold Dot did exactly what a hollow point is supposed to do. That Nosler would give a prosecutor a field day. Pick your battles wisely
Both are obviously excellent. I may pick the Nosler over the Gold Dot if it has that much more velocity and energy. Especially if it is dumping the energy a devastating the damage area. The stills really demonstrate the damage. Thank you.
I carry a 40 shield and it's loaded underwood nosler 135. Really wish I had gold dot loaded or they could load some hst. Love hst but they are a little slow for my personal preference. Underwood is incredible and I've given serious thought about getting a 357 sig barrel
These rounds that fragment like the Nossler round are shit. When they blow apart and can’t hold together under these high velocities it’s kinda pointless when you’re looking for as much mass as possible to get the penetration depth you’re looking for. Give me the bonded rounds all day.
Time to water 💧 the desert! Make the flowers 💐 grow! Boy that rag flew... it really took off! I bet you got two chronograph readings one on the bullet and another one on the cotton cloth! 😂
@@ninjadave1970 Oh u know it!! Lol I totally have before too. I was surprised how far back it went. Back when we used to do the jug test, they would come back and hit me in the face or some other body part every time and would get soaked lol.
Long time fan of underwood...I'm used to my 357sig 125s moving always above 1425fps at least....for a 20 round box...if they are hovering around 1350-1375fps...I'm forced to go back to the 50 round boxes of federal hst at around 1350-1360fps. .underwoods advantage WAS their speeds and QC...COME ON UNDERWOOD TIGHTEN UP
I have both of these loads and have no interest in purchasing the XTP variety. The Nosler is my carry load as it most resembles the performance of the old school 357 Mag. round that was so effective in stopping fights quickly!
I stopped buying Underwood sometime ago when the Gold Dots went away. Maybe it’s not their fault. But, the Nosler’s fragments a little to much to my liking. And XTP’s don’t expand enough for me.
If they no longer load the projectile, isn't it a waste of time showing us how good something is when we can't get it any longer? You should show the marginal XTP bullet. The .357 Sig should get it up to the needed velocity for it to function at close range.
Why you gotta tell me they stopped loading these? So the 7 boxes I have of those gold dots is all I'm gonna get? Boo. They also stopped loading my favorite 45 ACPs. The 200 grain plus p's
As always, a tremendous presentation. I always appreciated the speed and power from the 357 Sig.and CCW that caliber often... Never feel that I am under-gunned.
Underwood should change their name to stupid shit ammo. They dont want to load nothing but these solid copper and leigh defense bullets nowdays. The gold dot the nosler and not sure what else are all discontinued. Now its extreme this defenderthat blah blah. They piss me off. In rifle ammo they got rid of the accubond bullets. No real lose though they were all 200fps below advertised velocity anyway.
Az, as usual, excellent and mean excellent work. Brother, I believe you are singlehandidly keeping .357SIG in the mix on TH-cam. Keep up the good work, buddy.
@@c.r.chandler5905 Thank you brother, really appreciate all the continued support!! You🫵are awesome!! Ton comin for ya this season... this is only the beginning😁🤙!! Thanks again!!🍻
Thank you again for the 357 Sig videos. Just ordered some boxes of HST.
@@davidtolbert6204 💪💯 Heck yeah!! Thank you🫵!! HST is definitely my favorite load for the 357 sig. I will have a test up very soon with it against the GD. Appreciate ya!!🍻
I don't even own a 357 sig, but I thoroughly enjoy your videos. Thank you for what you do bro, you're greatly appreciated!
@@DEAMcN-t1f 💪💯Heck yeah, that's awesome, thank you so much for being here and taking the time to check em out!!.. means a lot, appreciate ya!! Have a bunch of fun ones comin this season. Thanks again my friend!!🍻
AzAirgunner, absolutely brother and again, a big thank you, to you as well. Keep em comin!
You make great videos!
@@timb8970 Thank you sir I appreciate that!!
Its very much appreciated that you show so much love to the black sheep in the firearm world
@@CYOA03 Thank you my friend!! And absolutely!!.. Someone's gotta do it lol. It's definitely one of my favorites and always super fun to test. Can't get enough. I appreciate all the support and appreciate u taking the time to check em all out!! Thanks again!!🍻
Great test, as usual, AZ. Thanks for all the hard work you do. 😎👊👍🇺🇸
@@GreyShooter Thank you brotha!! Y'all make it worth it!!😁🤙🍻
I love these 357Sig tests ...
@@richki.24 Ton comin brotha😁🤙.
Good work and one of my favorites on YT. I just bought a USP compact in this caliber. Thank you.
I could watch .357 sig videos all day no matter the ammo.. The only well known and readily available other high capacity semi auto caliber that compares would be 10mm but even then it’s a bigger projectile with more powder so it’s not a fair comparison.. That gold dot was a bit watered down but still performed. The Nosler reminds me of that Double Tap bonded defense with similar results. Great job as always and thanks for sharing .357 sig. 👍😬
Keeping .357 Sig alight! Thanks man.
@@user-yd2jr1uj7u Thank you🫵!! Appreciate u taking the time to check it out!!🍻
I am running the nozzler in both my 357sigs. Super mean looking wound. Great video!
@@bullaaron 💪Heck yeah!!.. can't go wrong, definitely some nasty stuff. Appreciate ya buddy!!
Love the Noslers, they are monsters. I believe if you had to use these in a self defense situation that it would immediately stop the threat. Absolutely devastating! Great work AZ!!! You're the best by far bro!
Thanks. Gold Dots seem to do well in most loadings. Hard to find sometimes because of the demand. HSTs are usually available.
The Gold Dot round is only good when loaded by ammo manufacturers other than Speer like Double Tap, Buffalo Bore, and Underwood.
@GabrielCarterEGA what about the 200 grain +p gold dot in 45 acp
Cannot understand why they would stop loading both of these especially the Gold Dot
I think it had more to do with Sierra being able to supply the projectile.
Double tap ammo still loads their bonded round.
Because they underperform
@@lynch6642 The cavitational damage clearly suggests otherwise.
@lynch6642 Underperform ? Did you miss the video? I've put down hogs with both of these rounds and they are solid
You know I love .357sig, I have several boxes of each. My EDC round is the noslers, I was so upset when they switched to the XTP. Luckily I have a nice big supply of them. Thanks for another great test and video. You have a wonderful day my friend.
Underwood has loaded the 124gr XTP before. I have a box from 2015. The starline brass days. It's still better than most of the old factory loads.
@@JosephJones.357sig Heck yeah, I will have some full size tests up for ya very soon to compair. Always appreciate ur time my friend. Thank you🫵very much!! Hope u have a great day as well.. take care.
Daaaamn!! That’s a hell of a permanent cavity! Devastating round! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@@eduardovillalon7496 💪💯
Great video AZ! Man that Nosler makes a friggin' mess of tissue! And it actually exceeded advertised velocity for 3 reasons;
1. It was impact velocity that was measured.
2. It wasn't fired from a 5 inch barrel.
3. It was fired 5 feet further from impact than ordinance distance.
Great test as always. Love .357 sig. I feel like 40s&w is making a gradual comeback as well. Would love to see some more .40 testing. Keep up the great work!
@@mrselfdestruct454 Thank you my friend!! I can absolutely make that happen.. love the .40 too. Appreciate ya buddy!!🍻
40 has to make a comeback because police agencies are rediscovering how mediocre 9mm is in most loadings. There was a reason that 9BPLEs and corbon 115s were pursued for their "street rep". An HST at 38 spl energy levels....is the absolute equal to a .38 spl. stamping it with 9x19 does not change its performance. 9x19 exceeds 38 because of energy.
Since the 229 was the first 357sig I think ammo companies should test all 357sig through a 4in barrel. Always enjoy watching 👍
Great test! I prefer the Nosler.
@@funwithballistics1016 💪💯 Same here. Thank you!!
@AzAirgunner. really been enjoying your. 357 Sig and 10mm content. Thank you!
357sig awesomeness
That’s why they went to the XTP! The Nosler can’t take the higher velocity of the .357 Sig and they can’t get a truly bonded bullet like the Gold Dot! An XTP probably can? (BTW: I can accept some fragmentation if it does not limit penetration.)
they probably actually did it for cost. UW doesn't actually warrant that their bullets work properly. it's a boutique mfr, hit or miss.
Nice
HST still being the best it seems. major manufacturer, top notch bullet design, consistently above box rating.
Been watching all these 357Sig videos, all excellent, and I have learned one significant point. I chose Golden Saber Bonded from the beginning because it has the best expansion to penetration ratio, ie sacrifice monster expansion for more penetration (16+). Watching all these videos has proven it true. Still watching and waiting to see if another can knock the king from his throne!
@@fanman8102 Heck yeah, the golden saber it a good one for sure. I'll be doin a test here soon for ya with it.. a more recent one at least so we can see how it does. Appreciate u checking this one out my friend!!🍻
Great test! I carry the Underwood GDHP in my S&W Shield 3.1" I averaged 1425fps. Underwood seems to be a mixed bag since covid. Thankfully I have a huge supply of GDHP and Nosler. And if you're wondering. Yeah, .357 sig is pretty rowdy from a 3.1'' barrel.
@DasNukem I'd have to see that 1425fps from a shield 3.1 inch barrel on a actual chronograph...that's what most people are getting from full size weapons..I have that same shield and others are getting 150 fps or so less than that
Love your tests!
Thing is, the Gold Dot did exactly what a hollow point is supposed to do.
That Nosler would give a prosecutor a field day.
Pick your battles wisely
Both are obviously excellent. I may pick the Nosler over the Gold Dot if it has that much more velocity and energy. Especially if it is dumping the energy a devastating the damage area. The stills really demonstrate the damage. Thank you.
@@guardianminifarm8005 Absolutely agree.. Nosler always seems to be pretty nasty in the sig. Always appreciate ur time my friend, Thank you🫵!!
I carry a 40 shield and it's loaded underwood nosler 135. Really wish I had gold dot loaded or they could load some hst. Love hst but they are a little slow for my personal preference. Underwood is incredible and I've given serious thought about getting a 357 sig barrel
Check out Double Taps “Bonded” round, it’s the Gold Dot projectile.
@GabrielCarterEGA thank you !
@@drewfincham4018 Do it, becomes one of us! Lol
These rounds that fragment like the Nossler round are shit. When they blow apart and can’t hold together under these high velocities it’s kinda pointless when you’re looking for as much mass as possible to get the penetration depth you’re looking for. Give me the bonded rounds all day.
I really wish they start making more ds 1911 and striker fire pistols 😢
Time to water 💧 the desert! Make the flowers 💐 grow! Boy that rag flew... it really took off! I bet you got two chronograph readings one on the bullet and another one on the cotton cloth! 😂
I like your automatic AK74 knife too! ❤
@@ninjadave1970 Oh u know it!! Lol I totally have before too. I was surprised how far back it went. Back when we used to do the jug test, they would come back and hit me in the face or some other body part every time and would get soaked lol.
@@ninjadave1970 Thank you brother😁!!
Long time fan of underwood...I'm used to my 357sig 125s moving always above 1425fps at least....for a 20 round box...if they are hovering around 1350-1375fps...I'm forced to go back to the 50 round boxes of federal hst at around 1350-1360fps. .underwoods advantage WAS their speeds and QC...COME ON UNDERWOOD TIGHTEN UP
I have both of these loads and have no interest in purchasing the XTP variety. The Nosler is my carry load as it most resembles the performance of the old school 357 Mag. round that was so effective in stopping fights quickly!
I stopped buying Underwood sometime ago when the Gold Dots went away. Maybe it’s not their fault. But, the Nosler’s fragments a little to much to my liking. And XTP’s don’t expand enough for me.
Can you try the Underwood Xtreme defender 9mm 68gr +p+
I'm not sure there is a +P+ 68gr XD loading.
Underwood does not load a 68gr +p+ but do have the 90gr +p+ I can test for ya😁. @@عباسالشرع-ذ8ر
@@AzAirgunner. Than i must confused it with Something else😂😂
If they no longer load the projectile, isn't it a waste of time showing us how good something is when we can't get it any longer? You should show the marginal XTP bullet. The .357 Sig should get it up to the needed velocity for it to function at close range.
HST all day.
@@dtodeen 💪💯 Definitely my all time favorite for the 357 sig. I'll have a test up soon with it😁.
Why you gotta tell me they stopped loading these? So the 7 boxes I have of those gold dots is all I'm gonna get? Boo.
They also stopped loading my favorite 45 ACPs. The 200 grain plus p's
@@DrKreiger I know right!! Been almost two years now. Maybe one day they will come back around. I appreciate u taking the time to check it out!!🍻
As always, a tremendous presentation.
I always appreciated the speed and power from the 357 Sig.and CCW that caliber often...
Never feel that I am under-gunned.
Underwood should change their name to stupid shit ammo. They dont want to load nothing but these solid copper and leigh defense bullets nowdays. The gold dot the nosler and not sure what else are all discontinued. Now its extreme this defenderthat blah blah. They piss me off. In rifle ammo they got rid of the accubond bullets. No real lose though they were all 200fps below advertised velocity anyway.
What is brand X paying now days? Do they furnish the spiny sign or did you have to make your own?
@@adamshaw8214 lol at the notion that Xtreme Defenders are "stupid shit ammo"
@@h.r.puffnstuff8705what do you mean?
@@TERMINAL-BALLISTICS they do less damage than standard hst or gold dot and cost more for 20 rounds than you pay for 50 rounds of the others.
@@TERMINAL-BALLISTICSthey do less damage than standard hst or gold dot and cost more for 20 rounds than what you pay for 50 rounds of the others.