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Never. That game is rigged like no other. Owned by Russian oligarchs that fled Russia at the beginning of the war. Closed their office in Belarus and moved their money out of Russia just in case. A scumbag company through and through.
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Fact that most of the tank are not even real Even though its real such as STB1(japan tech tree) in real life,it have gun horizontal and vertical stab But in WoT That system was gone
One more thing worth to mention. Big concert lighting companies supply their equipment to the military to highlight drones at night. It's a WW2 style - searchlights and machine guns. And it works
@@kennethng8346 Iron Dome has a couple of problems: - it exists in a single instance - it is highly classified - it does not always cope with the protection of little Israel, and with the huge Ukraine, everything is worse - its price is greater than the budget of Ukraine for the next 200 years
@@1224chrisng $150,000 per shot. Also it might not be very good for Ukraine. They have been used for ballistic missiles which fly much much higher altitudes and the algorithm is different to anti cruise missiles which this is. The radar might not work and it only work from one direction afaik.
Not if the cost disparity means you run out of defense before they run out of offense. In essence these drones are targeting anti-air defense in addition to targets on the ground.
There is only one way going forward -- Use the Win-Win Cooperation principle to work with everyone, including your enemies. No one can afford to have enemies.
They develop tools of terror. Also the germans back in WWII were successful to invent some of the most amazing machinary and blueprints for the most crazy of ideas, but they didnt invest in other fields like other countries do. Like Iran does right now - it doesn't invest a mere fraction in welfare, or agricultural needs. This is to be expected eventally from a country/regime that knows only to sow hatred and bellicose into its people and weakened countries surrounding them.
arent you totally minimizing irans need for a powerful military, as it is the only thing keeping "democracy" at bay there? if iran had invested in welfare and agriculture, like before British Patroleums coup in the 40s or 50s i think, then they would be another iraq or afghanistan. @@eladon19153
@user-fj5sy8lb7wHence the term, 'Without bias'. I think what he meant was, without going into the details...if we actually look into the engineering part only... it's a great piece of engineering done with a very low price tag. It's upto the user whether they use it to help humanity and destroy it but the engineering part still holds true.
I want to point out the creativity of Iranians, which everyone misses out on. they created cheap asf weapons that can bypass or overwhelm complex multi-million dollar patriots (in Saudi Arabia) and s-300s (in Ukraine) and hit their objectives with relative success. It is really interesting to see that Iranians have successfully moved in the opposite direction in terms of the quality and quantity of military products compared to their western counterparts.
Western weapons are all about charging the customer extortionate amounts of money for weapons that are on par to much cheaper versions from other places. Unfortunately, when all the anti aircraft missiles are used up, the weapons manufacturers are happy since it means they can supply new replacements for billions of $, which in turn makes them alot of money. The only problem is the lag between expending all your munitions and getting replacements. If Hezbollah used this technique against Israel, combined with cheap rockets, Israel would be out of munitions in a couple of days, and be completely defenseless. It will probably happen in the near future.
Ukraine is not saving a single missile in this war. The problem is radar signiture. Surprisingly this drone is the most stealthy man made object right now. There was some analysis done. Despite being a propeler aircraft, radars are having problems picking it up.
Collateral damage. Flack guns causes a ton of shrapnel to fling all over the sky and rain down onto the drone targets the military is supposed to be protecting.
This drone is a test version and Iran sold to Russia for using in ukraine and find its bugs in a real battlefield. Iran has this monsters hit down technology but they wont share it for own security.
Flak shells were designed for high-altitude, air-borne targets, not low-flying drones. They work by blowing up near the target and spraying shrapnel in all directions. Do that at low altitudes over residential areas, and you will do much more damage the drone could.
@@howard6433 but gun based anti air System are still probably going to return. Just look at the new skyranger system. Throwing a few 35mm airburst (or even dumb) shells against drone is just cheaper then using surface to air missiles. (But you are still totally right, that's not what flak means)
@@howard6433 Not really, 20mm short range flak was widespread in WW2, radar fused shells are WW2 tech as well and though it wasn't viable back then, it is now. Thing is, warfare has changed and having flak everywhere isn't really viable because of the expense.
When I first saw the video of some Ukrainian police officers trying to shoot down some of these drones with rifles, that was my immediate thought. Modernize Flak guns to counter relatively slow, cheap drones
Rheinmetall (the German weapons manufacturer) makes a radar controlled flak gun that has variable timed munitions in order to shoot down swarm attacks!
Not just wars, but terrorist attacks as well. Russia is already using them against civilians, and Iran supplies terrorist groups. it's only a matter of time before a few land on a crowded marketplace or busy open street for the holidays.
I am no war expert nor any military background nor any deep knowledge of weaponry. But I have learned one thing. War is fought with 2 elements. Secular means and spirituality. A man needs to have rock solid resolve to go into battle against an enemy. Weapons help break a man's resolve. They become too dependent on them for victory. But there is another deeper meaning - much deeper. Those who feel the need for victory is the central goal of a war also help break a man's resolve. Because, if victories could be permanent then ancient empires will still be ruling us today. So, what is a victory? What is a loss? US won WW2 with use of WMDs or nuclear bombs, for example, but is in constant fear or pain or agony of China, Russia, Iran and others may pose a challenge to it's reign. Fearful can never enjoy victories nor they can be truly free. US victory is hollow. An already expired short lived victory. US won but at the cost of demonstrating human evil nature of creating total human annihilation type event! A true loss! You could check out Carl Sagan, a popular scientist, documentary on this subject on how science has created threats to humanity! True victory is understanding these basic truths of war and struggle of man. Those who master these will win even if they lose in a war! World will perceive that as a victory but heros who die defending an idea become heros by offering greatest sacrifice - their lives. How long will victors live? How long Earth will live? What is that victory or loss in scheme of things? This is Eternal truth! I would argue we should be convinced of these facts and then go into battle no matter how resourceful or not we are. There are such men the world knows as 'Taliban'. Because every man who seeks truth and true liberation is at heart, mind and soul a 'Taliban' - and not what news tell us to hear, see, and believe! In this are signs for those who reflect.
It's crazy just how accurate some of call of duty black ops 2's predictions for warfare in 2025 were. It was meant to be far out there, yet now we have kamikaze drones, cyberwarfare, etc.
US/NATO still bamboozled with Shahed 131 and 136... this is the first level, then there is the Shahed 191, Arash-2, Meraj-521, etc... Seems like Iran is ahead in the game of drones!
I was hoping for a mention of the Rheinmetall Oerlikon Skyguard system. It shoots 35mm airburst ammunition against drones. I'm sure it would be effective against these Iranian drones
@@milespaxevanos-evans8955 it's purposely built to fit existing 35mm air defense cannons, and other legacy hardware. It can be used to engage targets at distances above 1km. It is certainly enough to be able to cover larger areas.
At the time of night this weapon is very effective. Increase its altitude around 2 to 2.5 km so that it cant be reach by bullets. And indeed difficult to intercept by radar.
@@nos4me with the range of 2.5km and with an old radar inside cities (which is the worst place possible for this type of air defense) It would be as effective as mines on top of road for tanks which is easy to deny and the situation of Ukrainian electricity says alot about their air defense
An audio detection system could be effective to locate and track drones. Similar systems have been used to find snipers. Raised wire nets can also be effective to protect assets.
The loud sound was intentionally added to Kamikazee to put fear in the civilians; therefore, if they will reduce the sound your suggestion will put it to nothing.
Don't think so. They showed themselves ineffective against military targets and were used to attack civilian infrastructure with fixed coordinates. I am not sure that US army were interested in such type of weapon.
@@vitaliydiachenko5947 they are cheap and cant be targeted by older SAMs deployed by Ukraine. And hitting fixed civilian infrastructure can be devastating as you see now with Ukraine energy network almost completely disabled. hitting fixed targets can sometimes be more damaging than mobile military targets
@@nazeem8680 I mean that attacking civilian targers is not a US army priority, that's why such drones were not developed. So I don't think that iran managed to get ahead.
I know war is not fun. But I like how Warfare has change the lst 20 years. How big fights back in WW2 are nowerdays impossible cause of drones. How there is just a fight between UAV vs UAV because they are so effective. It will be intresting to see how diffrent countries devolp things against drone attacks or if they change morder warfare so far that no one in 20 to 50 years sit in a fighter jet or a tank anymore.
It is far from "just" a fight between UAVs. There have still been tens of thousands of military and civilian casualties in this war so far, and the killing shows no signs of ceasing anytime soon. Never forget that at the end of the day it is always individual humans who are suffering in warfare, no matter how "clinical" it seems on the surface.
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This problem was already solved by the British in the World Wars. Balloons tethered to cables. Sometimes hundreds of them at different heights around one important place. It is cheap, passive and worked very well. The balloons can range in any size and would use hydrogen, this way an exploding balloons will bring attention. The other thing was netting. Disgarded fishing neys work very well and are easy to obtain.
I feel like the Medusa noise pollution sensors developed by Bruitparif could easily be repurposed to detect and track UAVs and low-flying aircraft. The UFO hunting cameras being developed by Sky360 might also be an economical sensor to deploy. They're small, comparatively cheap, and weather resistant, so setting them up broadly could be feasible. And then after the war, Ukraine will have tools to monitor their airspace and enforce environmental regulations.
Yep, and during any attack Russia will have a bunch of Gerum2 doing figure 8 racetrack flights on the way to, around and over the target areas, it'll be an utter sh*tshow..
@@Veldtian1 You realize those sensors can triangulate multiple vehicles simultaneously, right? They're designed to sit on lampposts and automate issuing fines to noisy vehicles. No reason you can't flip them upside down and calibrate them for aircraft of interest.
The (USA) America calls it "Liberation" instead of "Invasion". That was what US call it in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, Yemen, Somalia and the list goes on... Why the double standard? Confused... Please enlighten. Genuine question... Instances of the United States "liberated" or overthrowing, or attempting to overthrow, a foreign government since the Second World War. (* indicates successful ouster of a government) China 1949 to early 1960s Albania 1949-53 East Germany 1950s Iran 1953 * Guatemala 1954 * Costa Rica mid-1950s Syria 1956-7 Egypt 1957 Indonesia 1957-8 British Guiana 1953-64 * Iraq 1963 * North Vietnam 1945-73 Cambodia 1955-70 * Laos 1958 *, 1959 *, 1960 * Ecuador 1960-63 * Congo 1960 * France 1965 Brazil 1962-64 * Dominican Republic 1963 * Cuba 1959 to present Bolivia 1964 * Indonesia 1965 * Ghana 1966 * Chile 1964-73 * Greece 1967 * Costa Rica 1970-71 Bolivia 1971 * Australia 1973-75 * Angola 1975, 1980s Zaire 1975 Portugal 1974-76 * Jamaica 1976-80 * Seychelles 1979-81 Chad 1981-82 * Grenada 1983 * South Yemen 1982-84 Suriname 1982-84 Fiji 1987 * Libya 1980s Nicaragua 1981-90 * Panama 1989 * Bulgaria 1990 * Albania 1991 * Iraq 1991 Afghanistan 1980s * Somalia 1993 Yugoslavia 1999-2000 * Ecuador 2000 * Afghanistan 2001 * Venezuela 2002 * Iraq 2003 * Haiti 2004 * Somalia 2007 to present Honduras 2009 * Libya 2011 * Syria 2012 Ukraine 2014 * Hong Kong 2019 2014 - 2022 - 6 countries yet to verify. Pakistan 2022 * Haiti 2022 * Serbia 2022
Because its a double standard they can get away with because they control the media more or less and are the most powerful militarily and other nations don't want to piss them off.
This comment is trying to dissuade criticism about the Russian invasion of Ukraine, correct? If we are comparing the Ukrainian invasion, why did you bring up instances like Hong Kong? Did the US bomb Hong Kong in 2019? See how that's a dishonest comparison? Normally, a person would think soft-power and political pressure is much different than dropping bombs. Much of your list is conflated like this. >> There is one main difference for the rest of your examples- *the US did not annex any of those countries*. Even when the US invaded Iraq and "stole their oil", the US never stole oil. It went back to the global market and Iraq was able to profit by selling oil contracts to numerous countries- unwittingly for the US, much of the oil contracts were bought by China. There isn't much confidence the same will happen if Russia takes over Ukraine. I think the world expects another resource stripping like what the Soviets did to East Germany. To reiterate the main point, there is no double standard because the US never invaded then annexed a sovereign country. Putin has already claim annexation of seized Ukrainian territory.
Your context is off; it is not a "drone" -there is no pilot or AI on a base somewhere controlling it. You put in coordinates and it just goes there; and apparently there is a way to update those co-ords by radio but that is it. Switchblades loiters over the battlefield with sensors pointing down -the soldiers have receivers that they watch the feed with and if they see a target; fly down on to it. Bayraktars are small planes that are controlled by pilots and computers from a base.
@Absolute Mad Chad The Shahed-136 is completely autonomous. There is no pilot input after launch. These are not drones, but cheap cruise missiles. They do not loiter.
A "drone" if just a UAV. The shahed has no pilot inside it, therefore it is unmanned. It flies, therefore it is an aerial veichle. A UAV can be fully autonomous.
@Absolute Mad Chad Thanks bro. I've seen some pretty pathetic attitudes from the refugees, making TikTok videos complaining that the places they're given to live in aren't up to Ukrainian standards. Not to mention the whining about shaheds while similtaneously posting videos of them dropping grenades/mortar shells on people from drones.
@@daviddavidson2357 "The shahed has no pilot inside it, therefore it is unmanned. It flies, therefore it is an aerial veichle." Therefore; paper planes are drones? or if they need propulsion -how about RC toys? Either you are woefully ignorant or you are trying really hard to push some weird bias/agenda.
Why it is so cheap: it uses bike engine, not aircraft-class engine. It has no communication or remote control capability. It just flies to the preset target without any ground control like missile. So simple so cheap and light. So it can carry heavier warhead with much more explosive power. Way cheaper and better than US switch blade drone which requires elaborate remote ground control.
They are not kamikaze drones any more than a missile is a kamikaze missile or a bullet is a kamikaze bullet. There is no person on board making the ultimate sacrifice. These are just explosive drones.
@@bubba842 That does make them more vulnerable to anti-aircraft fire, as they would be slower in the climb and the higher altitude allows more anti-air systems to be in the line of sight.
Hahahaha...the Gepard. A colossal hunk of junk even back in the mid 80s when I served as a Kraftfahrer (driver). Luckily they resigned us to a Leo 2 later on.
@@Dr.MSC.W.Krueger It's like fashion. Sometimes things go back into fashion. An gepard is really effective against a threat that did not exist when it was being developed.
War is hell but i gotta respect the iranian that develop such cheap drones that can destroy multi million dollar systems, if only they could make the engine much quiter it would be devestating.
While small arm ammunition's is cheap, "bullets" that can shoot down drones are not cheap and still cost much more than the drone itself. C-RAM for example, fires 20mm HEIT-SD at 4500 round per minute, that's a whopping 75 rounds per second, one short burst and $100,000 is gone. Anti-aircraft guns use rounds equipped with a proximity fuse which is even more expensive. The second C-RAM fires, it's exposed, it will take out a few drones at first but quickly getting destroyed by more drones. Remember, drones only need to overcome 2km distance to take out an anti-air gun, even at a 50:1 kill ratio drone wins.
I think SPAAs (Self Propelled Anti-Aircraft) would be a big help. Something like the German Gepard or American LAV-AD could move with the asset it's protecting and even actively react to the current need. It's cheep to use like the C-RAM but significantly more mobile. And I think the LAV-AD actually uses the same gun as the C-RAM.
How do crowd spotters work at night or when it is heavily overcast? And what if Russia puts mufflers on those drones? But the big question is why it is OK for the USA to give weapons to Ukraine and to pay their soldiers and the burial costs of their soldiers but it is not OK for Iran to sell weapons to Russia?
If the drones are that loud, shouldn't it be pretty easy to trilaterate them with strategically positioned microphones placed all over Ukrainian cities? We have a system called Shotspotter that can detect the signature sounds of gunfire. Surely these noisy motors produce their own signature sound that can be isolated in real-time. Sounds like a much more advanced and reliable method than relying on crowdsourced, civilian infra.
what is certain is the success of this Iranian kamikaze drone has succeeded in making Ukraine live in the dark and their war equipment destroyed and many Ukrainian soldiers dead. talisman is bunos for russia🤣🤣🤣
They should consider an updated app, that listens for the distinct audio characteristics of the shahed-136. Setup a few in known locations, work out the timing difference in audio arrival, calculate location based off the timing differences, do that over time to get a tracking solution. Use to target their defenses. Setup a perimeter of groups of three of these spaced a couple of kilometers apart, assuming that they are effective enough to detect at similar distances that people can hear them. Automated Shahed tracking solution for the cost of a few hundred cheap consumer phones.
Expensive and time consuming to develop the algorithm, and far too cheap and easy to counter in return. Changing the materials or the geometry or even measurements and number of the propellers would change the sound characteristics drastically. And if you have multiple different patterns of propellers, all running on the same platform of drone, then this entire method is completely undone. I like your thinking though.
If the bomb drones are flaying low above 2 km and slow up to 200 km/h it can be shoot by AA baterie with guns from 20 to 40 mm equiped with thermal sighting with few shoots of expirience AA crews that costs max 1/25 value of cheapest Iranian drones wich has been done in many cases by UA AA defence.
I always had this idea of using a REALLY powerful spark gap radio to jam everything that uses a frequency on the EM spectrum. It’s why they are illegal to use; they are so old they scramble and interfere with everything that we use nowadays.
I think Palmer Luckey is the only one on the right track to use a swarm of drones to attack a swarm of drones. Cheap tactics requires cheap gadgets to fend off.
08:53 that dude created a VR headset that will cancel your existence irl if you die in a video game 😂 I watched a video about it a couple of hours ago on Hugo Talks channel so it’s quite the coincidence he’s popped up twice today for me
He didn't. It's false information, as while he designed a concept for a VR headset that kills you if you die ingame, it is only a concept, and was literally only created as an homage to SAO, which takes place in 2022.
Actually the West know how to penetrate all this drone's,if they want too.there are lots of all air defense like CRAM air defense for close fight and anti drones
It's cheaper to buy than to switch off production from small munitions or just military supplies in general. Russia has always had sanctions, they were never in a spot to produce freely. The same is to be said with most nations other than China or the US
Production is not high, so when using a lot you need help. All NATO wars everybody was supplying everybody, so it was only a matter of time before they will need more manufacturing capabilities
I wonder if you could just strap a $3k Jetcat engine to a $3k fibreglass model F18 and program Ardupilot to take it up to altitude and then enable a secondary program to fly toward these drones. You could probably detect them with a phased microphone array and use a low pass filter to listen for the 2 stroke piston engines and ignore the jet engines used by the other friendly drones.
The expensive part of making that kind of equipment is not making the thing fly but making sure that it can detect enemy drones and fire weapons automatically. Sensors can be very expensive. Also need to remember the thing that flys with a jet engine is going to be so loud making its own microphone impossible to listen for other crafts.
The USAF has a squad of ai driven, pilotless F-16s based in Florida. On TH-cam. Most videos are old, they have gotten quiet about program for some reason.
1. I've only seen one incident of Geran-2 (Shahed-136) interception until now, the very same in this and all other video clips: 0:46 2. I've never seen a swarm attack by Geran-2 (Shahed-136). 3. Glad to receive genuine data proving othervice. PS: January 2023, and still has not seen either a swarm attack by Geran-2 (Shahed-136) or another genuine example of an interception.
The crowdsourcing app is totally brilliant. I hope they get the autonomous drone interceptor drones. They should design their own drone intercepting drones that can be made easily at home with manual television guidance. A two-stage design powered by model rocket engines, where one motor launches a high-speed, airplane-like drone with a short-range nanny-cam TV transmitter and radio control. It just does a couple of turns looking for the target and glides back if nothing is seen. If it sees the target, the second rocket accelerates into the other drone, piloted by remote control. We had prototypes like this shooting down helicopters in the 1980's. Its short range, and you either have to know the drone is coming, or be there all the time waiting to launch when you hear the drone approach. The rocket makes it very fast.
Use the app; get targeted to play World of Tanks. Why do I get the feeling this app is a hoax? Easier to find everyone if everyone uses the same app all at the same time.
Crowdsourcing only work as long as cellular connection is alive. And a cellular tower sending out its radio waves is like a perfect homing beacon for a drone.
I like how we are like "a bunch of morons" trying to figure out everything. see how Ukraine has become a huge weapon market. The USA loves Iran, without Iran how they would sell a couple of trucks for half a billion dollars?
Stupid question : could it be possible to create arty guns that fire 40 mm big shotgun cartridges ? I mean, it you can hit a little bird at a hunt with this, that might work for a drone at a bigger scale ?
It would be interesting to see what happens if you laser these drones. I'm sure that they're made of cheap plastic, so it might just be interesting to try out some new laser weapons on them. Plus, it would be a lot cheaper than shooting a missile or gun at them.
@@geediosman6415 They commited war crimes more than a century ago. So yea the people who committed the genocide are dead. So what should we do bring them back from their graves and then put them on trial?
How about a CIWS like system that, instead of using radar, uses, well, microphones and a video camera, they seem to be the right way to zero in on a drone. Fire bird shot or some other shotgun shell and you have a cheap drone destroyer that won't rain bullets on the ground. Shell shot pellets are harmless by the time they hit the ground.
I think the most cost-effective and safest way to combat loitering drones are explosive radio programmable ammo systems such as Bofors, Pasars... 40 mm rounds full of tungsten balls, they don't come down, won't hurt anyone on the ground and you use few bullets to bring down one drone. They are not so cheap systems, but they have other uses on the battleground, not only shooting down cheap stuff.
China probably has billiosn of old computer chips alone, as chineese modernise the old cheap stuff can be sold off, same with any country, the whole world uses billions of cpus, gpus and other chips, you can buy 5 dollar cpus on ebay or ali express ahhaHha
It seems like this would be the perfect situation to employ CRAM systems, things like General Dynamics' Phalanx, Rheinmetall's Mantis or Signaal's Goalkeeper CIWS
Going to say it again because it needs to be said. Nets/chain-link fencing and soft / passive defences similar to WWI Barrage balloons would be quite effective.
You could use lasers. This would require detection but shooting a laser is much less expensive than missiles and have a range much longer than bullets.
shooting it would be less expensive. But manufacturing it would've been expensive. Also lasers that can burn people or permanently blind people are warcrimes and illegal under the Geneva conventions, and multiple wartime laws. Considering that a laser that can burn skin isn't capable to burn through steel. Plus lasers that could burn a person of blind them permanently would be a breach on the Geneva conventions. Lasers that are powerful enough to pierce through steel can also blind the soldier who is firing or anyone looking directly into the laser beam since it would create a large beam of concentrated light that can blind anyone who looks at it like a mini sun. Soo.... Yeah you get the point.
Economical sense of using a weapon is determined mostly by the damage the attacker would do otherwise, rather than the relative cost compared to the attacking device. The unbalance should, however, trigger development of cheaper, more targeted weapons to mitigate the thread.
They found Farsi writings belonging to the QC person at the factory, inside a part of the engine. Proves it was Iranian built. The best way to fight a drone, is with a drone. We've been doing that for at least a decade. You must have seen the drones that shoot a web at the target drone, which tangles in their props and causes them to crash.
I'm Iranian and we know damn well that we made these but politics just work differently. As for tangling them, they would then drop on civilians. Not a good idea. That's the reason asymmetrical warfare works!
@@garshasb I provided the example of a legal proof. Not heresy. There are other methods. One that forced the American spy drone to land and be captured by Iranians. An example of such electronic warfare, is to direct fake GPS signals via a handheld EM rifle and overwhelm the GPG receiver onboard with new fake coordinates. The drone has to be in the line of sight of the EM antenna. That's why they pick top of the hills as best places for radar and radio activity. Stinger missile MANPAD is the best defense against this drone @$200K a pop. It's not a problem throwing money at won't solve.
@@piconano Well then it would be considered Attrition Warfare. Remember the Iranian drone arsenal is much more versatile than that. The Saheds can work as a swarm to overwhelm the enemy defense system and the likes of Arash 2 are so fast and destructive that will definitely cause escalation which would result in more money spent. Of course these can be used in sequence where the Shaheds would get rid of the enemy defense and then the Arash 2s would strike(or any Russian/Iranian missile in that case if needed). To add to that, Iran has surveillance type drones like Mohaajer 6 which could be used as an observer unit and they actually have a higher altitude than most American surveillance drones(there are videos of them flying above the mentioned drones unnoticed) and there are other stealth-type surveillance drones that captured footage of the US carriers in the Persian Gulf back in 2016 and the footage was released in 2019 and they basically go unnoticed. When used in combination, the Mohaajer 6 can act as the optics for the surrounding Shaheds or other drones to guide them. Basically our military/security doctrines are based on asymmetrical warfare and we also practice this with our marine forces as well. The current publicized methods are designed to overwhelm the defense system and cause attrition through escalation while resulting in a relatively high success rate. Let's hope peace to the world!
tell that to the economics .. in a long term fight you don't want to go bunkrupt .. the Russian learned the lesson and stopped using expensive cruise missiles for everything
@@verdebusterAP ok then let's go counter a 20k$ drone shower for one year by 150k to 1million rocket a piece, and let's see if you have anything left to develop a can of soda by then!
@@NoobGamingXXX Right we can't engage that 20K drone carrying 60-100lbs warhead which is literally enough to shred any vehicle as well inflict major damage just because it costs too much no one ever said You either use what you have or lose major assets or take damage its that simple Like I said n a long term fight, you would have counter UAS capabilities developed by then
Well, they've developed the Iron Beam, using a laser. This will likely be effective for Israel, where it's rarely cloudy or foggy, and the attacker is launching from one tiny area (Gaza). These drones are programmable (can approach a target from any direction), and Russia could simply launch them when visibility's bad (which happens a lot in eastern Europe).
The Iranian drones are just guided munitions like German V1s in WW2. Calling them "kamikaze" drones is like calling ballistic missiles kamikaze missiles.
@@imustbust998 What give you the idea that they are stand-off weapons, or even have that capability? They are slow, loud, easy to spot, and easy to shoot down. Why would anyone "loiter" these things near its target? Why would anyone design such a weapon to even "loiter"? To lower its chances of success?
The “real” economic analysis of anti-drone defense is not whether the defensive weapon is more expensive than the drone, but rather whether the defensive weapon is more expensive than the damage the weapon is likely to cause. That’s why air defenses are typically located around “high value” targets.
Very interesting video, thanks for sharing your insights. In my opinion, even C-RAM cost about $2,500.00 usd per bullet. At 7 bullets per second, assuming an average of 5 seconds to hit one target. A swamp of 20 drones, $70,000 x 20 = 1.4 millions usd. It’ll take less than 30 seconds to travel 1 mile. C-RAM will cost too much too.
Hearing the cost for these missiles and weapons systems makes me wonder the real reason behind not just this war, but any war. If you want to find the culprit behind any crime - "follow the money".
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what does this have to do with this serious topic? WORLD OF TANKS PLAY FOR FREE NOW I COULDNT HAVE PUT THIS AT THE START OR END OF THE VIDEO love the sillyness contrasting all the people dying in the war
there are no expensive to shot drones, because if they hit the targets the damage would be much more expensive!
Fact that most of the tank are not even real
Even though its real such as STB1(japan tech tree) in real life,it have gun horizontal and vertical stab
But in WoT
That system was gone
One more thing worth to mention. Big concert lighting companies supply their equipment to the military to highlight drones at night.
It's a WW2 style - searchlights and machine guns. And it works
I almost wonder if they are going to start sending up barrage balloons. Has anyone considered Israel's Iron Dome?
@@kennethng8346 Well that's the problem, Iron Dome type systems costs too much, they're shooting down $100 dumb rockets with $10000 anti-air systems
@@kennethng8346 Iron Dome has a couple of problems:
- it exists in a single instance
- it is highly classified
- it does not always cope with the protection of little Israel, and with the huge Ukraine, everything is worse
- its price is greater than the budget of Ukraine for the next 200 years
@@Propidium-Iodide Ukraine doesn't pay... it lives on charity
@@1224chrisng $150,000 per shot. Also it might not be very good for Ukraine. They have been used for ballistic missiles which fly much much higher altitudes and the algorithm is different to anti cruise missiles which this is. The radar might not work and it only work from one direction afaik.
its not about how much do you spend to shoot it down, its about how much you save by making sure it doesnt reach the target
Of course, but there is a question of economic feasibility over time.
I get what you mean, but sometimes it isn't worth saving the target in the long run, Wich is the unfortunate truth of some situations.
Not if the cost disparity means you run out of defense before they run out of offense. In essence these drones are targeting anti-air defense in addition to targets on the ground.
@@KenMathis1 For Russia's part they mostly seems to target civilians.
And how much it costs to shoot it down. It's not a black or white situation like you described.
Iran supplying drones to Russia: HOW DARE YOU!
US and entire west supplying everything including mercenaries to Ukraine: so brave! applaud!
There is only one way going forward -- Use the Win-Win Cooperation principle to work with everyone, including your enemies. No one can afford to have enemies.
Without bias! Iranian engineers are WONDERFUL!
In spite of all sanctions on Iran, they managed to come up with such a wonderful piece of machine!!
Afterall , they are persians .
They develop tools of terror.
Also the germans back in WWII were successful to invent some of the most amazing machinary and blueprints for the most crazy of ideas, but they didnt invest in other fields like other countries do. Like Iran does right now - it doesn't invest a mere fraction in welfare, or agricultural needs.
This is to be expected eventally from a country/regime that knows only to sow hatred and bellicose into its people and weakened countries surrounding them.
@@eladon19153 may be because your stupid governments are always putting pressure on them so they have no choice only to defend themselves???????
arent you totally minimizing irans need for a powerful military, as it is the only thing keeping "democracy" at bay there? if iran had invested in welfare and agriculture, like before British Patroleums coup in the 40s or 50s i think, then they would be another iraq or afghanistan. @@eladon19153
@user-fj5sy8lb7wHence the term, 'Without bias'. I think what he meant was, without going into the details...if we actually look into the engineering part only... it's a great piece of engineering done with a very low price tag. It's upto the user whether they use it to help humanity and destroy it but the engineering part still holds true.
Putting everything aside, the Iranians/Persians have always been geniuses. A resourceful people.
I want to point out the creativity of Iranians, which everyone misses out on. they created cheap asf weapons that can bypass or overwhelm complex multi-million dollar patriots (in Saudi Arabia) and s-300s (in Ukraine) and hit their objectives with relative success. It is really interesting to see that Iranians have successfully moved in the opposite direction in terms of the quality and quantity of military products compared to their western counterparts.
Western weapons are all about charging the customer extortionate amounts of money for weapons that are on par to much cheaper versions from other places.
Unfortunately, when all the anti aircraft missiles are used up, the weapons manufacturers are happy since it means they can supply new replacements for billions of $, which in turn makes them alot of money.
The only problem is the lag between expending all your munitions and getting replacements.
If Hezbollah used this technique against Israel, combined with cheap rockets, Israel would be out of munitions in a couple of days, and be completely defenseless.
It will probably happen in the near future.
Lmao would be fun to see countries finally move to ultra cheap warfare before we get bombed back to the stone age or something
Ukraine is not saving a single missile in this war. The problem is radar signiture. Surprisingly this drone is the most stealthy man made object right now. There was some analysis done. Despite being a propeler aircraft, radars are having problems picking it up.
Well, Iran got 7000 years of history. Israel got only 70. America approximately 250. Long live Iran.
@@muhammadhassankiyani8953 they didn't spend 7000 years building drones though
“But what does that have to do with Ukraine? Download world of tanks”
What a transition 😂
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@@NotWhatYouThink especially knowing that World of Tanks is made by Russian and Belarus company
Inserting a "War is a fun game!" advert in the middle of a technical report about a contemporary ongoing war is really f*cked up guys...
@@mr-plus 😒
@@mr-plusreal war is just a game for politician and establisment
I feel like ww2 flack guns would do this well with their proximity fuses
C- ram has variable distance-set explosive rounds like flak - they are awesome but hella expensive.
@@dparks256 you mean AHEAD?
Would probably be a good choice in this situation - and also cost effective
Collateral damage. Flack guns causes a ton of shrapnel to fling all over the sky and rain down onto the drone targets the military is supposed to be protecting.
I thought flak was for higher altitude targets where the guns couldn't be accurate enough. Low flying drones might make it hard to acquire the target.
The most sanctioned country supplying second most powerful country. Mind blowing !
I've seen lots of pictures of this thing but until this video I had no idea the *scale* of this drone. It's huge!
This drone is a test version and Iran sold to Russia for using in ukraine and find its bugs in a real battlefield. Iran has this monsters hit down technology but they wont share it for own security.
Huge compared to a fly,small compared to a fighter jet.
I can imagine the return of Flak like system to deal with swarm of UAV
Flak shells were designed for high-altitude, air-borne targets, not low-flying drones. They work by blowing up near the target and spraying shrapnel in all directions. Do that at low altitudes over residential areas, and you will do much more damage the drone could.
@@howard6433 but gun based anti air System are still probably going to return. Just look at the new skyranger system. Throwing a few 35mm airburst (or even dumb) shells against drone is just cheaper then using surface to air missiles. (But you are still totally right, that's not what flak means)
@@howard6433 Not really, 20mm short range flak was widespread in WW2, radar fused shells are WW2 tech as well and though it wasn't viable back then, it is now. Thing is, warfare has changed and having flak everywhere isn't really viable because of the expense.
When I first saw the video of some Ukrainian police officers trying to shoot down some of these drones with rifles, that was my immediate thought. Modernize Flak guns to counter relatively slow, cheap drones
Rheinmetall (the German weapons manufacturer) makes a radar controlled flak gun that has variable timed munitions in order to shoot down swarm attacks!
Last year while doing my military service I was convinced and still are that these and more advanced drones can seriously change how wars are fought.
REALLY?
Not just wars, but terrorist attacks as well. Russia is already using them against civilians, and Iran supplies terrorist groups. it's only a matter of time before a few land on a crowded marketplace or busy open street for the holidays.
I am no war expert nor any military background nor any deep knowledge of weaponry. But I have learned one thing. War is fought with 2 elements. Secular means and spirituality. A man needs to have rock solid resolve to go into battle against an enemy. Weapons help break a man's resolve. They become too dependent on them for victory. But there is another deeper meaning - much deeper. Those who feel the need for victory is the central goal of a war also help break a man's resolve. Because, if victories could be permanent then ancient empires will still be ruling us today. So, what is a victory? What is a loss?
US won WW2 with use of WMDs or nuclear bombs, for example, but is in constant fear or pain or agony of China, Russia, Iran and others may pose a challenge to it's reign. Fearful can never enjoy victories nor they can be truly free. US victory is hollow. An already expired short lived victory. US won but at the cost of demonstrating human evil nature of creating total human annihilation type event! A true loss! You could check out Carl Sagan, a popular scientist, documentary on this subject on how science has created threats to humanity!
True victory is understanding these basic truths of war and struggle of man. Those who master these will win even if they lose in a war! World will perceive that as a victory but heros who die defending an idea become heros by offering greatest sacrifice - their lives. How long will victors live? How long Earth will live? What is that victory or loss in scheme of things? This is Eternal truth!
I would argue we should be convinced of these facts and then go into battle no matter how resourceful or not we are. There are such men the world knows as 'Taliban'. Because every man who seeks truth and true liberation is at heart, mind and soul a 'Taliban' - and not what news tell us to hear, see, and believe!
In this are signs for those who reflect.
It's crazy just how accurate some of call of duty black ops 2's predictions for warfare in 2025 were. It was meant to be far out there, yet now we have kamikaze drones, cyberwarfare, etc.
Pull up some vids of some AI controlled drone light shows.
"And children, that's exactly how modern battlefield's low altitude airspace become a Touhou bullet hell."
Just when I thought I had seen everything, it seems like we soon will witness drones dogfighting😅
They will drop ne5s over the other drones
Imagine that😂
I like how the video switches between Iran drones and "WORLD OF TANKS!" within seconds
US/NATO still bamboozled with Shahed 131 and 136... this is the first level, then there is the Shahed 191, Arash-2, Meraj-521, etc... Seems like Iran is ahead in the game of drones!
یه بوس بده
a couple of Shaheds were destroyed near my location. Can attest: they are goddamn loud
how nice of them... they warn people from far away🤣
It's the Iranians to blame. They are attacking peaceful countries one by one.
@@oneManDev but the United States gets a pass got it
@@Skyhulk95 war crimes don't matter if you win ww2 proved this :D
@@Just_A_Random_Desk If that's true then it's perfect time to get rid of Iranian dictators for good this time. Saddam style lol 🤣🤣
I was hoping for a mention of the Rheinmetall Oerlikon Skyguard system. It shoots 35mm airburst ammunition against drones. I'm sure it would be effective against these Iranian drones
This too has a problem of range
@@milespaxevanos-evans8955 it's purposely built to fit existing 35mm air defense cannons, and other legacy hardware. It can be used to engage targets at distances above 1km.
It is certainly enough to be able to cover larger areas.
@@Argosh oh, it's certainly better, but this doesn't make it as good as guided projectiles.
Overpriced garbage.
@@milespaxevanos-evans8955 guided projectiles probably would cost more to shoot than the drone itself, probably
At the time of night this weapon is very effective. Increase its altitude around 2 to 2.5 km so that it cant be reach by bullets. And indeed difficult to intercept by radar.
@timemachine194 are you high?
@@ghaithahmed1159 u must be high on pcp dude, the gepard is probably the best counter to the shahed
@@nos4me with the range of 2.5km and with an old radar inside cities (which is the worst place possible for this type of air defense)
It would be as effective as mines on top of road for tanks which is easy to deny
and the situation of Ukrainian electricity says alot about their air defense
An audio detection system could be effective to locate and track drones. Similar systems have been used to find snipers.
Raised wire nets can also be effective to protect assets.
Snipers don't move as fast as drones, by the time you hear it you have less than a minute till it sucide bomb its target.
@@Soshiaircon91 thats why you would have multible lines of audio detectors first ones just behind front lines.
Calm down kid, complete your homework first.
The loud sound was intentionally added to Kamikazee to put fear in the civilians; therefore, if they will reduce the sound your suggestion will put it to nothing.
open mesh wire cladding.. chain LINK fences with 1/2 meter gaps. cheap AF
Its breathtaking how iran managed to get so far ahead of the US in kamikaze drone technology
No they didn't. Its all lies and propaganda from Iran. Many of those shots in this video were toy scale models!!! Lmfao.
Don't think so. They showed themselves ineffective against military targets and were used to attack civilian infrastructure with fixed coordinates. I am not sure that US army were interested in such type of weapon.
@@vitaliydiachenko5947 they are cheap and cant be targeted by older SAMs deployed by Ukraine. And hitting fixed civilian infrastructure can be devastating as you see now with Ukraine energy network almost completely disabled. hitting fixed targets can sometimes be more damaging than mobile military targets
@@nazeem8680 I mean that attacking civilian targers is not a US army priority, that's why such drones were not developed. So I don't think that iran managed to get ahead.
@@vitaliydiachenko5947 actually they are ! they hitting civilian target for 20 years in iraq
8:15 Please do remember, with the cram, only every 4th bullet is a tracer(meaning it is visible) so it is firing more then just what we can see here.
I know war is not fun. But I like how Warfare has change the lst 20 years. How big fights back in WW2 are nowerdays impossible cause of drones. How there is just a fight between UAV vs UAV because they are so effective. It will be intresting to see how diffrent countries devolp things against drone attacks or if they change morder warfare so far that no one in 20 to 50 years sit in a fighter jet or a tank anymore.
Well... This is how skynet will born... Humans are doomed.
From WW2 gholiat land RC becoming flying RC
UAV exploding civilian infrastructure and homes. I don't think it's much better.
It is far from "just" a fight between UAVs. There have still been tens of thousands of military and civilian casualties in this war so far, and the killing shows no signs of ceasing anytime soon. Never forget that at the end of the day it is always individual humans who are suffering in warfare, no matter how "clinical" it seems on the surface.
Black ops 2 swarms
buckshot : range 450 yards / 411 meters, price 1$ per cartridges, "weapon system" 200$ (on the cheap side), training : aim and pull the trigger..., can't be jammed with cyber or other external means like an EMP, lasers... safer to use than AK in populated area
This problem was already solved by the British in the World Wars. Balloons tethered to cables. Sometimes hundreds of them at different heights around one important place. It is cheap, passive and worked very well. The balloons can range in any size and would use hydrogen, this way an exploding balloons will bring attention. The other thing was netting. Disgarded fishing neys work very well and are easy to obtain.
I feel like the Medusa noise pollution sensors developed by Bruitparif could easily be repurposed to detect and track UAVs and low-flying aircraft. The UFO hunting cameras being developed by Sky360 might also be an economical sensor to deploy.
They're small, comparatively cheap, and weather resistant, so setting them up broadly could be feasible. And then after the war, Ukraine will have tools to monitor their airspace and enforce environmental regulations.
Yep, and during any attack Russia will have a bunch of Gerum2 doing figure 8 racetrack flights on the way to, around and over the target areas, it'll be an utter sh*tshow..
@@Veldtian1 just another target to take out, no reason couldn't track and destroy the decoys as well. Prioritizing closer threats as required
@@Veldtian1 You realize those sensors can triangulate multiple vehicles simultaneously, right? They're designed to sit on lampposts and automate issuing fines to noisy vehicles.
No reason you can't flip them upside down and calibrate them for aircraft of interest.
I've never heard of those before! That's interesting. :)
The (USA) America calls it "Liberation" instead of "Invasion". That was what US call it in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, Yemen, Somalia and the list goes on... Why the double standard? Confused... Please enlighten. Genuine question...
Instances of the United States "liberated" or overthrowing, or attempting to overthrow, a foreign government since the Second World War. (* indicates successful ouster of a government)
China 1949 to early 1960s
Albania 1949-53
East Germany 1950s
Iran 1953 *
Guatemala 1954 *
Costa Rica mid-1950s
Syria 1956-7
Egypt 1957
Indonesia 1957-8
British Guiana 1953-64 *
Iraq 1963 *
North Vietnam 1945-73
Cambodia 1955-70 *
Laos 1958 *, 1959 *, 1960 *
Ecuador 1960-63 *
Congo 1960 *
France 1965
Brazil 1962-64 *
Dominican Republic 1963 *
Cuba 1959 to present
Bolivia 1964 *
Indonesia 1965 *
Ghana 1966 *
Chile 1964-73 *
Greece 1967 *
Costa Rica 1970-71
Bolivia 1971 *
Australia 1973-75 *
Angola 1975, 1980s
Zaire 1975
Portugal 1974-76 *
Jamaica 1976-80 *
Seychelles 1979-81
Chad 1981-82 *
Grenada 1983 *
South Yemen 1982-84
Suriname 1982-84
Fiji 1987 *
Libya 1980s
Nicaragua 1981-90 *
Panama 1989 *
Bulgaria 1990 *
Albania 1991 *
Iraq 1991
Afghanistan 1980s *
Somalia 1993
Yugoslavia 1999-2000 *
Ecuador 2000 *
Afghanistan 2001 *
Venezuela 2002 *
Iraq 2003 *
Haiti 2004 *
Somalia 2007 to present
Honduras 2009 *
Libya 2011 *
Syria 2012
Ukraine 2014 *
Hong Kong 2019
2014 - 2022 - 6 countries yet to verify.
Pakistan 2022 *
Haiti 2022 *
Serbia 2022
c'mon man!! which side are you? no one should dare to ask it.🤐
Because its a double standard they can get away with because they control the media more or less and are the most powerful militarily and other nations don't want to piss them off.
This comment is trying to dissuade criticism about the Russian invasion of Ukraine, correct?
If we are comparing the Ukrainian invasion, why did you bring up instances like Hong Kong? Did the US bomb Hong Kong in 2019? See how that's a dishonest comparison?
Normally, a person would think soft-power and political pressure is much different than dropping bombs. Much of your list is conflated like this.
>> There is one main difference for the rest of your examples- *the US did not annex any of those countries*.
Even when the US invaded Iraq and "stole their oil", the US never stole oil. It went back to the global market and Iraq was able to profit by selling oil contracts to numerous countries- unwittingly for the US, much of the oil contracts were bought by China.
There isn't much confidence the same will happen if Russia takes over Ukraine. I think the world expects another resource stripping like what the Soviets did to East Germany.
To reiterate the main point, there is no double standard because the US never invaded then annexed a sovereign country.
Putin has already claim annexation of seized Ukrainian territory.
Your context is off; it is not a "drone" -there is no pilot or AI on a base somewhere controlling it.
You put in coordinates and it just goes there; and apparently there is a way to update those co-ords by radio but that is it.
Switchblades loiters over the battlefield with sensors pointing down -the soldiers have receivers that they watch the feed with and if they see a target; fly down on to it.
Bayraktars are small planes that are controlled by pilots and computers from a base.
@Absolute Mad Chad The Shahed-136 is completely autonomous. There is no pilot input after launch. These are not drones, but cheap cruise missiles. They do not loiter.
A "drone" if just a UAV.
The shahed has no pilot inside it, therefore it is unmanned. It flies, therefore it is an aerial veichle.
A UAV can be fully autonomous.
@Absolute Mad Chad I need a link to chat channel, chug/uhg threads are shit.
@Absolute Mad Chad Thanks bro.
I've seen some pretty pathetic attitudes from the refugees, making TikTok videos complaining that the places they're given to live in aren't up to Ukrainian standards.
Not to mention the whining about shaheds while similtaneously posting videos of them dropping grenades/mortar shells on people from drones.
@@daviddavidson2357 "The shahed has no pilot inside it, therefore it is unmanned. It flies, therefore it is an aerial veichle."
Therefore; paper planes are drones? or if they need propulsion -how about RC toys?
Either you are woefully ignorant or you are trying really hard to push some weird bias/agenda.
Why it is so cheap: it uses bike engine, not aircraft-class engine. It has no communication or remote control capability. It just flies to the preset target without any ground control like missile. So simple so cheap and light. So it can carry heavier warhead with much more explosive power. Way cheaper and better than US switch blade drone which requires elaborate remote ground control.
They are not kamikaze drones any more than a missile is a kamikaze missile or a bullet is a kamikaze bullet. There is no person on board making the ultimate sacrifice. These are just explosive drones.
I think in some cases barrage balloon/nets like ww2 could close off flight paths of the drones
They would just change the altitude and fly above them.
@@bubba842 That does make them more vulnerable to anti-aircraft fire, as they would be slower in the climb and the higher altitude allows more anti-air systems to be in the line of sight.
Looks like the Gepard is going to make a comeback
They have been successful sofar!
Hahahaha...the Gepard. A colossal hunk of junk even back in the mid 80s when I served as a Kraftfahrer (driver). Luckily they resigned us to a Leo 2 later on.
@@Dr.MSC.W.Krueger Rheinmetall is selling s new AA tank now.
@@Dr.MSC.W.Krueger It's like fashion. Sometimes things go back into fashion. An gepard is really effective against a threat that did not exist when it was being developed.
War is hell but i gotta respect the iranian that develop such cheap drones that can destroy multi million dollar systems, if only they could make the engine much quiter it would be devestating.
“Kamikaze” implies that a pilot did a suicide mission. The word should not be used to describe an unmanned drone.
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While small arm ammunition's is cheap, "bullets" that can shoot down drones are not cheap and still cost much more than the drone itself. C-RAM for example, fires 20mm HEIT-SD at 4500 round per minute, that's a whopping 75 rounds per second, one short burst and $100,000 is gone. Anti-aircraft guns use rounds equipped with a proximity fuse which is even more expensive.
The second C-RAM fires, it's exposed, it will take out a few drones at first but quickly getting destroyed by more drones. Remember, drones only need to overcome 2km distance to take out an anti-air gun, even at a 50:1 kill ratio drone wins.
"Drones are loud,so we hear them and report them"
Drone operator: *Flies higher*
If they fly higher they can be detected by radar earlier.
They're not stealth. but the curvature of the earth can keep them undetected when flown low.
I think SPAAs (Self Propelled Anti-Aircraft) would be a big help. Something like the German Gepard or American LAV-AD could move with the asset it's protecting and even actively react to the current need. It's cheep to use like the C-RAM but significantly more mobile. And I think the LAV-AD actually uses the same gun as the C-RAM.
Blud thinks its war thunder
@@nykytadamore8438 jokes on you, Ukraine is actually doing this now.
its a joke chill@@MberEnder
@@nykytadamore8438 quite
I guess it’s now a good time to crack out those Bofors and Orelikons that were sat in their warehouses for over 70 years
How do crowd spotters work at night or when it is heavily overcast? And what if Russia puts mufflers on those drones? But the big question is why it is OK for the USA to give weapons to Ukraine and to pay their soldiers and the burial costs of their soldiers but it is not OK for Iran to sell weapons to Russia?
This is what they need for these, Oerlikon Ahead® Air Burst Munition.
If the drones are that loud, shouldn't it be pretty easy to trilaterate them with strategically positioned microphones placed all over Ukrainian cities? We have a system called Shotspotter that can detect the signature sounds of gunfire. Surely these noisy motors produce their own signature sound that can be isolated in real-time. Sounds like a much more advanced and reliable method than relying on crowdsourced, civilian infra.
This is a war do you know how much noise there is missles are also fired so which do you listen to
I'm sure it would be incredibly easy to run a country-wide audio detection system in a country that just lost 30% of its energy infrastructure.
Two words: too expensive.
what is certain is the success of this Iranian kamikaze drone has succeeded in making Ukraine live in the dark and their war equipment destroyed and many Ukrainian soldiers dead. talisman is bunos for russia🤣🤣🤣
@@boryang3372 the only success is that drones distract air defence.
But we can handle that.
To be honest if I was a government I would buy those drones.
They should consider an updated app, that listens for the distinct audio characteristics of the shahed-136. Setup a few in known locations, work out the timing difference in audio arrival, calculate location based off the timing differences, do that over time to get a tracking solution. Use to target their defenses.
Setup a perimeter of groups of three of these spaced a couple of kilometers apart, assuming that they are effective enough to detect at similar distances that people can hear them.
Automated Shahed tracking solution for the cost of a few hundred cheap consumer phones.
Easier said than done.
Expensive and time consuming to develop the algorithm, and far too cheap and easy to counter in return. Changing the materials or the geometry or even measurements and number of the propellers would change the sound characteristics drastically. And if you have multiple different patterns of propellers, all running on the same platform of drone, then this entire method is completely undone. I like your thinking though.
Iranians are learning to use silensers to make kamakazi drone muted.
Very informativ video,thamsk for not putting bad music in it...
If the bomb drones are flaying low above 2 km and slow up to 200 km/h it can be shoot by AA baterie with guns from 20 to 40 mm equiped with thermal sighting with few shoots of expirience AA crews that costs max 1/25 value of cheapest Iranian drones wich has been done in many cases by UA AA defence.
I always had this idea of using a REALLY powerful spark gap radio to jam everything that uses a frequency on the EM spectrum. It’s why they are illegal to use; they are so old they scramble and interfere with everything that we use nowadays.
I think Palmer Luckey is the only one on the right track to use a swarm of drones to attack a swarm of drones. Cheap tactics requires cheap gadgets to fend off.
08:53 that dude created a VR headset that will cancel your existence irl if you die in a video game 😂 I watched a video about it a couple of hours ago on Hugo Talks channel so it’s quite the coincidence he’s popped up twice today for me
He didn't. It's false information, as while he designed a concept for a VR headset that kills you if you die ingame, it is only a concept, and was literally only created as an homage to SAO, which takes place in 2022.
Actually the West know how to penetrate all this drone's,if they want too.there are lots of all air defense like CRAM air defense for close fight and anti drones
Russia: MODERN AND SEMI MODERN WILL RULE! HAHAH-
Ukraine: wwii tactics go whee
The one time Russia gets effective weapons that they can rely on, it is not made by them. That should tell you about the state of the Russian army.
It's cheaper to buy than to switch off production from small munitions or just military supplies in general. Russia has always had sanctions, they were never in a spot to produce freely. The same is to be said with most nations other than China or the US
Production is not high, so when using a lot you need help. All NATO wars everybody was supplying everybody, so it was only a matter of time before they will need more manufacturing capabilities
ah yes you surely dont get your information from western news tha are as trustworthy as the Russian news
Lol it’s a joke mate. Calm down.
Say hello to S-500, TOS-1, izdeliye305, calibers, Iskanders and others
I wonder if you could just strap a $3k Jetcat engine to a $3k fibreglass model F18 and program Ardupilot to take it up to altitude and then enable a secondary program to fly toward these drones. You could probably detect them with a phased microphone array and use a low pass filter to listen for the 2 stroke piston engines and ignore the jet engines used by the other friendly drones.
The expensive part of making that kind of equipment is not making the thing fly but making sure that it can detect enemy drones and fire weapons automatically. Sensors can be very expensive. Also need to remember the thing that flys with a jet engine is going to be so loud making its own microphone impossible to listen for other crafts.
The USAF has a squad of ai driven, pilotless F-16s based in Florida. On TH-cam. Most videos are old, they have gotten quiet about program for some reason.
It would work until someone realize they can strap $3k Jetcat engine to a new version of Shahed drone.
1. I've only seen one incident of Geran-2 (Shahed-136) interception until now, the very same in this and all other video clips: 0:46
2. I've never seen a swarm attack by Geran-2 (Shahed-136).
3. Glad to receive genuine data proving othervice.
PS: January 2023, and still has not seen either a swarm attack by Geran-2 (Shahed-136) or another genuine example of an interception.
Any videos of hw to stop the Fab gliding bombs
What goes up, must comes down. So if lots of ppl keep shooting the drones, some bullets may kill other civilians when the bullets travelling down. 🤔
That's hilarious, I guarantee the drone is compatible with both GPS and GLONASS. But it's now russian since they changed the setting :)
The crowdsourcing app is totally brilliant. I hope they get the autonomous drone interceptor drones. They should design their own drone intercepting drones that can be made easily at home with manual television guidance. A two-stage design powered by model rocket engines, where one motor launches a high-speed, airplane-like drone with a short-range nanny-cam TV transmitter and radio control. It just does a couple of turns looking for the target and glides back if nothing is seen. If it sees the target, the second rocket accelerates into the other drone, piloted by remote control. We had prototypes like this shooting down helicopters in the 1980's. Its short range, and you either have to know the drone is coming, or be there all the time waiting to launch when you hear the drone approach. The rocket makes it very fast.
Use the app; get targeted to play World of Tanks. Why do I get the feeling this app is a hoax? Easier to find everyone if everyone uses the same app all at the same time.
Hoax or another psyop on the pile?
The crowdsourcing app is brilliant if you have a reliable wireless coverage and electricity.
Crowdsourcing only work as long as cellular connection is alive. And a cellular tower sending out its radio waves is like a perfect homing beacon for a drone.
@@Wordbird69 most definetely a psy op
Such a beautiful Iranian drone. India should buy some as soon as possible. 🇮🇳❤️🇮🇷
it's not too expensive to shoot down, it's that they can't shoot them down
go to the warzone clown
I like how we are like "a bunch of morons" trying to figure out everything. see how Ukraine has become a huge weapon market. The USA loves Iran, without Iran how they would sell a couple of trucks for half a billion dollars?
Stupid question : could it be possible to create arty guns that fire 40 mm big shotgun cartridges ? I mean, it you can hit a little bird at a hunt with this, that might work for a drone at a bigger scale ?
Very limited range as shotguns are smoothbores
It would be interesting to see what happens if you laser these drones. I'm sure that they're made of cheap plastic, so it might just be interesting to try out some new laser weapons on them. Plus, it would be a lot cheaper than shooting a missile or gun at them.
i feel like if the lasers are strong enough to take down the drones they are strong enough to permanently blind people which is illegal
@@fhudufin Sure, you dont want civilians to have this kind of equipment, but most military gear is capable of doing much more harm than blinding.
“Hostile Hunter Killer Drone Inbound!”
Are thousands of people just peppered with c ram bullets?
this channel deserves more subs than what they got now
Signal jamners or disruption towers could be good counters.
Shaheds have no connection to their headquarters, so you can't disrupt them .
Iran must be held accountable for all these attacks. It's the right time to overthrow their dictator.
ali khameini will stay lmao. focuse on others first like azerbaijan and all the war crimes they have commitef against armenians
When do we hold the US accountable for war crimes in the middle east? They invented drone warfare and drone war crimes
@@declaringpond2276 They didn't hurt a single civilian intentionally. Guys like Saddam, Soleimani, etc they deserved it.
@@geediosman6415 They commited war crimes more than a century ago. So yea the people who committed the genocide are dead. So what should we do bring them back from their graves and then put them on trial?
@@oneManDev what are you on about, we literally left like not even 2 years ago, and Yemen is still getting bombed by US weapons.
How about a CIWS like system that, instead of using radar, uses, well, microphones and a video camera, they seem to be the right way to zero in on a drone. Fire bird shot or some other shotgun shell and you have a cheap drone destroyer that won't rain bullets on the ground. Shell shot pellets are harmless by the time they hit the ground.
Who will win:
-A multi-billion military industrial complex
-One spicy dorito
I think the most cost-effective and safest way to combat loitering drones are explosive radio programmable ammo systems such as Bofors, Pasars... 40 mm rounds full of tungsten balls, they don't come down, won't hurt anyone on the ground and you use few bullets to bring down one drone. They are not so cheap systems, but they have other uses on the battleground, not only shooting down cheap stuff.
Here's the fact:the Russian uav parts were from USA and other countries that bought from Amazon!
Chips from america and motor from austria
@@abcdeeer lol
China probably has billiosn of old computer chips alone, as chineese modernise the old cheap stuff can be sold off, same with any country, the whole world uses billions of cpus, gpus and other chips, you can buy 5 dollar cpus on ebay or ali express ahhaHha
I wonder if this will lead to flak being redeployed as a countermeasure
It seems like this would be the perfect situation to employ CRAM systems, things like General Dynamics' Phalanx, Rheinmetall's Mantis or Signaal's Goalkeeper CIWS
Germany already had send flak tanks. I think those are in high demand right now.
@@HedgehogZone I'm not talking anti-aircraft systems I'm talking actual proper C-RAM systems.
@@richardmillhousenixon ☠️☠️☠️cost of operate c ram system
Gepards spend ammunition too fast and are unreliable.
“Kamikaze drone” is just a fancy term for missile
missile?
You can take 250 shahed instead of one bayraktar😐
Going to say it again because it needs to be said. Nets/chain-link fencing and soft / passive defences similar to WWI Barrage balloons would be quite effective.
You could use lasers.
This would require detection but shooting a laser is much less expensive than missiles and have a range much longer than bullets.
shooting it would be less expensive. But manufacturing it would've been expensive. Also lasers that can burn people or permanently blind people are warcrimes and illegal under the Geneva conventions, and multiple wartime laws. Considering that a laser that can burn skin isn't capable to burn through steel. Plus lasers that could burn a person of blind them permanently would be a breach on the Geneva conventions. Lasers that are powerful enough to pierce through steel can also blind the soldier who is firing or anyone looking directly into the laser beam since it would create a large beam of concentrated light that can blind anyone who looks at it like a mini sun. Soo.... Yeah you get the point.
with what electricity?
@@ooffilipinopatriot7605aye, once the enemy knows this they'll just choose flight path between high residential buildings.
Economical sense of using a weapon is determined mostly by the damage the attacker would do otherwise, rather than the relative cost compared to the attacking device. The unbalance should, however, trigger development of cheaper, more targeted weapons to mitigate the thread.
That will not serve the industrial complex in US.
Hey 👋 hi from Iran 🇮🇷 peace and love to the whole world 🌎 ❤️
Those police men didn’t shot down that kamakazi drone. They failed to shot down & that drone managed to hit target.
They found Farsi writings belonging to the QC person at the factory, inside a part of the engine. Proves it was Iranian built.
The best way to fight a drone, is with a drone. We've been doing that for at least a decade.
You must have seen the drones that shoot a web at the target drone, which tangles in their props and causes them to crash.
I'm Iranian and we know damn well that we made these but politics just work differently. As for tangling them, they would then drop on civilians. Not a good idea. That's the reason asymmetrical warfare works!
@@garshasb I provided the example of a legal proof. Not heresy.
There are other methods. One that forced the American spy drone to land and be captured by Iranians.
An example of such electronic warfare, is to direct fake GPS signals via a handheld EM rifle and overwhelm the GPG receiver onboard with new fake coordinates.
The drone has to be in the line of sight of the EM antenna. That's why they pick top of the hills as best places for radar and radio activity.
Stinger missile MANPAD is the best defense against this drone @$200K a pop.
It's not a problem throwing money at won't solve.
@@piconano Well then it would be considered Attrition Warfare. Remember the Iranian drone arsenal is much more versatile than that. The Saheds can work as a swarm to overwhelm the enemy defense system and the likes of Arash 2 are so fast and destructive that will definitely cause escalation which would result in more money spent. Of course these can be used in sequence where the Shaheds would get rid of the enemy defense and then the Arash 2s would strike(or any Russian/Iranian missile in that case if needed). To add to that, Iran has surveillance type drones like Mohaajer 6 which could be used as an observer unit and they actually have a higher altitude than most American surveillance drones(there are videos of them flying above the mentioned drones unnoticed) and there are other stealth-type surveillance drones that captured footage of the US carriers in the Persian Gulf back in 2016 and the footage was released in 2019 and they basically go unnoticed. When used in combination, the Mohaajer 6 can act as the optics for the surrounding Shaheds or other drones to guide them. Basically our military/security doctrines are based on asymmetrical warfare and we also practice this with our marine forces as well. The current publicized methods are designed to overwhelm the defense system and cause attrition through escalation while resulting in a relatively high success rate. Let's hope peace to the world!
Managing to hit one of these carrier trucks with a switchblade drone might just blow the whole cargo, problem is finding the trucks.
Even if you find the truck, the location of truck is in deep Russia my friend (or far from site of switch blade reach).
What a joke...
Then again this is why the german Oerlikon AA systems would be super useful
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On a side note, Those drone trucks seem....familiar.
The lesson from this is that centralization of anything makes you vunerable
Its not expensive when you are using the right weapon and saving assets and personnel from destruction
tell that to the economics .. in a long term fight you don't want to go bunkrupt .. the Russian learned the lesson and stopped using expensive cruise missiles for everything
@@NoobGamingXXX
In a long term fight, you would have counter UAS capabilities developed by then
@@verdebusterAP ok then let's go counter a 20k$ drone shower for one year by 150k to 1million rocket a piece, and let's see if you have anything left to develop a can of soda by then!
@@NoobGamingXXX
Right we can't engage that 20K drone carrying 60-100lbs warhead which is literally enough to shred any vehicle as well inflict major damage just because it costs too much no one ever said
You either use what you have or lose major assets or take damage
its that simple
Like I said
n a long term fight, you would have counter UAS capabilities developed by then
Israel's iron dome has the same problem. They're something like 100 million for a single set up.
Well, they've developed the Iron Beam, using a laser. This will likely be effective for Israel, where it's rarely cloudy or foggy, and the attacker is launching from one tiny area (Gaza). These drones are programmable (can approach a target from any direction), and Russia could simply launch them when visibility's bad (which happens a lot in eastern Europe).
Rheinmetall Skyranger is designed precisely for this , with its AHEAD ammo its deadly for drones
great video. great channel. really informative.
Imagine 20k of these coming in. No way to win
The Iranian drones are just guided munitions like German V1s in WW2. Calling them "kamikaze" drones is like calling ballistic missiles kamikaze missiles.
Ok and?
@@imustbust998 like missiles, they aren't drones in the sense that we are familiar with, with an operator controlling it and picking targets.
@@imustbust998 What give you the idea that they are stand-off weapons, or even have that capability? They are slow, loud, easy to spot, and easy to shoot down. Why would anyone "loiter" these things near its target? Why would anyone design such a weapon to even "loiter"? To lower its chances of success?
@@imustbust998 exactly the same as these Iranian "drones".
@@imustbust998 they are basically slow cruise missiles.
Can't believe you didn't mention a single SPAAG system Ukrainians are already using shooting down Shahead drones like ZSU-23-4 , Gepard or Tunguska
So why is Ukraine without power?
Ukraine should start development of their own war drones.
In what factory?
@@Mavve69 maybe zelensky can open one of his TV studios being a PAID ACTOR AND ALL
I think it's too late for that now
There's nothing Ukrainian made... It's either Russian or western
They’ve got drones. NATO sends them all the equipment they could possibly need.
The “real” economic analysis of anti-drone defense is not whether the defensive weapon is more expensive than the drone, but rather whether the defensive weapon is more expensive than the damage the weapon is likely to cause. That’s why air defenses are typically located around “high value” targets.
As if Russian can develop these things while making Rd 180 rocket engines, what baffles me is that low tech is more difficult than high tech
I think the solution to this problem is signal jammers
1 round from the C-Ram costs $30 and shoots an average of 1k of rounds per salvo.
Very interesting video, thanks for sharing your insights. In my opinion, even C-RAM cost about $2,500.00 usd per bullet. At 7 bullets per second, assuming an average of 5 seconds to hit one target. A swamp of 20 drones, $70,000 x 20 = 1.4 millions usd. It’ll take less than 30 seconds to travel 1 mile. C-RAM will cost too much too.
Bro, it's $25 a round. Where the hell are you getting $2500 from?
Hearing the cost for these missiles and weapons systems makes me wonder the real reason behind not just this war, but any war. If you want to find the culprit behind any crime - "follow the money".