purchased this due to missing out on the Rough Ryder production last time. didn’t realIze it was larger but you’ve convinced me to have at least one camp knife in my collection that isn’t a SAK
You may know by now, but. David Michael Canterbury (born September 19, 1963) is a survival expert who co-starred on the reality television show Dual Survival for two seasons (2010-11) which aired on the Discovery Channel.[1] He is also an author, publishing Bushcraft 101 in 2014 (which made The New York Times Best Seller list),[2] Survivability for the Common Man (2011), and Advanced Bushcraft (2015). In 2015 Canterbury co-starred in a survival series called Dirty Rotten Survival, which aired on the National Geographic Channel.
I’ve used this to whittle projects and to make a leather sheath.Dave had this knife made with his changes to get it into the hands of the people who couldn’t afford higher priced knives is my understanding.he collaborated for the extra size and length of the blades plus the awl.for the price this knife can do a lot if the user has the skills to put it to the tasks.
Awesome video Tobias I’ve been wanting to do a video of my Remington camp tool!!!!!! I’ll have to shoot a video because I really do love that piece...... thanks bud!!!!!
2 years now since this video was made, the MR468 has changed a little bit. Mine came in a dark reddish brown, the shield is centered nicely, and the Bail dousn't look as robust being fairly thin round wire, flattened at the ends where it is attached to the pin. Great Video!! : )
I purchased the Rough Rider Kamp King and it fell apart in my hands when I tried to open a can with it. I'm assuming it would be the same case with this. They're fun to look at, but they are in no way usable in reality.
Really surprised that Dave Canterbury has anything to do with this knife! He is all about the fixed blade and does a lot with Morakniv. Had the opportunity to meet and talk with him a bit at Blade Show West 2019 at the Mora table! Thanks for showing us this one Tobias!!
I bought this knife because im a big Dave Canterbury fan.. mine seems to be a little lighter in color than yours. my shield is pretty centered maybe a tad off. Dave is a pretty well known outdoorsman bushcrafter. i may use this not sure yet. got it mainly for my collection. only thing weird to me on mine is the awl. It is not fully sharpened. the first maybe half is dull then has a sharp edge then a tiny dull spot again.
I don't know anything about Dave Canterbury, either, but as someone with a modicum of experience camping out of both a backpack and a car, I feel like the design of the classic Kamp King (and hence the embiggened Scout King) is a throwback to times when most people were car camping, bringing with them bottles of beer and soda as well as many canned food items. To a modern "survivalist" or even backpacker, the tools on the Victorinox Hunter would be much more useful. I can't imagine a self proclaimed survival expert endorsing a classic camp-style knife in this day and age, no matter how large. It is interesting from a collector's standpoint, I suppose, but I can't imagine trudging off into the woods with a pocket knife that is so limited in its versatility when there are far better options.
My best guess is Dave actually had little if anything to do with the design. He probably just said"how much are you paying me for the use of my name", and took the money and ran like Bear Grylls did with Gerber. That is just a guess, but as much importance as he puts on everything in his kit, I can't picture him thinking a knife that is very uncomfortable in the grip would be a good idea. Could be wrong though.
I thought you might have been a little rough on Dave Canterbury, but I hung in and watched several of your videos. Based on your opinion, I ended up getting a pristine Camillus Cub Scout knife. What an excellent knife! Subscribed, Thanks!
As I mentioned, I know nothing of Dave Canterbury. I also do not know how involved he was with the design of the knife. My issues were with the knife itself. Just scaling up the size of a knife doesn’t make it better. That was my main gripe. Now SMKW has released the same knife in the Rougn Ryder line with no mention of Dave Canterbury’s involvement. That to me speaks volumes of how much Canterbury was involved with this knife.
If you don't like it then all you need to do is grind down the kick. Things like this bother me, and I've ground down the kick on countless knives. What bothers me even more is the sharp swedges that RR/SMKW has been using recently. Those get ground down as well, but that often results in a visual modification I don't care for, and it is often not possible to completely eliminate the hot-spot problem either.
@@vinniesdayoff3968 Perhaps we can convince Tobias to give it a go on this one to show how well it does (or doesn't) work. You know, for science! I did notice this blade doesn't have a traditional kick so it might not work as well as it does on blades with a more traditional kick.
just visiting this video to see again your gorgeous cattleknife with screw driver (a tool that looks more useful for a carpenter than a cowboy). I never been on a survival situation, but it happened to me being forced to do a lot of work with pocket tools to avoid an uncomfortable situation. I think that a friendly grip for the hand is much better than oversize tools which seem designed just to be abused. But you put a huge question on camp knives designers. Which tools we need today? Thank you Tobias!
I like the scout knife pattern in general, but don't own any as of yet. As far as multi bladed knives for work and camping, I'm afraid I've got a bit of a swiss army knife addiction. They just work well for me. But out of the models that you showed, I think the rough ryder kamp king is my favorite. I just really like the looks of the covers on that one. Thanks for showing all these, and for your thoughts on the scout king, buddy.
David C. Is perhaps best known as one of the guys on Dual Survival, a TV series putting 2 people in survival situations all over the world. He runs a Bushcraft survival school. Looks like he pimped out his name without checking the production run. Might be an okay knife with a few modifications. Strange that they can't get the shield centered properly.
His collaborations tend to fall flat. He made a folding hunter with Case that had a lot of quality control issues. He tried working with Leatherman and Esee, but they never came to fruition. I'm guessing because of some clash over production.
Okay, I’ve had the Scout King for a little while now. The shield is centered well and the action on the can opener (as well as all the other blades) is what I would call “just right”. It will stop at the half open, and snap open with just a little movement that direction. I love the size of it overall. But you are absolutely correct in that the can opener sticks up far too high when closed. I’m wondering if I can grind it down a bit so it sits lower when closed. (Maybe I’ll try it sometime). Overall, it looks good and does what it’s supposed to do. It fits my large hands better than the other scout knives I own.
I bought the Dave C. scout knife from SMKW not a bad knife but I kind of like the Old Timer scout knife a little better. One thing you might want to address when reviewing these scout knives is the can opener. The one on my Dave C scout was dull as hell and I had to really sharpen it. Now that having been said, I'm going to be using my trusty P-38 to open cans butshould the need arise you're gonna want that can opener really sharp
I feel like the shield being off-center is on purpose. Makes me think that maybe the bone had some fault in it, and they just covered it with the shield. My Kamp King had very lazy action similar to this knife. And the main blade fell directly on top of the awl. Very annoying
"A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man." Jebediah Springfield. Canterbury is a true outdoorsman and runs the Pathfinder School. He is a a practical person who doesn't necessarily insist on carrying the largest, most technically advanced knife, but in making the most of what you have. He often uses traditional folders and I like that he didn't feel like putting his name on an affordable Chinese knife was beneath him. He was also involved with the Mora Garberg, which I believe was their first true full tang offering. That being said, that big can opener is just silly.
I just received this knife from SMKW. The large size doesn't bother me. The blade came sharp. The cap lifter/screw driver is functional, though I'll only use the screw driver. I don't do beer, though an occasional, rare bottle of root beer, this will function fine. The can opener IS large. I learned how to use a pocket knife can opener as a kid, so this one will serve well, though...did I mention it was large? The crook in the shape is part of the function. Compare it to an older, stand alone manual can opener, they are often shaped with a crook in them for the tip to lock in place. THE PROBLEM: I always carry a "smaller" pocket knife in my pocket, in addition to a Leatherman Surge on my belt. I usually carry a SAK Tinker or Huntsman, and use the awl frequently to slightly lift a soda can lid to start it up to open for my not-so-tactile fingertips. I then use the awl to poke a hole in the top of the can before I open it, which allows for the bad habit of chugging my soda. If you drink beer, I've see this done to help reduce the suds created when pouring. In the official description, the tool is described as a "reamer with sewing eye" (I thought was an awl?). This designe is a FAIL, if used as an awl. The reamer is long and thin, which allows for the tip to BEND if putting any prying motion on it. Poking straight down, it works, but do not pry with it. I can put enough pressure on it to bend the tip by hand. For $20, I will not return it, since the the other blades are functional enough. The reamer is NOT an awl, and is very weak to basically being a complete flaw in the design.
A simple endorsement means absolutely nothing without a good review. I know Dave has had some issues in the past but putting his name on a product is just that...money. I agree about the Vic Hunter, that's the one I carried through 15 years of guiding. I had specialty knives that I used also but the Hunter was with me always. Thanks for a good look Tobias.
Case Cutlery also has two Dave Canterbury signature knives; A trapper and a 2 blade folding hunter. Both are blackwashed CV, and come with signature sheaths w/attached ferro rod.
Well the reamer has a nice sewinghole in it, main blade is a little bigger and I do like the looks on this one. But if I had the choice between the Remmington or the Marbles it would be the Remmington. Maybe if they would've placed a sawblade instead of the oversized canopener and made a canopener/caplifter combo as you suggested I would lean to the Marbles Scoutknife. If it wasn't a choice question I think I would pick it up anyway because although oversized items, it is a nice knife overall. I've missed the productionassistent, give her my regards and thank you very much.
LOL, yes, I’m not quite 7 feet tall, but I have very big gorilla hands. The action on the can opener isn’t really a problem for me. But the shield placement is. Is that weird? I just ordered this knife, and am waiting for it to arrive. We’ll see how it looks then. I ordered it mostly because it’s bigger than other scout knives. I’ll have to see how the size of the can opener works for me. I agree a saw would be nice, but I like the can opener option. Thanks for this video.
I'll be keen on your thoughts once it has arrive. I always like to hear other people's thoughts. More than once another person favorite feature is my least favorite part of a knife!
A modern camp knife in my opinion doesn't need more than a combo cap lifter/can opener, leaving space for some other useful tool. The can opener on that knife looks as though it would take a lot of swing from one end of a cut to the next, the point looks too long.
Ive got the Marbles camp knife with the blue scales. Absolutely beautiful! But then i look at my SA boy scout huntsman and thats the supreme scout knife of all time to me. But then i collect a lot of knives like my douk douk moras opinels etc not because they are the best but because they are interesting on one level or another.
I wish that SMKW would come out with a Copy of the Remington Pattern Master Camper..I do love and have had great luck with my Rough Ryders and my Kamp King
I am in the market for one since my old Cub Scout knife just fell apart after many years, but this one looks a bit large for me. I recently ordered a Marbles Stockman and was shocked at the fit and finish on such a cheap knife. There might be something wrong with it, but I haven't figured out what it could be yet. I would definitely consider another Marbles knife.
Okay, I decided, I just couldn't live without it, I just bought it. I had been looking at the Remington R4 which is about 4 inches long, and this to me is just way more interesting, so I had to have it!!
You know Tobias, sometimes you can be sort of abrasive. This is one of those times. Dave Canterbury is an outdoorsman/bushcrafter/survivalist/ trapper/......TH-camr with 673k followers. I enjoy some of his videos but would not consider myself a prepper or a groupie. I do however like almost everything about that scout knife. I'll start with the burnt bone jigged handles that you slammed. Personally, that colort and pattern is possibly my favorite type of knife handle material and I would be quite content if every knife on earth were dressed that way. The point is that Sometimes some of the things that you say can insult people as we all have different tastes and in this day and age certain factions of folks implement the cancel culture policy on ya. I also want you to know that you are my favorite knife video person and I respect your opinion even when I disagree with it and this is one of those times. I'm glad that I watch this video however because you have given me the love of camp knives with your vids an I just have to have one of these Dave Canterbury knives except for the intrusive blade etch. I like everything about it Thank you for turning us on to it. On the topic of the " enbiggend " can opener. how do you feel about your demo knives? Are they not similarly proportioned? I like your videos and I respect your opinion but this time I totally disagree. RESPECT
very useful comparison. seems like they should be making a Tobia Gibson Scout Emperor, one scout knife to rule them all. saw blade and combo tool instead. sounds reasonable enough. or just get the victorinox 111mm hunter.... though that would be spendy. which makes me wonder how inexpensive Marbles would be able to make the knife you're suggesting.
That can opener sticking up like that has too make the grip uncomfortable. I agree just making things bigger doesn't mean that they are better. I definitely agree that a wood saw would be much better. I doubt I will be getting one as it just doesn't look like a knife that would see much if any use.
Dave Canterbury is a Bushcraft/survivalist who makes TH-cam videos. He was also on shows like the Survivor and Alone I think. In one of his videos, he actually does use a SAK to say that a good camp knife should come with a blade, awl, and saw. I am really surprised that this knife does not have a saw. But if I remember correctly, he might have said that he would have a real saw so he was not concerned that pocket knife have a saw. But I agree with you, a saw would have been a better tool for this knife than having a bottle cap lifter. Also, I agree with you on the color. It looks like diarrhea brown or puke brown.
If you're interested in outdoors stuff Dave Canterbury is great to follow here on TH-cam and I definitely recommend his books as well. The tv show he was on can be ignored. Just sensational reality tv.
Very intriguing, I think I'll stick with my antique camp kings and my Victorinox Farmer. Short awl/punch isn't too useful and the can opener protruding isn't desirable. Sometimes Dave hits the mark.
Marbles branded knives are made by Rough Rider, they simply just slap another brand on them, before they leave the factory.. The grooved pattern nail nicks are the big giveaway.
Dave Canterbury is a survivalist, bushcrafter, TH-camr. He has a channel demonstrating bush craft skills and tools. Likely he was paid for his signature and may not have had much to do with the design of the knife. There is difference between a signature Tony Bose knife that made knives for a lifetime and ones endorsed by celebrities. If you like the celebrity you might like the knife for that reason. I would rather have a Tobias Gibson signature model; very likely you would get a better working design for your money. I noticed once a TH-cam channel grows Hugh; they have little time for the subscribers that helped get them there. Once a TH-cam channel takes endorsements their true unbiased opinion is lost. All the videos are just commercials for their sponsors. Sponsors often drop the channel for a better one and that channel soon becomes history. If all you ever see is product unboxing videos; likely there is a sponsor hiding in the woodpile. How can a TH-cam channel for fishing ever use all the products they show in unboxing videos? They don’t; that is obvious if you follow the channel long. They don’t buy thousands of dollars’ worth of products for their subscribers unless they are given them for free or at very low prices. I believe Knife Chats gives honest unbiased reviews and that is what I prefer to see and believe.
It sounds like the Scout King has the same quality control problems that the Dave Canterbury Case Hunter has. Which leads me to think Dave needs to take a bit more care about what he’s putting his name on. Glad I didn’t order one now.
Dave Canterbury seems to put his name on everything these days. Frankly, I do not see the advantage of this knife over other “scout knife” styles. Seems like something a little different simply to flash Mr. Canterbury’s name. Thank you for this review.
Shield centering is not an issue for me, size of the can opener is not a big issue either. I have small original issue P-38 can openers and large versions. The larger version does better opening cans than the original small version, but I still have a small one on my key ring with my keys. You never know when you might need it. I recall SMKW's were selling Dave Canterbury Case Scout knives for a ridiculous price. All he did on the Case knife was put his name on the ain blade and ground the spine to a true 90 degree spine to facilitate making fire with a ferro rod. This automatically voided the Case warranty, because it removed the protective coating from the spine. I'd keep the cap lifter screwdriver blade, because you might find that most Holy of all Grails........... A bottle of BEER somebody got drunk and forgot about last time they went Camping !!! 🤣🤣🤣 leave it to a Vet to have that reason 🙃
SMKW does not carry the Case knife anymore on their website, but they do have the Marbles knife for 19.99 Not a bad price in my opinion, but I'll stick to my ancient decrepit and imminently unsuitable SAK Champ with its myriad of tools.
For me, the caplifter/screwdrivers trumps the can opener any day of the week. I also always have a P38 can opener with me at all times so this can opener is more likely to be used to cut the tape on a sealed cardboard tape than anything else.
I am shocked Dave Canterbury would put his name on any folding knives. In all his you tube videos he always talks about fixed blades with a full tangs for outdoor use.
Cap lifter, or bottle opener is my absolute essential. The can opener has passed its time. If stuck a sheath knife can manage the job, but it’s so rare. Opening a beer bottle happens at least once every day and two or three times occasionally! I certainly wouldn’t pay anything extra to have Dave Canterbury’s name on anything!
Can openers and corkscrews are near worthless in this day and age. I'll take the Remington any day, any size. I like the Rough Ryder with the Phillips screwdriver too.
It is interesting that the name of Dave Canterbury, who emphasizes the quality of tools and knives in particular, is connected to a medium-level folding knife made in China, which probably has little use value for a woodsman. In the video, i can see a lot of finishing errors, which indicate poor qualityl. In Finland this costs €35, so maybe I'll buy it to see this "miracle" myself. Although I normally don't buy these Chinese waist of money wonder's.
Yeah to me the shield would be the only thing I'd see when picking it up. Mr. Tobias check out the message I left you on instagram I think you might be interested it's a really nice kamp king
LOL. But is you've been around the block a few times, you probably know a half dozen ways to pop open a beer bottle without a bottle opener. From car doors to axe heads there's always a way to get the beer open!
I believe he was involved in a controversy related to his cable TV show. It was reported that he claimed to have been a sniper in a special forces unit when in fact he had been a military police man.
purchased this due to missing out on the Rough Ryder production last time. didn’t realIze it was larger but you’ve convinced me to have at least one camp knife in my collection that isn’t a SAK
You may know by now, but. David Michael Canterbury (born September 19, 1963) is a survival expert who co-starred on the reality television show Dual Survival for two seasons (2010-11) which aired on the Discovery Channel.[1] He is also an author, publishing Bushcraft 101 in 2014 (which made The New York Times Best Seller list),[2] Survivability for the Common Man (2011), and Advanced Bushcraft (2015). In 2015 Canterbury co-starred in a survival series called Dirty Rotten Survival, which aired on the National Geographic Channel.
I’ve used this to whittle projects and to make a leather sheath.Dave had this knife made with his changes to get it into the hands of the people who couldn’t afford higher priced knives is my understanding.he collaborated for the extra size and length of the blades plus the awl.for the price this knife can do a lot if the user has the skills to put it to the tasks.
Hey tobias..great vidio!.at 65 years old i can see the the bottle opener after several beers.thats not a bad thing rite?
This was a very fair assessment of the pros and cons (especially that can opener), thank you!
Awesome video Tobias I’ve been wanting to do a video of my Remington camp tool!!!!!! I’ll have to shoot a video because I really do love that piece...... thanks bud!!!!!
2 years now since this video was made, the MR468 has changed a little bit. Mine came in a dark reddish brown, the shield is centered nicely, and the Bail dousn't look as robust being fairly thin round wire, flattened at the ends where it is attached to the pin. Great Video!! : )
I purchased the Rough Rider Kamp King and it fell apart in my hands when I tried to open a can with it. I'm assuming it would be the same case with this. They're fun to look at, but they are in no way usable in reality.
Really surprised that Dave Canterbury has anything to do with this knife! He is all about the fixed blade and does a lot with Morakniv. Had the opportunity to meet and talk with him a bit at Blade Show West 2019 at the Mora table!
Thanks for showing us this one Tobias!!
He's had some signature folding knives made with Case too. I have the folding hunter version.
At least there's no big M on bolster and I wouldn't mind cool guy name like that on my blade, but you are giving it "righteous judgement"
I bought this knife because im a big Dave Canterbury fan.. mine seems to be a little lighter in color than yours. my shield is pretty centered maybe a tad off. Dave is a pretty well known outdoorsman bushcrafter. i may use this not sure yet. got it mainly for my collection. only thing weird to me on mine is the awl. It is not fully sharpened. the first maybe half is dull then has a sharp edge then a tiny dull spot again.
I don't know anything about Dave Canterbury, either, but as someone with a modicum of experience camping out of both a backpack and a car, I feel like the design of the classic Kamp King (and hence the embiggened Scout King) is a throwback to times when most people were car camping, bringing with them bottles of beer and soda as well as many canned food items. To a modern "survivalist" or even backpacker, the tools on the Victorinox Hunter would be much more useful. I can't imagine a self proclaimed survival expert endorsing a classic camp-style knife in this day and age, no matter how large. It is interesting from a collector's standpoint, I suppose, but I can't imagine trudging off into the woods with a pocket knife that is so limited in its versatility when there are far better options.
My best guess is Dave actually had little if anything to do with the design. He probably just said"how much are you paying me for the use of my name", and took the money and ran like Bear Grylls did with Gerber. That is just a guess, but as much importance as he puts on everything in his kit, I can't picture him thinking a knife that is very uncomfortable in the grip would be a good idea. Could be wrong though.
Another great comparison video Tobias. 👍 Cheers Bart 👊😃👍
I thought you might have been a little rough on Dave Canterbury, but I hung in and watched several of your videos. Based on your opinion, I ended up getting a pristine Camillus Cub Scout knife. What an excellent knife! Subscribed, Thanks!
As I mentioned, I know nothing of Dave Canterbury. I also do not know how involved he was with the design of the knife. My issues were with the knife itself. Just scaling up the size of a knife doesn’t make it better. That was my main gripe. Now SMKW has released the same knife in the Rougn Ryder line with no mention of Dave Canterbury’s involvement. That to me speaks volumes of how much Canterbury was involved with this knife.
That can opener is designed to inflict pain. Another knife designed by committee?
If you don't like it then all you need to do is grind down the kick. Things like this bother me, and I've ground down the kick on countless knives. What bothers me even more is the sharp swedges that RR/SMKW has been using recently. Those get ground down as well, but that often results in a visual modification I don't care for, and it is often not possible to completely eliminate the hot-spot problem either.
@@rockets4kids That can opener is so high I can't see grinding the kick being enough
@@vinniesdayoff3968 You would be amazed at how much you can lower blades/tools if you've never done it before.
@@rockets4kids I have not done it so I must defer to your knowledge of the matter. Thanks for the info 👍
@@vinniesdayoff3968 Perhaps we can convince Tobias to give it a go on this one to show how well it does (or doesn't) work. You know, for science! I did notice this blade doesn't have a traditional kick so it might not work as well as it does on blades with a more traditional kick.
I do agree with your evaluations on these blades. Bigger isn't always better.
Yeah, I'm not sure what they were thinking. To me it was more of a cash grab than anything else,
Rough rider has a version of this knife as well….it’s the tiger stripe camp knife, if I remember correctly
Yep. I recently picked it up. I’ll be doing a review soon.
just visiting this video to see again your gorgeous cattleknife with screw driver (a tool that looks more useful for a carpenter than a cowboy). I never been on a survival situation, but it happened to me being forced to do a lot of work with pocket tools to avoid an uncomfortable situation. I think that a friendly grip for the hand is much better than oversize tools which seem designed just to be abused. But you put a huge question on camp knives designers. Which tools we need today? Thank you Tobias!
Of all the modern versions of the camp king I like the Canterbury design the most!
The color of the scales happen to be one of my favorites!
Cover's.
I like the scout knife pattern in general, but don't own any as of yet. As far as multi bladed knives for work and camping, I'm afraid I've got a bit of a swiss army knife addiction. They just work well for me. But out of the models that you showed, I think the rough ryder kamp king is my favorite. I just really like the looks of the covers on that one. Thanks for showing all these, and for your thoughts on the scout king, buddy.
David C. Is perhaps best known as one of the guys on Dual Survival, a TV series putting 2 people in survival situations all over the world. He runs a Bushcraft survival school. Looks like he pimped out his name without checking the production run. Might be an okay knife with a few modifications.
Strange that they can't get the shield centered properly.
His collaborations tend to fall flat. He made a folding hunter with Case that had a lot of quality control issues. He tried working with Leatherman and Esee, but they never came to fruition. I'm guessing because of some clash over production.
I like it! I like the size of it, and although I'm not crazy about the color of the bone, I think zi could get used to it. Thanks buddy!
I thought about getting it, but I didn’t want some dude’s signature on the blade. (I didn’t know who he was either)
Okay, I’ve had the Scout King for a little while now.
The shield is centered well and the action on the can opener (as well as all the other blades) is what I would call “just right”. It will stop at the half open, and snap open with just a little movement that direction.
I love the size of it overall. But you are absolutely correct in that the can opener sticks up far too high when closed.
I’m wondering if I can grind it down a bit so it sits lower when closed. (Maybe I’ll try it sometime).
Overall, it looks good and does what it’s supposed to do. It fits my large hands better than the other scout knives I own.
I would think the bigger the hand, the more comfortable this knife will be. I like the idea of the knife. Thanks for the update!
I bought the Dave C. scout knife from SMKW not a bad knife but I kind of like the Old Timer scout knife a little better. One thing you might want to address when reviewing these scout knives is the can opener. The one on my Dave C scout was dull as hell and I had to really sharpen it. Now that having been said, I'm going to be using my trusty P-38 to open cans butshould the need arise you're gonna want that can opener really sharp
I'm noticing that the joint pins are really small,
I don't think this was made to use, it's for collectors who are always looking for something they don't already have.
Bingo!
I feel like the shield being off-center is on purpose. Makes me think that maybe the bone had some fault in it, and they just covered it with the shield.
My Kamp King had very lazy action similar to this knife. And the main blade fell directly on top of the awl. Very annoying
"A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man." Jebediah Springfield.
Canterbury is a true outdoorsman and runs the Pathfinder School. He is a a practical person who doesn't necessarily insist on carrying the largest, most technically advanced knife, but in making the most of what you have. He often uses traditional folders and I like that he didn't feel like putting his name on an affordable Chinese knife was beneath him. He was also involved with the Mora Garberg, which I believe was their first true full tang offering. That being said, that big can opener is just silly.
Awesome video thanks so very much.
I just received this knife from SMKW. The large size doesn't bother me. The blade came sharp. The cap lifter/screw driver is functional, though I'll only use the screw driver. I don't do beer, though an occasional, rare bottle of root beer, this will function fine. The can opener IS large. I learned how to use a pocket knife can opener as a kid, so this one will serve well, though...did I mention it was large? The crook in the shape is part of the function. Compare it to an older, stand alone manual can opener, they are often shaped with a crook in them for the tip to lock in place. THE PROBLEM: I always carry a "smaller" pocket knife in my pocket, in addition to a Leatherman Surge on my belt. I usually carry a SAK Tinker or Huntsman, and use the awl frequently to slightly lift a soda can lid to start it up to open for my not-so-tactile fingertips. I then use the awl to poke a hole in the top of the can before I open it, which allows for the bad habit of chugging my soda. If you drink beer, I've see this done to help reduce the suds created when pouring. In the official description, the tool is described as a "reamer with sewing eye" (I thought was an awl?). This designe is a FAIL, if used as an awl. The reamer is long and thin, which allows for the tip to BEND if putting any prying motion on it. Poking straight down, it works, but do not pry with it. I can put enough pressure on it to bend the tip by hand. For $20, I will not return it, since the the other blades are functional enough. The reamer is NOT an awl, and is very weak to basically being a complete flaw in the design.
That giant can opener works great as a marlin spike.
A simple endorsement means absolutely nothing without a good review. I know Dave has had some issues in the past but putting his name on a product is just that...money. I agree about the Vic Hunter, that's the one I carried through 15 years of guiding. I had specialty knives that I used also but the Hunter was with me always. Thanks for a good look Tobias.
Case Cutlery also has two Dave Canterbury signature knives; A trapper and a 2 blade folding hunter. Both are blackwashed CV, and come with signature sheaths w/attached ferro rod.
Well the reamer has a nice sewinghole in it, main blade is a little bigger and I do like the looks on this one. But if I had the choice between the Remmington or the Marbles it would be the Remmington. Maybe if they would've placed a sawblade instead of the oversized canopener and made a canopener/caplifter combo as you suggested I would lean to the Marbles Scoutknife. If it wasn't a choice question I think I would pick it up anyway because although oversized items, it is a nice knife overall. I've missed the productionassistent, give her my regards and thank you very much.
LOL, yes, I’m not quite 7 feet tall, but I have very big gorilla hands.
The action on the can opener isn’t really a problem for me.
But the shield placement is.
Is that weird?
I just ordered this knife, and am waiting for it to arrive. We’ll see how it looks then.
I ordered it mostly because it’s bigger than other scout knives. I’ll have to see how the size of the can opener works for me.
I agree a saw would be nice, but I like the can opener option.
Thanks for this video.
I'll be keen on your thoughts once it has arrive. I always like to hear other people's thoughts. More than once another person favorite feature is my least favorite part of a knife!
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I’ll let you know 👍🏻👍🏻
I was thinking of picking one up just to put in my camping gear how is the overall quality?
Okay. Kind of what you’d expect for $20 and 440 steel.
A modern camp knife in my opinion doesn't need more than a combo cap lifter/can opener, leaving space for some other useful tool.
The can opener on that knife looks as though it would take a lot of swing from one end of a cut to the next, the point looks too long.
Ive got the Marbles camp knife with the blue scales. Absolutely beautiful! But then i look at my SA boy scout huntsman and thats the supreme scout knife of all time to me. But then i collect a lot of knives like my douk douk moras opinels etc not because they are the best but because they are interesting on one level or another.
I can’t find anywhere the rough rider king kamp knife, do you know if it was cancelled? Regards.
No they are just hard to get but stock is always short.
excellent review
I wish that SMKW would come out with a Copy of the Remington Pattern Master Camper..I do love and have had great luck with my Rough Ryders and my Kamp King
Some good, some bad, I'd like to try one out. But I REALLY like that remington!
The Remington looks like a much nicer knife.
I would say that yes the off center shield would bother me .
I am in the market for one since my old Cub Scout knife just fell apart after many years, but this one looks a bit large for me. I recently ordered a Marbles Stockman and was shocked at the fit and finish on such a cheap knife. There might be something wrong with it, but I haven't figured out what it could be yet. I would definitely consider another Marbles knife.
Okay, I decided, I just couldn't live without it, I just bought it. I had been looking at the Remington R4 which is about 4 inches long, and this to me is just way more interesting, so I had to have it!!
It'll be fun to see your take on it.
@@bdh3949 Thanks buddy!!
Looking forward to your thoughts, especially than can opener.
I guess the large can opener is for large cans :-}. Great review of all the pertinent points. Thank you much.
You know Tobias, sometimes you can be sort of abrasive. This is one of those times.
Dave Canterbury is an outdoorsman/bushcrafter/survivalist/ trapper/......TH-camr with 673k followers.
I enjoy some of his videos but would not consider myself a prepper or a groupie.
I do however like almost everything about that scout knife.
I'll start with the burnt bone jigged handles that you slammed. Personally, that colort and pattern is possibly my favorite type of knife handle material and I would be quite content if every knife on earth were dressed that way.
The point is that Sometimes some of the things that you say can insult people as we all have different tastes and in this day and age certain factions of folks implement the cancel culture policy on ya.
I also want you to know that you are my favorite knife video person and I respect your opinion even when I disagree with it and this is one of those times.
I'm glad that I watch this video however because you have given me the love of camp knives with your vids an I just have to have one of these Dave Canterbury knives except for the intrusive blade etch. I like everything about it Thank you for turning us on to it.
On the topic of the " enbiggend " can opener. how do you feel about your demo knives? Are they not similarly proportioned?
I like your videos and I respect your opinion but this time I totally disagree.
RESPECT
very useful comparison. seems like they should be making a Tobia Gibson Scout Emperor, one scout knife to rule them all. saw blade and combo tool instead. sounds reasonable enough. or just get the victorinox 111mm hunter.... though that would be spendy. which makes me wonder how inexpensive Marbles would be able to make the knife you're suggesting.
That can opener sticking up like that has too make the grip uncomfortable. I agree just making things bigger doesn't mean that they are better. I definitely agree that a wood saw would be much better. I doubt I will be getting one as it just doesn't look like a knife that would see much if any use.
Dave Canterbury is a Bushcraft/survivalist who makes TH-cam videos. He was also on shows like the Survivor and Alone I think. In one of his videos, he actually does use a SAK to say that a good camp knife should come with a blade, awl, and saw. I am really surprised that this knife does not have a saw. But if I remember correctly, he might have said that he would have a real saw so he was not concerned that pocket knife have a saw. But I agree with you, a saw would have been a better tool for this knife than having a bottle cap lifter. Also, I agree with you on the color. It looks like diarrhea brown or puke brown.
To me this was just a money grab by ol' Dave. I'm not at all impressed. A standard camp knife makes more sense.
@@KnifeChatswithTobias i agree.
If you're interested in outdoors stuff Dave Canterbury is great to follow here on TH-cam and I definitely recommend his books as well. The tv show he was on can be ignored. Just sensational reality tv.
Thanks for the tip. I will check him out.
Probably built for tradition rather than function. I’ve wondered about cap lifers and can openers for a long time.
So would you say Marbles and Rough Rider are usually about the same quality?
Shame they couldn’t center the shield, seems odd. Interesting knife though thanks for the review, cheers 👍
My guess is the shield is glued on the handle and then the handle is cut to size and fit to the knife. I guess the QC standard is just “close enough.”
I just ordered this knife today 😉
Very intriguing, I think I'll stick with my antique camp kings and my Victorinox Farmer. Short awl/punch isn't too useful and the can opener protruding isn't desirable. Sometimes Dave hits the mark.
Love the saw idea...why not just go a little bigger and put fork and spoon on outsides of scales, like those `60's Japanese camp knives?
I'd sure like to see a RANDALL/ESEE - VICTORINOX collaboration Trekker with a fire steel.
Marbles branded knives are made by Rough Rider, they simply just slap another brand on them, before they leave the factory.. The grooved pattern nail nicks are the big giveaway.
The shield doesn’t matter you can’t use it for anything anyway.
Dave Canterbury is a survivalist, bushcrafter, TH-camr. He has a channel demonstrating bush craft skills and tools. Likely he was paid for his signature and may not have had much to do with the design of the knife. There is difference between a signature Tony Bose knife that made knives for a lifetime and ones endorsed by celebrities. If you like the celebrity you might like the knife for that reason. I would rather have a Tobias Gibson signature model; very likely you would get a better working design for your money. I noticed once a TH-cam channel grows Hugh; they have little time for the subscribers that helped get them there. Once a TH-cam channel takes endorsements their true unbiased opinion is lost. All the videos are just commercials for their sponsors. Sponsors often drop the channel for a better one and that channel soon becomes history. If all you ever see is product unboxing videos; likely there is a sponsor hiding in the woodpile. How can a TH-cam channel for fishing ever use all the products they show in unboxing videos? They don’t; that is obvious if you follow the channel long. They don’t buy thousands of dollars’ worth of products for their subscribers unless they are given them for free or at very low prices. I believe Knife Chats gives honest unbiased reviews and that is what I prefer to see and believe.
Just get a Swiss Army Knife no worries.😄😄
I went with "Boker Classic Pocket Knife".
If you check out Dave's youtube channel you will see that he prefers Victorinox knives for pocked multi-function knives.
It sounds like the Scout King has the same quality control problems that the Dave Canterbury Case Hunter has. Which leads me to think Dave needs to take a bit more care about what he’s putting his name on. Glad I didn’t order one now.
Dave Canterbury seems to put his name on everything these days. Frankly, I do not see the advantage of this knife over other “scout knife” styles. Seems like something a little different simply to flash Mr. Canterbury’s name. Thank you for this review.
Embiggened?
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It’s a perfectly cromulent word.
@@NorthStarKnifeReviews Impeccably put!
Shield centering is not an issue for me, size of the can opener is not a big issue either. I have small original issue P-38 can openers and large versions. The larger version does better opening cans than the original small version, but I still have a small one on my key ring with my keys. You never know when you might need it. I recall SMKW's were selling Dave Canterbury Case Scout knives for a ridiculous price. All he did on the Case knife was put his name on the ain blade and ground the spine to a true 90 degree spine to facilitate making fire with a ferro rod. This automatically voided the Case warranty, because it removed the protective coating from the spine. I'd keep the cap lifter screwdriver blade, because you might find that most Holy of all Grails........... A bottle of BEER somebody got drunk and forgot about last time they went Camping !!! 🤣🤣🤣 leave it to a Vet to have that reason 🙃
SMKW does not carry the Case knife anymore on their website, but they do have the Marbles knife for 19.99
Not a bad price in my opinion, but I'll stick to my ancient decrepit and imminently unsuitable SAK Champ with its myriad of tools.
Good Call!
For me, the caplifter/screwdrivers trumps the can opener any day of the week. I also always have a P38 can opener with me at all times so this can opener is more likely to be used to cut the tape on a sealed cardboard tape than anything else.
I personally don't see the use in making it bigger, and I agree not a fan of the color on bone
I am shocked Dave Canterbury would put his name on any folding knives. In all his you tube videos he always talks about fixed blades with a full tangs for outdoor use.
Cap lifter, or bottle opener is my absolute essential. The can opener has passed its time. If stuck a sheath knife can manage the job, but it’s so rare. Opening a beer bottle happens at least once every day and two or three times occasionally! I certainly wouldn’t pay anything extra to have Dave Canterbury’s name on anything!
Can openers and corkscrews are near worthless in this day and age. I'll take the Remington any day, any size. I like the Rough Ryder with the Phillips screwdriver too.
Huh. Not impressed. I think the RR would be my choice. At least none of them has a corkscrew...
Dude your opening gives me nightmares
It is interesting that the name of Dave Canterbury, who emphasizes the quality of tools and knives in particular, is connected to a medium-level folding knife made in China, which probably has little use value for a woodsman. In the video, i can see a lot of finishing errors, which indicate poor qualityl. In Finland this costs €35, so maybe I'll buy it to see this "miracle" myself. Although I normally don't buy these Chinese waist of money wonder's.
Just buy a good Swiss Army Knife for that same money. You'll be happier in the long run.
@@KnifeChatswithTobias I actually have several Swiss Army knives. But I'm also curious about this knife bearing the Dave Canterbury name.
I would not like to carry that in my pocket!
Nor I. Too unnecessarily big and bulky, especially just to get an extra half inch of cutting edge on the main blade.
Yeah to me the shield would be the only thing I'd see when picking it up. Mr. Tobias check out the message I left you on instagram I think you might be interested it's a really nice kamp king
How many campers don't need a bottle opener? Pffth! If you're not taking in at least a six pack you're doing it wrong.
LOL. But is you've been around the block a few times, you probably know a half dozen ways to pop open a beer bottle without a bottle opener. From car doors to axe heads there's always a way to get the beer open!
@@KnifeChatswithTobias True, but how many people out there get by with using a key for all the things we use a knife for?!
No. No...saw next to bottle opener.lol
Yes your right if it had a wood saw on I would buy one
I’m very wary of anything Dave Canterbury is associated with.
Y?
I believe he was involved in a controversy related to his cable TV show. It was reported that he claimed to have been a sniper in a special forces unit when in fact he had been a military police man.
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Oh yeah!
That rings a bell. Tks.
he is the best outdoorsman alive.
@@garyhouston113 😂😂😂.