I like the idea of you doing this of mostly easier extreme demons, because I think you can be way more accurate at rating them because you've made good progress on them or have beaten them. Unlike the hardest levels in the game where you might be inaccurate because I believe you only do 1 practice run.
To me this level has always felt underrated since it fallen out of the top 10. I'd say it definitely deserves the extreme demon rating to this day. Also i would say that the first part of the wave is about 3.0-3.5 but the second part is a 4.5 imo. The mini is super tight.
@@remsi2208 2.7 meaning Insane Demon Difficulty, almost Extreme Demon difficulty, I'd say the 1st part is close to a Medium Demon difficulty, and the 2nd part might even be Extreme Demon difficulty.
I've recently beaten cataclysm and I can confirm that this video is pretty accurate. I wanted to point out another hard part, the 73-74 ship after the dual. That part killed me like 5 times before I actually beat the level lol
@@Exott I did 4 Extremes: Spectral Tentation (now Insane Demon): I died 5 times at 95% and even managed to click off my monitor at 94% Cataclysm: I died 2 times at the dual ship and overall 5 more times at the slow ship at 60% ICDX: I died 4 times at 95% Thanatophobia: I managed to die at the last click of the whole thing Conclusion: I think I am an above average lucky player :D
I am attempting to beat cataclysm rn and this video is definitely helpful, ty for making this. It was also very similar to my own observations when practicing, so now I know what to expect. As a side note, personally I'm glad the hardest part is at the beginning and not the very end
Here are some things you guys really need to understand about Extreme Demons: When TH-camrs beat them you think usually that they aren't struggling with them and they are easy, but in reality they are for the most part suffering and sometimes the level they are trying to beat is the limit of what they can do currently. NEVER EVER underestimate Extreme Demons, even if they are easy Extreme Demons
@@THEL05 Well it did drive me insane personally and my friends assumed its just a typical issue with a level, when in reality back when I trying to beat it I legit cried and said messed up stuff on stream.
A lot of people such as Doggie, trick, zoink, wpopoff, nexus and many more current players use things like bypass and CBF making the game easier for them, also once they have beaten several top 150 demons, levels like cataclysm feel like a breeze for them. Yes they are obviously still a slight challenge, but they beat levels like Bloodlust, Crimson planet, the golden, Tartarus, firework, and Slaughterhouse and then you expect them to struggle with Cataclysm. The short answer is no. Although we may struggle with easy extremes like cataclysm, a good amount of people don’t.
It does definitely vary based on refresh rate/device, even more so then with other levels. It is actually top 50 on the mobile list, above other extremes that are harder on PC (such as Electrolux, Niflheim, 666, etc). Good vid tho!
We've become desensitized to difficulty as a community nowdays. Guys, Cataclysm is freaking HARD. Just because to Zoink, Trick and Diamond (as an example) it's easy that doesn't mean It won't annihilate everybody else. I actually heard one guy say Cataclysm is mid-tier insane demon. As if we're still in version 1 and Riot never buffed it somehow
Honestly, the first 35% of the level were the biggest roadblock for me, which made the experience very frustrating. I loved playing from the UFO after the ball. If I got there from 0, I had a shot at completing the level.
Found the last ball to be a massive block personally. I cannot gain any consistency at it, but dont have too much trouble with the first wave tbh. I have a weird af skillset though
first cube is 1.0ish, the first wave for me is 3.5 as I feel it's very skill based, second ship is 3.6 the 2nd wave is 2.9ish, I actually found the ball pretty easy compared to other parts, so I'd give it a 3.1, the Ufo is brief but difficult, so I'll put it at a 3.3, the next ship corridor is quite awkward so I'll leave it at as a 3.7, the next cube is actually quite easy compared to the rest of the level in my opinion, so I have it as about 2.7. The next section is basically free, but I would say you are underrating it, since the memory ball isn't super free, so I'd put it as a 2.3. The last ship is a huge roadblock for 60 hz players like me. I'd say it's the hardest part by far, since how long the straight fly section is, so I'd put it at 3.5-4.5, depending on your hz, but I'd put it at 4.5 for me. The last section is pretty underrated in my opinion. It's definitely easier than the rest of the level, but it's still a challenge, so I'd put it at 2.6 because the last straight fly is a big chokepoint for 60hz players, so I raised it from a 2.3 to a 2.6. I guess this is just how the level difficulty differs by your hz.
Beat both as my two hardest levels and had way more trouble finishing ICDX. This very last ship part is something I‘ll never be consistent at for some reason…
i tried to beat cata for a while, practiced the drop and rest of level to save the predrop for last. after 2 weeks of practicing the drop, i realized that i physically could NOT do the mini wave and was devastated. currently playing acu :v
My ratings: 0-6% - 0.7: You only really die here if you try to get the coin and even then it's still easy 6-15% - 4.2: Insanely hard with tight gaps 18-25% - 2.8: Not too difficult just kind of weird gameplay 25-28% - 2.6: Not too tight wave but low visibility gives it the difficulty 28-35% - 3.0: When you know the click pattern it becomes really easy. The double click is hard and so are the timings 35-40% - 2.8: Pretty tight ufo but the click pattern is easy to learn and master 40-43% - 3.5: Really difficult but it can become consistent with a good click pattern (I usually do 1 2 3 then the portal then 1 2 3 4 then click and hold the orbs) 43-48% - 2.7: The only hard part about this section is the triple orb click at 47/48% where if you click the blue orb for too long you jump on the platform and die 48-64% - 1.8: Not difficult but I did find myself dying from 58-60% because of the weird ufo and semi-difficult ball clicks and weird straight-fly at the end 64-75% - 3.8: This part is insanely difficult. Not much else to say 75-100% - 1.0/2.8: This part is 2 ratings because on it's own it's insanely easy but with nerves it becomes very difficult.
my opinion: 0-6%: easiest part, every timing is a buffer and it's pretty easy to memorize 6-15%: the second hardest part of the entire level, the timings are pretty tight but it slowly becomes consistent with practice 18-25%: second easiest part of the drop, pretty easy to learn, the ship control is kinda hard but if you're playing in 120hz or more it becomes pretty easy 25-28%: this wave at first is pretty hard but eventually you find a click pattern that becomes pretty consistent 28-35%: the second hardest part of the drop, this ball is pretty hard to learn but with time you learn it, but it's still a massive run killer due to it's second part 35-40%: probably a massive ufo skill issue from my part, but it's just impossible to get consistent on it, everytime i get here i pray to rngezus because i just can't get consistent 40-43%: the hardest part of the entire level, even though it's really short, the difficulty here increases by a lot, getting into the clubstep monsters with the right angle is crucial but really hard to do, combining with the nerves, this part becomes hell, but this is the final push in cataclysm for me, after this, everything becomes a battle against your nerves 43-51%: the first input on this part is pretty hard, but after that everything flows really well 51-64%: the hardest part that it's not in the drop, it's pretty easy to just click to early or too late when you're nervous, just keep calm, this part also flows really well and it's pretty easy once you master it 64-75%: this part is pretty easy if you're playing in 120hz or more, the only thing that can kill you is your nerves, you're at the final stretch of cataclysm so they're here and in big amounts 75-100%: don't celebrate too early, this wave can be really tricky if you're not prepared, just focus on fighting your nerves, after the wave, your last enemy will be a 4 block wide regular straight fly, it's pretty easy to pull of, and after all of this, you've beaten this legendary demon
my personal ratings as a 60 hz player: first cube: 0.3 first wave: 4.3 drop ship: 3.3 mini wave: 2.8 ball: 2.5 ufo: 2.3 40 ship: 4.0 cube: 3.5 piano part: 2.0 last ship: 4.8 last wave: 1.7 ending: 2.0 the last ship on 60 hz is absolutely brutal. i've sunk a few thousand attempts into it already and it is only just starting to get somewhat consistent.
I did the math and the level got an overall average score of 2.76, which places it at high end insane demon. Is this a flaw with the difficulty system presented in this video? probably. Either you're personally underrating the parts or your difficulty system is disproportionate, both of which are very possible cases. (I added all the ratings up to get 30.4 and divided it by 11 because that is how many parts this video separates the level into)
Finding the average score is a terrible measure since a 4.0 score isn't 33% harder than a 3.0 score , it's more like 2x harder so of course the average score won't make sense lol
for me the first wave is relatively easy, the first ship is easy the ball right after is difficult and basically the rest of the level up until the piano section is difficult, but the ship at 40% is impossible to me and the rest of the level is easy. I am on 75hz btw
Doing this level rn, I could agree more, that first wave is infuriating and wave is my best game mode lol One thing I disagree with is that the cube at 46 gets really easy once you’ve learned it at least for me Btw my progress is 46-100 and 36 from 0 is 4k att
My progress is 24%-100% and 74% from 0%. I can tell you that 43%-49% part is a lot harder when you actually get there. I died 6 times at 46% and 16 times at 48%. Considering how hard it is to get to 43% on Cataclysm this is really unfortunate…
There is a difference between particing and going for the completion. Average player actually dies about 200 times more on the wave than on the ship part.
In my opinion the first wave is like 2.3 but the rest of the level following it is the same difficulty as in the video but +1, the 64 ship especially, for me feels something like 6 because of my skillset
Ima be honest, cataclysm is probably the one of the easiest extreme demons now, compared to the new extreme demons that come out every week, they are make cataclysm seem like a hard demon
If all the level was as hard as the very first wave, it would be around Sakupen Hell difficulty IMO. Other thing is that on mobile p, the entre level is brutal. Like around TOP 20 on mobile lista so Cataclysm is still a really tough level on mobile
I'd wanna see a how hard is wavebreaker. Idk i just like the level lol and i'm trying to beat it rn (6 deaths past 90, 1 death on the last triple jump :D)
My ratings (I've played a couple thousand attempts of cataclysm, and done the entire second half in one run) First Cube: 0.5 First Wave: 4.5 (The Mini parts difficulty to the spacing makes it even exceed many short wave parts from Sonic Wave, not kidding) First Ship: 3.25 Second Wave: 2.75 First Ball: 3.75 First UFO: 3.5 Second Ship: 4 Second Cube: 2.5 Second Ball/Memorization Part: 2.25 Third Ship: 3.75 Ending (Wave-Final Straight Fly): 2 Basically, I just thought your ratings were a little low for some parts, and that it was way too high for a part or two :)
I was wondering if you could make a how hard is 8o video? I was trying to beat it for a month before giving up so I was wondering how hard you think it is
IMO your video is very unaccurate in many aspects. Thats why I will say my opinion: -On the first wave I agree 4.0, like your average TOP 100 demon nowadays or Sakupen Hell difficulty (But in 2015 LOL) -The ship I would say more than hard, its very akward, I will out it an 2.3, an insane demon difficulty. -The next miniwave is pretty easy. I died there less times than on the very first cube so I will put a 0.8 -The ball is pretty tricky but it gets pretty consistent with the time and its the most fun part of the level so a 1.8 -The UFO is considerabely easier than the ball, still you can die there a few times so I will put a 1.5 -Puff, this hard for me is way harder than the first wave but luckily its pretty short, I will put a 4.3. Slighty harder than the first wave but is on the 40% mark so it hurts more to die there. -Next cube, is like the ball, quite tricky but get consistente and its pretty fun, a 1.5 -Minicube and link ball are basically a break but you have to be careful still, a 1.2 -This ship is very tough, mainly for its duration. 60% of my attempts learning this level were trying to beat this entire ship and its on the end so its almost imposible to not die there at least once. A 3.5 -The last parte is pretty easy but I recomme d practicing the miniwave for extra safety. A 1.2 And thats it. I think you overrated Cataclysm a little bit lol. I think that your videos about modern extreme demons are very accurate but on the old ones not that much, probably because you are starting to beat extremes. Because you take a lot of attempts, you overrated them accidentaly. I think thats normal when you a beating levels that are way harder than your hardest level before but it is just a recommendation. Or maybe is because I play on mobile, the difference between one difficulty and another is way more evident so its easier to say accurate difficulties for me. I also think that your difficulty ratings are very low to compare easier level. For example 2.0 is a insane demon but the number "2" makes it seems that is way easier. Still love your vídeos and its very good to know that you are still active in this community :D
Soo i think i can share MY opinion since i beat it 0-6% i agree 6-15% i disagree.Half the time when i got to the first wave i beat it and it wasnt even hard to learn,Its just inconsistent.For me is a 3.2 18-25% i agree 25-28% i strongly disagree.This wave is like the first wave but its more spammy,at 0.5 speed and has wider spaces.For me is a 1.8 28-35% i agree 35-40% i agree 40-43% i agree 43-48% i disagree.I think this is the hardest part of the level because EVERY CLICK IS A FUCKIN TIMING plus its 3x speed. its a 4.1 for me 48-64% i agree 64-75% i kind of agree but i think is a 3.0 75-100% i agree Overall, really unbalanced, I think it should be an insane demon. Enjoyment 5/10
I disagree with a lot of these takes and I would know since I've completed cataclysm over 500 times (I'm not joking, look in the description of my AfterCataBath completion)
dont really agree with the first waves rating, for me it got consistent after a while but the 40% ship was something i could never get consistent at even after thousands of attempts, but besides that good vid
@@Tyler_09 I actually found it in youtubes audio library under the name fast and run a few months ago its funny that someone uploaded it as a different song
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I think it’s been over 8 months lol
idk tbh
Please do fragile sometime? It really deserves a rate and mabye you can bring the attention it needs?
So sary never clear or delusion
I like the idea of you doing this of mostly easier extreme demons, because I think you can be way more accurate at rating them because you've made good progress on them or have beaten them. Unlike the hardest levels in the game where you might be inaccurate because I believe you only do 1 practice run.
It has
Finally a "How hard is" video that doesn't require a rating extension lol
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I really like you doing levels within your skill level because it feels like you have more insight + the scores are generally way more accurate
I agree
They are still pretty subjective.
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To me this level has always felt underrated since it fallen out of the top 10. I'd say it definitely deserves the extreme demon rating to this day.
Also i would say that the first part of the wave is about 3.0-3.5 but the second part is a 4.5 imo. The mini is super tight.
I agree
Imo the first part of the wave is like 2.7, and the mini is around 4.
@@remsi2208 2.7 meaning Insane Demon Difficulty, almost Extreme Demon difficulty, I'd say the 1st part is close to a Medium Demon difficulty, and the 2nd part might even be Extreme Demon difficulty.
True
I've recently beaten cataclysm and I can confirm that this video is pretty accurate. I wanted to point out another hard part, the 73-74 ship after the dual. That part killed me like 5 times before I actually beat the level lol
Same, when I beat it the 1st time, i died at the end ship 15 times and the wave twice
I'm not proud of it, but I died over ten times to the piano section before beating this level. Some of the timings feel awkward as heck.
Same, I mostly died there due to nerves. Also died at the last straight fly once due nerves :-)
At least you didn't die 2 times at the last wave like me
@@Exott I did 4 Extremes:
Spectral Tentation (now Insane Demon):
I died 5 times at 95% and even managed to click off my monitor at 94%
Cataclysm:
I died 2 times at the dual ship and overall 5 more times at the slow ship at 60%
ICDX:
I died 4 times at 95%
Thanatophobia:
I managed to die at the last click of the whole thing
Conclusion:
I think I am an above average lucky player :D
Especially the click near the beginning where you have to guess where the spikes are. I died there so many times.
@@StunGDforgot to edit icdx to put "now insane demon"
If you want, I’m currently trying to beat Allegiance after like, 4K attempts so if you haven’t beat it and wanted to do a video on it, reply :3
I don’t get why people torture themselves playing cataclysm when they could play a fun level like hypersonic or allegiance
allegiance is around cata difficulty, take that ig
@@zLucci. hypersonic is horrible
@@zLucci. hypersonic is a awful level what are you talking about lol
@@zLucci. lmao ive spent like 2 years with multiple breaks playing cata, its fun in runs but dog from 0%
Do “sary never clear” next lol
yes please
Good choice 👌
rupture maybe
That would be cool yeah
@@datksouls.beast.legend rupture or the rupture?
I am attempting to beat cataclysm rn and this video is definitely helpful, ty for making this. It was also very similar to my own observations when practicing, so now I know what to expect. As a side note, personally I'm glad the hardest part is at the beginning and not the very end
The content I so desire is finally back.
I agree with you. The first wave is insanely annoying and whenever I pass it, I fail somewhere later because of the excitement of passing it.
7:03 this feels like the end of a game of wii baseball
Here are some things you guys really need to understand about Extreme Demons: When TH-camrs beat them you think usually that they aren't struggling with them and they are easy, but in reality they are for the most part suffering and sometimes the level they are trying to beat is the limit of what they can do currently. NEVER EVER underestimate Extreme Demons, even if they are easy Extreme Demons
This is goddamn right. Cataclysm is gonna drive to insanity…
@@THEL05 Well it did drive me insane personally and my friends assumed its just a typical issue with a level, when in reality back when I trying to beat it I legit cried and said messed up stuff on stream.
lol actually if you can pull off like a top 300 demon you can do easy extremes within a day or two
@@extazy9944 I can pull them off within a few hours now
A lot of people such as Doggie, trick, zoink, wpopoff, nexus and many more current players use things like bypass and CBF making the game easier for them, also once they have beaten several top 150 demons, levels like cataclysm feel like a breeze for them. Yes they are obviously still a slight challenge, but they beat levels like Bloodlust, Crimson planet, the golden, Tartarus, firework, and Slaughterhouse and then you expect them to struggle with Cataclysm. The short answer is no. Although we may struggle with easy extremes like cataclysm, a good amount of people don’t.
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It does definitely vary based on refresh rate/device, even more so then with other levels. It is actually top 50 on the mobile list, above other extremes that are harder on PC (such as Electrolux, Niflheim, 666, etc). Good vid tho!
We've become desensitized to difficulty as a community nowdays. Guys, Cataclysm is freaking HARD. Just because to Zoink, Trick and Diamond (as an example) it's easy that doesn't mean It won't annihilate everybody else. I actually heard one guy say Cataclysm is mid-tier insane demon. As if we're still in version 1 and Riot never buffed it somehow
Mid tier insane demon is ridiculous. Like soon it will be considered as Easy Demon
Cataclysm is too hard for the most of people, like me. I have taken 10k attemps playing it, and i havent made a good progress yet
@@cami_pala same
its honestly a high insane demon and no im not a zoink
@@extazy9944High insane demon is equal to easy extreme demon i guess
I want to see a "How hard is Falling Up?" video, that seems like it would be fun.
Honestly, the first 35% of the level were the biggest roadblock for me, which made the experience very frustrating. I loved playing from the UFO after the ball. If I got there from 0, I had a shot at completing the level.
Glad your're back! I like these where you do easy extremes. Maybe Possibly Thing or Thano next? ;)
I've been waiting this for SO long
Glad to have this, as of now I plan for this to be my first extreme eventually
Have you beaten it now?
u are such a good TH-camr, everyone is waiting to see ur next upload.
This is the only gd related vid I've watched in a while
Back, thats cool. Gonna see how much I agree with this once Im done.
Found the last ball to be a massive block personally. I cannot gain any consistency at it, but dont have too much trouble with the first wave tbh. I have a weird af skillset though
Nice video! I’m actually trying to beat Cataclysm currently.
Welcome back, to the *original* this is how hard “_____” is
My fav level, _x3
This feels like a video made in 2015
Glad to see this back
first cube is 1.0ish, the first wave for me is 3.5 as I feel it's very skill based, second ship is 3.6 the 2nd wave is 2.9ish, I actually found the ball pretty easy compared to other parts, so I'd give it a 3.1, the Ufo is brief but difficult, so I'll put it at a 3.3, the next ship corridor is quite awkward so I'll leave it at as a 3.7, the next cube is actually quite easy compared to the rest of the level in my opinion, so I have it as about 2.7. The next section is basically free, but I would say you are underrating it, since the memory ball isn't super free, so I'd put it as a 2.3. The last ship is a huge roadblock for 60 hz players like me. I'd say it's the hardest part by far, since how long the straight fly section is, so I'd put it at 3.5-4.5, depending on your hz, but I'd put it at 4.5 for me. The last section is pretty underrated in my opinion. It's definitely easier than the rest of the level, but it's still a challenge, so I'd put it at 2.6 because the last straight fly is a big chokepoint for 60hz players, so I raised it from a 2.3 to a 2.6. I guess this is just how the level difficulty differs by your hz.
Tbh, I don't agree with you at all, but that's probably because of the fact that I play with 288 fps.
1:33 that frame sums it all up.
Beat both as my two hardest levels and had way more trouble finishing ICDX. This very last ship part is something I‘ll never be consistent at for some reason…
1:58 start
My favourite series
Good video! I'm currently working on it, and it is going to be my first extreme
IDEA: how hard is Haunted Corridor?
i tried to beat cata for a while, practiced the drop and rest of level to save the predrop for last. after 2 weeks of practicing the drop, i realized that i physically could NOT do the mini wave and was devastated. currently playing acu :v
You should do how hard is bloodbath next
My ratings:
0-6% - 0.7: You only really die here if you try to get the coin and even then it's still easy
6-15% - 4.2: Insanely hard with tight gaps
18-25% - 2.8: Not too difficult just kind of weird gameplay
25-28% - 2.6: Not too tight wave but low visibility gives it the difficulty
28-35% - 3.0: When you know the click pattern it becomes really easy. The double click is hard and so are the timings
35-40% - 2.8: Pretty tight ufo but the click pattern is easy to learn and master
40-43% - 3.5: Really difficult but it can become consistent with a good click pattern (I usually do 1 2 3 then the portal then 1 2 3 4 then click and hold the orbs)
43-48% - 2.7: The only hard part about this section is the triple orb click at 47/48% where if you click the blue orb for too long you jump on the platform and die
48-64% - 1.8: Not difficult but I did find myself dying from 58-60% because of the weird ufo and semi-difficult ball clicks and weird straight-fly at the end
64-75% - 3.8: This part is insanely difficult. Not much else to say
75-100% - 1.0/2.8: This part is 2 ratings because on it's own it's insanely easy but with nerves it becomes very difficult.
my opinion:
0-6%: easiest part, every timing is a buffer and it's pretty easy to memorize
6-15%: the second hardest part of the entire level, the timings are pretty tight but it slowly becomes consistent with practice
18-25%: second easiest part of the drop, pretty easy to learn, the ship control is kinda hard but if you're playing in 120hz or more it becomes pretty easy
25-28%: this wave at first is pretty hard but eventually you find a click pattern that becomes pretty consistent
28-35%: the second hardest part of the drop, this ball is pretty hard to learn but with time you learn it, but it's still a massive run killer due to it's second part
35-40%: probably a massive ufo skill issue from my part, but it's just impossible to get consistent on it, everytime i get here i pray to rngezus because i just can't get consistent
40-43%: the hardest part of the entire level, even though it's really short, the difficulty here increases by a lot, getting into the clubstep monsters with the right angle is crucial but really hard to do, combining with the nerves, this part becomes hell, but this is the final push in cataclysm for me, after this, everything becomes a battle against your nerves
43-51%: the first input on this part is pretty hard, but after that everything flows really well
51-64%: the hardest part that it's not in the drop, it's pretty easy to just click to early or too late when you're nervous, just keep calm, this part also flows really well and it's pretty easy once you master it
64-75%: this part is pretty easy if you're playing in 120hz or more, the only thing that can kill you is your nerves, you're at the final stretch of cataclysm so they're here and in big amounts
75-100%: don't celebrate too early, this wave can be really tricky if you're not prepared, just focus on fighting your nerves, after the wave, your last enemy will be a 4 block wide regular straight fly, it's pretty easy to pull of, and after all of this, you've beaten this legendary demon
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He is back bois!
How on earth did we not see this coming
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my personal ratings as a 60 hz player:
first cube: 0.3
first wave: 4.3
drop ship: 3.3
mini wave: 2.8
ball: 2.5
ufo: 2.3
40 ship: 4.0
cube: 3.5
piano part: 2.0
last ship: 4.8
last wave: 1.7
ending: 2.0
the last ship on 60 hz is absolutely brutal. i've sunk a few thousand attempts into it already and it is only just starting to get somewhat consistent.
Hot take: cata is harder to get consistent with than bloodbath (mainly the first half, that is)
Can you do some unrated extreme demons? Like Requiem or something like that?
you have a pretty accurate opinion on this level
Do how hard is firework
The hardest part imo is the ship since i keep beating stupidly unbalanced wave challenges in the insane recent tab and wave is my best gamemode
I did the math and the level got an overall average score of 2.76, which places it at high end insane demon. Is this a flaw with the difficulty system presented in this video? probably. Either you're personally underrating the parts or your difficulty system is disproportionate, both of which are very possible cases. (I added all the ratings up to get 30.4 and divided it by 11 because that is how many parts this video separates the level into)
Finding the average score is a terrible measure since a 4.0 score isn't 33% harder than a 3.0 score , it's more like 2x harder so of course the average score won't make sense lol
@@bluex6095 right makes sense
Next should be how hard is "The Lost Existence"
for me the first wave is relatively easy, the first ship is easy the ball right after is difficult and basically the rest of the level up until the piano section is difficult, but the ship at 40% is impossible to me and the rest of the level is easy. I am on 75hz btw
Welcome back
OK as we got a easy extreme you should do either silent clubstep new or old, old tartarus (silent akbar ) or vulnix a next to impossible layout
Doing this level rn, I could agree more, that first wave is infuriating and wave is my best game mode lol
One thing I disagree with is that the cube at 46 gets really easy once you’ve learned it at least for me
Btw my progress is 46-100 and 36 from 0 is 4k att
My progress is 24%-100% and 74% from 0%. I can tell you that 43%-49% part is a lot harder when you actually get there.
I died 6 times at 46% and 16 times at 48%. Considering how hard it is to get to 43% on Cataclysm this is really unfortunate…
@@THEL05gj on 80%
Can you rate wistfully, Arcturus or MINUSclub? Those are some of the hardest impossible levels
Minusclub is next to impossible to rate, arcturus is as close to a 9 but is a 8.95 and wistfully is unknown but they are good submits
@@theicelord277 why is MINUSclub near impossible to rate
for how much I’ve practiced this myself that first ship is so much harder than the first wave wtf
There is a difference between particing and going for the completion. Average player actually dies about 200 times more on the wave than on the ship part.
I fully agree
its back lets gooo
i missed this serie.. also i think i wanna try cc now.. unless it's as unbalanced as windy landscape it's so annoying
Man it's been a while
In my opinion the first wave is like 2.3 but the rest of the level following it is the same difficulty as in the video but +1, the 64 ship especially, for me feels something like 6 because of my skillset
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WAIT WHAT HE UPLOADED
Ima be honest, cataclysm is probably the one of the easiest extreme demons now, compared to the new extreme demons that come out every week, they are make cataclysm seem like a hard demon
I started trying to beat this like 2 weeks ago, i have gotten 50% progress, i believe i can fluke from there
I am playing this level for my first extreme and for me the last ship is hard for me because of nerves and i died to the 74 gap four times
You should do how hard is kill bot
i think you overrated the 27 wave
Yes easiest wave in the level by far. The transition is sometimes bugged though…
@@THEL05thank God I'm not the only one who finds the mini wave easier than the 75 wave
If all the level was as hard as the very first wave, it would be around Sakupen Hell difficulty IMO. Other thing is that on mobile p, the entre level is brutal. Like around TOP 20 on mobile lista so Cataclysm is still a really tough level on mobile
I would like to see a how hard is Awakening Horus, it is one of my favourite levels and it is also considered to be an easy extreme
i have beaten Cataclysm in 6 attempts, fluke from 25%. Didn't record sadly, i was training.
I just watched over half this video in 1.5 speed and didnt even notice. wtf.
I'd wanna see a how hard is wavebreaker. Idk i just like the level lol and i'm trying to beat it rn (6 deaths past 90, 1 death on the last triple jump :D)
awesome anylisis
My ratings (I've played a couple thousand attempts of cataclysm, and done the entire second half in one run)
First Cube: 0.5
First Wave: 4.5 (The Mini parts difficulty to the spacing makes it even exceed many short wave parts from Sonic Wave, not kidding)
First Ship: 3.25
Second Wave: 2.75
First Ball: 3.75
First UFO: 3.5
Second Ship: 4
Second Cube: 2.5
Second Ball/Memorization Part: 2.25
Third Ship: 3.75
Ending (Wave-Final Straight Fly): 2
Basically, I just thought your ratings were a little low for some parts, and that it was way too high for a part or two
:)
Tbh, the first wave isn't as hard as you said.
I was wondering if you could make a how hard is 8o video? I was trying to beat it for a month before giving up so I was wondering how hard you think it is
IMO your video is very unaccurate in many aspects. Thats why I will say my opinion:
-On the first wave I agree 4.0, like your average TOP 100 demon nowadays or Sakupen Hell difficulty (But in 2015 LOL)
-The ship I would say more than hard, its very akward, I will out it an 2.3, an insane demon difficulty.
-The next miniwave is pretty easy. I died there less times than on the very first cube so I will put a 0.8
-The ball is pretty tricky but it gets pretty consistent with the time and its the most fun part of the level so a 1.8
-The UFO is considerabely easier than the ball, still you can die there a few times so I will put a 1.5
-Puff, this hard for me is way harder than the first wave but luckily its pretty short, I will put a 4.3. Slighty harder than the first wave but is on the 40% mark so it hurts more to die there.
-Next cube, is like the ball, quite tricky but get consistente and its pretty fun, a 1.5
-Minicube and link ball are basically a break but you have to be careful still, a 1.2
-This ship is very tough, mainly for its duration. 60% of my attempts learning this level were trying to beat this entire ship and its on the end so its almost imposible to not die there at least once. A 3.5
-The last parte is pretty easy but I recomme d practicing the miniwave for extra safety. A 1.2
And thats it. I think you overrated Cataclysm a little bit lol. I think that your videos about modern extreme demons are very accurate but on the old ones not that much, probably because you are starting to beat extremes. Because you take a lot of attempts, you overrated them accidentaly. I think thats normal when you a beating levels that are way harder than your hardest level before but it is just a recommendation.
Or maybe is because I play on mobile, the difference between one difficulty and another is way more evident so its easier to say accurate difficulties for me.
I also think that your difficulty ratings are very low to compare easier level. For example 2.0 is a insane demon but the number "2" makes it seems that is way easier.
Still love your vídeos and its very good to know that you are still active in this community :D
Oh thing I would do is stop saying “here’s a clip of the next section,” we kinda get the point, no need to put it every timr
Soo i think i can share MY opinion since i beat it
0-6% i agree
6-15% i disagree.Half the time when i got to the first wave i beat it and it wasnt even hard to learn,Its just inconsistent.For me is a 3.2
18-25% i agree
25-28% i strongly disagree.This wave is like the first wave but its more spammy,at 0.5 speed and has wider spaces.For me is a 1.8
28-35% i agree
35-40% i agree
40-43% i agree
43-48% i disagree.I think this is the hardest part of the level because EVERY CLICK IS A FUCKIN TIMING plus its 3x speed. its a 4.1 for me
48-64% i agree
64-75% i kind of agree but i think is a 3.0
75-100% i agree
Overall, really unbalanced, I think it should be an insane demon. Enjoyment 5/10
Why enjoyment 5/10? It should be -23487524379857248935/10 since there isn't a single good part in the level.
@@powgie7 yes but its easy for an extreme
@@rhd-_-2854 I meant enjoyment. I'm not arguing the difficulty of the level.
@@powgie7 yea but thats a part of the enjoyment. Plus the 2nd half is like medium demon so yeah
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I disagree with a lot of these takes and I would know since I've completed cataclysm over 500 times (I'm not joking, look in the description of my AfterCataBath completion)
I prefer the old version of old cataclysm, tbh, i recommend you to beat that version before the buffed rated one
NONONONONO. The old version is even worse since the first ship has the worst ship gameplay ever and it's insanely stupid.
@@powgie7 i had beaten the old version and once you now the pattern, the first ship its not that bad imo
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No
The first wave is the hardest part... is what i would say if i was on 240hz
How about Misanthrope? While it is obviously not finished, there's a layout in the servers
dont really agree with the first waves rating, for me it got consistent after a while but the 40% ship was something i could never get consistent at even after thousands of attempts, but besides that good vid
It makes me crave garlic bread
This feeling when I watch this. This is hard and this is like 7% people can beat this
so weird to see how possible cataclysm is
edit 7 months later: 89% x2 :(
What is the piano music playing in the beginning?
whats the name of the first song after the intro?
its hype
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@@Tyler_09 I actually found it in youtubes audio library under the name fast and run a few months ago its funny that someone uploaded it as a different song
Can you please do how hard is the rupture?
Its really hard 😭 i hate so much the first wave and the duel ship i definitely would say that there way to many easier extreme demons
Totally ! Even some higher tier ranked extremes such as Deception Dive feel a lot easier.
So it's back
5:10 You can pretap all 3 orbs thats what I do
can you make how hard cold sweat really is?
It's been so long
Since I last have seen my son
Lost to this monster
@@Prometheus_Alt to the man behind the slaughter
Do one on Hypersonic! :)