NETHERLANDS NS SPRINTER SLT TRAIN REVIEW / DUTCH TRAIN TRIP REPORT
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 ต.ค. 2020
- Hello and welcome to another trip report!
Today we're back in The Netherlands to review an NS Class 2600 Sprinter commuter train. This is a 6-car train (the 4-car being the Class 2400). We'll be travelling between Utrecht & Den Haag on a 1 hour & 7 minute journey. Enjoy the ride!
Date of Filming: 12/7/20
Camera: GoPro Hero 7 Black
Operator: NS (Nederlandse Spoorwegen)
Departure: Utrecht Centraal, The Netherlands
Arrival: The Hague / Den Haag Centraal, The Netherlands
Cost: €12.90 (Single Class)
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As someone growing up in the Netherlands, with parents that didn't have a car, I had my fair share of train travelling, but only realized how much I loved it before having a taste of the public transport in other countries (or realizing how much I dislike the whole tedious process of flight trips), no matter how a lot of Dutch people love to complain about trains being a few minutes late ;) But it's really cool to see how other people experience this and it seems like you put quite some effort in it, while enjoying it so much, I really appreciate!
Thanks for sharing ☺️
The Dutch trains are one of the efficient train network system I think. I am in Belgium, Dutch train facilities are definitely better than here.
at Dutch stations you do not leave from a platform but from the track. so it is not platform 20 but track 20. as you see in some stations, there is sometimes an extra track between the tracks on the platforms for, among other things, passing and shunting trains and that also counts. for example in Amsterdam where the platform opposite track 1 is called track 3 because it is an extra track in between that also counts as track 2 but there are no platforms on that track
6:09 You are absolutely right about toilets being retrofitted in these trains. They are placed in one the bike areas in the train. Around 50% of the trains have been fitted already and the whole fleet should be fitted by 2022 (~130 trains).
Thanks for confirming that! I'm sure another one I went on had a toilet LOL
One thing to add to this. Around 2009/10 there were many complaints about the lack off toilets. NS' first response was that in emergencies a plastic bag was to be provided and to have staff take the people who really needed to pee to the control room (idk of that's the right word) that isn't in use so they have some privacy. Obviously the train operators weren't happy that their workplace was also a toilet in cases of emergency. In 2011 a mock-up was built in one train to see whether or not a toilet would be built in. NS decided that they wouldn't build in toilets in the short term. Meanwhile the Dutch government decided that in all new trains toilets where mandatory for any and all lines. It took untill 2016 for NS to decided that yes, toilets are a must in these trains, and they started inegrating them 2018. They now state that it was foolish to ever think toilets in trains weren't necessary.
It was a scandal that these trains didn't originally came with toilets build in. The NS boasted that the train was accessible for anyone with their low floors, but never considered people with bladder/intestinal problems, and had the audacity to ask them to do their business in a bag.
Don't get me wrong, I don't hate the NS, this is just a major fuck-up on their side.
@@blauw67 The problem is that these trains function both as an S-Bahn (in which case you don't really need a toilet) on some lines, and as a cross-country service (in which case you're en route for much longer, and you _do_ need a toilet) in others. This might be a case where they forgot about the second category.
@@bomcabedal I think the intention is that people would use the intercity services when going longer distances, which on the one hand is fair enough - going full up utrecht to The Hague in a Slet is bonkers - but on the other hand, what if you need to go from one station out of utrecht to one station out of The Hague? Take the sprinter to the main station, then the intercity, and then another sprinter to your destination? You *could*, but just taking the sprinter is much easier and quicker after transfer times. And then you have a journey that is nearly the full length.
@@JasperJanssen Obviously that makes good sense. What I was referring rather is to the process that may have led policy makers to decide to leave out toilets: a focus on brief Randstad journeys, at the expense of longer ones elsewhere.
The trip was very relaxing, it is true that it is very fun to do transport reports and when everything is empty or quiet, one can play more and it is more fun hahaha. I know that feeling. Thank you very much for sharing the trip, the train seemed very nice and the report was the same. Greetings from Chile!
Buenos días! Yes, it's great when it's quiet haha
Great video !!
Thanks!
Brilliant video! I found the metro/trams in Amsterdam efficient and easy to use. I'm a new subscriber to your channel. 😊 Looking forward to your next upload!
Thanks a lot! I've plenty of old videos for you to watch too ☺️
But it’s so expensive for the world
Rotterdam metro's are smoother
Really enjoyed this. I have watched a lot of the Driver videos from the Netherlands, so it was great to see what its like to ride in the passenger cars. I have subscribed to see more of your excellent work.
Thank you! There's another Dutch train coming up next week too ☺️
@@NonstopEurotrip Look forward to it.
the track right next to where you boarded goes to my home place! the train you took came from there! Houten
Greetings 😀
Good work!!
Thank you! Cheers!
The trip felt so peaceful.
It was nice & quiet!
Weird to think that this train model from 2007 is now the oldest rolling stock dedicated for local train service in the NS fleet. Mat 64 is gone, SGM is gone, "railhopper" never got off the ground and DD-AR has been re-purposed for intercity service.
Yea it is weird and after a few years it will have a midlife revision. (Well, I kinda don't want because I like the SLT in the current colors)
@@SLT2609 Having toilets on board would be a welcome improvement (the sole reason we don't have more of these driving around)
@@OnionChoppingNinja Exactly. Luckily now all trains including SLT have a toilet on board.
I hope next year you will definitely film the ICNG. I've seen the pictures of interior and it's really awesome. In spring they will start first on international route Amsterdam - Brussel - Amsterdam on South high speed line.
I very much hope to 🥰
Hey this is the trip I’m gonna do Friday
5:42 those sockets have been taken care of in the newest iteration
Excellent!
I love SLT train,because I always take this train from Schiphol airport to Amsterdam downtown when I travel to Netherlands.
Very nice 👍🏻🙂
I also love SLT. It's my favorite! (I think nowadays you have more SNG than SLT tho)
The previous station of Utrecht Centraal was also a transport hub. Train, city and regional busses and a "sneltram" (quick tram), same as now. It also has the largest bike parking in, well... basically the world (12.500 bikes, it was Tokyo with 10000, we can not allow that of course, the bike country of the world needs the biggest :P)
Judging by your entry point to the station I guess you stayed at NH Hotels (or you went fancy and went to Hamptons by Hilton). I hope you took the time to visit the city and enjoyed my hometown
Wow very interesting, thank you 🙏🏻
I love train
Me too!
DO. MORE. DUTCH. TRIP. REPORTS
Yes sir 😂
Utrecht Centraal actually has 16 platforms, but due to the station being completely renovated the numbering system is a little messed up. It also has way more passengers than 200.000 because most people just change trains and don't leave the station, and they only count the passengers checking in and out of the station
Thank for the information 😊👌🏻
@@NonstopEurotrip no problem😁
Dont know if this apllys here but numbering in the nl is by track not platform even tracks without platforms
About 40 minutes ride to Hague with every stop on its way
Of course the main reason for the long travelling time is actually the long wait at Woerden station. Remove that and you'd end up with a travel time of about 48 to 55 minutes, which is not bad considering it stops everywhere.
Yep, for sure!
I always see this train at the platform in Woerden station. The Sprinter to The Hague Central needs to let the Sprinter to Rotterdam pass (my train). And at Gouda station it needs to let the IC to The Hague pass (my train after transfer at Gouda). They need to double the two tracks between Woerden and The Hague. To diminish waiting times and increase the amount of trains. There are only four ICs between The Hague and Gouda in rush hour and they are all full. If we want more people to take the train instead of the car, then there must be enough capacity on the rails. Two tracks are too little. The same can be said between Gouda and Rotterdam. Capacity must be up. I have a first class business card and I sometimes have to stand at the entrance hall because there is no seat available in first class, let alone second class.
@@RealConstructor It will be fairly costly to double the tracks due to the fact that we have a swampy instable soil.
@@waldogadellaa It will be more costly for nature if people will take the car instead of the train, because of too little capacity.
The 200 000 passenger figure is just the people checking in and out at that station! Since Utrecht is a major hub that number would probably be a lot higher if people changing trains there were included!
Like every station's figures 😂
@@NonstopEurotrip Well yes, but Utrecht is also a transfer station rather than a destination, its the central hub of the entire network. This is definitely not true for a lot of large railway stations in major cites like London or Paris because there the transfer would be to local modes like metro systems. The city only has 360.000 inhabitants, yet the station is larger than Amsterdam or Rotterdam Centaal. Also, when you transfer you dont have to check in or out, because all the train journeys are serviced by the same provider, the NS, so all these passengers are not registered in the way they would be if they would transfer on the the Paris Metro or the London Underground for example. The Netherlands is of course so compact and densely populated that a lot of local train services act almost like a metro or light rail service over very short distances with a lot of stops but these transfers are therefore not counted towards the number of travelers that use Utrecht CS.
To compare: About 900 trains depart from the station daily. Paris Gare du Nord, the busiest train station in Europe as you know, has almost 4 times the number of passengers that use it as a destination, but only sees about 1500 departures a day, so not that much more actually. So its not exactly like every stations figures. Now I appreciate that there are more figures that play a role like the capacity and of course occupancy of the trains, but then again, a lot of the trains departing from Utrecht CS are rather long and crowded double-deckers.
There's other versions of our sprinters too, there's a model that, to my knowledge, mostly runs from Wijchen to Zutphen
I believe there's a Stadler FLIRT version too
I just looked in the NS app and the one I'm talking about is SNG, the FLIRT also goes past Wijchen from Dordrecht to Arnhem Centraal (or other way around)
@@bigmemvb FLIRT is mostly confined to lines south of the big rivers. You'll find them in Gelderland, Brabant and South Holland. There are only 58 FLIRT units, making them the least common Sprinter model, and they're usually mixed in with other Sprinter types. Zutphen-Wijchen used to be FLIRT only, but now has a mix of FLIRT and SNG like the other lines in FLIRT land.
The FLIRTS were bought in a hurry as the Mat 64 units were not going to pass another certification. They basically phoned Stadler and ordered whatever model and trim level was fastest to produce. It's rather surprising that they even bothered with the custom interiour.
While the FLIRTS where being built, NS wrote out a tender for a true replacement of Mat 64 that was won by CAF and led to the:
SNG (Sprinter Nieuwe Generatie)
Basically a CAF Civity with some NS specific modifications, SNG is the replacement for the old stopping service trains "Mat 64" and will be the most common Sprinter train type when all the orders are fulfilled (206 units).
The NS specific modifications are slim and basically come down them being to slightly higher to match the Dutch standard platform height and a type of seat not normally found in Civity models (but otherwise off the shelve seats nonetheless).
SLT (Sprinter Light Train)
SLT, shown here, was to be the replacement for Mat 64 too, with NS planning to order hundreds of them in varying lengths, but all kinds of problems with the first two batches of trains made NS decide not to order any more of them. The lack of toilets was one of those problems, but also the inability to handle powdery snow in winter and dificulty accelerating on wet rail.
Most of these have since been remedied though, with NS having SLT modified to be more similar to its ancestor, the German BR425. This includes a redesigned air intake to prevent the problems with snow and a new traction control system that prevents wheel slip on wet rail. The retrofit of toilets is now done.
SGMm (StadsGewestelijk Materieel (gemoderniseerd))
The very first generation Sprinter, SGMm, has been retired from service in December 2021. There are three units left, all in running condition. Two of those are owned by the Dutch National Railway Museum (NSM) and they plan to run one of them from Utrecht Centraal to the museum on summer weekends.
The third running SGMm unit is owned by ProRail because SGMm was the last generation of trains that can be used to deploy anti wheel slip composite on the rails.
SM90
There's one other Sprinter type train that everybody, even train fans in the Netherlands, always forget: SM90 (Stoptrein Materieel 90). This train was planned to replace Mat 64 (yes, they've been trying to replace Mat 64 for a long time and with lots of different train types... but SNG finally killed it). It was a failure; breaks were overheating because the ED brake couldn't be used, the glue that held the wheels to the axels was slowly dissolving and rust problems. It was retired after only 13 years of service and with only 9 units built.
SM90 ran exclusively on the Zwolle - Emmen line because of the proximity to the stock's maintenance yard...
No units survived, but the electric technology used is also present in VIRM (SM90 and VIRM sound the same when accelerating) and the interior of SM90 is a lot like its diesel powered sister model DM90 (of which a unit survives in the NSM).
Very nice trip report the Netherlands is very modern country and the public transport too in terms of filming you shouldn't have to be self conscious but as we live in an era where everyone is suspicious of people filming (but not CCTV unknown cameras) filming
I don't like waving the camera in people's faces if I can avoid it!
@@NonstopEurotrip I don't film people's faces either but I mean in general people are more concerned about being filmed by someone else but not concerned about being watched on CCTV live cameras by potentially unknown organisations etc and people are definitely more suspicious nowadays
Nice, that train currently stops in my home town. Have you ridden in the previous version wich had the nickname dogshead?
Of the dogshead there was another version not in dutch service wich had a longer nose and was in a dark green color but for the rest the same
I haven't 😥
@@NonstopEurotrip don't worry it's not the end of the world😉
The SLT also stops in my town. :-)
@@SLT2609 nice!
1:46 Utrecht Centraal does not really have 21 platforms. Platforms 6, 10, 13, 16 and 17 don't exist (anymore).
Also, platforms 1 through 4 can only be used in one direction.
Thanks for the information!
apart from track 6 which was only accessible like tracks 1 to 4 from the west. 10, 13, 16 and 17 were only through tracks. these were removed to make the platforms wider to accommodate more travellers.
@@koenmeier8553 I know you are right about 6, 10 and 13, but I thought 16 and (partly) 17 did have a platform next to them before.
Yea, we don't really call them platforms. Instead, the numbers stand for the rails at the station, even those that don't stop on a platform.
Certain stations like Bijlmer ArenA count subway rails as well, which is quite interesting.
The impressive part of Utrecht is not really the number of platforms, but the amount of trains serving them. Most platforms (except for 1, 2, 3 and 4) have a departure every 10 to 15 minutes, making Utrecht the best-served train station in the country. When the time table is restored to normal, there will for instance be a train to Amsterdam every 5 minutes (alternating between Amsterdam Zuid/Schiphol and Amsterdam Amstel/Centraal)
7:55 one small correction: while this is true for almost the whole country there are some routes that require an extra fee of 2,60. Those are the IC direct routes between Amsterdam/Den Haag and Breda (after that some of them go to belgium but most passangers are domestic). Also if you want to travel with the ICE international domestically it requires the same fee (although there are some subscriptions like student public transport that dont require it)
Thanks for the info! 😊
@@NonstopEurotrip there is no fee needed between Breda and Rotterdam, only between Rotterdam and Schiphol... so also no fee needed between Amsterdam and Schiphol.
Which is funny considering that the route Almere C to Amsterdam CS and vice versa is more direct. Cause it’s only stop is in each other’s terminus. And has no surcharge or extra cost.
(I know it’s about the HSL but it’s kinda weird that the NS calls AMS CS via Schiphol and Rotterdam to Breda direct).
Depends a bit on the staff. I once missed my intercity from Hilversum to Zwolle but a few minutes later a Gerrman ICE turned up right behind me. I asked the conductor if I could hop on for the short trip to Amersfoort where I had to change anyway, and she said of course. Amersfoort was very busy so I rode on to Deventer and changed for Zwolle there. No extra cost, and very comfy first class seats.
@@TheSynecdoche I think you've mistaken the InterCity to berlin with the ICE. Interior of both trains is pretty familiar but it's a loco-hauled train and not the high-speed one.
BTW: With a normal ticket you can just enter that train as well! The IC-Berlin acts like a normal InterCity when in the Netherlands so you can just hop on the train with your OV-chipkaart, no extra costs
the sprinters originally do not have a toilet because they are intended for short trips and you can also use the toilets at the stations. they often also drive on longer routes such as Utrecht to the Hague but the passengers will never take this train for the entire ride because on that route you can also take the intercity that stops at fewer stations, is faster on long distances and therefore has a toilet.
Well, my route is not a long route but I always see people going to the toilet and from my experience: if you really need to go to a toilet then even a small(er) route would be too long to wait.
Is this the Stoptrein service?
Yes
How can it be this dude always goes on the older trains here?
I think I've been on all the Dutch trains actually 🤣
Those intercitys you find intresting. We call them "koploper". It means headwalker. Back in the days before renovation. The trains can coupled toghether and then there will be doors open then there is coming a walkway out and then youncan walk to the other train. But the costs went to high sonthe remove it
Sorry for my bad english
Your English is fine! Much better than my Dutch! I plan to ride a Koploper this year 😊
Basically sounds like most JR limited express trains in Japan (with the driver cab located above the walkway)
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In Dutch we count tracks not platforms. It is not the same. Therefore there are 21 tracks at Utrecht but not 21 platforms. This reason for this is that some tracks, which are counted, do not have platforms. These are basically tracks for trains which do not stop at Utrecht. This happens at other station too.
Ahh thanks for that ☺️
This is not entirely correct (anymore; there used to be pass-through tracks but they have been removed during the station's last renovation).Track 6 splits and merges with track 5 and 7 on the west side of the station and doesn't exist inside or on the east side of the station (hence platform 5 and 7 form an island platform without a platform 6). Track 10 merges with track 11 also on the west side of the station, the part inside the station was removed to make space for a widened island platform 11/12. The same happened to track 13, which no longer exists altogether. Track 16 and 17 are head-end tracks which end on the west side of the station, without platforms, they are meant for cleaning and buffering of extra trains that are only used during rush hours (actually there are even more tracks on this spot but they are oddly numbered 105-107). However most tracks have an A-side and a B-side, making it essentially two platforms/tracks. For example the Sprinter to The Hague leaves from platform (or track, as you like) 20A whereas platform 20B is for Sprinters the other direction (towards Houten). So you could argue that Utrecht Central has less than 21 platforms, but another way of looking at it is that it actually has a lot more.
@@puikepuck I know but at the time of writing I was not aware of that. I don’t live in or near Utrecht. Though at Amsterdam CS I think it is still true.
I see your point. Though I count 10A and 10 B as one (1) platform. Schiphol has enormous train platforms. I believe a 16 car long train can stop there. Yet they do not use 1A and 1 B, although they totally could. Platform wise.
@@NonstopEurotrip You’re welcome.
Ah yes the weird platform numbering of the Netherlands. I used to depart from Sittard, a station with 4 platforms, called track 1, 2, 3 and 20. With track 20 right next to track 1.
when you use this Transport Card you can book with 40 % discount (!) outside the comuter hours.
Also you can use this one card to pay for any Transport in the Country! This card is only 7 euro and can save you a ton of money in NL.
In my eyes (living in Berlin), the dutch having a clever and maybe best organized traffic over all in Europe. Gut gemacht
Ah brilliant! Thanks for the info!
@@NonstopEurotrip you need to buy the ticket at the machine though, not just enter at the barrier. The nice staff of NS will sure help you :)
PS: thanks for your great content!!
Actually the card itself, we call it ‘OV Chipkaart’, similar to the London Oyster card, doesn’t give you any reduction. The mentioned 7 euro’s is the price for the card itself. It saves the 1 euro supplement on paper tickets and for BTM you pay a boarding + km-fee. Valid for 5 years. The reduction you are talking about requires a subscription from NS. It is called ‘Dal Voordeel’ for €5/month for mon-fri checkin before 6:30, between 9:00-16:00, after 18:30, weekend whole days. Or ‘Weekend Voordeel’ for just the weekends, €2/month. The ‘card’ is free with a subscription over €5/month.
Gouda is my hometown
Lovely cheese 🧀❤️
8:56 Video's final score: 10
5 for not to fail this video
5 for the whole trip report
Another 10/10, I'm doing well!
Please note that some platform numbers are missing. This is because the numbers correspond with the tracks, not the platforms, and some of the tracks dont have platforms and are meant for freight and stuff.
I understand now 🤣
Nonstop Eurotrip yeah, i was quite confused when i noticed it first. So i asked one of my teachers (he is a train spotter) and he explained it.
additionally, it can also be that a track is removed or does end before the station starts. Which gives the wonderful effect of track 5 and 7 being on the same platform.
is there place to charge your phone on the train?
Unsure, tbh.
on some of the relatively recent ones (I think 3 years old refits) you have chargers in 1st class. And for the new InterCity refits (VIRMm-2 and -3), they have usb chargers in 2nd class and (I think) normal sockets in 1st class.
The complaint of every Dutch student travelling by train - nowhere to charge your laptop!
In the most Dutch trains there are power plugs underneath the chairs :)
Pretty sure these don't though?
@@NonstopEurotrip This is one of the old sprinters, the new ones all have a power outlet and 2 usb ports under every set of seats
@@NonstopEurotrip In 2nd and 1st class btw, also they have toilets now
@@NonstopEurotrip You are right. And I don't expect the power sockets to be installed afterwards.
@@waldogadellaaDon't worry, after a few years the SLT will receive a midlife revision and they might still get power sockets.
Just a small correction: these trains are known as the SLT or Sprinter Lighttrain. The 2600 "class" is just for registration, 2400 series are the same trains but shorter.
The actual Class 2600 was a small series of diesel locomotives in the 50s.
Thanks for letting me know!
To be precise: 2400 are 4-carriage sets, 2600 are 6-carriage sets. I'm sure you noticed the pattern here. ;)
Correct we don’t use a “class” system in the Netherlands. We use the name of the train. The number is just for planning and such.
Well, you coulve taken the intercity to the hague.
But I wanted to ride the sprinter 😏
Nonstop Eurotrip thats fair.
3:09
That hissing is air conditioning, as you might expect
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Late response, but online e-tickets cost the same but don't require you to pay the 1 euro printing fee
Thanks 🙏🏻
this train is the shizznitt , it got me directly from Purmerend to Antwerp and back for e12,80. That's a pretty sweet deal, pay $15 CAD to include another country in my little vacation I've been planning for 12 years in my journey - My only regret is not including more
Picture a bit blurry and not as crisp as previous videos.
It's a much older one 🙂
Yes, correct with the toilets, this was a mistake when ordering these trains.
Thanks 👍🏻
Why were you surprised with the amount of platforms? did you expect more from a station with 200000 passangers or less?
I didn't expect it to be quite as large & well used as it is 😊
@@NonstopEurotrip it's quite interesting how this station is the most used, but it makes sense. Utrecht is the main hub for trains in the Netherlands. From there trains go everywhere so naturally more people will use it
True, I guess I just assumed Amsterdam Centraal would be the most used station 🤷🏻♂️
@@NonstopEurotrip the only thing keeping it from being the busiest is it's location. Although it's the closest to the city centre, it's not near the office areas. Other stations in Amsterdam are used a lot too, while in Utrecht this is the only real big one
And don't forget to mention, in many Dutch stations, the platforms are split in a A section and B section! Meaning, from the continuous tracks, 2 trains can leave a same track at the same time! (e.g. track 21 here is either 21a or 21b.)
Why your name take the intercity service is half hour faster
Speed isn't everything when you've got all the time in the world 🙂
We will go to Amsterdam from Brussels riding 1st class of this train. My question is, do we have wifi and phone charger? Thank You
This train doesn't go from Amsterdam to Brussels
Thank you, Nonstop eurotrip! Another great video. I like recent trains because they are more airy, nowadays we prefer space, ventilation, openness, brightness, the magnificence of the landscapes. Old trains are really outdated, unless of course it is for tourist purposes, but for long journeys or even shorter ones, they are sometimes painful. But why are all these stations and your train empty? It's deserted and a bit disagreeable from an ecological point of view with so few people.
Thank you! A lovely comment as usual! It's a shame that it was empty but I guess people weren't that confident of travelling again as it was filmed in July!
Thank you ! But it must be said that you make very nice and fascinating videos for a train enthusiast like me. For the lack of passengers, it depends on the dates of containment. I don't know when the Netherlands confined. At home, it was full August in October, I know since we took many trains during this period. Now it's empty again. It's desert, moreover it's not at all safe to travel at this time. We postponed our trips for later. Take care of yourself.
COVID-19 lockdown effect. These trains were always full but public transport is restricted to necessary trips only and people are working from home as much as possible. Rush hours are almost gone. Public transport is making huge losses and if the situation continues it will have to be massively scaled down.
@@colanitower NS announced this week that they were to reduce service to 90% from January 1, 2021. Not really massive as trains normally run every 15 minutes.
With ICM going Utrecht - Gouda - Den Haag you will spend only 40 minutes
But then I couldn't film this train 😜
Now a days there are toilets in this kind of sprinter trains
Oftewel de sl(e)t
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No toilet on the train is not funky for long trips
They all have toilets now
6:17 some of them yes but some of the sprinter trains are toilets
what do you mean with retreofitted or what?
Toilets will be fitted in them
@@NonstopEurotrip oh sorry
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Very bad experience in the Netherlands railways
No CCV camera in the train
Bag stolen
Amsterdam to Netherlands border area
Germany is ok
Could happen anywhere tbh