I think you have some of the best content on TH-cam I’m proud to say you had me from the first video. Super excited to see a 50 BMG build. What would be really cool is if you gave all of us a pre-list of what to buy And we could build along with you.
I want a BAT action! No, sadly I don't have one. What a great previous shop tour and walk thru of the actions by the owner. That Igniter 995.00 one looks like what I need to aspire to next. I like that Vampire one too. Geez they all are great what am I saying.
After seeing the shop tour video I decided on Bat. I had my smith order mine for my 300 Norma build. I can’t wait to have mine all finished. I am already planning on saving for another build to compete in PRS
proud owner of a DS ( old FP with a tungsten washer and mod'spring ) and a 3L that got me 5 th at the last World benchrest championships in Calgary 2019 . Both on Scoville stocks .
I built a 33xc on the Bar CT action! I started out buying a different brand action then sold it before starting the build! Best move ever! Can't wait to build another rifle, I'll definitely be getting another Bat!
I just purchased a Bat CT action also. Going to build a 26 pound 338 Norma. Mc Million A6 Super Mag stock. Kriger MTU 5R barrel 28” . 1-9.3 twist. Trigger Tec Diamond with bottom safety. 3/4x24 threads. Got a reamer from PTG 338 Norma USA Match is the print.
Gavin, Thank you for this video!!! I have long wanted to build a custom bolt action rifle but there are simply SO MANY OPTIONS that I have no idea what to do. I have been shooting a long time and they sometimes use terminology that even I don't understand. More videos like this would be very helpful for guys like me. I have been shooting a long time but pretend that I've never touched a gun before but I wanted you to build me a custom rifle. The first step of selection of the action is the biggest. What footprints are available, what they are compatible with, and many other questions are all rolling around in my head.
Great video, I’ve been looking to build a custom rifle capable of chambering from 223 up to 338 so I’m able to keep the same rifle for practice and purpose. Keep up the good work.
Thank you so much for putting together this informative video, I was interested in the bumblebee and vampire actions, this answered the questions I had😊👍👍
I *think* I have a BAT action...the Nosler people don't/won't say it, but I have one of the first M48 Custom Sporters from 2006 in 300WSM that looks a bunch like a BAT. It's been my favorite rifle for many years now. After watching the video, I want to build one on that Vampire action for a lightweight build.
I have a 300 Norma mag improved being built by Lane Precision Rifles with a BAT action right now. If it works out I’ll probably do a 6 dasher on the 3L BAT next.
@@Ultimatereloader I watch your guys and get a lot of info on subjects and products that I didn't even know existed which is very nice....thanks to all
Hello, looking into Bat Actions. Bolt guns are new to me… currently have a Woox stock, 24” Proof Research Sendero 265 uncut barrel, Elgtman Tactical ELF 700 SE trigger. Maybe for hunting, long range fun. Have never competed. Feedback, thoughts? Am I on the right path? Thanks
What is the title of the build you did with the EX action “that’s going to be unlike anything you’ve ever seen before” lol. I’ve tried going back through and scrolling to find it but no such luck. Lol.
Check out Jamie Dodson out of Pennsylvania. He built me a rifle with the BAT tactical action. It's a crack driver, and he's got some innovative ideas as well.
Seriously considering this for a 300 PRC Build. Too bad the TR isn't available in a Rem LA footprint. Looking at the HR... now with that said. I have read that in the past there were some issues with galling. Has this been addressed with a QPQ process or did the issue get addressed in the hardening of the SS some other way?
I just bought one. However I'm still trying to figure out exactly what lends to the most accurate. I was going to get a DLC coated in SS, however it was explained that the heat used doesn't allow for proper alignment and contact of the tangs. Things like cocking, that upsets the rifle in the rest are a huge element. I'm told that stiffer spring 25# is more unified for ag shooting. Yet it cocks much harder. Need more details. As I'm planning on building mutlipal rifles in different calibers.
Search around about ignition on accurate shooter. The biggest thing is that if you’re not achieving enough firing pin energy youre very possibly leaving some accuracy on the table. Most people won’t notice this but if you’re competing at the highest level of benchrest you will. Bats often have heavier springs than the tactical crowd likes because they aren’t willing to give up that accuracy for less bolt lift weight. In bags, cocking weight seems to upset the rifle less than closing weight, as you’re bracing against the gun. This leads to the pursuit of a neutral handoff that has zero cock on close to eliminate disruption on the closing action. This also means all the cocking action is done on open, so you need to be very careful to have adequate firing pin energy from opening.
@@dangerranger4323 , I've been told that. Currently I have a 3 lug bolt. The short throw equals a hard bolt lift witch is causing the rifle to lift on bolt open. I'm getting around it by pulling down on the rifle when I cycle it. The problem is that takes time. The really good shooters are sending rounds very quickly with a rifle that stays on target. Mike Wison the current group record holder at 1000 yards , is sending the following round while the previous round hasn't even reached the target yet. Smooth is very important when cycling rounds like this
@@joeldubose5762 yup, they shoot very fast. It’s those same LR BR shooters that convinced me light cocking at the expense of ignition energy is just a losing trade. I’m not suggesting your lift should be hard, I’m just saying you’re getting no where if you’re just creating inconsistencies in ignition by making it lighter. The 3 lug aspect makes your situation more understandable, you’re doing the same work in a shorter time and there’s no way around it but a heavier lift or a heavier close. Sorry you’re having issues with yours being so much it upsets the gun
I do want a BAT action to build on. 2 actually. The first one will be for an f class gun. The second one I'll start talking about when the one is all done
This was equivalent to the Taxi Driver gun buying scene for me. And that is really saying something. Look at that, that's a beautiful little gun. Ain't that a little honey?
@@bobbyhaney522 yes, tenacity receiver threads are 700 size and pitch. I have a tenacity, it is a very nice action. The only thing I dislike about it is that the bolt handle is thick so I can’t mount scopes super low on it, but that would only matter for a scope with a 40mm or less objective and wanting it very low. I can’t get a 50mm objective low enough to be an issue. For any tactical type build it’s no problem but for some people with hunting rifles they like small scopes super low. Otherwise, the tenacity is an incredible action for the price, I prefer it over other actions I’ve had that were much more expensive
@@dangerranger4323 Man thanks alot! I built a 6creed with a Remage set up on a stainless action from nortland shooters. It's in a Master piece arms BA chassis and that Tenacity will almost get my build the way i want it. Ive been trying to figure that out for like a month or better. Are you shooting PRS style?
@@bobbyhaney522 I don’t have time to compete right now so I just do prs style stages in my free time. My tenacity is on a long range hunting rifle, so it gets shot in a manner that seems hunting oriented, run up, toss it down and shoot a couple targets as fast as I can accurately.
Omg, is that the best piece of round stock you could find to display the finest actions made???????? I know I’m being ocd but handloading and precision shooting is all about perfection and the dirty rusty pole was too much 😂 otherwise I loved the data. Keep up that good work
If I spent the money to build one of these precision long range guns, I might as well get ready to pay my lawyer too. The wife would not be happy I drained our savings on rifle
Do I want to build a rifle on a bat action? Of course I do, but I’m “cheap”. I use that term loosely, as I want to get a rifle that serves no purpose for me. I want to shoot long range, but going past 300yards is going to take me on a 3-4hr drive across the state. Yes, I can shoot a mile there, but it would be an all day thing to shoot like 50-100 rounds are $1-$2 a round, plus range fees, plus gas and vehicle maintenance, wear and tear, and depreciation, plus food. The thought of buying/building a rifle that’s going to be $1,500.00+ just to spend 1-2 days a year to spend a couple hundred dollars shooting 50-100 long range shots, doesn’t sound or feel cheap at all. It sounds wasteful, frivolous, and dumb. I can’t even hunt deer in my home state with it. There are no wild hogs within hundreds of miles. Coyotes are rarely seen, and you’re probably not going to get permission to hunt where they’re at. Not “cheap” at all! Not even remotely justifiable for any practical purpose. It’s just a fun, well hopefully fun, thing that I would like to try. 5.56/.223 at 300 is just what it is. It’s not hard, it’s fun, but it’s no 1000+ yards with a 300 prc like I want to try. I can’t justify a bergarra hmr and an Arken sh4, let alone a bat action, and everything needed to get the most out of it. Yes a bat action, bartlein barrel, topped with a schmidt and bender pm2, with a Huber trigger, sitting in a custom chassis with an atlas bipod sounds absolutely fantastic. That’s about as justifiable getting a Ferrari in Alaska. Sure sounds fun (for the whole 2 days a year that you can use it), but is just ludicrous to actually do it. Unless you are in an area where you can use it every/every other weekend, plan on rebarreling it a few times, and can afford the ammunition components to shoot it a lot, it’s just not worth it unless you just have money to burn. I’m probably going to get the “budget” bergarra in a
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BAT actions are a work of art. Amazing work by Bruce.
My brother bought me my first bat action and it is a work of art!! Absolutely worth the money
Gavin, thanks for coming out with this video on the different BAT actions. Continue coming out with other great content videos.
I like seeing these types of videos, I'm one of those 1000 yard guys that use a couple BAT actions
I think you have some of the best content on TH-cam I’m proud to say you had me from the first video. Super excited to see a 50 BMG build. What would be really cool is if you gave all of us a pre-list of what to buy And we could build along with you.
I want a BAT action! No, sadly I don't have one. What a great previous shop tour and walk thru of the actions by the owner. That Igniter 995.00 one looks like what I need to aspire to next. I like that Vampire one too. Geez they all are great what am I saying.
Have 6 of them. 1 HR, 2 TR, 1 B, 1 SB, and 1 Igniter. My favorite equipment to build on!
After seeing the shop tour video I decided on Bat. I had my smith order mine for my 300 Norma build. I can’t wait to have mine all finished. I am already planning on saving for another build to compete in PRS
WOW 😲 A thirty two minute video from UR! Actually, 😒It was only nineteen minutes. 😜
Yep, ends a 19:13
@@Bahnamoon Actually that is bad for the algorithm because of average watch time.
The Igniter or TR sounds like what I need for my deer stalking build.
proud owner of a DS ( old FP with a tungsten washer and mod'spring ) and a 3L that got me 5 th at the last World benchrest championships in Calgary 2019 . Both on Scoville stocks .
That's an awesome rundown of BAT actions!
I built a 33xc on the Bar CT action! I started out buying a different brand action then sold it before starting the build! Best move ever! Can't wait to build another rifle, I'll definitely be getting another Bat!
I just purchased a Bat CT action also. Going to build a 26 pound 338 Norma. Mc Million A6 Super Mag stock. Kriger MTU 5R barrel 28” . 1-9.3 twist. Trigger Tec Diamond with bottom safety. 3/4x24 threads. Got a reamer from PTG 338 Norma USA Match is the print.
Would love to build on a Bat Action, maybe someday. Thank for the great video Gavin.
Gavin, Thank you for this video!!! I have long wanted to build a custom bolt action rifle but there are simply SO MANY OPTIONS that I have no idea what to do. I have been shooting a long time and they sometimes use terminology that even I don't understand. More videos like this would be very helpful for guys like me. I have been shooting a long time but pretend that I've never touched a gun before but I wanted you to build me a custom rifle. The first step of selection of the action is the biggest. What footprints are available, what they are compatible with, and many other questions are all rolling around in my head.
Good info, I have wanted to build using a Bat but just have not tried one yet.
I’ve got 6 Bats. Need to get a new left handed Vampire
you should do a receiver action comparison between some of the top guys like Bat, Bighorn, Gunwerks, etc.
Want to build a 6mm Dasher on a Bat Action. Really considering the Igniter after viewing this video. This video was very insightful. Thanks
Great video, I’ve been looking to build a custom rifle capable of chambering from 223 up to 338 so I’m able to keep the same rifle for practice and purpose. Keep up the good work.
Just found the Channel.. Looking to Build a Custom BR gun on a BAT or Borden action. Good Video! Thanks for posting.
I would love to build my first non AR rifle in 6.8 PRC with a BAT action. Thank you for all the great videos.
6.8? Yuck.
Have a rifle being made around the 3L action. Can’t wait to shoot it.
You should do a in depth review on the best custom action for fclass
I went Stiller because it was cheaper. Had it built by Gordy Gritters. Fantastic rifle.
👍 on Bat future build.
Holy Accuracy 🦇 Man!
Bruce is not a man of many words. He’s a man of actions. 😝
Thank you so much for putting together this informative video, I was interested in the bumblebee and vampire actions, this answered the questions I had😊👍👍
I *think* I have a BAT action...the Nosler people don't/won't say it, but I have one of the first M48 Custom Sporters from 2006 in 300WSM that looks a bunch like a BAT. It's been my favorite rifle for many years now. After watching the video, I want to build one on that Vampire action for a lightweight build.
"the igniter is our not so expensive action... that'll be $1,000"
I want 50BMG hunting carbine built on an ESX action. Lets see that build. 🎉
Gavin, great video. It ends at about 19-20 minutes, but there is a whole lot of time with blank screen after it ends. FYI
BAT is the best actions I have 4
I would love to build a 6br or 6 dasher on a bat like u have
A future build from UR: 50 BMG BAT Action @ 2 mile goal. From Build to Range Test. Im in....
A Lefthanded port BAT action in 50 BMG would be a dream build Benchrest rifle for me. Someday soon!
I have a 300 Norma mag improved being built by Lane Precision Rifles with a BAT action right now. If it works out I’ll probably do a 6 dasher on the 3L BAT next.
Yep he built me a Norma on a Defiance
Awesome rifle
This channel has become an extended infomercial.
Waiting on mine
Worth the wait!
@@Ultimatereloader I'm going to do a dasher,just got my dave manson reamer in the mail, my h.s. precision barrel in 1 7.5 twist
@@Ultimatereloader I watch your guys and get a lot of info on subjects and products that I didn't even know existed which is very nice....thanks to all
Good video. I have a doubt (because i don't know about it) The helical shape around the mobile part have a particular function?
Like the sound of the vampire bat action, how do I get one to new zealand?
Super nice and more good information....
BAT needs to make a quick change action like Terminus did.
Tell me about it when I can get primers
Looking for a single feed action for a 33xc build to shoot long range competition. What are my options in the Bat lineup? Thx
BAT bumblebee is on my super lightweight 243 varmint/hod laser. But what super lightweight awsome barrel???
I don't like the price 😕. But would love to build of it.
Hello, looking into Bat Actions. Bolt guns are new to me… currently have a Woox stock, 24” Proof Research Sendero 265 uncut barrel, Elgtman Tactical ELF 700 SE trigger. Maybe for hunting, long range fun. Have never competed. Feedback, thoughts? Am I on the right path? Thanks
All my custom rifle are on 700rem and have 2 custom 70win . The biggest problem is I'm left hand. I'm looking for a action to do a 17 hornet on.
What is the title of the build you did with the EX action “that’s going to be unlike anything you’ve ever seen before” lol. I’ve tried going back through and scrolling to find it but no such luck. Lol.
Well yeah I would love to build a rifle off of one these actions in 7mm rem mag but can’t afford it right now
I want a bat action but they are hard to get here in Canada
Great info!
still waiting on Gavin to build those "Special" builds
What’s the cost of one of these actions for like a 300 Win Mag? Or 28 Nosler?
Seems like a lot of actions there with left side load. Is that better than loading on same side as the bolt knob?
Do they come in left hands as well for magnum rifles?
Check out Jamie Dodson out of Pennsylvania. He built me a rifle with the BAT tactical action. It's a crack driver, and he's got some innovative ideas as well.
Have you had a chance to use your zero press? I'm interested in your thoughts after you run a few thousand rounds through it
Seriously considering this for a 300 PRC Build. Too bad the TR isn't available in a Rem LA footprint. Looking at the HR... now with that said. I have read that in the past there were some issues with galling. Has this been addressed with a QPQ process or did the issue get addressed in the hardening of the SS some other way?
A vampire 3 lug will be awesome
Great Video!
Glad you enjoyed it
I just bought one. However I'm still trying to figure out exactly what lends to the most accurate. I was going to get a DLC coated in SS, however it was explained that the heat used doesn't allow for proper alignment and contact of the tangs. Things like cocking, that upsets the rifle in the rest are a huge element. I'm told that stiffer spring 25# is more unified for ag shooting. Yet it cocks much harder. Need more details. As I'm planning on building mutlipal rifles in different calibers.
Search around about ignition on accurate shooter.
The biggest thing is that if you’re not achieving enough firing pin energy youre very possibly leaving some accuracy on the table. Most people won’t notice this but if you’re competing at the highest level of benchrest you will. Bats often have heavier springs than the tactical crowd likes because they aren’t willing to give up that accuracy for less bolt lift weight. In bags, cocking weight seems to upset the rifle less than closing weight, as you’re bracing against the gun. This leads to the pursuit of a neutral handoff that has zero cock on close to eliminate disruption on the closing action. This also means all the cocking action is done on open, so you need to be very careful to have adequate firing pin energy from opening.
@@dangerranger4323 , I've been told that. Currently I have a 3 lug bolt. The short throw equals a hard bolt lift witch is causing the rifle to lift on bolt open. I'm getting around it by pulling down on the rifle when I cycle it. The problem is that takes time. The really good shooters are sending rounds very quickly with a rifle that stays on target. Mike Wison the current group record holder at 1000 yards , is sending the following round while the previous round hasn't even reached the target yet. Smooth is very important when cycling rounds like this
@@joeldubose5762 yup, they shoot very fast. It’s those same LR BR shooters that convinced me light cocking at the expense of ignition energy is just a losing trade. I’m not suggesting your lift should be hard, I’m just saying you’re getting no where if you’re just creating inconsistencies in ignition by making it lighter. The 3 lug aspect makes your situation more understandable, you’re doing the same work in a shorter time and there’s no way around it but a heavier lift or a heavier close. Sorry you’re having issues with yours being so much it upsets the gun
I do want a BAT action to build on. 2 actually. The first one will be for an f class gun. The second one I'll start talking about when the one is all done
I love my BAT action.
Want a falling block BAT action like they used to produce
I have a BAT action No M54 it is mint
Do they make any unit that takes magazines
Any titanium actions?
Hi I have a BAT in 7.62 serial no 54
I would like to build on a BAT Action but I want a 6mm Dasher Left Bolt Left Port Repeater on a Rem. 700 footprint. What action would that be?
What are the prices of the actions
We need to get these for sale in Europe also
This was equivalent to the Taxi Driver gun buying scene for me. And that is really saying something. Look at that, that's a beautiful little gun. Ain't that a little honey?
What barrel did you mate with your Bat action?
I'm building a 408 chey tac on a Bat Machine model( L)
Why no weatherby or mauser 98 actions
Any of those in left hand bolt
I want one so badly 😫 the affordable one is still not so affordable.
Wow these are spendy but bad ass
What model is your TR action?
👍👍
#SOLD
discount codes?
Good luck
Bwahahaha. They might give you a t-shirt.
Can you use Remage barrel nut setups with the igniter?? I guess what im asking dose the igniter have a standard Remington thread pitch.
No
@@dangerranger4323 thanks, i wonder if that Defiance Tenacity does?
@@bobbyhaney522 yes, tenacity receiver threads are 700 size and pitch.
I have a tenacity, it is a very nice action. The only thing I dislike about it is that the bolt handle is thick so I can’t mount scopes super low on it, but that would only matter for a scope with a 40mm or less objective and wanting it very low. I can’t get a 50mm objective low enough to be an issue. For any tactical type build it’s no problem but for some people with hunting rifles they like small scopes super low. Otherwise, the tenacity is an incredible action for the price, I prefer it over other actions I’ve had that were much more expensive
@@dangerranger4323 Man thanks alot! I built a 6creed with a Remage set up on a stainless action from nortland shooters. It's in a Master piece arms BA chassis and that Tenacity will almost get my build the way i want it. Ive been trying to figure that out for like a month or better. Are you shooting PRS style?
@@bobbyhaney522 I don’t have time to compete right now so I just do prs style stages in my free time. My tenacity is on a long range hunting rifle, so it gets shot in a manner that seems hunting oriented, run up, toss it down and shoot a couple targets as fast as I can accurately.
If you font cut corners, you'll end up with a square billet.
WOW
Omg, is that the best piece of round stock you could find to display the finest actions made???????? I know I’m being ocd but handloading and precision shooting is all about perfection and the dirty rusty pole was too much 😂 otherwise I loved the data. Keep up that good work
If I spent the money to build one of these precision long range guns, I might as well get ready to pay my lawyer too. The wife would not be happy I drained our savings on rifle
What is up with 13 minutes of Black nothingness at the end of the video? Outside of that great video!
Going to reupload it? 13 mins of black screen. =) Good video otherwise.
Im sure the machines he started with in his garage are a little out dated compared to what you have in your shop.... just sayin' !
1700$ for the bumblebee !!!! Geez
There be not a action better than BAT.
Where is thec20mm action? ? Lol
Do I want to build a rifle on a bat action?
Of course I do, but I’m “cheap”.
I use that term loosely, as I want to get a rifle that serves no purpose for me. I want to shoot long range, but going past 300yards is going to take me on a 3-4hr drive across the state. Yes, I can shoot a mile there, but it would be an all day thing to shoot like 50-100 rounds are $1-$2 a round, plus range fees, plus gas and vehicle maintenance, wear and tear, and depreciation, plus food. The thought of buying/building a rifle that’s going to be $1,500.00+ just to spend 1-2 days a year to spend a couple hundred dollars shooting 50-100 long range shots, doesn’t sound or feel cheap at all. It sounds wasteful, frivolous, and dumb. I can’t even hunt deer in my home state with it. There are no wild hogs within hundreds of miles. Coyotes are rarely seen, and you’re probably not going to get permission to hunt where they’re at.
Not “cheap” at all! Not even remotely justifiable for any practical purpose. It’s just a fun, well hopefully fun, thing that I would like to try. 5.56/.223 at 300 is just what it is. It’s not hard, it’s fun, but it’s no 1000+ yards with a 300 prc like I want to try.
I can’t justify a bergarra hmr and an Arken sh4, let alone a bat action, and everything needed to get the most out of it. Yes a bat action, bartlein barrel, topped with a schmidt and bender pm2, with a Huber trigger, sitting in a custom chassis with an atlas bipod sounds absolutely fantastic. That’s about as justifiable getting a Ferrari in Alaska. Sure sounds fun (for the whole 2 days a year that you can use it), but is just ludicrous to actually do it.
Unless you are in an area where you can use it every/every other weekend, plan on rebarreling it a few times, and can afford the ammunition components to shoot it a lot, it’s just not worth it unless you just have money to burn.
I’m probably going to get the “budget” bergarra in a
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