haha I heard the same from a fellow member of SpeedSouls who was trying this online too :D I hope there's not people standing in the air throwing fireballs at invaders now though,I only looked for,and found this for speedrunning purposes and fun :) Of course there's always a-holes abusing things in PvP :/
For anyone interested in not skipping Pontiff,but cheesing him: There is a way you can get into the boss room without triggering the fight,so he just stands there and does nothing while you destroy him :P You already know the skip,so I will leave it to you to figure out how to get in there ;) I did my job,now you go explore and have fun with it :)
ok so meanwhile we found you can skip Pontiff too with this,someone else will make a vid of that I'm sure,I will link it when they do (I'm watching livestream testing and it's been done already)
OK good,Ethel's vid is the one I wanted,he's the one who started testing after I showed the video (he's a friend,I was on his stream :P )He also tested a lot of other places meanwhile,will keep you guys updated if we find a new use for the Denial trick.Expect this to be patched though,it's too big :/
Hilarious glitch. Used it to cheese Aldrich and then went backwards to cheese Pontiff. Turns out you can enter his arena from the second floor and kill him without any risk. Unfortunately the Mimic cannot hurt Pontiff at all. I thought since they can attack fire demons, they can attack everything, but nope. No stupid Mimic vs Pontiff fight.
:O Wonder if this makes builds easier/faster to do, as you can get t-shards from farron keep instead of cathredral, and irythll has lots of large shards. The problem becomes, you can't repec unless you go to cathredral :/ So your stuck with a tears/faith build.
well,this is mostly an easy way to go kill both Aldrich and Pontiff easily (both of them can be killed without them actually doing anything with this skip ),and of course for speedruns. So it's a useful thing,but you will still need to go to kill sage to get to Rosaria. We're still looking for more skips,so who knows,maybe we find a way around Crystal Sage too :P
I'm on PS4.I made the jump, walked off in the right spot, got to land aaaaaaaaaand it wouldn't let me open the menu to quit out. I could do pretty much everything else but both my Options button and the right side of the touchpad did nothing. Not sure if this is just me or PS4 in general, but I figure I should mention it as a possible problem. Or maybe I just did something wrong. Edit: Seems I simply needed to Estus. Didn't do it because it wasn't a written step, but it's what allowed me to actually open my menu. Glad it works, makes getting to Pontiff's area much easier/quicker in NG+ for PvP.
yeah sorry,I shoulda mentioned that.Read the comments below,it's in there too :P Also quitout on the tree ok?You can go anywhere then with 3rd person view :D
PeachyMike It's no problem, figured it out eventually. I was able to quit out on the tree okay but was worse at getting off it in 3rd person so I just gave up on that haha.
It's worth doing it with that quitout though.You can get into Pontiff room and he won't aggro,and under Aldrich room,you can kill them both without them aggroing XD
good find thanks for it.i used it to get past ng+ fast and go str8 to ng+2 for the upgraded rings,worked like a charm finished ng+ in les than 4 hours with breaks alt tabing watching videos and stuff.BUT what i want to know is how the hell u found it :P do u jump everywhere? even if u jumped there u would have to do it multiple times to find that because it needs much precision to land on the platform. liked subscribed.
A friend (Bloodshed novels) did something similar in Catacombs so I thought I'd test it out too in some spots,for speedrunning purposes. This was the spot where it would be most useful,and incredibly enough this is where it works lol A new WR has already been set with this just now,Distortion2 did it. (the guy I call Dist in the video :P )
could u make this video again explaining and showing the exact fall down after the jump when quiting menu. because every time i go forward its always instead death. god dammit i wanna float as well :)
well you need to edge off REALLY carefully like I said,if you walk off normally you go too far and die. If you are on PC,you can use the keyboard to walk,tap it just long enough so your charater goes forward little bits. With controller,it's harder but doable,I did it like that in the video. Also,when you're on the tree,quitout and reload,that puts you on the tree (if you're not far enough on it,you will slide off and die though after quitout). Then use Denial.You can see your character now,so line up your head with a point down below,you need to go slightly to the right so try to line up with one of the creatures,it's just a matter of finding the right direction to fall off to.Adjust little bit till you find it.But you cannot just hold forward and walk off,that's the hardest part,you need to almost slide off,I mess it up too sometimes still,it's just hard to edge forward little bits :P
Yep,and once again partial credit to you for your catacombs video,that's why I even tried this :D FROM please though,how can there be a invisible platform on a tree exactly where we need it :P But seriously,I think you're great finding bugs,I hope you also continue the search,we might break this game yet XD
lol nah man,look at the rocks in the water,and line up the jump to those so you can jump the same direction every time.I get it at least half the time (the complete skip) ,it's very easy after some practice :)
from the tree or later on?I have to add this anyway for everyone so : quitout on the tree,you will then get 3rd person view back.Then watch this and quit out anywhere you like in a normal area,this will help I'm sure :) th-cam.com/video/tKZ-9wnnE6E/w-d-xo.html
did this get patched? I want to do this to keep Cruxifiction Woods with invaders and move on to have the Aldrich Faithful invade zone as well. Then you can kill dancer and choose Lothric Castle or Grand Archives for more late game pvp. damn with the way invades work we should have gotten bonfire ascetics back
Yeah, but as far as I remember, the Cat Ring and Spook only reduce the falling damage. If there's no killzone in the vertical route while falling, you'll survive the drop with ToD. If you just use spook or the cat ring, you'd have to know exactly how much this fall is taking and level/ring up accordingly. Judging from the height of it, it should be a lot.
It's getting patched on the 19th, which is in a few hours so, not really worth me explaining it anymore, will put it in the title when it's actually patched, need to wait and see first. But the patch notes speak of it so.
AltobelloProduction take baby steps and aim slightly left to land in the lake.also quitting out on the tree removes the birds eye view and might make it easier. can't wait to try this myself.
GUYS! Quit out on the tree,reload,THEN do denial ,you will get back 3rd person view then and things get a lot easier. Then you can continue here and cheese or skip Pontiff,and cheese Aldrich from beneath.just find spots to change your height,you'l get there :) here's the vid th-cam.com/video/tKZ-9wnnE6E/w-d-xo.html
It still works though, but it's difficult. Can you get on the tree? From there, it depends where you land on it. after landing on the tree, quit out. Then cast denial, look down, and line up with one of the monsters down below, or one of the rocks so you remember the angles you tired. Change it a little bit every time till it works, it's always a bit to the right, inbetween two branches of the tree if you look down. But you have to edge off really slowly, you'll eventually get it one time, then you'll understand the difficulty and know how careful it needs to be done. Good luck!
I just had someone else say it didn't work for him,on console. If you're on console too and you really can't get it to work , I have someone testing it on console tomorrow so we'll know then .
you know whats funny ? i have i the ps4 a speed run any% from dist while im seeing this in the comments from twitch there was a lot of people spaming doll skip so i come to check it out
Yeah I was in the chat, dollskip is a command in Dist's chat because the day I found the skip,people kept asking for the link and instead of watching Dist play,I had to constantly link the video lol Thanks god for !commands :D
Ok just checking if you ever tried. Well after trying 25 times i can conclude it does not work on console. I guess they never made that mistake on the console versions. I even did some jumps in other places with no luck.
No, you can't get flagged by exploiting mechanics and bugs that are already in the game. You can only get banned for direct editing and external program usage.
Yep,would be surprised if it wouldn't.But,at least it will be in any% speedruns from now on,they can play old patches on PC .But for us scrubs,we'll have to enjoy it while it lasts :/
Well it says so in the title, in the description and in the comments so I don't think it's my fault :P I have to leave the video cause it's linked in speedrunner's Twitch' s and on SpeedSouls so I thought I'd make it very clear that it's patched for anyone watching who's not on old patch.
PeachyMike im not blaming you hear. i found this a while ago and got to this part. after a while of struggling i decided to watch a vid on how to do it, and then discovered from went and patched the fucking thing
Holy shit. Speedruns just got a lot faster.
since you uploaded this I am literally seeing loads of bloodstains in this area
haha I heard the same from a fellow member of SpeedSouls who was trying this online too :D
I hope there's not people standing in the air throwing fireballs at invaders now though,I only looked for,and found this for speedrunning purposes and fun :)
Of course there's always a-holes abusing things in PvP :/
For anyone interested in not skipping Pontiff,but cheesing him:
There is a way you can get into the boss room without triggering the fight,so he just stands there and does nothing while you destroy him :P
You already know the skip,so I will leave it to you to figure out how to get in there ;)
I did my job,now you go explore and have fun with it :)
ok so meanwhile we found you can skip Pontiff too with this,someone else will make a vid of that I'm sure,I will link it when they do (I'm watching livestream testing and it's been done already)
The pontiff skip into aldrich cheese: www.twitch.tv/ethel9727/v/72789490
OK good,Ethel's vid is the one I wanted,he's the one who started testing after I showed the video (he's a friend,I was on his stream :P )He also tested a lot of other places meanwhile,will keep you guys updated if we find a new use for the Denial trick.Expect this to be patched though,it's too big :/
You can kill Pontiff too at the back of the chapel. (requires alot of arrows)
Spoderman evades bosses, gets paid.
haha
I just found this video over the weekend and didn't realize they patched it by the time I tried to do it :(
Hilarious glitch. Used it to cheese Aldrich and then went backwards to cheese Pontiff. Turns out you can enter his arena from the second floor and kill him without any risk. Unfortunately the Mimic cannot hurt Pontiff at all. I thought since they can attack fire demons, they can attack everything, but nope. No stupid Mimic vs Pontiff fight.
It never dawned on me that the area before the Distant Manor Bonfire was literally below that bridge...!
And 10min is shaved off any%
:O Wonder if this makes builds easier/faster to do, as you can get t-shards from farron keep instead of cathredral, and irythll has lots of large shards. The problem becomes, you can't repec unless you go to cathredral :/ So your stuck with a tears/faith build.
well,this is mostly an easy way to go kill both Aldrich and Pontiff easily (both of them can be killed without them actually doing anything with this skip ),and of course for speedruns.
So it's a useful thing,but you will still need to go to kill sage to get to Rosaria.
We're still looking for more skips,so who knows,maybe we find a way around Crystal Sage too :P
This is exactly what I need, I like pvp in crucifixion woods but have to scrap the area because I need doll to progress :( Ty.
you're welcome :)
I'm on PS4.I made the jump, walked off in the right spot, got to land aaaaaaaaaand it wouldn't let me open the menu to quit out. I could do pretty much everything else but both my Options button and the right side of the touchpad did nothing. Not sure if this is just me or PS4 in general, but I figure I should mention it as a possible problem. Or maybe I just did something wrong.
Edit: Seems I simply needed to Estus. Didn't do it because it wasn't a written step, but it's what allowed me to actually open my menu. Glad it works, makes getting to Pontiff's area much easier/quicker in NG+ for PvP.
yeah sorry,I shoulda mentioned that.Read the comments below,it's in there too :P
Also quitout on the tree ok?You can go anywhere then with 3rd person view :D
PeachyMike It's no problem, figured it out eventually. I was able to quit out on the tree okay but was worse at getting off it in 3rd person so I just gave up on that haha.
It's worth doing it with that quitout though.You can get into Pontiff room and he won't aggro,and under Aldrich room,you can kill them both without them aggroing XD
+PeachyMike I'm okay with fighting them honestly. I only really wanted to skip
+Gungywimp over the Central Irithyll fire witch/pontiff knight run of hell. I love the boss fights.
good find thanks for it.i used it to get past ng+ fast and go str8 to ng+2 for the upgraded rings,worked like a charm finished ng+ in les than 4 hours with breaks alt tabing watching videos and stuff.BUT what i want to know is how the hell u found it :P do u jump everywhere? even if u jumped there u would have to do it multiple times to find that because it needs much precision to land on the platform.
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gg dude. For real. Thats insane. How did you come up with this idea anyway?
A friend (Bloodshed novels) did something similar in Catacombs so I thought I'd test it out too in some spots,for speedrunning purposes.
This was the spot where it would be most useful,and incredibly enough this is where it works lol
A new WR has already been set with this just now,Distortion2 did it. (the guy I call Dist in the video :P )
could u make this video again explaining and showing the exact fall down after the jump when quiting menu. because every time i go forward its always instead death. god dammit i wanna float as well :)
well you need to edge off REALLY carefully like I said,if you walk off normally you go too far and die.
If you are on PC,you can use the keyboard to walk,tap it just long enough so your charater goes forward little bits.
With controller,it's harder but doable,I did it like that in the video.
Also,when you're on the tree,quitout and reload,that puts you on the tree (if you're not far enough on it,you will slide off and die though after quitout).
Then use Denial.You can see your character now,so line up your head with a point down below,you need to go slightly to the right so try to line up with one of the creatures,it's just a matter of finding the right direction to fall off to.Adjust little bit till you find it.But you cannot just hold forward and walk off,that's the hardest part,you need to almost slide off,I mess it up too sometimes still,it's just hard to edge forward little bits :P
+PeachyMike lol i do all that and still fail. wasted 4 hours. in that time lord of cinder would have been dead :P
Sorry man I can't explain it any better,you'll have to keep trying if you wanna get it :)
Daaaamn! This is great!
Yep,and once again partial credit to you for your catacombs video,that's why I even tried this :D
FROM please though,how can there be a invisible platform on a tree exactly where we need it :P
But seriously,I think you're great finding bugs,I hope you also continue the search,we might break this game yet XD
Have you tried this with Spook yet? I assume it wouldn't work, as the Spook-reload game thing is how you do it...
yeah doesn't work with spook
what will happen to barbed sword strats?
They have only been strats for a short while, Anri' s is still better for speedruns. Barbed is good though, but needs a bit more stats to get good :)
This jump itself is harder than getting the doll....
lol nah man,look at the rocks in the water,and line up the jump to those so you can jump the same direction every time.I get it at least half the time (the complete skip) ,it's very easy after some practice :)
this is borderline impossible... keep dying when I fall off the RIGHT place
from the tree or later on?I have to add
this anyway for everyone so : quitout on the tree,you will then get 3rd person view back.Then watch this and quit out anywhere you like in a normal area,this will help I'm sure :)
th-cam.com/video/tKZ-9wnnE6E/w-d-xo.html
+PeachyMike nvm lol, finally got it after 2 hours of trying. thanks for the video man
did this get patched?
I want to do this to keep Cruxifiction Woods with invaders and move on to have the Aldrich Faithful invade zone as well. Then you can kill dancer and choose Lothric Castle or Grand Archives for more late game pvp.
damn with the way invades work we should have gotten bonfire ascetics back
Not patched yet, still not easy so keep trying :)
its annoying tho lol
Blame FROM software, they're the ones putting in hard glitches :P
+PeachyMike no matter where I quit game I seem to get spawned to the tree. I've tried your exact place
Ok actually I got it to stick, but I can't put down a summon sign or anything. Is PVP turned off without the doll?
why do you need tears? Just to see where youa re going? Is the direction always random or what?
To survive the fall
Probably to survive the fall. There is no killzone in that fall, but you'll lose very much health.
+blubbindahood Couldn't you just use Spook or the cat ring if that's the case?
Dallas Stottle thats what Im saying, or have a large amount of health
Yeah, but as far as I remember, the Cat Ring and Spook only reduce the falling damage.
If there's no killzone in the vertical route while falling, you'll survive the drop with ToD.
If you just use spook or the cat ring, you'd have to know exactly how much this fall is taking and level/ring up accordingly. Judging from the height of it, it should be a lot.
This is really awesome for those who started NG+ and just wanna do pvp at pontiff. fuck crystal sage!
At the start how did you get there? I is a noob
It's getting patched on the 19th, which is in a few hours so, not really worth me explaining it anymore, will put it in the title when it's actually patched, need to wait and see first. But the patch notes speak of it so.
I can't fall from the tree without dying , how the hell?
did you use tears of denial?
SeEpiN - Incoherent Rambling ye ofc
AltobelloProduction take baby steps and aim slightly left to land in the lake.also quitting out on the tree removes the birds eye view and might make it easier. can't wait to try this myself.
GUYS! Quit out on the tree,reload,THEN do denial ,you will get back 3rd person view then and things get a lot easier.
Then you can continue here and cheese or skip Pontiff,and cheese Aldrich from beneath.just find spots to change your height,you'l get there :) here's the vid th-cam.com/video/tKZ-9wnnE6E/w-d-xo.html
Is it possible to use spook rather than tears to negate the fall damage or no>
Nope.You fall through a killbox and die instantly with spook or cat ring
do u need a special catalyst? cuz for me it dont works
sorry for the late reply, but no you just need any chime or talisman
ok for me it dont wors some how i cast the speel jump down and just straight die
i tried it several times but died every time ...
It still works though, but it's difficult. Can you get on the tree? From there, it depends where you land on it. after landing on the tree, quit out. Then cast denial, look down, and line up with one of the monsters down below, or one of the rocks so you remember the angles you tired. Change it a little bit every time till it works, it's always a bit to the right, inbetween two branches of the tree if you look down. But you have to edge off really slowly, you'll eventually get it one time, then you'll understand the difficulty and know how careful it needs to be done. Good luck!
ok ty man nice that you comment so fast back TY
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lol
I just put it everywhere so hopefully noone will be like "IT DOESNT WORK" :P
Red Mindblank in action!
I do have a mindblank saved,it's not this one XD
For some reason this isn't working for me
It works for everyone else , which part isn't working? Watch my newer video,it may help
+PeachyMike well it seems as though that platform is non-existent in my game. I've tried many times and it doesn't seem to be there
Weird... Can't really help you with that :/
+PeachyMike thanks for trying to help man. I'll keep trying until I get it though
I just had someone else say it didn't work for him,on console. If you're on console too and you really can't get it to work , I have someone testing it on console tomorrow so we'll know then .
good job finding this!
finally early murakumo
well , like the title says, it got patched so it doesn't work anymore...
Only works on old version.
awesome really nice find!
Thanks Gooner :DNow go get WR ! I noticed on speedsouls you are geting good times,you can do it! :)
you know whats funny ? i have i the ps4 a speed run any% from dist while im seeing this in the comments from twitch there was a lot of people spaming doll skip so i come to check it out
Yeah I was in the chat, dollskip is a command in Dist's chat because the day I found the skip,people kept asking for the link and instead of watching Dist play,I had to constantly link the video lol
Thanks god for !commands :D
i cant do it :(
Doesnt work anymore, thats why it says patched in the title
@@PeachyMike :(
Nice find!
only on pc?
I think it's the same on console
Ok just checking if you ever tried. Well after trying 25 times i can conclude it does not work on console. I guess they never made that mistake on the console versions. I even did some jumps in other places with no luck.
ok tested on PS4 latest patch , works the same,as I kinda thought.
really wow what the heck am I doing wrong lol I try to mimic exactly what you do in this video. do I need to do something different?
subbed to you :)
0.0 omg wtf! thanks a lot for sharing bruh :)
You're welcome,use it while it lasts ;)
This is awesome xD
new meta
Aaaaaand they patched it.
yep
Awesome
Cheers Pink :)
I'm kinda scared you can get flagged as a cheater for doing this.
The glitch itself is really good as it allows permanent hosting in farron swamp.
No, you can't get flagged by exploiting mechanics and bugs that are already in the game. You can only get banned for direct editing and external program usage.
Gator dog drops down and kills you haha.Nice work lol wtf FROM
I was looking behind me for the doge,but he never showed lol
I feel like he might actually not spawn because you didn't even trigger him on the bridge.
oh shit good job :) too bad itll probably be patched in the next update ;-;
Yep,would be surprised if it wouldn't.But,at least it will be in any% speedruns from now on,they can play old patches on PC .But for us scrubs,we'll have to enjoy it while it lasts :/
Ooooooooooooooooooooh! yeaah! thanks man ^^
well this doesn't work anymore, unless you are on old patch ;)
nice glitch dude. i would've never in a million years thought to jump on a tree like that. yo fam check out my channel
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LUL
haha awesome find dude.
thanks :)
did this get patched? fuck! thats the past few hours of my life wasted
Well it says so in the title, in the description and in the comments so I don't think it's my fault :P I have to leave the video cause it's linked in speedrunner's Twitch' s and on SpeedSouls so I thought I'd make it very clear that it's patched for anyone watching who's not on old patch.
PeachyMike im not blaming you hear. i found this a while ago and got to this part. after a while of struggling i decided to watch a vid on how to do it, and then discovered from went and patched the fucking thing