I've always wondered why Kryptonians were a feared species in the cosmos. Darkseid was surprised that a kryptonian survived, along with Brainiac and others. Makes me still wonder what kind of people they were.
If recall right ( could have changed) they did take over quit a bit, had some of if not the best tec and welll.. yellow, white and blue stars.. can't remember what happened but they got forced to krypton and she me of thete pass were removed from history.
A baby kryptonian destroyed multiple planets with a sonic scream, another kryptonian child casually did a z broly level feat by destroying a galaxy with a sonic scream, the mom had to stop him. In terms of sheer raw power and feats, kryptonians are superior to saiyans and viltrumites. Plus, they are powerful with any star/sun except the red sun.
So they are not powerful without a certain sun... Saiyan's are born strong and they don't have weaknesses like a little green rock so Saiyan's are more powerful
Lo@@Foboi-hm1rf lmao 🤣 😂 😆 did you just say that saiyans have no weakness they can't breathe in space kryptonian can breathe in space and saiyans need to eat and drink and sleep kryptonians don't have to they can serve with the radiation that there body absorbs ok krypton 9:11 ians never get tired they are 24hours fights machines and on top of that kryptonian are way more powerful because kryptonian can fight outside the mutivers market them outerversal to high outerversal to boundles to extraversal okay look at superman and you no the dragon ball reality only has 2 dimensions the 3rd dimension and the 4th dimension ok it only has 12 universes that is it it is not infant like K9 .
@Foboi-hm1rf like DC is infant goku is only able to enter the 3rd dimension and the 4th dimension ok goku does not have any outerversal feats superman doss
It’s actually crazy how badly the kryptonians beat the saiyans and viltrumites… “not even close” is a massive understatement. I mean shit, Clark alone could probably solo the viltrumites himself. Throw Supergirl and Zod in there, what an absolute bloodbath that would be
@@LilBbyBooBoponce theyre charged, they stay charged until they deplete it. And the rate of depletion depends on how much work theyre doing. They dont simply lose their abilities once they leave a yellow star. Superman could never fly thru the universe the way he does, if that was the case.
Not with the likes of Ultra Instinct, Ultra Ego, and Broly involved. Despite that I still wouldn't put it past Clark to beat them all. But Super Girl and Zod would likely meet their demise.
As Dragonball fan I won't argue Kryptonian are superior in race but Saiyans have a lot of potential prime example Goku and viltrumites well as if now get dawged but may have potential if so
Also, none of these races can breathe in space. There's nothing to breathe. Kryptonians just don't need to breathe when they have solar energy in them.
@@XEXoTic_Worldthey were in the atmosphere, Frieza literally said that they can’t survive in the vacum of space and Goku was shitting himself from dying. In ROF Vegeta died when Frieza blew up the planet, unless you wanna tell me he died due to the explosion of the planet, but I doubt it. In the Moro arc Vegeta said that saiyans can’t survive in outer space
8:43 That's what I was saying when I talked about it in one post I said Kryptonians are the best first powerful race and Next would be Saiyans then Viltramites are last.
Despite all the common things gaps between races are insane. And I love imagine their best possible triple hybrid. With sheer power of Kryptonians, endurance and combat experience of Viltrumites and Ki + transformations of Saiyans... I actually used the idea of such hybrids in my story and jokingly called the new race Kraiyanmites (comes from KRyptonians, sAIYANs and viltruMITES). Race not as strong as Kryptonians but with ALL the abilities of trio
Ki Is Already A Source Power Of Saiyan's Physiology,When They Already Born With Their Power, Because DB Verse Have Speaking Habit Their Power And Others is Ki And Ki is A Life Energy It show that Ki can contain various emotions, and is like DNA since everyone has a different ki, and you can know what is the Nature of the person through his ki as you can say he is evil, a killer or not.If Saiyans's Power is ki/Life Force Energy,Kryptonians And Viltrumites Is Already Life Force Energy Too,Even They Learn Ki from Dragon Ball,Doesn't mean They Are a little bit Stronger,They Already Strong in Current But Warning He Have to Concentrate Attacks If They Catch Off Guard,They Will Die If we take away Goku's ki,Superman's Ki,Omni-Man's Ki They would die as ki Via life force Energy. We would also need to remove Kryptonians's life force And Viltrumites's Life Force to balance the stats. If Saiyans,Kryptonians,Viltrumites are deprived of their life force then no one would Live
It’s REALLY scary to think how powerful a kryptonian could be under a yellow sun in the comic where Superman destroys the whole DC reality with one punch in his origins he’s just an average kryptonian who crash landed on earth now imagine a hundred of them breaking reality cause they got the same sun treatment like Superman did
@@kawakiuzumaki5934 in some issues his origins is js him being a regular kryptonian while in some others the house of el are descendants from the kryptonian gods
@@1lovethc He is a descendant of the sun god roa…that’s canon lore but that’s not all he’s an anomaly in dc in general. He’s tied to the concept of hope itself which is insanely powerful in dc and in the lynchpin to the multiverse and nexus being who can change the preordained flow of time with his will alone. He’s also amped by hope energy. Like literally hope neegy that’s why he’s able to do impossible feats when the odds are stacked against him.
Every time someone says the line: 'kryptonians under a red sun are as weak as humans on Earth', that person LOSE a LOT of credibility. Krypton WASNT Earth. Its gravity was 100x of times bigger and the atmosphere far harsher, thiner. A comparison? Every single kryptonian spend ALL THEIR LIFE in that 100x ship Goku spent a few days... Also, want a baseline kryptonian? Black armor Kryptonians of MoS and The Flash. Those kryptonians were NOT empowered by the yellow sun(The armor prevents it)...AND look how ridiculously powerful they were...
Actually the black suit and armor does not prevent the absorption of yellow sun energy, it actually increases it. That's why superman put the suit on after he was resurrected. What the armor does apart from protecting its wearer from physical damage, is filter out excess sensory feedback, which is why the moment it's energy shields fail, their senses become overloaded and they pass out. The moment kryptonians access yellow sun energy they gain all the powers of superman, the only difference is they cannot maintain very tasking workloads for as long as superman as they do not have nearly as much energy reserves as he does, so they gas out earlier so to speak. Also they cannot fly, not because they don't possess the ability, but because flying is the most technical kryptonian ability. It demands extreme concentration and balance mastery to perform, which is why zod was the only one outside of clark to do so. He's believed to possess a tenacious mind and a strong will, that's why he's the only one outside of clark to also master his senses therefore being able to function without the sensory protection his energy shield provides. So while kryptonians under a red sun are way stronger than humans as you said, they aren't nearly the godlike beings they are under a yellow sun, not even close. They actually tend to be around supersoldier or near-supersoldier levels. So while a supersoldier might be impressive from a human perspective, to superman, they might as well be the same thing effectively speaking. It's like comparing 1 (human) and 3 (supersoldier / red sun kryptonian) to 10 million (yellow sun kryptonian). That's why people say red sun kryptonians are as weak as humans.
@@ocheokoh3942 very close, but some things wrong. Kryptonians can fly very early on after initial exposure. It sounds like you're referencing the movie, which has zero bearing on established canon. I concur that they don't nearly have his reserves, and not quite his level of power early on, but it doesn't stay that way forever. Doomsday clock established that superman enjoys a privileged status in the dc metaverse. He is the DC universes number one "antibody" of sorts. That's why he is more capable than others. Its a meta concept that has more to do with the "story of superman" than any inherent kryptonian abilities, or rather, its WHO he is, not WHAT he is, that makes superman unique.
You sir should be making video essays like this sharing your knowledge because you get the point!! Kryptonians are in their own class, they’re nigh invulnerable to everything in existence except each other and kryptonite.
Lets see, Saiyans and Kryptonians can on average, level entire planets alone. It takes three Viltrumites plus outside help to destroy a planet. Viltrumites are barely Planet Busters while the other two are casual planet busters on good days. Viltrumites are out of this battle well before it's really even started.
Actually, an average Saiyan can come close to blowing up a planet. In Dragon Ball, Master Roshi can blow up the moon with a power level of 180 after increasing it from 139, while Piccolo has a power level of 322 with weights on, and he just blew up the moon without any problem. Now imagine a power level over 1,000 Danco.
@@Auron1Roxas2 The average Saiyan can turn into a Great Ape... Just like kryptonians, they are both an endangered species. But Saiyan's power level have no limit.
They represent infinite potential while kryptonians represent infinite power, kind of like the Red Eyes/Blue Eyes dichotomy in YuGiOh, and Blue Eyes beat Red Eyes almost every time
@@mikelbaningo6407 Typical dc fans tactic X character loses the fight so they chose their only bullshit version of said character written by god knows whom that can put up a fight Why don’t you be more consistent and chose the original version 😂😂?
@@mohamedkhider6998 There's no "insert writer" Superman or "insert writer" Supergirl. There's only Superman and Supergirl. That's it. Any dribble you're saying is 100% head canon. Kryptonians just solos in general
@CyrusWashington WRONG! They can TRAIN (or DIE) to help BREAK those limits, but unlike Kryptonians, they have limitless power. Get your facts straight, fanboy.
@@kassburr5581 the earlier ancestral saiyans were oppressed and didn’t have the knowledge the current saiyans have about training and breaking limits. Look at Cabba and the saiyans from that universe. If the saiyans from Universe 7 had someone to mentor or lead them to reach their full potential nothing would’ve stopped them nor destroyed 99% of their race. Instead Freza used them as henchmen for his deeds. The purpose of Freeza destroying planet Vegeta was because he knew they would rise up and be stronger than him. As you see that prophecy came to past and some. Freezas been destroyed multiple times by a Saiyan.
@@scorpinok3006 are you really arguing over this man. Look Sayians continually evolve. If krypton’s best aren’t in a yellow sun then what? No matter the conditions sayians keep getting stronger. Almost like doomsday they’ll keep evolving.
@@CyrusWashingtonKryptonians aren't just strong with a yellow sun, they are stronger with a blue star and white star. They are strong anywhere except a red sun.
I can see saiyans relying on their ki projectile attacks and their zenkai boosts as an advantage against Viltrumites. I know Viltrumites have their own equivalent of zenkai boosts but the saiyans have a better version of that
To be fair with the Sayians, They are naturally on a plan with 10x earth's normal gravity. And they never really bothered to train. They just say that okay. This is my base of what I could be at and don't need to train. I could just punch and just do what I gotta do. Freeza was the same way, he thought his power level was already so high, there was no need for training.
Kypton Gravity are more than 253x earth Gravity , so kypton Gravity are more than 243x Saiyan Natural Planet Gravity so kryptonians are way much tronger , faster , way much durable even baby kryptonian are way much tronger, durable than adulte Saiyans and viltrumites
@@kingjames846 Was that back in the day continuity? Because that sounds really far. Fetch personally. Because if so, every time superman was depowered, he should have been able to rock a lot of people
@bobitzathegodofcomedy5979 dude no one in DBS has any feats or remotely close to the feats that superman has, even supergirl has better feats than those monkeys, and he dog walks them effortlessly
@@bobitzathegodofcomedy5979Super fodder gets beaten by MUi Goku alone let alone Jiren who is said to be equal in power with Gods of destruction who are Multiversal.
That's what I said, legendary Saiyan's like Broly and unique ones like Gohan would randomly be born if Planet Vegeta wasn't destroyed. Their potential surpasses Goku and Vegeta! 🤷🏿♂️
@@augustuswalsh5530 The same Superboy prime who retcon stories and characters with a punch and who also fought the darkest knight who would literally blink the DB verse out of existence. Read a comic before commenting.
@@daveonewinn9981 If he goes into the DB verse, he has be on a different level. And besides all characters as the latest chapter of DBS are all on Low Multiversal.
@@mikelbaningo6407 because they never picked up a comic High tier to high tier, Saiyans should take it high diff (due to scaling from Dr Slump) with viltrumites being a non issue
far underselling the average saiyans they are all moon level easily seeing how roshi could do it in z. Don't get me wrong the average one isn't beat the average kyptonian but they 100% beating the average viltumite.
@@DanCoyou DO get a lot of math wrong though. The earth is SEXtillions of tons. Not QUINtillions. Little errors like that are bothersome. And don't get me started about the "smart atoms" thing.
Saiyans wins in terms of power they already can easily destroy planets plus each one has the ability to grow into giant ape which 10x their power. If we’re talking about designs viltrumites are definitely most badass looking ones
Unlike the Viltrumites, Saiyans are capable of planet level feats while Kryptonians like Superman are capable of Universe level feats. for example, Superman hold a book with infinite pages and bench pressed the Earth for five days. Not to mention he KO'd the World forger.
Goku and beerus were shaking the universe in thier punch clash sayians are capable of universal level feats like kryptonians are. Still think kryptonians win due to thier potential
@@mikelbaningo6407 1.I know kryptonians are stronger and have more potential 2. If you are referring to his pre crisis sneeze he only sneezed a solar system he didn’t sneeze the universe. 3. A better example will be the time when Superman punched and destroyed multiple timelines with one punch and held the infinite multiverse
@@mclay2859 I just wanted to mention that sayians are also universal threats. And I am well aware kryptonians like Superman and Superboy prime can show feats on a multiverseal scale if not higher.
@@pullcarsmelly8051 that's false. Kryptonians need a yellow sun so they have conditions based on environment. They also don't grow fast in power. Superman is unique because he grew up under a yellow sun his entire life other than that most are no where near him in power.
@@diamantemrobinson kryptonians dont need to train. Nothing false about that. They gain their power as a simple byproduct of them EXISTING. And kryptonians have already demonstrated that once they're exposed to a star, their powers are immediately activated. Zod has battled superman within minutes of being on earth. And yeah, he wasn't AS powerful, but he put up a good fight. Whatever you think you know? You DONT.
@@pullcarsmelly8051 did I say they need to train? Which they actually do need to do to have control over their powers. What I called false is you saying this is also true for kyprtonians. They get their power by being in the presence of a yellow sun. They get stronger over time the more they're in the sun like how viltrumites get stronger over time with age. Saiyans can go fight for 30 minutes and gain massive power ups.
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It feels like no one is even close to a Super Saiyan God outside the Dragon Ball Universe. It would take Omni-Man and Superman to stop a Vegeta that isn't holding back.
@@PracticalBibleStudies GT isn't even canon, but ok. Kryptonians are still stronger than Saiyans. Baby kryptonians are casually galaxy busters, average Saiyans are star level at best. You clearly need to read a DC comic.
@@ShinzaBansho-vu2sl I was a DC Comics fan long before a Dragon Ball fan. It's not even close. Base level super saiyans are far more powerful than kryptonians under a yellow sun.
@@PracticalBibleStudies If you were actually a DC fan, you would understand that kryptonians are far superior to Saiyans. Kryptonians under a yellow sun are far stronger than Super Saiyans, if you know superman's feats.
The average Saiyan was around 2000-4000, Napa was 6000. Goku and piccolo were around 400 at the start of Z which is all it takes to blow up a planet. Raditz was 1000 which was considered weak. Regardless Krytonians are dead in the water unless they're around a yellow sun.
I've always wondered which of these two DC villains was the stronger one: Mongul (DC) VS Despero (DC) Both are even stronger than Superman and can overpower several Justice League members by themselves, but are still below the likes of Darkseid.
Lol didn’t you just contradict yourself? They are both stronger than Superman but below darkseid, even tho Superman has beaten the shit out of darkseid multiple times. They are not stronger than Superman, maybe stronger than a young or holding back Superman, but not generally stronger than Superman, given even Superman has beaten up Mongul single handedly when pissed off
Raw strength and durability go to Mongul...but Despero is one of the most potent telepaths in all of comics. So unless Mongul has super resistance to TP, the fight is over before it even begins.
Interesting video. I do say Kryptonians win on these one as well. This is because, outside of the fact that until nowdays Kryptonians are still my main favorite alien race inside the DC universe and in general from any fictional universe. Just considering being born as an alien humanoid being who won't need anymore to eat or sleep, although it may still be capable of doing so, and won't require oxygen to breathe, which enables him to travel in space and underwater easily. And also that being would be resistant or immune to different forms and levels of lacerations, like blunt force trauma, energy based attacks, falls from great heights, explosions, the cold void of space, toxins and all known diseases on Earth. Not only that but by the main fact that Kryptonians can live almost indefinitely if they reside under continuous exposure to the yellow sun's energy. Saiyans on the other way, have the ability to increase their power levels through training and combat experience, so they may have inherent limitations. By the other hand Kryptonians, especially under a yellow sun like Earth's, have consistently demonstrated immense power without the need for continuous training. This could mean that Saiyans might eventually reach a power ceiling that Kryptonians can easily surpass. Also, while both Viltrumites and Kryptonians possess superhuman abilities, their power sets are far different. For example, Kryptonians are depicted with heat vision, super breath, and super speed. Viltrumites do not have these exact abilities, which could be a disadvantage in a direct confrontation.
Hey man, idk if youll see this but i love your content. Your hands down the most consistent battle discussion creator for comics so i appreciate your grind. If i could ever ask you a question, id love to know what are your personal favorite characters after years of reading/reasearch!
One question! Who out of the Viltrumites and Saiyans is going to beat Superboy, Supergirl, and Superman? And as a complementary bonus, throw in Zod, Faora and Nam-Ek!!!!
In a war against the 3 you also gotta ignore just their powers and see their tactics to exploit their weaknesses More then likely they are all gonna discover and use each other's weakness For example The sayains and viltrumites would have no problem with exploiting the kyrptonians vulnerabilities to green, yellow kryptonite and other kryptonites By using it in their gear, weapons and tech The kryptonians and sayains could use viltrumites weakness to high pitched sound , that one virus, and those bug things against them And the kryptonites and viltrumites could note the over reliance of alot of lower class sayains is use of the great ape ability and either A: not fight during full moons or in space around moons Or B: remove their tails And also could note that alot of sayains have a severly exploitable weakness to having their tails squeezed causing them to go limp and be powerless and in intense pain In alot of battles sayains and viltrumites could lead Kryptonians into environments with red suns *which make them weakee* or intense veins of kryptonite Sayains could lead kryptonians and viltrumites into places with a planned full moon Viltrumites could lure kryptonians and sayains too planets with no sun or moon They can all exploit each other to gain an edge and this what if is incredibly interesting to think about
@@CloudLicht nah, Kryptonians>>>>>>>>>>>Saiyans, A baby Kryptonians is strong enough to obliterate an entire Solar System with their screems plus Kryptonians can effortlessly travel through time. Saiyans ain't no match for the Kryptonians. Just look at Superman, he literally just obliterated a entire Solar System with just a Sneeze. Kryptonians are broken.
for saiyans to win against kryptonians, their only option is to use hakai (god of destruction move). and against vulteramites, just leave broly on vulteramite planet.😂🤣🤣
1. Kryptonian have a limit to how much Yellow sun radiation they can intake AND STILL they cannot be more powerful then Yellow sun they absorb from. 2. Viltrumites despite their Smart atoms are still just planet level, which is just your average Freiza force members. 3. Saiyans destroying races like Vilitrumites and Kyrptonians was average grunt work. KRYPTONIANS AND VILTRUMITES are fodder tier to your average Saiyans. I mean, BROLY alone can vaporize the entire galaxies these race belong to in an instant and fly off yelling KAKAROT! Into the void of space.
Bro, what are you on about. Kryptonians as a baby were destroying galaxies by screaming. Kryptonians don't always need a yellow sun to be strong, they could go to a blue stars and white stars. Also, kryptonians don't have a limit on solar radiation they have drunken in their cells.
The problem with average also means some of the super exceptional would raise the average. If it's based on grabbing any random of each species then I'd bet on the Krytonians as long as they're not under a red sun. Otherwise I'd grab based one the few that raised the overall average the Saiyans as either Goku or Vegeta can solo out the other two universes.
@@Returntonature145 The problem comparing one multiverse of one fictional creation vs another, the only reason I give it to Goku and Vegeta is that it seems of late if they fight multiple multiverses are in jeopardy while even this Superman we can only confirm just one at the moment (at least what I can find of him). Like I mentioned though the average Kryptonian is far tougher (solar system buster) than the average Saiyan (maybe a moon buster), as each of them are planet buster capable under a yellow sun in the worst case scenario and we didn't see that level until DBZ introduced Vegeta which they implied at the time he was the toughest among his race by far. I look at it like this at this time, if you grab a random Krytonian, Viltrumite, or Saiyan and pit them to death I view it as Krytonian > Saiyan > Viltrumite. But if you grab top tier then it's Saiyan > Krytonian > Viltrumite as the very tippy top are all destroying universe level minimum (upper echelon multiverse levels) vs the Viltrumite who are planet busters at best.
@danco, as always dope video, saw your last one, let me say, im so spoiled with your videos, i dont really like others lol, but haters gone hate, keep grinding my g💯
@@PYRATE31or... Maybe lucifer knew there was nothing he could do, so he didnt bother. The cosmic armor represents Superman's ability to be a walking plot device who always wins. Lucifer, as a fictional character WITHOUT plot armor, has NOTHING on THAT. Away with you.
Lol you’re the one who fucked up cos that only happened in live action(Dceu), the normal story in comics or even animations is completely different. Danco is right.
Saiyans also have Oozaru form, which let's the rank and file Saiyan run roughshod over the rank and file Viltrumite. They have Saibamen to beef up their numbers and if any survive from near fatal injury, they'll become stronger. So the longer the war runs, the more powerful they will be on average. Still outclassed by yellow sun Kryptonians but Saiyans vs Viltrumites? Not even close.
I always wondered that about Superman, he’s just a average dude who lucked out. Though in Man of Steel, since he was natural birth and not preprogrammed, it was implied he would be stronger than other Kryptonians. But imagine Zod growing up on Earth and soaking in solar energy for 30 years. He would have been unbeatable.
Strength & Durability: Power level of 280 of master roshi's full power was able to destroy the moon. The moon is 27% the size of Earth, 280 * 4 = 1120, this is the amount of power level it takes to destroy a whole planet eating an attack from a power level of 1120 already gives you the durability to withstand a planetary attack, able to damage someone with a power level of 1120 with a punch is already large county/continental. Speed: Piccolo's Special Beam cannon can travel from Earth to the Moon in 4 seconds (He Destroyed the moon) It takes 1.4 seconds for Light to earth to the moon Raditz Easily Dodged it ! Already putting a majority of saiyans easily at the speed of light. Ability: They have great ape transformation that can multiply their power by 10x even Saiyan baby's can do it, the also have energy manipulation that they can concentrate and multily it's power by Idk how much at this point, every time they have near death experience they have the Zenkai boost which is similiar to Allen The Alien's ability. Goku had one Zenkai boost who's power level went from 90,000 to 3,000,000 Let that sink in.... This is why dragon ball fans get mad when Goku gets compared by Saitama, when Goku had a power level of 25 billion on Buu Saga Super Saiyan 3 multiply 25 billion by 1120 is how many planets goku can destroy, Pass buu saga already puts him multi universal
So pretty much as a whole race its the kryps, but if talking individually, then its the Saiyans?? I understand the other supes, prime and all but can someone like reslly break down how a regular superman is stronger than s being that constantly evoles using spiritual and physical energy, just as fast and strong...
Keep in mind, there is no reason to be mad over any ranking of these races as it is up to the writers how strong they are. If a writer suddenly decided to give all viltrumites an irresistible beam of destruction, then viltrumites would be the best, but that could happen to any of the races.
Don’t forget that along side there crazy strength under a yellow sun, most of them are super intelligent an have built super that give them the super strength without a yellow sun and the tech could turn red suns in to yellow ones
Krytonians definitely win this. Do videos on Silver Age Superman Vs Classic Adam Warlock, Superman/Superboy Prime Vs The Magus, & Cosmic Armor Superman Vs LT Adam Warlock. Also, do videos on Captain Atom Vs The Silver Surfer & The Punisher Vs David Cain.
I can tell you why the sayains didnt use gravity training Reason 1: it wasnt a widely known trick even amongst other races, dr.briefs was the one who got the idea to make a gravity chamber goku hadnt even thought of that before, yes sayains were stronger because of their 10x earths gravity planet but even then its likely most sayains didnt give this a second thought Reason 2: alot of them were so cocky that they felt they didnt need too especially because of reason 3 *ill get to it in a minute* but also the lower classes were bullied by higher class sayains and also the higher level frieza force soldiers into believing they could never actually be worth anything as it took years of training to actually get stronger *which we see as goku on earth only got to a PL of 400-900 through his entire og dragon ball journey without extra assistance* And once youve adapted to the level of the gravity training under it would yield the same results as normal training because your body is used too it and has already grown all it could from that level Reason 3: they often relied on their ape forms Sayains when they couldn't take planets with their already overwhelming and dominating presence and power they could simply wait for a full moon and then invade the planet A sayain with a power level of 1000 when becoming a great ape would gain a power level of 10,000 Now that doesn't sound that impressive at first but keep in mind something that is often looked over by fans A PL of 1000 or lower so is the average for Alot of frieza soldiers And when you start getting into higher terriroties you are exceptional and when you get to ginyu territory Akira has gone as far as to say they are mutants of their individual races 160,000 is ginyus power level im pretty sure or somewhere around there He is the one closest to frieza Now vegeta back in the sayain saga had a power level of 18,000 before all his zenkais on namek but with one transformation Gained a PL of 180,000 this is not only annihilating ginyu but is working its way up to friezas 1st forms 530,000 The closest to anyone popular in the galaxy at the time besides friezas own family Which means they are severly outclassing most races naturally which leads to reason 4 Reason 4: frieza was paranoid of the sayains becoming to powerful and feared the rise of a legendary super Saiyan or a mythical super sayain god He likely didnt let the sayains do much training because it was discomforting and especially in the original z anime continuity Seeing people like bardock who was seen as a low class take kannasa It made him incredibly paranoid Sayains were powerful but were hindered By lack of exploits Frieza hindering them Being prideful or bullied And being genocided when they got too strong
Robert Kirkman in an interview that Invincible would beat the brakes off Superman. since he's the creator then it's just fact and I find that hilarious 😂
I honestly think its crazy how we look over the saiyans abilities to turn into gods, teleport, manipulation of pure energy .all so we as Americans can say super man is better. Saiyans can destroy planets they just choose not to. And they are masters at different martial arts. Super man and invincible barely can box. The depend only on their powers.
Kriptonians have their own styles of fighting, along with their own version of Ultra instinct just without any flashing transformations. And the average saiyan can destroy planets, the average kripton can destroy universes and more
Okay so I'm saying this before I watch this. A: I don't know much about Viltrumites so I can't say much. B" In all reality (if Viltrumites are similar to both kryptonians and Saiyans) the winners depend on 3 variables. 1. Location 2. If it's a death battle or not 3. If we're talking about individual beings from said race or all of them as a whole.
Wrong my guy u forgot saiyans has the great ape transformation n kryptonians r weak on they own planet 😂 master roshi blew up a moon with a power level n the hundreds meaning a power level of 1000 is enough to blow it up n that’s if u going off how far he blew the moon up n how long it took to reach it meaning u can scale it to being even more powerful up close 😂😂so stop being goofy n do the math bardock was still considered being a low class warrior with the power level of 3000
Krytonians: infinite power
Saiyans: infinite potential
Viltrumites: badass mustaches
Humans: made them 🗿
@Silky_xr real life humans that are beyond fiction that is
Viltrumites: infinite stamina + regenerative potential
Correct 💯💯
They don’t have infinite stamina
I've always wondered why Kryptonians were a feared species in the cosmos. Darkseid was surprised that a kryptonian survived, along with Brainiac and others. Makes me still wonder what kind of people they were.
If recall right ( could have changed) they did take over quit a bit, had some of if not the best tec and welll.. yellow, white and blue stars.. can't remember what happened but they got forced to krypton and she me of thete pass were removed from history.
Then the monitor found super girl ;( ;/?!’
I think kryptonions would win but the viltrumites are getting destroyed first
@EagleCrocthe latest crop of Invincible fanboys argue some crazy things. Clueless bunch.
@EagleCrocClark did a burnout week instead of a PR Max.
Kryptonians gives them the omniman vs guardians of the globe treatment
A baby kryptonian destroyed multiple planets with a sonic scream, another kryptonian child casually did a z broly level feat by destroying a galaxy with a sonic scream, the mom had to stop him. In terms of sheer raw power and feats, kryptonians are superior to saiyans and viltrumites. Plus, they are powerful with any star/sun except the red sun.
Which kryptonian did this
Blue sun doubles their power
So they are not powerful without a certain sun... Saiyan's are born strong and they don't have weaknesses like a little green rock so Saiyan's are more powerful
Lo@@Foboi-hm1rf lmao 🤣 😂 😆 did you just say that saiyans have no weakness they can't breathe in space kryptonian can breathe in space and saiyans need to eat and drink and sleep kryptonians don't have to they can serve with the radiation that there body absorbs ok krypton 9:11 ians never get tired they are 24hours fights machines and on top of that kryptonian are way more powerful because kryptonian can fight outside the mutivers market them outerversal to high outerversal to boundles to extraversal okay look at superman and you no the dragon ball reality only has 2 dimensions the 3rd dimension and the 4th dimension ok it only has 12 universes that is it it is not infant like K9
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@Foboi-hm1rf like DC is infant goku is only able to enter the 3rd dimension and the 4th dimension ok goku does not have any outerversal feats superman doss
It’s actually crazy how badly the kryptonians beat the saiyans and viltrumites… “not even close” is a massive understatement.
I mean shit, Clark alone could probably solo the viltrumites himself. Throw Supergirl and Zod in there, what an absolute bloodbath that would be
Also, H'el, Superboy Prime, and more. Superboy Prime alone can solo both of the races.
Doomsday is enough to solo both races😂😂
depends on the sun in orbit tbh for kryptonians
@@LilBbyBooBoponce theyre charged, they stay charged until they deplete it. And the rate of depletion depends on how much work theyre doing. They dont simply lose their abilities once they leave a yellow star. Superman could never fly thru the universe the way he does, if that was the case.
Not with the likes of Ultra Instinct, Ultra Ego, and Broly involved. Despite that I still wouldn't put it past Clark to beat them all. But Super Girl and Zod would likely meet their demise.
1. Kryptonians
2. Saiyans
3. Viltrumites
Dragon ball mid fans 🤡 about to attack you 😂
As Dragonball fan I won't argue Kryptonian are superior in race but Saiyans have a lot of potential prime example Goku and viltrumites well as if now get dawged but may have potential if so
@@mikelbaningo6407only clowns use the clown emoji
@@mikelbaningo6407nah this ain't tiktok lil bro we are well aware of kryptonians being stronger than saiyans
@@mikelbaningo6407 As a db fan i won't argue much
Average saiyans aren't strongest
Kryptonians>>>Saiyans>>>Viltrumites
Facts
Kryptonians: Who are these wannabes?
That’s basically Danco to all the people saying he is copying them when he is one of the OGs of battle verses TH-camrs.
Superman to omni man and goku 😂😂 "who are these copycats"??
😂😂😂😂
NERD FIGHT
Unlike Saiyans and Viltrumites... Kryptonians can ACTUALLY breathe in space.
Watch the battle of god Dbz
Watch bardock story dbz
@@XEXoTic_WorldThey weren't in space
Also, none of these races can breathe in space. There's nothing to breathe. Kryptonians just don't need to breathe when they have solar energy in them.
@@XEXoTic_Worldthey were in the atmosphere, Frieza literally said that they can’t survive in the vacum of space and Goku was shitting himself from dying. In ROF Vegeta died when Frieza blew up the planet, unless you wanna tell me he died due to the explosion of the planet, but I doubt it. In the Moro arc Vegeta said that saiyans can’t survive in outer space
8:43 That's what I was saying when I talked about it in one post I said Kryptonians are the best first powerful race and Next would be Saiyans then Viltramites are last.
Despite all the common things gaps between races are insane. And I love imagine their best possible triple hybrid. With sheer power of Kryptonians, endurance and combat experience of Viltrumites and Ki + transformations of Saiyans...
I actually used the idea of such hybrids in my story and jokingly called the new race Kraiyanmites (comes from KRyptonians, sAIYANs and viltruMITES). Race not as strong as Kryptonians but with ALL the abilities of trio
Technically the viltrimite DNA slowly removes the other alien DNA making them full blooded viltrimites
@@mikelbaningo6407In their universe, against the races they've gone up against. Probably not a kryptonians.
Imagine Invincible and Supergirl having a baby.
Ki Is Already A Source Power Of Saiyan's Physiology,When They Already Born With Their Power, Because DB Verse Have Speaking Habit Their Power And Others is Ki And Ki is A Life Energy It show that Ki can contain various emotions, and is like DNA since everyone has a different ki, and you can know what is the Nature of the person through his ki as you can say he is evil, a killer or not.If Saiyans's Power is ki/Life Force Energy,Kryptonians And Viltrumites Is Already Life Force Energy Too,Even They Learn Ki from Dragon Ball,Doesn't mean They Are a little bit Stronger,They Already Strong in Current But Warning He Have to Concentrate Attacks If They Catch Off Guard,They Will Die
If we take away Goku's ki,Superman's Ki,Omni-Man's Ki They would die as ki Via life force Energy. We would also need to remove Kryptonians's life force And Viltrumites's Life Force to balance the stats. If Saiyans,Kryptonians,Viltrumites are deprived of their life force then no one would Live
Imagine Goku And Power Girl Have A Baby
It’s REALLY scary to think how powerful a kryptonian could be under a yellow sun in the comic where Superman destroys the whole DC reality with one punch in his origins he’s just an average kryptonian who crash landed on earth now imagine a hundred of them breaking reality cause they got the same sun treatment like Superman did
Superman isn’t a Average kryptonian tho lol
@@kawakiuzumaki5934 in some issues his origins is js him being a regular kryptonian while in some others the house of el are descendants from the kryptonian gods
@@1lovethc He is a descendant of the sun god roa…that’s canon lore but that’s not all he’s an anomaly in dc in general. He’s tied to the concept of hope itself which is insanely powerful in dc and in the lynchpin to the multiverse and nexus being who can change the preordained flow of time with his will alone. He’s also amped by hope energy. Like literally hope neegy that’s why he’s able to do impossible feats when the odds are stacked against him.
Kryptonians: Infinite power
Saiyans: Infinite potential
Viltrumites: Infinite stamina
Every time someone says the line: 'kryptonians under a red sun are as weak as humans on Earth', that person LOSE a LOT of credibility. Krypton WASNT Earth. Its gravity was 100x of times bigger and the atmosphere far harsher, thiner. A comparison? Every single kryptonian spend ALL THEIR LIFE in that 100x ship Goku spent a few days...
Also, want a baseline kryptonian? Black armor Kryptonians of MoS and The Flash. Those kryptonians were NOT empowered by the yellow sun(The armor prevents it)...AND look how ridiculously powerful they were...
Kryptonians still slams
@EagleCrocfive days.
Actually the black suit and armor does not prevent the absorption of yellow sun energy, it actually increases it. That's why superman put the suit on after he was resurrected. What the armor does apart from protecting its wearer from physical damage, is filter out excess sensory feedback, which is why the moment it's energy shields fail, their senses become overloaded and they pass out. The moment kryptonians access yellow sun energy they gain all the powers of superman, the only difference is they cannot maintain very tasking workloads for as long as superman as they do not have nearly as much energy reserves as he does, so they gas out earlier so to speak. Also they cannot fly, not because they don't possess the ability, but because flying is the most technical kryptonian ability. It demands extreme concentration and balance mastery to perform, which is why zod was the only one outside of clark to do so. He's believed to possess a tenacious mind and a strong will, that's why he's the only one outside of clark to also master his senses therefore being able to function without the sensory protection his energy shield provides.
So while kryptonians under a red sun are way stronger than humans as you said, they aren't nearly the godlike beings they are under a yellow sun, not even close. They actually tend to be around supersoldier or near-supersoldier levels. So while a supersoldier might be impressive from a human perspective, to superman, they might as well be the same thing effectively speaking. It's like comparing 1 (human) and 3 (supersoldier / red sun kryptonian) to 10 million (yellow sun kryptonian). That's why people say red sun kryptonians are as weak as humans.
@@ocheokoh3942 very close, but some things wrong. Kryptonians can fly very early on after initial exposure. It sounds like you're referencing the movie, which has zero bearing on established canon. I concur that they don't nearly have his reserves, and not quite his level of power early on, but it doesn't stay that way forever. Doomsday clock established that superman enjoys a privileged status in the dc metaverse. He is the DC universes number one "antibody" of sorts. That's why he is more capable than others. Its a meta concept that has more to do with the "story of superman" than any inherent kryptonian abilities, or rather, its WHO he is, not WHAT he is, that makes superman unique.
You sir should be making video essays like this sharing your knowledge because you get the point!! Kryptonians are in their own class, they’re nigh invulnerable to everything in existence except each other and kryptonite.
Lets see, Saiyans and Kryptonians can on average, level entire planets alone.
It takes three Viltrumites plus outside help to destroy a planet.
Viltrumites are barely Planet Busters while the other two are casual planet busters on good days.
Viltrumites are out of this battle well before it's really even started.
Omniman destroyed the bug planet by himself
@@thomasbullins He Destroyed The Flaxans ON The Planet. Not The Planet Itself.
@@BigNerd111 -- oh okay --
Now that I think about it ; it took him like a couple of weeks to do it didn't it?
@@thomasbullins In some cases, yes.
@@BigNerd111 the reason it took three Viltrumites to destroy that planet is because planet Viltrum is much bigger and tougher than Earth
Actually, an average Saiyan can come close to blowing up a planet. In Dragon Ball, Master Roshi can blow up the moon with a power level of 180 after increasing it from 139, while Piccolo has a power level of 322 with weights on, and he just blew up the moon without any problem. Now imagine a power level over 1,000 Danco.
None of that is true, the average saiyan is nowhere near planetary.
@@Auron1Roxas2 Yes, you are absolutely right non-Dragon ball fan🤣🤣🤣
When you realize the moon is hollow and no way as big,thick or heavy as a planet so no average saiyans arent planet busters@@TheXman779
@@Auron1Roxas2 The average Saiyan can turn into a Great Ape... Just like kryptonians, they are both an endangered species. But Saiyan's power level have no limit.
@@ESPcrb Yes saiyan power levels do have limits. Kryptonians are far superior to saiyans and the great ape form is nothing compared to them.
Kryptonians Without A Doubt. 👌💯
kryptonians would stomp in their base forms
Saiyans have too many confusing techniques and they can level up. They take the win.
Superboy prine solos dragon ball verse
They have to learn it all, train, nearly die, or in goku and vegeta's case, ACTUALLy die... Repeatedly.... Meanwhile kryptonians just need to exist.
They represent infinite potential while kryptonians represent infinite power, kind of like the Red Eyes/Blue Eyes dichotomy in YuGiOh, and Blue Eyes beat Red Eyes almost every time
@@mikelbaningo6407
Typical dc fans tactic
X character loses the fight so they chose their only bullshit version of said character written by god knows whom that can put up a fight
Why don’t you be more consistent and chose the original version 😂😂?
@@mohamedkhider6998 There's no "insert writer" Superman or "insert writer" Supergirl. There's only Superman and Supergirl. That's it. Any dribble you're saying is 100% head canon. Kryptonians just solos in general
Saiyans are capable of destroying entire planets Vegita did that on his way to earth and made it look easy
Supergirl can go toe to toe with beings that can destroy multiverses and can effortlessly travel through time and she’s in her early 20s
The saiyans virtually have no limits. They win hands down.
Then why they get put on the endangered species list by one finger from 1st form frieza?
@CyrusWashington WRONG! They can TRAIN (or DIE) to help BREAK those limits, but unlike Kryptonians, they have limitless power. Get your facts straight, fanboy.
@@kassburr5581 the earlier ancestral saiyans were oppressed and didn’t have the knowledge the current saiyans have about training and breaking limits. Look at Cabba and the saiyans from that universe. If the saiyans from Universe 7 had someone to mentor or lead them to reach their full potential nothing would’ve stopped them nor destroyed 99% of their race. Instead Freza used them as henchmen for his deeds. The purpose of Freeza destroying planet Vegeta was because he knew they would rise up and be stronger than him. As you see that prophecy came to past and some. Freezas been destroyed multiple times by a Saiyan.
@@scorpinok3006 are you really arguing over this man. Look Sayians continually evolve. If krypton’s best aren’t in a yellow sun then what? No matter the conditions sayians keep getting stronger. Almost like doomsday they’ll keep evolving.
@@CyrusWashingtonKryptonians aren't just strong with a yellow sun, they are stronger with a blue star and white star. They are strong anywhere except a red sun.
I can see saiyans relying on their ki projectile attacks and their zenkai boosts as an advantage against Viltrumites. I know Viltrumites have their own equivalent of zenkai boosts but the saiyans have a better version of that
Viltrumites isn't Even Close To Super Saiyans,Great Ape Saiyans Oneshots just Appearing There
Kryptonians are the exception in this comparison, I agree 👍🏾
To be fair with the Sayians, They are naturally on a plan with 10x earth's normal gravity. And they never really bothered to train. They just say that okay. This is my base of what I could be at and don't need to train. I could just punch and just do what I gotta do. Freeza was the same way, he thought his power level was already so high, there was no need for training.
Kypton Gravity are more than 253x earth Gravity , so kypton Gravity are more than 243x Saiyan Natural Planet Gravity so kryptonians are way much tronger , faster , way much durable even baby kryptonian are way much tronger, durable than adulte Saiyans and viltrumites
@@kingjames846 Was that back in the day continuity? Because that sounds really far. Fetch personally. Because if so, every time superman was depowered, he should have been able to rock a lot of people
I don't even like kryptonians/superman all that much, I love saiyans and invincible, but supes wrapping this up b4 lunch lol
😂😂
Kryptonians win.
Superman alone can wipe the entire fodder Viltrumite Empire...so the viltrumites have no place in this fight.
@memphishuffman8938 Nah, the Saiyans have Goku, Vegeta and Broly who all individually would require Superman's entire focus to be beaten.
@bobitzathegodofcomedy5979 dude no one in DBS has any feats or remotely close to the feats that superman has, even supergirl has better feats than those monkeys, and he dog walks them effortlessly
@@bobitzathegodofcomedy5979Super fodder gets beaten by MUi Goku alone let alone Jiren who is said to be equal in power with Gods of destruction who are Multiversal.
@@abdallmo1738Superman scales above multiversal in base. He destroyed a multiverse in one punch.
@@abdallmo1738 bros from the "gOkU sOlOs fIcTiOn" crew,
You know nun abt supes keep yo ass in that laser lv fodder
you forgot broly he is the most exceptional saiyan in all of the saiyan race.
Superman dogs no actually Batman dogs
This is a popular subject lately.
This is a fair fight, but characters like Broly are on a far different level.
That's what I said, legendary Saiyan's like Broly and unique ones like Gohan would randomly be born if Planet Vegeta wasn't destroyed. Their potential surpasses Goku and Vegeta! 🤷🏿♂️
So what? Superboy Prime can beat both races by himself, broly isn't doing anything.
@@daveonewinn9981 Broly can go to Legendary SSJ3 and destroy Superboy Prime.
@@augustuswalsh5530 The same Superboy prime who retcon stories and characters with a punch and who also fought the darkest knight who would literally blink the DB verse out of existence. Read a comic before commenting.
@@daveonewinn9981 If he goes into the DB verse, he has be on a different level. And besides all characters as the latest chapter of DBS are all on Low Multiversal.
Roshi blew up the moon before dragon ball had a Z 😂
Vegeta destroyed a planet before he got to Earth pretty easily.
He isn't average though. He is an elite warrior and prince. Danco said average so only characters like Goku's brother or father.
Average Saiyans Are Already Planet level+,with Their Great Ape Are easily Dwarf Star level+
And supergirl after arriving on earth can go toe to toe with multiversal threats after 7 years being on earth
Saiyans get stronger with every battle because of their DNA
Even tho the above average saiyans would clap the rest, in terms of the base power of the population, Kryptonians would stomp with ease.
Kryptonian
i agree kryptonians take it....
Oh man, the Dragon Ball fans are going to be pissed that they didn't come in first.
Fan of all 3, but DB mainly. Average Saiyan is getting folded by the average Kryptonian in the sun
@@OverlyEpuxthank you for admitting the truth, I don't know why most db fans are mad when tgeir fav characters don't win
@@mikelbaningo6407 because they never picked up a comic
High tier to high tier, Saiyans should take it high diff (due to scaling from Dr Slump) with viltrumites being a non issue
@EagleCroc sure but that isnt a race so I dont think it can really count. Asgardians though? That’d be interesting. Or even amazons
I don’t see how dragon ball fans would be mad. Average Saiyans are fodder even in the series.
If viltrimites invaded krypton back in the day it would have been a whole different story
far underselling the average saiyans they are all moon level easily seeing how roshi could do it in z. Don't get me wrong the average one isn't beat the average kyptonian but they 100% beating the average viltumite.
No Average Saiyans Are Dwarf Star Level+With Their Great Apes Forms
Yeah makes Sense Saiyans are second to kryptonians
@danco.
Saw your last video 😀. I'm here to support you and enjoy your quality content
Thank you so much 🤗
@@DanCo yeah, no problem.
@@DanCoyou DO get a lot of math wrong though. The earth is SEXtillions of tons. Not QUINtillions. Little errors like that are bothersome. And don't get me started about the "smart atoms" thing.
You’re lit 🔥 bro, keep up the great work dude!!
Saiyans wins in terms of power they already can easily destroy planets plus each one has the ability to grow into giant ape which 10x their power. If we’re talking about designs viltrumites are definitely most badass looking ones
Saiyan Saga Vegeta would solo the Viltrumites and Kryptonians at base level. He can easily and casually destroy planets
A kryptonian child destroyed a galaxy with a sonic scream.
True
Saiyan are op af
@@KaylaEaster-hi1foThe main cast of Saiyans and even piccolo could do that since Z
Your videos are fire!!!
you should do this but the absolute peak of each one
Danny phantom vs invincible
Unlike the Viltrumites, Saiyans are capable of planet level feats while Kryptonians like Superman are capable of Universe level feats. for example, Superman hold a book with infinite pages and bench pressed the Earth for five days. Not to mention he KO'd the World forger.
Goku and beerus were shaking the universe in thier punch clash sayians are capable of universal level feats like kryptonians are.
Still think kryptonians win due to thier potential
@rotemegozi1044 shaking universe is childs play infront of supes, also they don't win just by potential
Exp, strength, BIQ, Speed, Etc
@@rotemegozi1044Superman literally sneezed a universe out of existence 😂😂
@@mikelbaningo6407
1.I know kryptonians are stronger and have more potential
2. If you are referring to his pre crisis sneeze he only sneezed a solar system he didn’t sneeze the universe.
3. A better example will be the time when Superman punched and destroyed multiple timelines with one punch and held the infinite multiverse
@@mclay2859 I just wanted to mention that sayians are also universal threats.
And I am well aware kryptonians like Superman and Superboy prime can show feats on a multiverseal scale if not higher.
You should do a video about all the top fighters of this video vs each other
Saiyans are overall the most powerful as their power continously grows with no upper limit and it doesn't have conditions such as age or environment.
This is ALSO true of kryptonians. Except they don't even need to train for it.
@@pullcarsmelly8051 that's false. Kryptonians need a yellow sun so they have conditions based on environment. They also don't grow fast in power. Superman is unique because he grew up under a yellow sun his entire life other than that most are no where near him in power.
@@diamantemrobinson kryptonians dont need to train. Nothing false about that. They gain their power as a simple byproduct of them EXISTING. And kryptonians have already demonstrated that once they're exposed to a star, their powers are immediately activated. Zod has battled superman within minutes of being on earth. And yeah, he wasn't AS powerful, but he put up a good fight. Whatever you think you know? You DONT.
@@pullcarsmelly8051 did I say they need to train? Which they actually do need to do to have control over their powers. What I called false is you saying this is also true for kyprtonians. They get their power by being in the presence of a yellow sun. They get stronger over time the more they're in the sun like how viltrumites get stronger over time with age. Saiyans can go fight for 30 minutes and gain massive power ups.
@diamantemrobinson Kryptonians are strong anywhere except a red sun. Blue and white stars makes kryptonians even stronger than a yellow sun does.
Man, this is a complex match-up idea...and a great comback fight.
Some sugestions for battles
1 King vegeta vs tragg vs general zod
2 master splinter vs stick
3 death star vs warworld
4 talia al ghul vs karai vs elektra
5 the league of assassins vs the hand vs the foot clan vs the arashikage clan
6 marvel planet ego vs dc green lantern planet mogo
It feels like no one is even close to a Super Saiyan God outside the Dragon Ball Universe. It would take Omni-Man and Superman to stop a Vegeta that isn't holding back.
Supergirl is enough to solo the entire Saiyan race. Kryptonians are massively stronger than Saiyans.
@@ShinzaBansho-vu2sl You've never watched Dragon Ball Super or GT, clearly.
@@PracticalBibleStudies GT isn't even canon, but ok. Kryptonians are still stronger than Saiyans. Baby kryptonians are casually galaxy busters, average Saiyans are star level at best. You clearly need to read a DC comic.
@@ShinzaBansho-vu2sl I was a DC Comics fan long before a Dragon Ball fan. It's not even close. Base level super saiyans are far more powerful than kryptonians under a yellow sun.
@@PracticalBibleStudies If you were actually a DC fan, you would understand that kryptonians are far superior to Saiyans. Kryptonians under a yellow sun are far stronger than Super Saiyans, if you know superman's feats.
The average Saiyan was around 2000-4000, Napa was 6000. Goku and piccolo were around 400 at the start of Z which is all it takes to blow up a planet. Raditz was 1000 which was considered weak. Regardless Krytonians are dead in the water unless they're around a yellow sun.
I agree with but I do have one question where would you put kryptonians cousins the Daxamites at
Raditz was literally the quote "WEAKEST SAIYAN" also they didn't "Cast away" babies they sent babies to weak planets and retrieved them later.
I've always wondered which of these two DC villains was the stronger one:
Mongul (DC) VS Despero (DC)
Both are even stronger than Superman and can overpower several Justice League members by themselves, but are still below the likes of Darkseid.
They are stronger than a super man that's not going all out
Mongul the elder is 2× stronger than Base while Equal in power with Fully charged Supes. While Despero is.......... 3× not even close😅😭🤣🤣
Lol didn’t you just contradict yourself? They are both stronger than Superman but below darkseid, even tho Superman has beaten the shit out of darkseid multiple times. They are not stronger than Superman, maybe stronger than a young or holding back Superman, but not generally stronger than Superman, given even Superman has beaten up Mongul single handedly when pissed off
Raw strength and durability go to Mongul...but Despero is one of the most potent telepaths in all of comics.
So unless Mongul has super resistance to TP, the fight is over before it even begins.
In Young Justice, didn't Mongul have Despero as a captive on the War World?
What is your average Saiyan? Is it really at that power level. I don't think Cryptonians are that far ahead.
Nice video
Interesting video. I do say Kryptonians win on these one as well. This is because, outside of the fact that until nowdays Kryptonians are still my main favorite alien race inside the DC universe and in general from any fictional universe. Just considering being born as an alien humanoid being who won't need anymore to eat or sleep, although it may still be capable of doing so, and won't require oxygen to breathe, which enables him to travel in space and underwater easily. And also that being would be resistant or immune to different forms and levels of lacerations, like blunt force trauma, energy based attacks, falls from great heights, explosions, the cold void of space, toxins and all known diseases on Earth. Not only that but by the main fact that Kryptonians can live almost indefinitely if they reside under continuous exposure to the yellow sun's energy.
Saiyans on the other way, have the ability to increase their power levels through training and combat experience, so they may have inherent limitations. By the other hand Kryptonians, especially under a yellow sun like Earth's, have consistently demonstrated immense power without the need for continuous training. This could mean that Saiyans might eventually reach a power ceiling that Kryptonians can easily surpass. Also, while both Viltrumites and Kryptonians possess superhuman abilities, their power sets are far different. For example, Kryptonians are depicted with heat vision, super breath, and super speed. Viltrumites do not have these exact abilities, which could be a disadvantage in a direct confrontation.
Hey man, idk if youll see this but i love your content. Your hands down the most consistent battle discussion creator for comics so i appreciate your grind. If i could ever ask you a question, id love to know what are your personal favorite characters after years of reading/reasearch!
One question! Who out of the Viltrumites and Saiyans is going to beat Superboy, Supergirl, and Superman? And as a complementary bonus, throw in Zod, Faora and Nam-Ek!!!!
No one, they getting clapped
Goku, broly and maybe vegeta
@@TheBigHead_23 lmao😂
@@TheBigHead_23yeah
Saiyans yes, but not for the viltrumites.
Aren't viltrumites vulnerable to sounds? Superman or any other kryptonian could just sonic scream through a viltrumite ear.
In a war against the 3 you also gotta ignore just their powers and see their tactics to exploit their weaknesses
More then likely they are all gonna discover and use each other's weakness
For example
The sayains and viltrumites would have no problem with exploiting the kyrptonians vulnerabilities to green, yellow kryptonite and other kryptonites
By using it in their gear, weapons and tech
The kryptonians and sayains could use viltrumites weakness to high pitched sound , that one virus, and those bug things against them
And the kryptonites and viltrumites could note the over reliance of alot of lower class sayains is use of the great ape ability and either
A: not fight during full moons or in space around moons
Or B: remove their tails
And also could note that alot of sayains have a severly exploitable weakness to having their tails squeezed causing them to go limp and be powerless and in intense pain
In alot of battles sayains and viltrumites could lead Kryptonians into environments with red suns *which make them weakee* or intense veins of kryptonite
Sayains could lead kryptonians and viltrumites into places with a planned full moon
Viltrumites could lure kryptonians and sayains too planets with no sun or moon
They can all exploit each other to gain an edge and this what if is incredibly interesting to think about
The average kryptonian would be like the average saiyan hitting Mui Goku level
Can you do Dante from devil may cry (full power) vs POH Kratos
Kryptonians>>>>>saiyans>>>>>>>>viltrimites
Kryptonians>>Saiyans>>>>>>Viltrumites
Tbf Saiyans wouldn't be immune to Ki and the wierd techniques
@@CloudLicht nah, Kryptonians>>>>>>>>>>>Saiyans, A baby Kryptonians is strong enough to obliterate an entire Solar System with their screems plus Kryptonians can effortlessly travel through time. Saiyans ain't no match for the Kryptonians. Just look at Superman, he literally just obliterated a entire Solar System with just a Sneeze. Kryptonians are broken.
Hmmm I think you should do like Homelander vs Immortal if it’s actually a close/isn’t close fight
for saiyans to win against kryptonians, their only option is to use hakai (god of destruction move). and against vulteramites, just leave broly on vulteramite planet.😂🤣🤣
Hakai is bullet lv against kryptonians
And also they don't know how to use it
Literally only one person knows that technique and that's Goku. It's about the average person not main character.
I think it’s the ease of power gain that kryptonians have vs the other two
1. Kryptonian have a limit to how much Yellow sun radiation they can intake AND STILL they cannot be more powerful then Yellow sun they absorb from.
2. Viltrumites despite their Smart atoms are still just planet level, which is just your average Freiza force members.
3. Saiyans destroying races like Vilitrumites and Kyrptonians was average grunt work. KRYPTONIANS AND VILTRUMITES are fodder tier to your average Saiyans.
I mean, BROLY alone can vaporize the entire galaxies these race belong to in an instant and fly off yelling KAKAROT! Into the void of space.
Bro, what are you on about. Kryptonians as a baby were destroying galaxies by screaming. Kryptonians don't always need a yellow sun to be strong, they could go to a blue stars and white stars. Also, kryptonians don't have a limit on solar radiation they have drunken in their cells.
It took 7 years in the comic timeline for supergirl to become a multiversal top tier character and can still get stronger infinitely
The problem with average also means some of the super exceptional would raise the average. If it's based on grabbing any random of each species then I'd bet on the Krytonians as long as they're not under a red sun. Otherwise I'd grab based one the few that raised the overall average the Saiyans as either Goku or Vegeta can solo out the other two universes.
what what?Vegeta and Goku can solo two universes?your funny)invincible verse-yes,they both solo,agree,but DC,lol,Superman solo all dragon ball verse
Goku and vegeta will get knocked out by strange visitor superman
@@Returntonature145 The problem comparing one multiverse of one fictional creation vs another, the only reason I give it to Goku and Vegeta is that it seems of late if they fight multiple multiverses are in jeopardy while even this Superman we can only confirm just one at the moment (at least what I can find of him). Like I mentioned though the average Kryptonian is far tougher (solar system buster) than the average Saiyan (maybe a moon buster), as each of them are planet buster capable under a yellow sun in the worst case scenario and we didn't see that level until DBZ introduced Vegeta which they implied at the time he was the toughest among his race by far.
I look at it like this at this time, if you grab a random Krytonian, Viltrumite, or Saiyan and pit them to death I view it as Krytonian > Saiyan > Viltrumite. But if you grab top tier then it's Saiyan > Krytonian > Viltrumite as the very tippy top are all destroying universe level minimum (upper echelon multiverse levels) vs the Viltrumite who are planet busters at best.
@@Returntonature145 even curent base comic Supes solo all DB-verse
@@Returntonature145xD, look like people who cant argue
Superman has his entire race coded into idk if thats just the movie or not
Saiyans without training are like kryptonians without sun.
Please do zuko from Godzilla x kong vs Kong from Kong skull island.
@danco, as always dope video, saw your last one, let me say, im so spoiled with your videos, i dont really like others lol, but haters gone hate, keep grinding my g💯
Please do cosmic armor Superman vs Lucifer Morningstar.
There is no need 😂😂 Lucifer wipes the floor with CAS NO DIF. IF Lucifer didn't notice him with his fight against Mandrakk , he is way below him 😂😂😂
@@PYRATE31or... Maybe lucifer knew there was nothing he could do, so he didnt bother. The cosmic armor represents Superman's ability to be a walking plot device who always wins. Lucifer, as a fictional character WITHOUT plot armor, has NOTHING on THAT. Away with you.
@@pullcarsmelly8051 wtf sit ya ass down dude 🤣🤣 comic Lucifer outscales bruh.
Poor cas
Out of Kryptonians,Saiyans and Viltrumites which one would you want to be born as in our verse?
Imma be a Viltrumite
How about the Angels from DBS vs Kryptonians
The one thing that separates Superman is that Clark has the birthing codex imbedded in his DNA. Danco fucks up again.
Thats only DCEU Supes. Main line supes has nothing like that besides whatever the next arc writer wants to add....
Lol you’re the one who fucked up cos that only happened in live action(Dceu), the normal story in comics or even animations is completely different. Danco is right.
That's The DCEU Superman Only, not in any way, shape or form, the comic variant or really any other variant.
That's the DCEU Superman not the main one in action comics kid 🤡
"facepalm". You REALLY quoted that dumbass movie? NOT CANON.
Saiyans also have Oozaru form, which let's the rank and file Saiyan run roughshod over the rank and file Viltrumite. They have Saibamen to beef up their numbers and if any survive from near fatal injury, they'll become stronger. So the longer the war runs, the more powerful they will be on average. Still outclassed by yellow sun Kryptonians but Saiyans vs Viltrumites? Not even close.
I always wondered that about Superman, he’s just a average dude who lucked out. Though in Man of Steel, since he was natural birth and not preprogrammed, it was implied he would be stronger than other Kryptonians. But imagine Zod growing up on Earth and soaking in solar energy for 30 years. He would have been unbeatable.
Kryptonians and saiyans looking at the Viltrumites
Who invited them bro
Strength & Durability:
Power level of 280 of master roshi's full power was able to destroy the moon. The moon is 27% the size of Earth, 280 * 4 = 1120, this is the amount of power level it takes to destroy a whole planet eating an attack from a power level of 1120 already gives you the durability to withstand a planetary attack, able to damage someone with a power level of 1120 with a punch is already large county/continental.
Speed:
Piccolo's Special Beam cannon can travel from Earth to the Moon in 4 seconds (He Destroyed the moon) It takes 1.4 seconds for Light to earth to the moon Raditz Easily Dodged it ! Already putting a majority of saiyans easily at the speed of light.
Ability:
They have great ape transformation that can multiply their power by 10x even Saiyan baby's can do it, the also have energy manipulation that they can concentrate and multily it's power by Idk how much at this point, every time they have near death experience they have the Zenkai boost which is similiar to Allen The Alien's ability. Goku had one Zenkai boost who's power level went from 90,000 to 3,000,000 Let that sink in....
This is why dragon ball fans get mad when Goku gets compared by Saitama, when Goku had a power level of 25 billion on Buu Saga Super Saiyan 3 multiply 25 billion by 1120 is how many planets goku can destroy, Pass buu saga already puts him multi universal
Vegeta destroyed a planet in base form
So pretty much as a whole race its the kryps, but if talking individually, then its the Saiyans?? I understand the other supes, prime and all but can someone like reslly break down how a regular superman is stronger than s being that constantly evoles using spiritual and physical energy, just as fast and strong...
Especially Broly he learns and adapts so quickly even though it was rage that drove his energy
What about Gladiator?
Keep in mind, there is no reason to be mad over any ranking of these races as it is up to the writers how strong they are. If a writer suddenly decided to give all viltrumites an irresistible beam of destruction, then viltrumites would be the best, but that could happen to any of the races.
I just want to see Gohan Mark and Jon gang up on some villains...
Don’t forget that along side there crazy strength under a yellow sun, most of them are super intelligent an have built super that give them the super strength without a yellow sun and the tech could turn red suns in to yellow ones
Krytonians definitely win this. Do videos on Silver Age Superman Vs Classic Adam Warlock, Superman/Superboy Prime Vs The Magus, & Cosmic Armor Superman Vs LT Adam Warlock. Also, do videos on Captain Atom Vs The Silver Surfer & The Punisher Vs David Cain.
I can tell you why the sayains didnt use gravity training
Reason 1: it wasnt a widely known trick even amongst other races, dr.briefs was the one who got the idea to make a gravity chamber goku hadnt even thought of that before, yes sayains were stronger because of their 10x earths gravity planet but even then its likely most sayains didnt give this a second thought
Reason 2: alot of them were so cocky that they felt they didnt need too especially because of reason 3 *ill get to it in a minute* but also the lower classes were bullied by higher class sayains and also the higher level frieza force soldiers into believing they could never actually be worth anything as it took years of training to actually get stronger *which we see as goku on earth only got to a PL of 400-900 through his entire og dragon ball journey without extra assistance*
And once youve adapted to the level of the gravity training under it would yield the same results as normal training because your body is used too it and has already grown all it could from that level
Reason 3: they often relied on their ape forms
Sayains when they couldn't take planets with their already overwhelming and dominating presence and power they could simply wait for a full moon and then invade the planet
A sayain with a power level of 1000 when becoming a great ape would gain a power level of 10,000
Now that doesn't sound that impressive at first but keep in mind something that is often looked over by fans
A PL of 1000 or lower so is the average for
Alot of frieza soldiers
And when you start getting into higher terriroties you are exceptional and when you get to ginyu territory
Akira has gone as far as to say they are mutants of their individual races
160,000 is ginyus power level im pretty sure or somewhere around there
He is the one closest to frieza
Now vegeta back in the sayain saga had a power level of 18,000 before all his zenkais on namek but with one transformation
Gained a PL of 180,000 this is not only annihilating ginyu but is working its way up to friezas 1st forms 530,000
The closest to anyone popular in the galaxy at the time besides friezas own family
Which means they are severly outclassing most races naturally which leads to reason 4
Reason 4: frieza was paranoid of the sayains becoming to powerful and feared the rise of a legendary super Saiyan or a mythical super sayain god
He likely didnt let the sayains do much training because it was discomforting and especially in the original z anime continuity
Seeing people like bardock who was seen as a low class take kannasa
It made him incredibly paranoid
Sayains were powerful but were hindered
By lack of exploits
Frieza hindering them
Being prideful or bullied
And being genocided when they got too strong
Robert Kirkman in an interview that Invincible would beat the brakes off Superman. since he's the creator then it's just fact and I find that hilarious 😂
He isn't the creator of Superman so you can't use his statement as an argument.
I honestly think its crazy how we look over the saiyans abilities to turn into gods, teleport, manipulation of pure energy .all so we as Americans can say super man is better. Saiyans can destroy planets they just choose not to. And they are masters at different martial arts. Super man and invincible barely can box. The depend only on their powers.
Kriptonians have their own styles of fighting, along with their own version of Ultra instinct just without any flashing transformations. And the average saiyan can destroy planets, the average kripton can destroy universes and more
You're analyze is terrible. Vegeta early in the show could one shot planets.
No super man or Clark was originally mentioned to be as strong as a 1000 krypton people
Okay so I'm saying this before I watch this. A: I don't know much about Viltrumites so I can't say much.
B" In all reality (if Viltrumites are similar to both kryptonians and Saiyans) the winners depend on 3 variables.
1. Location
2. If it's a death battle or not
3. If we're talking about individual beings from said race or all of them as a whole.
you have to include that bro is allergic to green pebbles
Wrong my guy u forgot saiyans has the great ape transformation n kryptonians r weak on they own planet 😂 master roshi blew up a moon with a power level n the hundreds meaning a power level of 1000 is enough to blow it up n that’s if u going off how far he blew the moon up n how long it took to reach it meaning u can scale it to being even more powerful up close 😂😂so stop being goofy n do the math bardock was still considered being a low class warrior with the power level of 3000