You had me looking up if there was a secret knights radiant order called “stonewoods” I forgot about, and then I just realized it was stonewards filtered through a different accent.
Great episode, as always. What I like about you both is that you bring something different from what 17th Shard brings to TH-cam. They are SO familiar with all the things, magics, lore, characters, etc. and while that's good for what it is, I like you guys because it's like street level knowledge. Jimmy has ear to the streets and Christian is just tapping the cremling hive mind as needed. It's just good listening. Thanks again!
I'm still calling that Ishar is in fact causing the madness instead of keeping it back. Also Kelzier is like a Herald since he is a cognitive shadow attached to a physical body. Just like the Heralds, except their bodies are made from Stormlight.
"Honor's touch still lingers" I assumed was a reference to the blog entries that the storm father is sharing with the Alethi death and destruction brothers - Dalinar and Gavilar.
I don't think these Cosmere references are necessarily as bad as you guys sometimes think they are. If we pretend that we don't know anything about the wider Cosmere, the first interlude gave a little more information on Thaidakar (saying he's equivalent in power to a Herald) and raising him up as another more major threat, gave more detail on Ashyn, specifically pointed out that people who are shorter than the main characters may be from another world/working against them, gave a little more info on Aons, and introduced a new type/form of magic that they may connect to Zahel if they're paying attention. To someone without Cosmere knowledge it introduces so many new questions and theories, all of which could very well still be answered within Stormlight. Its only because we know the answers to these questions from reading other books/the coppermind that the chapter becomes less interesting and more heavy-handed imo
Do a viewer survey to see what storming level we are 🎉 I humbly suggest the following categories: 5th ideal: hear errors/commissions in the episodes and silently (or not) correct the hosts. Feel like you could definitely do a more complete cosmere analysis, but of course love our hosts and the podcast regardless. Explaining The Cosmere to friends is too difficult - there's just SO MUCH there! 4th ideal: you know a lot of the stuff on the podcasts already, some new nuggets each episode. You are the one explaining The Cosmere to friends, but had to let go of those who didn't get into it - can't save them all! 3rd ideal: Big fan of The Cosmere! Read all the books (of course) and enjoy learning about connections you may have missed on your third read-through. Wish all your friends would love Brando as much as you do, but you'll stay friends even if they have poor taste in books. 2nd ideal: you've read The Cosmere, but it may have been a few years ago for some of them and you're a little rusty on characters in the earlier books. Thankfully, there is a podcast out there that helps those that cannot help themselves by making connections and reminding you of the greatness that is Stormlight and The Cosmere. 1st ideal: I am on my Stormlight journey, on board in the bandwagon and loving it no matter the destination! Will I get to read the end before I die? Maybe not, but it's a great life along the way. I have the strength to enjoy The Cosmere connections without necessarily having read the weaker books. Adept: shhh... I am reading Stormlight for the first time and don't mind the spoilers. It's fun to listen to others nerding out about it so I don't have to. Might get into it later, but loving hanging around the cool kids for now.
I don't know what category I would fit into.... I've read all Cosmere up to date. I listen to several podcasts to see what I might have missed, what others know of how certain things tie into other lore, myths, theology or homage to other writers. Then post my thoughts, opinions and theories
I do love the Ghostbloods pulling an indiana Jones antagonist in this series, i really think they are powering up Shallan because she will be fighting MULTIPLE power systems simultaneously, we KNOW that Mraize has breaths and access to several different powers in his collection, he was seeking bonding one of Sja anats spren. So its entirely possibly this showdown in the Spiritual realm will be unbelieveable.
If you look up the definition of "hearald" I feel like Thaidakar could definitely be considered one .. and btw I'm a big Cosmere fan but you guys still catch me with new info every once in a while 😅
The "who's you elden ring waifu" is just his podcast with Dan Wells it's not a special video or anything. (The answer is Ranni, obviously, cuz you can marry her in game)
The Aon Ala is related to beauty. The Herald of beauty is Shalash. Shallan is named after Shalash. Shallan's ability is of illusion and conning people with false appearances. Truly big brain 200 IQ move by Brandon.
I don't think it was mentioned but out of the many thoughts I have on these two interludes, one thing caught my attention. Todium refers to their galaxy that they reside in. I've always wondered about the Cosmere and if it has galaxies like ours does but I've never checked the Coppermind about it. If it is the case that they are in one galaxy alone then that is a huge reveal isn't it? Are the Aethers from another galaxy in the Cosmere? Is the Cosmere actually just this one galaxy and that's it? Idk, maybe this had all been discussed in a WoB but it seemed worth pointing out.
Christians worried about getting “stormbucks” and “spheres” messed up… as an Aussie that’s what they would be called (dollarbucks). Also what other podcast has the sentence “absolute bangers from b sando” in it. Keep it up sir.
Interesting how you read Taravangian’s interlude so differently…..like to me it clearly started out with him struggling. I think by the end he’s exerted full control over the Shard….. Completely opposite of what Jimmy is saying
@@durvilemayfieldsr7150 interesting you think Renarin was warning him about what tho? From what I recall he was just saying he feels sorry/bad for Taravangian. But perhaps he feels bad for T cuz he sees how bad things will get for him carrying the shard Odium….
I'm certain the "suckling child" death rattle is referring to Dalinar and Elokar. Killing the child is Dalinar taking the throne from Elokar. There, done.
One thing that intrigued me is that Kalak called Kelsier Herald (capital letter at the beginining?) like, is there more to this title than we know? is it a cosmere wide title?
You had me looking up if there was a secret knights radiant order called “stonewoods” I forgot about, and then I just realized it was stonewards filtered through a different accent.
Great episode, as always. What I like about you both is that you bring something different from what 17th Shard brings to TH-cam. They are SO familiar with all the things, magics, lore, characters, etc. and while that's good for what it is, I like you guys because it's like street level knowledge. Jimmy has ear to the streets and Christian is just tapping the cremling hive mind as needed. It's just good listening. Thanks again!
I'm still calling that Ishar is in fact causing the madness instead of keeping it back.
Also Kelzier is like a Herald since he is a cognitive shadow attached to a physical body. Just like the Heralds, except their bodies are made from Stormlight.
Ishar Bonded their madness to one of the unmade
And Marsh is a Herald two
@@durvilemayfieldsr7150 Nah Marsh is very much alive, he's just using atium hacks like Rashek.
"Honor's touch still lingers" I assumed was a reference to the blog entries that the storm father is sharing with the Alethi death and destruction brothers - Dalinar and Gavilar.
Yeah or more simply just the stormfather/stormlight/honor spren
Yeah or more simply just the storm father/honor spren/oathpact
Jimmy is right, Shallan gave him the dagger
I don't think these Cosmere references are necessarily as bad as you guys sometimes think they are. If we pretend that we don't know anything about the wider Cosmere, the first interlude gave a little more information on Thaidakar (saying he's equivalent in power to a Herald) and raising him up as another more major threat, gave more detail on Ashyn, specifically pointed out that people who are shorter than the main characters may be from another world/working against them, gave a little more info on Aons, and introduced a new type/form of magic that they may connect to Zahel if they're paying attention. To someone without Cosmere knowledge it introduces so many new questions and theories, all of which could very well still be answered within Stormlight. Its only because we know the answers to these questions from reading other books/the coppermind that the chapter becomes less interesting and more heavy-handed imo
The audio starts with "Interludes. Kalak. Odium."
SO SHOOK
As a hard-core cosmere-naut, I like ya Jimmy ❤
The dying baby and more breath has war breaker vibes!
Do a viewer survey to see what storming level we are 🎉 I humbly suggest the following categories:
5th ideal: hear errors/commissions in the episodes and silently (or not) correct the hosts. Feel like you could definitely do a more complete cosmere analysis, but of course love our hosts and the podcast regardless. Explaining The Cosmere to friends is too difficult - there's just SO MUCH there!
4th ideal: you know a lot of the stuff on the podcasts already, some new nuggets each episode. You are the one explaining The Cosmere to friends, but had to let go of those who didn't get into it - can't save them all!
3rd ideal: Big fan of The Cosmere! Read all the books (of course) and enjoy learning about connections you may have missed on your third read-through. Wish all your friends would love Brando as much as you do, but you'll stay friends even if they have poor taste in books.
2nd ideal: you've read The Cosmere, but it may have been a few years ago for some of them and you're a little rusty on characters in the earlier books. Thankfully, there is a podcast out there that helps those that cannot help themselves by making connections and reminding you of the greatness that is Stormlight and The Cosmere.
1st ideal: I am on my Stormlight journey, on board in the bandwagon and loving it no matter the destination! Will I get to read the end before I die? Maybe not, but it's a great life along the way. I have the strength to enjoy The Cosmere connections without necessarily having read the weaker books.
Adept: shhh... I am reading Stormlight for the first time and don't mind the spoilers. It's fun to listen to others nerding out about it so I don't have to. Might get into it later, but loving hanging around the cool kids for now.
I don't know what category I would fit into.... I've read all Cosmere up to date. I listen to several podcasts to see what I might have missed, what others know of how certain things tie into other lore, myths, theology or homage to other writers. Then post my thoughts, opinions and theories
I do love the Ghostbloods pulling an indiana Jones antagonist in this series, i really think they are powering up Shallan because she will be fighting MULTIPLE power systems simultaneously, we KNOW that Mraize has breaths and access to several different powers in his collection, he was seeking bonding one of Sja anats spren. So its entirely possibly this showdown in the Spiritual realm will be unbelieveable.
If you look up the definition of "hearald" I feel like Thaidakar could definitely be considered one .. and btw I'm a big Cosmere fan but you guys still catch me with new info every once in a while 😅
The "who's you elden ring waifu" is just his podcast with Dan Wells it's not a special video or anything. (The answer is Ranni, obviously, cuz you can marry her in game)
The interludes and epigraphs are written after the whole book. So like after the beta read, more or less when the final edit is in going on.
The Aon Ala is related to beauty. The Herald of beauty is Shalash. Shallan is named after Shalash. Shallan's ability is of illusion and conning people with false appearances. Truly big brain 200 IQ move by Brandon.
I don't think it was mentioned but out of the many thoughts I have on these two interludes, one thing caught my attention. Todium refers to their galaxy that they reside in. I've always wondered about the Cosmere and if it has galaxies like ours does but I've never checked the Coppermind about it. If it is the case that they are in one galaxy alone then that is a huge reveal isn't it? Are the Aethers from another galaxy in the Cosmere? Is the Cosmere actually just this one galaxy and that's it? Idk, maybe this had all been discussed in a WoB but it seemed worth pointing out.
It seems he’s blending the cosmere
I could see this pattern of one herald and one odium interlude continuing after each day
Also I love how this could feed into the baby champion theory
The baby champion is Lift.
She creates Life Light....
If Todium can kill her
Whats the copper mine?
Christians worried about getting “stormbucks” and “spheres” messed up… as an Aussie that’s what they would be called (dollarbucks). Also what other podcast has the sentence “absolute bangers from b sando” in it. Keep it up sir.
Wasn't zseth in tu bayla for a bit while he was in a slave?
I don't remember but just because you mentioned the location......
Those instruments are important when Kaladin plays the sound of Roshar....
*Tone of Roshar
Interesting how you read Taravangian’s interlude so differently…..like to me it clearly started out with him struggling. I think by the end he’s exerted full control over the Shard…..
Completely opposite of what Jimmy is saying
Ranarin warned him in rhythm of war. Promises made.....
@@durvilemayfieldsr7150 interesting you think Renarin was warning him about what tho? From what I recall he was just saying he feels sorry/bad for Taravangian. But perhaps he feels bad for T cuz he sees how bad things will get for him carrying the shard Odium….
I'm certain the "suckling child" death rattle is referring to Dalinar and Elokar. Killing the child is Dalinar taking the throne from Elokar. There, done.
One thing that intrigued me is that Kalak called Kelsier Herald (capital letter at the beginining?) like, is there more to this title than we know? is it a cosmere wide title?