The mesh of different cultures is something that Disney has always done. Even with lion king (including Beyoncé version) they bring in all the countries of Asia or Africa to create this utopia rather than pick one country/tribe and put energy to focus on that tribe. I think they’re improving since they were able to focus on one group for Moana and they have a proposed yourba princess movie coming.
@@francesca6124 quote from an article “Disney has acquired a pitch for Sadé, a live-action fairytale film about an African Princess, based on an original idea by Ola Shokunbi and Lindsey Reed Palmer”. The name is typical from the yourba tribe.
Moana was actually also a combined mesh of the different cultures in Polynesia..it didn't focused on one Polynesian culture,and jus mashed it up together..
I just saw raya n the last dragon. You guys go into real depth in the perspective of a producer about morals, reason, costume, sound, and visuals to complete the movie and I see the downside. But as a viewer who just wanna watch a movie, it was a good movie 🤣😂
I had that mindset too, but even then I noticed the inconsistency with the pose before they turned to stone at the end and it bothered me so much like whyyyy?! ... visuals were pretty though
Would love to see you guys break down Crouching Tiger! We got a snippet but a full video would be pretty amazing! Great discussion like always. Thank you guys! 🙏🏽
This episode was great and refreshing, hearing honest takes on these films and your perspectives made this vid go by quickly while I was working! Keep it up boys!
Why I feel the line "save Martha" works is because Bruce never got over the death of his parents and even stated that using their deaths could work as possible contingency against him
If that's canon, that makes Superman a manipulative a-hole using someone's dead mother to save his own, who he couldn't even call mom in his dying breath.
I personally found the first 2 acts to be rushed as all hell. But I loved the animation, the story was still intriguing, the characters were likable, and I LOVED the third act. I would love to see a Raya TV show one day.
1:05:18 (ish) Corridor Digital does a series where they react to good and bad stunts where they go into what makes a fight scene good (and they talk with professional stunt people). I think there was a clip where they reacted to Jason Stathom or Matt Damon where there were so many cuts that made you go, "are they actually fighting?" I like their Good/Bad CGI series too
David, I did not know you were a comicbook movie fan. Really appreciate this video. This is my first time discovering your podcast . ZSJL is the GOAT. Nice crochet Sean Wotherspoons.
The first podcast of my summer break. Can't wait to listen. As a half cambodian, I thought Raya was underwhelming and thought there would be a little bit more.
there's actually multiple story arcs that is drowned in constant retcons and reboots and retcons and reboots rinse and repeat (which i can understand how someone who isn't an avid reader of comic books can easily over look) where batman's no kill code is put the question and the show you, david was talking about was actually how the story arc plays out. I think the story arc is reiterated every time they reboot the dc canon (which is convoluted af)
Rays was also (correct me if I’m wrong) the only Disney princess movie that wasn’t a musical, personally I love musicals so I don’t know how I feel about that
Hey David and Ed, Great episode guys! Love you guys discuss Zack Snyder's Justice League! I am pretty sure the in future, there will be a fuckin documentary on the Justice League movie disaster. Zack Snyder said that cyborg is the heart of the story so it was very awesome to see that. I know that the studio gave Joss Whedon notes as well on what to take out from Synder's film and Whedon did his stuff as well. Snyder wanted to make a 3 part Justice League movie so that is why there was a cliffhanger. He is really passionate about these characters whether people like his vision or not. So who knows what will happen but I am happy that we saw what we were suppose to see. Also, the music score for the movie was EPIC as fuck!!! Take care dudes!!!
I remember Michelle trachtenberg saying that joss whedon wasn’t allowed to be alone in a room with her during the run of Buffy 🤢 he’s an all around creep
The purple demons were supposed to be the opposite of the dragons, like the dragons were the source of life on earth and everything, while the demons were spawned to be the thing to be opposite and the death of life.
it's a little weird that joss made the woman look weak and is called sexist because he was the creator of buffy the vampire slayer where the lead is a strong female.
Is it coincidence that CinemaSins also just uploaded their "Everything Wrong with Raya and the Last Dragon In 19 Minutes Or Less" video today as well?! Hahaha!
Thank goodness I was not the only one who didn't like Raya and how hard they were trying to push and rep us southeast azn people but like cmon man it was not it
The first time hearing the Korean superhero name, I thought they said “the gooky” and had to rewind the vid just to make sure. That I wasn’t hearing things😂
I gotta admit that the show The Boys is a good portrayal of what it would be like if heroes live in our world where money rules everything. It's a dark concept and do I like the idea that not all heroes are good people.
I think HOPE is the overall theme of Raya not trust. Yes, she misplaced her trust in the beginning but why did she keep on fighting? She hoped by putting the stone back together it would save the world. Despite all the bad that had happened to Raya and when there is only a slim chance of averting the end of the world, she had to cling onto hope that the dragon would be able to fight the "shadows" and hope the backstabbing beyotch made the right decision in the end but you guys brought up so many good points. I loved this episode with Ed, like always!
The idea behind Taeguki is essentially like Captain America. A patriotic hero who wears their flag as a suit. There’s also a Captain Britain for example. All their suits in the comics look ridiculous, but it’s comics so it don’t really bother me haha. The name tho, I agree whole heartedly haha. C’mon Marvel. I do believe he’s meant for the Korean fans in South Korea because we as Asians American are happy to just see an Asian superhero. But for Asians in Asia it tends to be more nationalistic. “I want to see a Chinese hero” or “I want to see a Korean hero,”. Amadeus Cho also goes by the pseudonym Brawn now and last I read comics, he was part of The Champions with Miles Morales and Kamala Khan. I think he’s an aight character. My favorite legacy hero that needs more love imo is Daredevil’s protege, Sam Chung aka Blindspot. Dude has a pretty crazy origin. *spoilers* I’ma nerd rant so feel free to ignore haha He gets his eyes ripped out by an maniacal serial killer Inhuman named Muse. So his mother brings him to The Hand’s base, a mystical organization that Daredevil fights a lot, to recover his eyes by making a deal with the beast of the hand (like making a deal with the devil). So his mom died and Sam is taken in by an organization called The Order of the Dragon. Then I became to poor to afford comics haha
Batman's whole thing is that he's at the peak of what a human can do and also maybe that no one knows who he actually is apparently. He's insanely skilled in everything but not the actual best at them, if you don't include his detective skills. Lady Shiva is a better fighter and has kicked his ass a few times. John Constantine is a better tactician as he doesn't need a lot prep time to figure out ways to defeat his enemies, or to outsmart both Heaven and Hell while still having them fear him. Lex Luthor is smarter than Batman as well if you just base it on IQ, but he's even been able to outsmart the smartest creature in all of DC.
i respectfully disagree on Raya. when you compare to current societal issues amongst races here in the US, i think it is very comparable. in the end, just like in real life, it would be great if all the different "tribes" could come together to make a greater whole. also, it's a movie for kids with shorter attention span...4 hours is a bit much to try to keep kids interested. p.s. enjoy the podcasts. keep it up. 👍
Raya is a kids movie, that's why it moves so fast. Kids don't have the attention span. The baby thing was weird though, but it's so disney can make toys and possibly a spin off.
ngl, i watched justice league in theaters… i didn’t know ray fisher’s character was cyborg until the final battle where i think he said “booyah” :/// and i watched teen titans religiously as a kid so joss whedon is fr a criminal lol… . . let’s not even get into his racism/sexism evident in the Marvel films he was apart of
also speaking of kung fu movies, can you guys do a reaction to ip man 4? I have a feeling ya are going to hate it and that'd be content xD but ofc if ya like it then that's cool too
The only reason why I think someone could say Raya was in the "wrong" was because she only wanted to put the gem back together for "selfish" reasons: getting her Ba back. But all of her actions and distrust are still valid. What'd people expect when a 12 year old essentially has to navigate jungle and hostile tribes all by herself lol.
Really? I really enjoyed Raya, didn't catch any of the audio / video/ cultural / continuity things you talked about. Better than Soul. Not as good as Coco.
I so glad someone talk about rayla evil character girl should be one who should ask for forgiveness and trusts is not awkard know cause didn’t Mariel work on rayla she working from home.
Wongfu had it right. We Asians needs to create our own narratives.
The mesh of different cultures is something that Disney has always done. Even with lion king (including Beyoncé version) they bring in all the countries of Asia or Africa to create this utopia rather than pick one country/tribe and put energy to focus on that tribe. I think they’re improving since they were able to focus on one group for Moana and they have a proposed yourba princess movie coming.
YORUBA PRINCESS MOVIE?!?!?😱
@@francesca6124 quote from an article “Disney has acquired a pitch for Sadé, a live-action fairytale film about an African Princess, based on an original idea by Ola Shokunbi and Lindsey Reed Palmer”. The name is typical from the yourba tribe.
Moana was actually also a combined mesh of the different cultures in Polynesia..it didn't focused on one Polynesian culture,and jus mashed it up together..
Joss also removed the Asian character "The Atom" who was Cyborg's father's coworker.
Whedon removed a lot of things. Martian Manhunter, Cyborg's Arc, Iris West, etc.
I just saw raya n the last dragon. You guys go into real depth in the perspective of a producer about morals, reason, costume, sound, and visuals to complete the movie and I see the downside. But as a viewer who just wanna watch a movie, it was a good movie 🤣😂
I had that mindset too, but even then I noticed the inconsistency with the pose before they turned to stone at the end and it bothered me so much like whyyyy?! ... visuals were pretty though
love the conversation David - but um, where can i get those Nike house slippers? lol
Would love to see you guys break down Crouching Tiger! We got a snippet but a full video would be pretty amazing! Great discussion like always. Thank you guys! 🙏🏽
Oh yes! I enjoy the comic talks you and Ed have! More David!! I beg of you!
David please get boze back on y’all’s energy is crazy
I haven't seen boze for a long time!!
@@gv_tube she's on Twitch! True crime stuff if you're interested. It's a fun time
Needed this. Been a gloomy/stormy week. Nothing better to do than listening to the podcast 🙌🏼
Love watching your analysis on things. Keep it up.
This episode was great and refreshing, hearing honest takes on these films and your perspectives made this vid go by quickly while I was working! Keep it up boys!
Why I feel the line "save Martha" works is because Bruce never got over the death of his parents and even stated that using their deaths could work as possible contingency against him
If that's canon, that makes Superman a manipulative a-hole using someone's dead mother to save his own, who he couldn't even call mom in his dying breath.
@@DurianKing is it wrong to manipulate someone so you won’t die? Lol
@@DurianKing superman didnt even know who batman was at the time, he was just saying the name of his own mother
Yo David, this podcast was dope! I enjoyed this discussion of different shows/movies :)
I’m way too happy to hear you guys love the Snyder Cut hahaha
I play these podcast in the background while I work out 👏THURSDAY AND SUNDAYS ALWAYS LIT 🔥
I personally found the first 2 acts to be rushed as all hell. But I loved the animation, the story was still intriguing, the characters were likable, and I LOVED the third act. I would love to see a Raya TV show one day.
YOOOOO where can I cop the airmax 97 slippers David has on. Them junks look comfortable for around the house lowkeyyyy
Awesome video!
Could you guys do a deeper review of the Watchman? I feel like the conversation would be so cool.
I mean, it’s supposed to be a feel good movie for the kids. We can literally nitpick any Disney movie.
1:05:18 (ish) Corridor Digital does a series where they react to good and bad stunts where they go into what makes a fight scene good (and they talk with professional stunt people). I think there was a clip where they reacted to Jason Stathom or Matt Damon where there were so many cuts that made you go, "are they actually fighting?"
I like their Good/Bad CGI series too
"History from below" I think that should be in mind
YES! Been wanting to hear your review on Zack Snyder's Justice League, ever since you've tweeted it.
2:43 he's basically Korean Superman. he's super strong, can fly, is almost invulnerable and can shoot lasers from his eyes.
Again another great podcast with Ed. It's always great to the Ed on here.
Some family friends and our family used to watch Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon when we would visit each other.
46:54 Does anyone know what is the name of the netflix series?
Jupiter's Legacy
Keep up the great work David 😎👍
It's crazy when I just finished watching a compilation of David so funny moments on JKN, then I see a new video just now. LETS GOOO 🔥❤️
I honestly didn't like Raya and the last dragon, and was irritated half the time. My friends overhyped the movie for me...
Yeah it was okay. The trailer looked good, but I agree with David and Ed about why they didn't like Raya.
Movie makes no sense. It basically says "If someone tries to genocide you just hug it out and maybe they will realize their mistake".
Lmao I missed the notification. I can at least enjoy it at work and on my way home
man that last I hate you had me begging for air. Maybe it was the CBD but that shit was funny af
David, I did not know you were a comicbook movie fan. Really appreciate this video. This is my first time discovering your podcast . ZSJL is the GOAT. Nice crochet Sean Wotherspoons.
The first podcast of my summer break. Can't wait to listen. As a half cambodian, I thought Raya was underwhelming and thought there would be a little bit more.
I've been waiting for thissssss
Yo I can only imagine he just/only grew it out but I really like edd's hair like this
there's actually multiple story arcs that is drowned in constant retcons and reboots and retcons and reboots rinse and repeat (which i can understand how someone who isn't an avid reader of comic books can easily over look) where batman's no kill code is put the question and the show you, david was talking about was actually how the story arc plays out. I think the story arc is reiterated every time they reboot the dc canon (which is convoluted af)
You really didn't try with the timestamps huh, still love you dave
Agree the trust thing was annoying. There was a lot of stupid stuff going on and it was very polarizing
Rays was also (correct me if I’m wrong) the only Disney princess movie that wasn’t a musical, personally I love musicals so I don’t know how I feel about that
My guy Ed Park 🔥🔥 what's Ed stand for??? Edmond?? Edward?? Edson??
Edward
Hey David and Ed,
Great episode guys! Love you guys discuss Zack Snyder's Justice League! I am pretty sure the in future, there will be a fuckin documentary on the Justice League movie disaster. Zack Snyder said that cyborg is the heart of the story so it was very awesome to see that. I know that the studio gave Joss Whedon notes as well on what to take out from Synder's film and Whedon did his stuff as well. Snyder wanted to make a 3 part Justice League movie so that is why there was a cliffhanger. He is really passionate about these characters whether people like his vision or not. So who knows what will happen but I am happy that we saw what we were suppose to see. Also, the music score for the movie was EPIC as fuck!!! Take care dudes!!!
David stop making me buy things, I’m broke now😂😂
I remember Michelle trachtenberg saying that joss whedon wasn’t allowed to be alone in a room with her during the run of Buffy 🤢 he’s an all around creep
YAY ED IS ON THE EPISODE TODAY. You two are my absolute favs :)
David So.. What is your preview opinion On
MARVEL'S Shang-chi and the Legends of the Ten Rings
I was 2min in and ai noticed David’s shoes 💀
The purple demons were supposed to be the opposite of the dragons, like the dragons were the source of life on earth and everything, while the demons were spawned to be the thing to be opposite and the death of life.
Koreans do have a super power, it's their Han.
The in sync foot shaking.
it's a little weird that joss made the woman look weak and is called sexist because he was the creator of buffy the vampire slayer where the lead is a strong female.
Another 🔥 ep
Is it coincidence that CinemaSins also just uploaded their "Everything Wrong with Raya and the Last Dragon In 19 Minutes Or Less" video today as well?! Hahaha!
Can you get Noel Miller and Kody Ko on here??! Noel was at that comedian boxing match you talked about awhile ago!!
Favorite guest
Thank goodness I was not the only one who didn't like Raya and how hard they were trying to push and rep us southeast azn people but like cmon man it was not it
Yo that baby was wild I remember yelling out “KICK IT!”.
The first time hearing the Korean superhero name, I thought they said “the gooky” and had to rewind the vid just to make sure. That I wasn’t hearing things😂
That Amazonian scene was my favorite part
"pretty short" it was 1h57mins long!
I gotta admit that the show The Boys is a good portrayal of what it would be like if heroes live in our world where money rules everything. It's a dark concept and do I like the idea that not all heroes are good people.
WB wanted the Justice league movie to be only 2 hours exactly. So Whedon had to cut everything to please the WB gods
I love that GeniusBrain’s and Cinemasins’ reviews of Raya come out on the same day!
I think HOPE is the overall theme of Raya not trust. Yes, she misplaced her trust in the beginning but why did she keep on fighting? She hoped by putting the stone back together it would save the world. Despite all the bad that had happened to Raya and when there is only a slim chance of averting the end of the world, she had to cling onto hope that the dragon would be able to fight the "shadows" and hope the backstabbing beyotch made the right decision in the end but you guys brought up so many good points. I loved this episode with Ed, like always!
I thought y’all were gonna mention The Boys on Amazon prime
It seems the reason for your disapproval of the Korean hero is the fact that he is 'Korean' and not the costume.
The idea behind Taeguki is essentially like Captain America. A patriotic hero who wears their flag as a suit. There’s also a Captain Britain for example. All their suits in the comics look ridiculous, but it’s comics so it don’t really bother me haha. The name tho, I agree whole heartedly haha. C’mon Marvel. I do believe he’s meant for the Korean fans in South Korea because we as Asians American are happy to just see an Asian superhero. But for Asians in Asia it tends to be more nationalistic. “I want to see a Chinese hero” or “I want to see a Korean hero,”.
Amadeus Cho also goes by the pseudonym Brawn now and last I read comics, he was part of The Champions with Miles Morales and Kamala Khan. I think he’s an aight character. My favorite legacy hero that needs more love imo is Daredevil’s protege, Sam Chung aka Blindspot. Dude has a pretty crazy origin. *spoilers* I’ma nerd rant so feel free to ignore haha
He gets his eyes ripped out by an maniacal serial killer Inhuman named Muse. So his mother brings him to The Hand’s base, a mystical organization that Daredevil fights a lot, to recover his eyes by making a deal with the beast of the hand (like making a deal with the devil). So his mom died and Sam is taken in by an organization called The Order of the Dragon. Then I became to poor to afford comics haha
Have you guys watched Doom Patrol?
U guys should watch and review jet li's "hero" it's probably his best movie, and it's also a gorgeous one
I have one thing to say to David... WHAT ARE THOSE!?!?!?
Batman's whole thing is that he's at the peak of what a human can do and also maybe that no one knows who he actually is apparently. He's insanely skilled in everything but not the actual best at them, if you don't include his detective skills. Lady Shiva is a better fighter and has kicked his ass a few times. John Constantine is a better tactician as he doesn't need a lot prep time to figure out ways to defeat his enemies, or to outsmart both Heaven and Hell while still having them fear him. Lex Luthor is smarter than Batman as well if you just base it on IQ, but he's even been able to outsmart the smartest creature in all of DC.
David please review "The man from nowhere"
Your friend turning down Shangchi really fucked up. Lol
i respectfully disagree on Raya. when you compare to current societal issues amongst races here in the US, i think it is very comparable. in the end, just like in real life, it would be great if all the different "tribes" could come together to make a greater whole. also, it's a movie for kids with shorter attention span...4 hours is a bit much to try to keep kids interested.
p.s. enjoy the podcasts. keep it up. 👍
I love that you guys broke down both versions of justice league yall rock
Seeing all the scenes Joss Whedon cut from the first two Avengers movies made me mad. He always cuts the best/most important moments from his films.
Yall have to give ur opinions on Wish Dragon
I was waiting for this raya review ever since David said his opinion on it in the Mariel podcast
So America decides Koreans want The Gooki. Meanwhile they're actually reading Solo Leveling.... Ok.
Yo loving it always with my boy ed coming in, probably try to read or watch ''The Boys'' you'd fucking love it, appreciate the content always!
The baby is based off the southeast child vendors. Iykyk.
Raya is a kids movie, that's why it moves so fast. Kids don't have the attention span.
The baby thing was weird though, but it's so disney can make toys and possibly a spin off.
Invincible is just one of the best series!
Zack Snyder wrote an overview for the next 2 Justice League he had planned
I would like to know what type of representation do you want to have Asian progression for America in shows and film.
Ratatouille is Pixar, not Disney Animations... Pixar does their research and presentation way better
ngl, i watched justice league in theaters… i didn’t know ray fisher’s character was cyborg until the final battle where i think he said “booyah” :/// and i watched teen titans religiously as a kid so joss whedon is fr a criminal lol…
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let’s not even get into his racism/sexism evident in the Marvel films he was apart of
glad i wasn’t the only one who disliked raya😭😭my friends made me feel like i was disrespecting us southeast asians lmaooo bt nah it was just trash💀😭
also speaking of kung fu movies, can you guys do a reaction to ip man 4? I have a feeling ya are going to hate it and that'd be content xD but ofc if ya like it then that's cool too
I wonder what's everyone's take on "Wish Dragon" on Netflix. I loved it.
Yayyy a movie episode!!! My favorite!
Lmao David it’s joss not josh Whedon
We really need a tv show for Raya
Always on the dot thrusday and Sundays
The only reason why I think someone could say Raya was in the "wrong" was because she only wanted to put the gem back together for "selfish" reasons: getting her Ba back. But all of her actions and distrust are still valid. What'd people expect when a 12 year old essentially has to navigate jungle and hostile tribes all by herself lol.
…Am I the only who liked Donatello and his staff 😕
Really? I really enjoyed Raya, didn't catch any of the audio / video/ cultural / continuity things you talked about. Better than Soul. Not as good as Coco.
#restorethesnyderverse baby!!!!
You guys should review the boys tv show, its a a superhero series about if superheroes are dicks and had no empathy and were on a power trip
I so glad someone talk about rayla evil character girl should be one who should ask for forgiveness and trusts is not awkard know cause didn’t Mariel work on rayla she working from home.