I just did a video on my 2 weeks ago lik 5min vid, it's 195K-A 2-3/4 12 gauge C lect a choke mines ported at the front too. Mine has a different safety then yours as well. I love the built on choke system it's awesome!!
That's great to hear! They aren't worth much but they still have a place as a Turkey and upland game bird gun, and being a family heirloom makes it all the cooler!
Anybody with an old shotgun should know it's limitations when it comes to steel. I always ask for 2 3/4 lead, and I stress to the clerk that it cannot be steel, or it'll turn my gun into a daisy.
I have the same gun in 16ga. except it is a Revelation made for Western Auto. It has full choke barrel. It also has the brass pin through the stock, the trigger guard is steel. Mossberg used plastic and Bakelite trigger guards on a lot of their guns. I received mine for my twelfth birthday, I had used a Mossberg 410 bolt action once and I liked the fact that they were different and not a lot of people used them, preferring pump or auto loaders. The wood on it has a really nice grain and a reddish brown color. If I do not shoot it often when I do take it out the bolt hangs. It just takes some gun oil, cycle it a few times and fire about three or four rounds and then it is slick and fast again. I used mine for rabbit,squirrel, and dove hunting. The model is a 316B.
@@TXODM Being able to pull out the bolt by simply holding down the trigger like a Mosin Nagant was actually the biggest appeal for me. That allows me to throw it into any chepo wallmart guncase without bringing any special tools. Though not being able to put the gun on safe when the bolt is uncocked (at least on my 195, dont own a 395) is an inexcusable design flaw I will admit.
@@pinkhead6857890 understood. I just got a 695 slug gun I was going to use to continue to develop my poor man's elephant gun rounds in, but I don't think this bolt handle only lock is a strong enough design for my goals. I'll probably sell or trade and get a savage 212 that has locking lugs. I'm aiming for consistent 3000fps.
@@TXODM Poor mans elephant gun? You'd probably know better than me if this sounds too stupid/dangerous to work, but couldnt any $100 20 gauge single shot from a pawn shop become one of those if you machined some brass barstock to the size of a 3" shell for some 61.55 caliber rifle cartridges?
@@pinkhead6857890 yes and no. Problem is that cartridge. Would weigh too much to get up to the velocity needed while have safe case pressure. Shotguns are only rated for around 13000 psi. Increase the wight to much and the pressure it would. Take to move it will be unsefe in a regular shotgun
I have 1 perfect no cracks either 150 is what I saw for value. I'd never sell it for that but you nailed the gpa part mine is mint. I couldn't figure out how to pull my bolt thank for real your vid popped up first
Thanks! Ya I like the oddball guns. We haven't been active this year but here soon I'll be putting out more videos and concentrating more on the gun reviews.
One reason these chokes might not be popular today is because if you have everything in one choke then there’s no money to be made almost everything made today is made to make money so if you have everything in one choke then there’s no money to be made by selling you additional chokes. most guns now when you buy one with a removable choke in it and you have to buy all the other chokes if you want a different shot patterns, Therefore companies are making more money. Back when these guns were made you have to remember they were mostly sold in hardware stores so when most people bought these, they were sold as tools and they were offered with everything you would need in one package and also made them last a lot longer than most of what’s offered today.
what did you do about that crack between the magazine release and the trigger guard? I just picked one of these up today and it looks like that split ran backwards on the stock towards the bolt and whoever previous owner was had glued to repair. I'm looking all over online for a replacement stock, but no luck. Any thoughts on options?
Ya to be honest wood glue or gorilla glue is the best you can do. Spread the crack as wide as possible, fill it with the glue, wipe off the Access with a wet rag and clamp it and let it fully cure. I need to repair another section on mine
Basically I pulled it open a little by flexing the stock and pressed wood glue down in the crack with my finger and clamped it shot. Its really about the only thing you can do with that kind of crack.
There’s a company in Minnesota that makes a really good synthetic stock that has a built-in rubber recoil pad and a better shape than the Monte Carlo style wood stock, I put it on mine I have the same exact done. Do any of you guys re-load for the gun?
You know I was on toaster broker last night and had my eye on a really nice home defense toaster. Has a tactical hotdog toaster as well. I'ma see what the auction dose before bidding.
@@User_Brandon oh man it's been a while since I took mine apart. I want to say it's 2 parts and the bolt unscrews allowing you to access the striker/firing pin but I might be think of some of my other bolt gind
@@TXODM I thought it was that too but I can’t seem to figure out how to do it, it’s obviously uncocked when it’s out but what else do you do to unscrew it?
When this particular shotgun was made the EPA didn't outlaw lead shot for waterfowl hunting yet. Because of that Mossberg didn't design the C-lect choke to handle steel shot. If you try and use regular steel shot through it you will likely blow the end of the barral off. You can however use it with solid copper and bersmith shot as well as some hard to find copper plated soft steel shot.
@@louislombardelli1691 but was it steel shot And then the choke adjusted past cylinder bore? When I got into duck hunting I did months of research asking various forums and groups and even email Mossberg to get technical data to make sure it was safe to fire steel. All the replies I got on the shotgun forums told me that steel was not safe to use. When someone from the technical team at Mossberg replied they said it would only be safe to use steel shot if the choke was adjusted to cylinder bore any tighter and it risked the barrel failing at the choke.
I am glad I read the comments. Granted I don’t hunt, but I do own a Mossberg 190 16gauge that has the C-Lect choke on it. I’ve never owned a gun like this before so I’m always researching it. Haven’t found a lot compared to other gun stats. And almost nothing about the C-Lect choke design. Which is nuts because aside from not being able to handle steel shot it’s a fantastic design. I’ve always been cautious when choosing my ammo for this gun. And it was mostly because I didn’t know when it could handle. And I switch between 00buck and slug. But good to know that if I run a slug through it, make sure the choke is opened all the way.
It is a strong action with two lugs. Very safe. The Remington 870 has only one locking lug.
I just did a video on my 2 weeks ago lik 5min vid, it's 195K-A 2-3/4 12 gauge
C lect a choke mines ported at the front too. Mine has a different safety then yours as well. I love the built on choke system it's awesome!!
Had one of these in the 70's. Definitely shot 3in mags and slugs with it.
My aunt just gave me one that was my uncle's. Very helpful video.
That's great to hear! They aren't worth much but they still have a place as a Turkey and upland game bird gun, and being a family heirloom makes it all the cooler!
Anybody with an old shotgun should know it's limitations when it comes to steel. I always ask for 2 3/4 lead, and I stress to the clerk that it cannot be steel, or it'll turn my gun into a daisy.
Without choke, it wouldn't make any difference weather it is lead or steel ? Am I wrong ?
Great review I have the 20 gauge version I think it's the 165 DB great shooter
I have the same gun in 16ga. except it is a Revelation made for Western Auto. It has full choke barrel. It also has the brass pin through the stock, the trigger guard is steel. Mossberg used plastic and Bakelite trigger guards on a lot of their guns. I received mine for my twelfth birthday, I had used a Mossberg 410 bolt action once and I liked the fact that they were different and not a lot of people used them, preferring pump or auto loaders. The wood on it has a really nice grain and a reddish brown color. If I do not shoot it often when I do take it out the bolt hangs. It just takes some gun oil, cycle it a few times and fire about three or four rounds and then it is slick and fast again. I used mine for rabbit,squirrel, and dove hunting. The model is a 316B.
Literally the perfect shotgun. Not a single aspect of its design can be improved.
Actually there is one. I would love some locking lugs on the bolt instead of only the bolt being the lock
@@TXODM Being able to pull out the bolt by simply holding down the trigger like a Mosin Nagant was actually the biggest appeal for me. That allows me to throw it into any chepo wallmart guncase without bringing any special tools.
Though not being able to put the gun on safe when the bolt is uncocked (at least on my 195, dont own a 395) is an inexcusable design flaw I will admit.
@@pinkhead6857890 understood. I just got a 695 slug gun I was going to use to continue to develop my poor man's elephant gun rounds in, but I don't think this bolt handle only lock is a strong enough design for my goals. I'll probably sell or trade and get a savage 212 that has locking lugs. I'm aiming for consistent 3000fps.
@@TXODM Poor mans elephant gun? You'd probably know better than me if this sounds too stupid/dangerous to work, but couldnt any $100 20 gauge single shot from a pawn shop become one of those if you machined some brass barstock to the size of a 3" shell for some 61.55 caliber rifle cartridges?
@@pinkhead6857890 yes and no. Problem is that cartridge. Would weigh too much to get up to the velocity needed while have safe case pressure. Shotguns are only rated for around 13000 psi. Increase the wight to much and the pressure it would. Take to move it will be unsefe in a regular shotgun
I have 1 perfect no cracks either 150 is what I saw for value. I'd never sell it for that but you nailed the gpa part mine is mint. I couldn't figure out how to pull my bolt thank for real your vid popped up first
Thanks! Ya I like the oddball guns. We haven't been active this year but here soon I'll be putting out more videos and concentrating more on the gun reviews.
One reason these chokes might not be popular today is because if you have everything in one choke then there’s no money to be made almost everything made today is made to make money so if you have everything in one choke then there’s no money to be made by selling you additional chokes. most guns now when you buy one with a removable choke in it and you have to buy all the other chokes if you want a different shot patterns, Therefore companies are making more money. Back when these guns were made you have to remember they were mostly sold in hardware stores so when most people bought these, they were sold as tools and they were offered with everything you would need in one package and also made them last a lot longer than most of what’s offered today.
what did you do about that crack between the magazine release and the trigger guard? I just picked one of these up today and it looks like that split ran backwards on the stock towards the bolt and whoever previous owner was had glued to repair. I'm looking all over online for a replacement stock, but no luck. Any thoughts on options?
Ya to be honest wood glue or gorilla glue is the best you can do. Spread the crack as wide as possible, fill it with the glue, wipe off the Access with a wet rag and clamp it and let it fully cure. I need to repair another section on mine
Great information! Just picked one of these exact guns, a fixer upper, for $50.00. Mine has the same crack. How did you fix that?
Basically I pulled it open a little by flexing the stock and pressed wood glue down in the crack with my finger and clamped it shot. Its really about the only thing you can do with that kind of crack.
There’s a company in Minnesota that makes a really good synthetic stock that has a built-in rubber recoil pad and a better shape than the Monte Carlo style wood stock, I put it on mine I have the same exact done. Do any of you guys re-load for the gun?
I just killed two turkeys same hunt with this gun without the magazine had to reload from my pocket
one they called the goose gun had 36 inch barrel
Any toaster reviews?
You know I was on toaster broker last night and had my eye on a really nice home defense toaster. Has a tactical hotdog toaster as well. I'ma see what the auction dose before bidding.
Is this slugs only or can I do Bird shot in them?
You can shoot both from the choke fully closed but only if the slugs are foster slugs
I use mine as strictly a turkey gun, good for 40 yards with full choke and 3 inch mags
Peut on tirer de la slug avec ?
Yes you can shoot slugs in it just open the chole up a little
Hey man, do you know how to take the bolt apart?
Pull the trigger with the bolt back and it should come right out the back of the receiver
@@TXODM No it is out of the gun already. I meant take it apart as in dissassemble the bolt, it is out of the gun already
@@User_Brandon oh man it's been a while since I took mine apart. I want to say it's 2 parts and the bolt unscrews allowing you to access the striker/firing pin but I might be think of some of my other bolt gind
@@TXODM I thought it was that too but I can’t seem to figure out how to do it, it’s obviously uncocked when it’s out but what else do you do to unscrew it?
@@User_Brandon give me a few let me pull mine out of the safe and take a look at it
The end was better
Any body interested in buying mine? bought it off a buddy for $125. It needs a mag. Looks to be in pretty good condition.
I got one without the mag.....
Were are you located. .? Id buy. But i doubt we are in same country.
why cant you hunt water foul ?
When this particular shotgun was made the EPA didn't outlaw lead shot for waterfowl hunting yet. Because of that Mossberg didn't design the C-lect choke to handle steel shot. If you try and use regular steel shot through it you will likely blow the end of the barral off. You can however use it with solid copper and bersmith shot as well as some hard to find copper plated soft steel shot.
@@TXODM
i have put 1000's of 7.5 bird shot skeet shooting
@@louislombardelli1691 but was it steel shot And then the choke adjusted past cylinder bore? When I got into duck hunting I did months of research asking various forums and groups and even email Mossberg to get technical data to make sure it was safe to fire steel. All the replies I got on the shotgun forums told me that steel was not safe to use. When someone from the technical team at Mossberg replied they said it would only be safe to use steel shot if the choke was adjusted to cylinder bore any tighter and it risked the barrel failing at the choke.
Because duck hunting now requires steel shot, and these adjustable chokes can only handle lead!
I am glad I read the comments. Granted I don’t hunt, but I do own a Mossberg 190 16gauge that has the C-Lect choke on it. I’ve never owned a gun like this before so I’m always researching it. Haven’t found a lot compared to other gun stats. And almost nothing about the C-Lect choke design. Which is nuts because aside from not being able to handle steel shot it’s a fantastic design. I’ve always been cautious when choosing my ammo for this gun. And it was mostly because I didn’t know when it could handle. And I switch between 00buck and slug. But good to know that if I run a slug through it, make sure the choke is opened all the way.
They practically give these away because no one wants a bolt action shotgun.
That may be true however it's always good to have an extra shotgun laying around