There's something absolutely magical about the sound of those Strymon pedals. To my ears, this one's not even close. The Mooer is a quite capable reverb, surprisingly so in fact, but the Strymon is just amazing...
This is such a great segment imo. I like seeing the contrast. Different prices and qualities but that doesn't mean the cheaper does have its own character and it doesn't mean the more expensive will fit everyone's taste. This channel really came around quality wise captain.
In the Shimverb's defense, a lot of my gear choice comes down to budget in the end. I think the Shimverb sounds okay and would probably be sufficient for all but fulltime professional guitarists.
'David' hasnt done too bad until now. But the BlueSky is one of, if not the, best all around reverb pedals of all time. Also, they definitely have the correct man for this job. Clean, full, and beautiful playing as always Pete.
There's an obvious point were the Strymon leaves the Mooer behind, but hey-oh, Two more dials, One more toggle, One extra switch and stereo ins & outs, not to mentions a stack of dosh more. Bang for buck has to be Mooer because it's smaller, cheaper, easier to use and still covers off the most important aspects of what most guitarist need this effect for.
So I bought the Shimverb years ago after recording a record where we used mainly the Bluesky. I wanted to replicate That shimmer effect. In all honesty, I use the Shimverb all the time. Love it actually. Live it holds up. There's a certain character to it. I think a lot of people get a bit caught up on the fact that the price difference is so drastic. By all means this doesn't mean that the Mooer isnt as good as the Bigsky.
I really like all of the new segments to the Andertons channel, those moaning aren't forced to watch are they? Whereby if the content wasn't available those interested would be missing out. Pete has been great in all the videos I've seen so far. Great player.
+giggs102 to that end I usually scroll down the page and read some comments (some of them are quite entertaining, you know) and that gives me the opportunity to listen without bias or prejudice. the downside is then I don't know which pedal is on.
@@JulioJustiniano build quality and sound quality are both important, one can't really be demoed in a video like this. If the mooer breaks within a year and the bluesky is still going after 5 years then it's obvious where the price difference is.
The actual "reverbs" at play here aren't terribly far apart (sans a few funky artifacts in the Mooers shimmer). But the Strymon is absolutely miles ahead in preserving the actual guitar tone.
I feel like I've been guilty of ignoring reverb pedals. I always thought they were kind of pointless and that reverb wasn't really a desired effect. I just purchased my first reverb pedal last week and I absolutely love it. Both of these are great too but I think I'll go with the Blue Sky because of the extra options. Great video!!!
I have the mooer pedal, great demo, you showed a few good settings i had not thought about, sometimes we think bigger is better, sometimes true sometimes not, i believe use what you have and can afford to the best of your ability, thanks for your time with the demo
I gotta be honest. I put on some headphones and listened to this while getting ready to head out for class. I forgot you were comparing 2 different pedals and heard the same tome throughout the whole video. It was only when I watched you switch back and forth through pedals again that I started hearing a difference
The problem with the Mooer Shimmer is that it shimmers in 5ths and not in octaves. Whilst it can work really well for some things, octave shimmer is just so much more useful.
hi,.jushwing,. which cheap reverb pedal ,as the shimverb here,. would you,. or anyone who reads this,. recommend that does shimmer in octaves? thanxs..
@@alejandrolerman This fx should be always in 8ths, octaves. This reverb (Mooer) is great but the shimmer is trash. If you look for a cheap and small pedal this could be the one, but there are others with same size and as good as this one or much better with other sets and not this garbage shimmer.
Love the "David vs Goliath" series... To be honest, in a live situation, 99% will not know you spent £200 on a single pedal... or £200 on a pedalboard full of £30 Tone City pedals! Once that arse of a bass player starts and the drummer is bashing the crap out of the drums.... ;-)
for my ears, the shimverb does mess up a lot with the guitar tone I own the shimverb and I think that it's very hard to get good sounds from it, there are settings that just sound crappy, but I can still find some sweet spots, maybe on flat settings
+craig prentice Or Squier Tele/Strat/Jaguar/Jazzmaster vs Fender. Or various 335-type (Guild Starfire, Ibanez AF-series, Epi Dot, Fret King Elise) against Pete's 335. Or Epi 339 vs Gibby vs Taylor T5z? Or various single-cut (Ibanez, Schecter, ESP/LTD) vs The Real Thing? Or Epi 175 vs Gibby. Or Epi WildKat vs Gibby Midtown (though that's P90 vs Humbucker, but similar construction). Or Epi Casino vs Gibson 330. Or SGs etc etc. Yeah, Andertons doesn't stock all these, just suggestions.
+craig prentice We decided not to do guitars in David & Goliath because the feel & build quality is harder to get across on TH-cam & its subjective too. We're just going to stick to pedals on D vs G for now! Cheers.
Thanks so much for another great episode of D vs. G! I do prefer the Strymon, which produces tones that sound more complex. Also, its shimmer sounded less metallic to me. Suggestion: How about a Battle of the Wah-Wahs? Keep up the great work, man!
Isnt this Mooer Shimverb the same as the Rowin Ocean Verb or the Toms line Ocean Verb ? They have the same knobs: Mix, Tone and Decay. And they have the same settings Room, Spring and Shimmer.
I was going to post the same comment on here. You beat me to it. Great videos and comparisons. The Chappers and Captain are mighty entertaining but I find myself preferring this style as it gets to the tinkering and playing quickly without commentary. I like the non biased approach too. Very well done, Pete!
Brave attempt Pete. The Strymon is more than a pedal, it's an artists palette. I use an old LXP15 for that sort of stuff, the 5 assignable pedal inputs are great fun. Thanks, Kev
The Strymon reverbs and the Neuenaber Wet reverb are on a level above everyone else. They have some special magic going on that gives them this gorgeous lush other worldly sound which is most of all musical and not metallic and thin sounding like cheaper reverbs. My feeling has always been that reverb is the one effect you should never cheap out on. Top class reverbs are just SO much better than cheaper ones that it's very noticeable.
I was really hoping the Shimverb could keep up so i dont have to spend over $300 on a pedal but theres just something about that Strymon sound, so heavenly
Another good example of how true spring reverb is it's own thing that needs a real spring. It's laughable how crappy that digital units emulate the spring thing. Aside from that, both of these delays are comparable to my ears. I closed my eyes and was often surprised that I guessed wrong for which one was on. The reality is that the same ambience comes through for both pedals, i.e. a shimmery, swelling type of reverb. Good demo, and I really like this series.
I like Pete's playing style for this kind of demo with any equipment. You get a good range of soft and gentle up through hard enough to drive the equipment. In may cases to much shredding will give the wrong opinion of the equipment. I will admit if the equipment is to push the system to the limit then Shredders are the Demo folks for that gear. Great demo Pete, How about using an A B switch for the future on these kind of demos please.
I would suggest leaving the camera on the pedals always on the screen, in a small square at the corner or something like that. Everytime it shows the pedals (at least in the beginning, as I have not finished watching the whole video yet), I have to pause the video to see the exact settings, because it's too fast. Please, either focus mainly in the pedals view or make it possible to see the pedals continuously throughout the video. Other than that, great videos and series!
Compared to the Strymon Bluesky the MOOER is missing a lot obviously, but just listening to the MOOER by its self. It really isn't a bad pedal very nice, and for the price! Not too shabby!
The Mooer was supplied new without any operating or safety instructions. There was no power supply provided with the product. Therefore, unless you have a pedal board with multi supply system or a spare psu lying around of the correct type then you have to locate and purchase a psu to be able to use the product. This increases the cost and makes the pedal less cost effective. This also raises the question whether the device is fit for purpose and whether the description states clearly that no psu is supplied.
Strymon Blue Sky wins hands down. What I would like to see are shoot outs between the same price points such as Eventide and Strymon. Keep up the good work!
Presets man, all about the presets. I have a Bigsky which I absolutely love for the sound and the amount of presets I can have. I'm currently using about 6 out of the 100+ I can set lol.
Some heavenly sounds by both pedals and of course very pleasant and appropriate playing by Pete. The strymon does sound better especially on the shimmer mode, where the mooer sounds like its modulating a bit.
Should've really compared the Mooer Shimverb Pro, which is still super affordable, but at least lets you choose the pitch shift intervals on the shimmer
Tell you what I think? I think I could listen to you mess around with reverbs for hours. The Bluesky definitely was streets ahead of the Mooer in every way.
i have a Bigsky at home and had a Bluesky ; i must admit thoose pedal kill the game in matter of reverb ; but honestly for the price and in an additionnal mini pedal board ; i'm really considering getting a a Shimverb
Great comparison.. I would love to see JRAD The Dude vs. Mooer Rumble Drive, and another comparison between Strymon Flint vs. Mooer Trelicopter. Thanks!
All these Strymon vs _whatever_ videos can't get past the sheer beauty of the strymon. At times it sounds like Vangelis is playing backing keyboards.David sounds quite good on some settings all the same.
My Bluesky stopped working just because I put it in a different make of power supply, so beware only use a Strymon power supply to be on the safe side, I think the pedals power side has gone and might cost a small fortune to fix in the UK.
This is brilliant. I´m looking for Shimmer reverb at the moment and it seems to me that tiny little Mooer is actually better at this particular task. Strymon is fantastic, but it´s attack is not very musical. I would totally go over Mooer and focus on something more expensive were it not for this video.
As someone who does a lot of ambient guitar, I would have to choose the Strymon. It does a much better job at getting a really wet and washy reverb. Plus I though the shimmer on the Strymon sounded much better.
For me with the name shimverb, the selling point of this reverb is the shimmer. But unfortunately the shimmer is the weakest point. From what i know shimmer supposed to be a rvrb with +1 octave up pitch. But on the shimverb, it sounds like its on the 5th pitch to me
I think where the mooer fatally falls down is on the spring, which to my ear sounds very unnatural to me. The bluesky for me pulls out the goods here to be quite representative of actual spring units. The fifth thing on the Mooer shimmer is unfortunately painful to say the least.
nnnownow Agreed. I bought one a while ago purely to use with a small practice amp, which I got at the same time, that didn't have reverb. I fell victim to the old "it sounded alright in the shop" syndrome. After a while the flaws in the spring emulation began to bug me. Once I started to notice the way it affected the dry through tone too I had to replace it, with a HOF mini. The room is much better, I'm just not a fan of room reverb, and the shimmer is totally fine for occasional use.
Is there somewhere where you guys compare the bluesky with, say, a neunaber immerse or a digitech polara? Earthquaker devices afterneath? They're all digital spacey reverby thingies. I think that would be cool.
Normally these things are pretty close and the shimverb doesn't sound "bad" but Strymon really just are top notch.. Would love to see the hall of fame reverb vs the blue or big sky though
The true integrity of the Shimverb, lies within how you use it. I use it to add ambience to my Mooer Reecho. I don't need an expensive verb for that. Placed after the Reecho is actually quite pleasing and gets the job done. Have since been a fan of the Mooer pedals. There's another demo on TH-cam that specifically uses Mooer pedals and I think you'd be hard pressed to tell whether the guitarist is using Mooer vs expensive pedals.
hello david.obviously the strymon was more thee dimentional more open sounding,the mooer for the money performed very well,it had to my ears a slight colouration in the upper frequences.still a very good review.
To be fair Mooer do a two switch reverb that is a much closer match for a comparison. A couple of mins Googling and what I think was called the Skyverb pro has had a name change to reverie reverb. I dunno if it's any good but its much closer in features to the Strymon and less than half the price.
In the room setting there was something about the Mooer that I loved over the Bluesky just cant figure out what it is. Maybe the darker reverb? I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW YOUR CLEAN SETTINGS ON YOUR AMP MAN!!!!
Can the strymon be set up in such a way so as to mute the guitar sound and just let the reverb sound flowing. If not, is there any other pedal that can do the job?
I have way too many reverb pedals, and my new go to is the strymon. But the best shimmer I've ever had was on my 1st gen line 6 verbzilla. Alas, they are gone the way of the dodo. The had other issues that keep me from looking for another one.
I bought the blue sky and put it up for sale after 24 hours, could not understand the hype, it's a nice build but the sound is completely and utterly middle of the road, have a hof now and find it more versatile and over all usable
I use the Mooer just as a slight reverb as my amp doesn't have it and sounds fine for general playing. It's only when you turn everything up it lets itself down. Plus with the size of I have it velco'd to the back ledge of my amp,running through fx loop so doesn't take up any space on small pedal board. I only use a couple of effects so does me fine. The Strymon wins though for versatility and sounds.
I've had the mooer for about a year and a bit now, and I don't like it too much. It colors the sound way too much, rather than just adding reverb. thinking about getting a tc hall of fame or a trinity as a replacement
The Strymon sounds better must be the anti aliasing filter on the output or the fact it is using 4096 bins rather than 512 bins for the FFT computations.
I thought the BlueSky was better (as it seems most of the other viewers did as well, based on the comments) but I thought the Shimverb was very respectable, and when you look at the difference in price, to me, the Shimverb is clearly the better value. Not all of are able or want to invest hundreds (if not thousands) of dollars into a pedal collection, and being able to get a good sound out of a pedal that's around $100 (or less on the used market) -- compared to over $300 for the BlueSky -- can make it a good choice for a player trying not to break the bank.
I have the shimverb and it eats a noticeable amount of tone when its engaged (through the loop, haven't really tried it in front) Ive had the same problem on 3 different amps now. I'd stay away from it personally
There's something absolutely magical about the sound of those Strymon pedals. To my ears, this one's not even close. The Mooer is a quite capable reverb, surprisingly so in fact, but the Strymon is just amazing...
This is such a great segment imo. I like seeing the contrast.
Different prices and qualities but that doesn't mean the cheaper does have its own character and it doesn't mean the more expensive will fit everyone's taste.
This channel really came around quality wise captain.
In the Shimverb's defense, a lot of my gear choice comes down to budget in the end. I think the Shimverb sounds okay and would probably be sufficient for all but fulltime professional guitarists.
'David' hasnt done too bad until now. But the BlueSky is one of, if not the, best all around reverb pedals of all time. Also, they definitely have the correct man for this job. Clean, full, and beautiful playing as always Pete.
Empress Reverb is far superior than any other reverb I know. But yeah, BlueSky is too good.
Ohw, make him a cake!
I like these videos and this is really the first one where cheaper does actually get blown away by the more expensive.
There's an obvious point were the Strymon leaves the Mooer behind, but hey-oh, Two more dials, One more toggle, One extra switch and stereo ins & outs, not to mentions a stack of dosh more. Bang for buck has to be Mooer because it's smaller, cheaper, easier to use and still covers off the most important aspects of what most guitarist need this effect for.
So I bought the Shimverb years ago after recording a record where we used mainly the Bluesky. I wanted to replicate That shimmer effect.
In all honesty, I use the Shimverb all the time. Love it actually. Live it holds up. There's a certain character to it. I think a lot of people get a bit caught up on the fact that the price difference is so drastic. By all means this doesn't mean that the Mooer isnt as good as the Bigsky.
Nice demo, just got the Shimverb and it is not bad at all!
I really like all of the new segments to the Andertons channel, those moaning aren't forced to watch are they? Whereby if the content wasn't available those interested would be missing out. Pete has been great in all the videos I've seen so far. Great player.
Two words PRICE DIFFERENCE!!!
the shim verb is great for it's price
pricet3111 Mooer is a Chinese pirate.
@@greg6L6GCWell Pete is a Danish one
should do a blind test portion as well, most of us hear with our eyes.....
+giggs102 to that end I usually scroll down the page and read some comments (some of them are quite entertaining, you know) and that gives me the opportunity to listen without bias or prejudice. the downside is then I don't know which pedal is on.
Funny im doing that right now!
I am listening while I'm working and frankly I didn't hear much difference, not enough to justify the price difference at least.
@@JulioJustiniano build quality and sound quality are both important, one can't really be demoed in a video like this. If the mooer breaks within a year and the bluesky is still going after 5 years then it's obvious where the price difference is.
The actual "reverbs" at play here aren't terribly far apart (sans a few funky artifacts in the Mooers shimmer). But the Strymon is absolutely miles ahead in preserving the actual guitar tone.
I feel like I've been guilty of ignoring reverb pedals. I always thought they were kind of pointless and that reverb wasn't really a desired effect. I just purchased my first reverb pedal last week and I absolutely love it. Both of these are great too but I think I'll go with the Blue Sky because of the extra options. Great video!!!
I have the mooer pedal, great demo, you showed a few good settings i had not thought about, sometimes we think bigger is better, sometimes true sometimes not, i believe use what you have and can afford to the best of your ability, thanks for your time with the demo
Great playing Pete it's nice to have something different than metal all the time as much as I like Rob and the Captain
variety is the spice of life.
I gotta be honest. I put on some headphones and listened to this while getting ready to head out for class. I forgot you were comparing 2 different pedals and heard the same tome throughout the whole video. It was only when I watched you switch back and forth through pedals again that I started hearing a difference
I definitely did NOT hear any recognisable spy theme tunes or film noir riffs in this public service broadcast :-)
The problem with the Mooer Shimmer is that it shimmers in 5ths and not in octaves. Whilst it can work really well for some things, octave shimmer is just so much more useful.
I agree with this. Great observation.
hi,.jushwing,. which cheap reverb pedal ,as the shimverb here,. would you,. or anyone who reads this,. recommend that does shimmer in octaves? thanxs..
@@alejandrolerman This fx should be always in 8ths, octaves.
This reverb (Mooer) is great but the shimmer is trash. If you look for a cheap and small pedal this could be the one, but there are others with same size and as good as this one or much better with other sets and not this garbage shimmer.
Is there another shim like the canyon pedal
The Jhs Octave Reverb has 8th shimmer (up, down, and simultaneous), and it's inexpensive
Love the "David vs Goliath" series... To be honest, in a live situation, 99% will not know you spent £200 on a single pedal... or £200 on a pedalboard full of £30 Tone City pedals! Once that arse of a bass player starts and the drummer is bashing the crap out of the drums.... ;-)
haha.. your funny man
@@esticaandres3169 You think? HAHAHA You can tell the difference in the mix? Nah, of course not!
for my ears, the shimverb does mess up a lot with the guitar tone
I own the shimverb and I think that it's very hard to get good sounds from it, there are settings that just sound crappy, but I can still find some sweet spots, maybe on flat settings
How about some "David Vs Goliath" in guitars? Like an Epiphone Les Paul Standard Vs a Gibson Historic Les Paul?
+craig prentice Or Squier Tele/Strat/Jaguar/Jazzmaster vs Fender. Or various 335-type (Guild Starfire, Ibanez AF-series, Epi Dot, Fret King Elise) against Pete's 335. Or Epi 339 vs Gibby vs Taylor T5z? Or various single-cut (Ibanez, Schecter, ESP/LTD) vs The Real Thing? Or Epi 175 vs Gibby. Or Epi WildKat vs Gibby Midtown (though that's P90 vs Humbucker, but similar construction). Or Epi Casino vs Gibson 330. Or SGs etc etc. Yeah, Andertons doesn't stock all these, just suggestions.
+Dux Erraticus Aye, that's the idea. I only used the Gibson/Epiphone as an example. There's plenty options to choose from out there
+craig prentice Are you perhaps a fellow Scot? I live within view of the Ailsa, Craig...
+Dux Erraticus haha, I'm guessing my "aye" gave that game away. You'll be down near Girvan then. I'm a Weegie
+craig prentice We decided not to do guitars in David & Goliath because the feel & build quality is harder to get across on TH-cam & its subjective too. We're just going to stick to pedals on D vs G for now! Cheers.
Thanks so much for another great episode of D vs. G! I do prefer the Strymon, which produces tones that sound more complex. Also, its shimmer sounded less metallic to me. Suggestion: How about a Battle of the Wah-Wahs? Keep up the great work, man!
Isnt this Mooer Shimverb the same as the Rowin Ocean Verb or the Toms line Ocean Verb ? They have the same knobs: Mix, Tone and Decay. And they have the same settings Room, Spring and Shimmer.
I really love the tone of the bluesky. Goliath absolutely kills this poor David.
I was going to post the same comment on here. You beat me to it. Great videos and comparisons. The Chappers and Captain are mighty entertaining but I find myself preferring this style as it gets to the tinkering and playing quickly without commentary. I like the non biased approach too. Very well done, Pete!
Great demo Pete as usual keep em coming!
Brave attempt Pete. The Strymon is more than a pedal, it's an artists palette. I use an old LXP15 for that sort of stuff, the 5 assignable pedal inputs are great fun. Thanks, Kev
Guitar sounds phenomenal.
The Strymon reverbs and the Neuenaber Wet reverb are on a level above everyone else. They have some special magic going on that gives them this gorgeous lush other worldly sound which is most of all musical and not metallic and thin sounding like cheaper reverbs. My feeling has always been that reverb is the one effect you should never cheap out on. Top class reverbs are just SO much better than cheaper ones that it's very noticeable.
Revelation may be just as good as the Strymon.
The best thing about the Blue Sky is that, because of it's extremely high quality analog pass through, it doesn't mess the actual guitar tone at all.
I was really hoping the Shimverb could keep up so i dont have to spend over $300 on a pedal but theres just something about that Strymon sound, so heavenly
If you haven't bought it, yet, you should definitely check out the Mercury 7 reverb. That shit is mind blowingly beautiful!
A lot of these videos have been quite close, this one wasn't haha
Ray Syed but for home use the slim verb at $27 used fit the bill just fine for me
Yes it was ,,,very close
Another good example of how true spring reverb is it's own thing that needs a real spring. It's laughable how crappy that digital units emulate the spring thing. Aside from that, both of these delays are comparable to my ears. I closed my eyes and was often surprised that I guessed wrong for which one was on. The reality is that the same ambience comes through for both pedals, i.e. a shimmery, swelling type of reverb. Good demo, and I really like this series.
I'd like to see a demo of the Tubemeister 5 going through the Two Tone Torpedo Live. Please... with pedals in front of the amp and everything..
Blue for sure. Mooer was often shrill sounding while the blue sky was always smooth as butter.
I like Pete's playing style for this kind of demo with any equipment. You get a good range of soft and gentle up through hard enough to drive the equipment. In may cases to much shredding will give the wrong opinion of the equipment. I will admit if the equipment is to push the system to the limit then Shredders are the Demo folks for that gear. Great demo Pete, How about using an A B switch for the future on these kind of demos please.
Mooer pitch shifter or octave vs the pog or pitchfork
Or sub n up
dont try mooer pitch shifter !!!
horrible octaver !!!
the mooer tender octave is great actually!
+1 The tender octaver is amazing but it's now been discontinued because of a lawsuit with POG. That's how you know it's good! lol
You can still get it on amazon in Germany
The Strymon when used in stereo mode defines “lushness” - great pedal.
I feel like i'm being taken to heaven with that BlueSky lol, damn if it isn't gonna be the crowning piece on my little board
I would suggest leaving the camera on the pedals always on the screen, in a small square at the corner or something like that. Everytime it shows the pedals (at least in the beginning, as I have not finished watching the whole video yet), I have to pause the video to see the exact settings, because it's too fast. Please, either focus mainly in the pedals view or make it possible to see the pedals continuously throughout the video.
Other than that, great videos and series!
Nothing beats the Strymon Pedals. But you have to pay a lot for that fact^^ =P
+Lukas K they're worth every penny, though. :)
Compared to the Strymon Bluesky the MOOER is missing a lot obviously, but just listening to the MOOER by its self. It really isn't a bad pedal very nice, and for the price! Not too shabby!
The Mooer was supplied new without any operating or safety instructions. There was no power supply provided with the product. Therefore, unless you have a pedal board with multi supply system or a spare psu lying around of the correct type then you have to locate and purchase a psu to be able to use the product. This increases the cost and makes the pedal less cost effective. This also raises the question whether the device is fit for purpose and whether the description states clearly that no psu is supplied.
Strymon Blue Sky wins hands down. What I would like to see are shoot outs between the same price points such as Eventide and Strymon. Keep up the good work!
it would really be great to get your opinion of the pedals at the end.
I want more of Peter in my life... Is he on Spotify?
Presets man, all about the presets. I have a Bigsky which I absolutely love for the sound and the amount of presets I can have. I'm currently using about 6 out of the 100+ I can set lol.
Some heavenly sounds by both pedals and of course very pleasant and appropriate playing by Pete. The strymon does sound better especially on the shimmer mode, where the mooer sounds like its modulating a bit.
I’ll get the mooer - mainly because I need a basic reverb. If I want a better shimmer, I’ll just use my HOG2.
ok strymon advert. care to max the settings on mooer's shimmer?
Should've really compared the Mooer Shimverb Pro, which is still super affordable, but at least lets you choose the pitch shift intervals on the shimmer
Tell you what I think?
I think I could listen to you mess around with reverbs for hours.
The Bluesky definitely was streets ahead of the Mooer in every way.
+Timathus Stop trying to coin the phrase, "streets ahead".
+UniqueSquared it was a phrase coined long before I used it.
Timathus Good point. Pierce Hawthorne deserves credit for that.
+UniqueSquared Haha! Indeed.
britishisms.wordpress.com/2012/02/01/streets-ahead/
^^^In case you're curious of it's origin.
Timathus Oh damn, it's a real thing? Hahaha, had no idea! Thanks for making me a tad bit smarter today!
your playing is great here! I think that the shimverb does the job pretty well
Nice review presentation. However there's really no comparison as the Strymon has an octave outputs and the Moor does a fifth.
i have a Bigsky at home and had a Bluesky ; i must admit thoose pedal kill the game in matter of reverb ; but honestly for the price and in an additionnal mini pedal board ; i'm really considering getting a a Shimverb
Great comparison.. I would love to see JRAD The Dude vs. Mooer Rumble Drive, and another comparison between Strymon Flint vs. Mooer Trelicopter. Thanks!
All these Strymon vs _whatever_ videos can't get past the sheer beauty of the strymon. At times it sounds like Vangelis is playing backing keyboards.David sounds quite good on some settings all the same.
Great review!
There are indeed some tonal differences. Blue surely sounds full n warm. No doubt about that... But shim can well do the job
Love this series!
Mine is noisy when activated and is warm even when not used. Is that defective?
My Bluesky stopped working just because I put it in a different make of power supply, so beware only use a Strymon power supply to be on the safe side, I think the pedals power side has gone and might cost a small fortune to fix in the UK.
I'm getting the mooer right now, nice video btw
This is brilliant. I´m looking for Shimmer reverb at the moment and it seems to me that tiny little Mooer is actually better at this particular task. Strymon is fantastic, but it´s attack is not very musical. I would totally go over Mooer and focus on something more expensive were it not for this video.
As someone who does a lot of ambient guitar, I would have to choose the Strymon. It does a much better job at getting a really wet and washy reverb. Plus I though the shimmer on the Strymon sounded much better.
awesome! congrats for the Channel
For me with the name shimverb, the selling point of this reverb is the shimmer. But unfortunately the shimmer is the weakest point. From what i know shimmer supposed to be a rvrb with +1 octave up pitch. But on the shimverb, it sounds like its on the 5th pitch to me
I think where the mooer fatally falls down is on the spring, which to my ear sounds very unnatural to me. The bluesky for me pulls out the goods here to be quite representative of actual spring units. The fifth thing on the Mooer shimmer is unfortunately painful to say the least.
nnnownow Agreed. I bought one a while ago purely to use with a small practice amp, which I got at the same time, that didn't have reverb. I fell victim to the old "it sounded alright in the shop" syndrome. After a while the flaws in the spring emulation began to bug me. Once I started to notice the way it affected the dry through tone too I had to replace it, with a HOF mini. The room is much better, I'm just not a fan of room reverb, and the shimmer is totally fine for occasional use.
Is there somewhere where you guys compare the bluesky with, say, a neunaber immerse or a digitech polara? Earthquaker devices afterneath? They're all digital spacey reverby thingies. I think that would be cool.
How about the mooer green mile against tc electronic mojomojo pedal
Normally these things are pretty close and the shimverb doesn't sound "bad" but Strymon really just are top notch.. Would love to see the hall of fame reverb vs the blue or big sky though
The true integrity of the Shimverb, lies within how you use it. I use it to add ambience to my Mooer Reecho. I don't need an expensive verb for that. Placed after the Reecho is actually quite pleasing and gets the job done. Have since been a fan of the Mooer pedals. There's another demo on TH-cam that specifically uses Mooer pedals and I think you'd be hard pressed to tell whether the guitarist is using Mooer vs expensive pedals.
hello david.obviously the strymon was more thee dimentional more open sounding,the mooer for the money performed very well,it had to my ears a slight colouration in the upper frequences.still a very good review.
Any recommendations for a quality verb for acoustic fingerstyle guys?
Is there a low cost alternative to the 5150 pedal?
To be fair Mooer do a two switch reverb that is a much closer match for a comparison. A couple of mins Googling and what I think was called the Skyverb pro has had a name change to reverie reverb. I dunno if it's any good but its much closer in features to the Strymon and less than half the price.
In the room setting there was something about the Mooer that I loved over the Bluesky just cant figure out what it is. Maybe the darker reverb? I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW YOUR CLEAN SETTINGS ON YOUR AMP MAN!!!!
Can the strymon be set up in such a way so as to mute the guitar sound and just let the reverb sound flowing. If not, is there any other pedal that can do the job?
Old comment, but yes. And the fender reverb pedal has a dry kill switch allowing it.
I have way too many reverb pedals, and my new go to is the strymon. But the best shimmer I've ever had was on my 1st gen line 6 verbzilla. Alas, they are gone the way of the dodo. The had other issues that keep me from looking for another one.
I bought the blue sky and put it up for sale after 24 hours, could not understand the hype, it's a nice build but the sound is completely and utterly middle of the road, have a hof now and find it more versatile and over all usable
I use the Mooer just as a slight reverb as my amp doesn't have it and sounds fine for general playing. It's only when you turn everything up it lets itself down. Plus with the size of I have it velco'd to the back ledge of my amp,running through fx loop so doesn't take up any space on small pedal board. I only use a couple of effects so does me fine. The Strymon wins though for versatility and sounds.
I tried that mooer with synth, it sucks.
I would like to know what Pete thought of both pedals as a player. Tone is subjective, but is a reverb pedal worth spending $299.00 USD on?
I get that cash register effect that intro for the song money on the dark side of the moon when you use the strymon. I Guess the shim actually cost.
please can you do a comparison between the anlogue man king of tone overdrive vs tone city king of blues/ other more affordable and avaible overdrive?
Damn the strymon really smashed the mooer to bits in this video
Mooer will easily fit on pedalboard as well on budget hahaha!
How do the Mooer pedals compare to the Tone City ones? Are they the same price? And of course, the same sound, build quality, etc?
Sasmitha Waidyatilleke That's why this series are called "David and Goliath"
I don't mind the mooer until you get to the shimmer setting. it just fails there.
Nylon guitar work good?
In your comparison, there is almost not a dime's worth of difference from both. Your test is a real 'eye' and ear opener.
I like this kind of comparison, cheap vs expensive! You could do amps and guitars!
I've had the mooer for about a year and a bit now, and I don't like it too much. It colors the sound way too much, rather than just adding reverb. thinking about getting a tc hall of fame or a trinity as a replacement
When new david and goliath?
The Strymon sounds better must be the anti aliasing filter on the output or the fact it is using 4096 bins rather than 512 bins for the FFT computations.
I thought the BlueSky was better (as it seems most of the other viewers did as well, based on the comments) but I thought the Shimverb was very respectable, and when you look at the difference in price, to me, the Shimverb is clearly the better value. Not all of are able or want to invest hundreds (if not thousands) of dollars into a pedal collection, and being able to get a good sound out of a pedal that's around $100 (or less on the used market) -- compared to over $300 for the BlueSky -- can make it a good choice for a player trying not to break the bank.
were ne of those your own original songs??
how about comp pedals? like Joyo, Mooer, Caline from China vs Keeley, MXR, Boss? guess not huge differences, but still intriguing.
Sounds like the Mooer is quite a lot tone sucker. The bass frequencies are cut.
I have the shimverb and it eats a noticeable amount of tone when its engaged (through the loop, haven't really tried it in front) Ive had the same problem on 3 different amps now. I'd stay away from it personally
Check out the Mooer Funky Monkey pedal. Its a very useable auto wah for soloing. It's not a touch wah but does a very cool unique thing
how about basic big muff vs the JHS muffaletta?