Here's some things to ponder over: 1) Luxior turns a Planeswalker into a Creature 2) Myrkul turns dying Creatures into Enchantments that are no other types 3) Planeswalker cards that are no longer Planeswalkers still have Loyalty Abilities 4) Dying from lack of Loyalty is a State-based Action that only occurs with Planeswalkers, not Enchantments
@@timelliott9993 infinite abilitys while an enchantment and instant speed as card text is now an activated ability due to change of card type to enchantment ???
Do you still have to pay the mana cost of the card as an enchantment to use it each turn? my buddy tells me I do, but it doesn't make sense, so I'm looking for clarification.
I feel like an interesting interaction is between Myrkul and Bramble Sovereign. For two extra mana, you create a token copy of Myrkul who then can sacrifice its non-token self due to the legend rule, which means the token copy sees another non-token creature die, and can exile Myrkul to create an enchantment copy of him. Bramble Sovereign is also just a great creature to have as an enchantment anyway, and is my recommendation as a sleeper OP card for the deck.
I'm not sure that would be a good idea. You'd be exiling your commander for good, instead of returning it to the command zone. If someone removes the copy, you've screwed yourself.
@@nightshade3122 The commander goes to exile just for the state-based action to take effect, then you can decide to put it back into the command zone or keep it in exile. This means that you can have an enchantment token copy of Myrkul while at the same time having Myrkul in the command zone.
The very first (and only) self-designed card I've ever done was nearly identical to Myrkul in function, except it was Sultia and cared about self-mill. So I'm very excited to build this deck!
I’d consider putting birthing pod in the 4 mana slot still because you still need the extra 1 to activate it. Otherwise, it can be seen as a pretty big threat and make you the target even though you haven’t even activated it.
In my Murkyl deck, I just run Abzan good stuff. Constellation creatures, Platinum Angel, Op Agent, Kataki War's Wage, Magus of the Moat and Tabernacle, and of course, the Shadowmoor -1/-1 creatures (Druid - infinite green mana, Wretch - infinite discard, Medic - infinite damage prevention) just to name some.
Kaya the Inexorable is absolutely bonkers for Myrkul. Especially if you're running doubling season for the extra tokens. Drop Kaya, use her ult then every turn you can recast an exiled creature for free.
athreos also getting back your own creatures for some more tokens is just gravy! but yes I believe myrkul is getting ignored due to his mana value. honestly him being in green sorts that out in an instant. can't wait to build him : ).
That wouldn't work for the same reason Kaya doesn't: Both trigger and you can choose in which order. If Myrkull is first, you get the copy and then the card is exiled; then athreos' trigger won't find the card anymore and wiff (With kaya you at least still get a 1/1). If Athreos is first, Myrkull won't find the card anymore. So unless you mean that it's a backup for when you don't have your commander, that's more of an anti-synergy.
@@SourceOfViews ahh shuck! well thanks for clarifying. still think hes good in the deck but im glad I got to know before doing this at a table. Thanks!
@@AffinityForCommander I’m building it now and I’m going to make it mean . I know after playing it once I’ll be targeted the next time I bring it out .
So…funny that this just popped up. I too just built a Myrkul deck!! Mine’s…a little different than yours. And terrible. I love it. Crouching Tiger, Hidden Spider. I have all of the Hidden Spider variants and I attempt to win via animated enchantments that Myrkul can recycle should they die
Dumb question, but when a nontoken creature dies and there is a token copy that is an enchantment of it, can you still block or attack with them, even if they have power/toughness?
Gyre sage gets a +1/+1 counter for every creature that comes into play under your control while it's a Myrkul enchantment. Not as lucrative as Devoted Druid, but it's a good back up.
@@nightshade3122 my bad I went down a rabbit hole and couldn't remember where the rule was but here it is. 208.5. If a creature somehow has no value for its power, its power is 0. The same is true for toughness. Since its base of 0/0 cannot go up from +1/+1 counters then it will always trigger when a creature enters the field under your control.
Starfield of Nyx only animates YOUR enchantments (as long as you have five or more), and even brings them back from the graveyard to boot. By the way, both Starfield of Nyx and Opalescense have the added bonus of bringing your other nontoken enchantments back as tokens if Myrkul is around.
Here's some things to ponder over:
1) Luxior turns a Planeswalker into a Creature
2) Myrkul turns dying Creatures into Enchantments that are no other types
3) Planeswalker cards that are no longer Planeswalkers still have Loyalty Abilities
4) Dying from lack of Loyalty is a State-based Action that only occurs with Planeswalkers, not Enchantments
I love it! 😍
Would the new enchantment tokens that come in enter with 0 loyalty since entering with the specified loyalty seems like a planeswalker only rule?
@@cresty yes they come in with 0 loyalty
@@timelliott9993 infinite abilitys while an enchantment and instant speed as card text is now an activated ability due to change of card type to enchantment ???
Do you still have to pay the mana cost of the card as an enchantment to use it each turn? my buddy tells me I do, but it doesn't make sense, so I'm looking for clarification.
I feel like an interesting interaction is between Myrkul and Bramble Sovereign. For two extra mana, you create a token copy of Myrkul who then can sacrifice its non-token self due to the legend rule, which means the token copy sees another non-token creature die, and can exile Myrkul to create an enchantment copy of him. Bramble Sovereign is also just a great creature to have as an enchantment anyway, and is my recommendation as a sleeper OP card for the deck.
I'm not sure that would be a good idea. You'd be exiling your commander for good, instead of returning it to the command zone. If someone removes the copy, you've screwed yourself.
@@nightshade3122 The commander goes to exile just for the state-based action to take effect, then you can decide to put it back into the command zone or keep it in exile. This means that you can have an enchantment token copy of Myrkul while at the same time having Myrkul in the command zone.
@@calebelliott2629 Looked into the rulings, seems like you're right. I always thought it was a replacement effect
@@nightshade3122 It used to be, but the rule was altered so that this sort of interaction would work.
The very first (and only) self-designed card I've ever done was nearly identical to Myrkul in function, except it was Sultia and cared about self-mill. So I'm very excited to build this deck!
I do love a good sultai deck! 😉
This is both solid and fun, well done!
So glad you enjoyed it! 😁
Brewed the shit out of this deck and ordered so many cards. Glad to see a tech on it.
Hope it gave you some inspiration! 😁
I’d consider putting birthing pod in the 4 mana slot still because you still need the extra 1 to activate it. Otherwise, it can be seen as a pretty big threat and make you the target even though you haven’t even activated it.
A fair comment! 🤔
You guys are great! I really enjoy the deck tech videos! Please do more!
Thanks Peter! 😍
You can also use esika chariot to clone the enchanyment tokens
Great idea! 😃
thanks for reading this Alex
It was Martin who read this one, but I'll be sure to let him know you've been thinking of him! 😁
In my Murkyl deck, I just run Abzan good stuff. Constellation creatures, Platinum Angel, Op Agent, Kataki War's Wage, Magus of the Moat and Tabernacle, and of course, the Shadowmoor -1/-1 creatures (Druid - infinite green mana, Wretch - infinite discard, Medic - infinite damage prevention) just to name some.
He is such a versatile commander! 😁
Kaya the Inexorable is absolutely bonkers for Myrkul. Especially if you're running doubling season for the extra tokens. Drop Kaya, use her ult then every turn you can recast an exiled creature for free.
Nice idea! 😄
A cool idea I have for Myrkul is to include all of the Praetors that can go with Myrkul to help oppress your opponents while helping you
A great way to lose friends! 😆
@@AffinityForCommander 🤣
Platinum Angel and Fountain watch are pretty cool in the deck
Love it! 😁
Meren would be nice step in to have on the battle field for when the commander dies
Gotta love a bit of recursion! 😁
Off topic but can we one day get a deck tour of the decks you guys have in the background?:)
Sure! We have sooooo many! 😂
@@AffinityForCommander Woohoo!
wouldn't mind seeing how this preforms in a pod
You won't have to wait long, Alex is itching to test it out in a game! 😉
you read every comment huh? well did you know, that Despite having "Lord" in his name, Eladamri, Lord of Leaves does not have the creature type "lord"
He's an imposter! 😆
Pull from eternity on a iscochron septar can pull your stuff back out of the exile into your graveyard
Love it! 😍
I'm trying to do an enchantress deck in every tricolority. And Myrkul look hella fun.
What an interesting idea! 😄
athreos also getting back your own creatures for some more tokens is just gravy! but yes I believe myrkul is getting ignored due to his mana value. honestly him being in green sorts that out in an instant. can't wait to build him : ).
That wouldn't work for the same reason Kaya doesn't: Both trigger and you can choose in which order.
If Myrkull is first, you get the copy and then the card is exiled; then athreos' trigger won't find the card anymore and wiff (With kaya you at least still get a 1/1).
If Athreos is first, Myrkull won't find the card anymore.
So unless you mean that it's a backup for when you don't have your commander, that's more of an anti-synergy.
@@SourceOfViews ahh shuck! well thanks for clarifying. still think hes good in the deck but im glad I got to know before doing this at a table. Thanks!
Eldrazi definitely need to be in this deck outside of the other auto includes.
Definitely a way to make the deck meaner! 😂
@@AffinityForCommander I’m building it now and I’m going to make it mean . I know after playing it once I’ll be targeted the next time I bring it out .
So…funny that this just popped up. I too just built a Myrkul deck!!
Mine’s…a little different than yours. And terrible. I love it.
Crouching Tiger, Hidden Spider. I have all of the Hidden Spider variants and I attempt to win via animated enchantments that Myrkul can recycle should they die
Sounds like fun! 😄
Dumb question, but when a nontoken creature dies and there is a token copy that is an enchantment of it, can you still block or attack with them, even if they have power/toughness?
The tokens that this commander produces lose all of their types, so would no longer be creatures (and thus unable to block) 🙂
Gyre sage gets a +1/+1 counter for every creature that comes into play under your control while it's a Myrkul enchantment. Not as lucrative as Devoted Druid, but it's a good back up.
Nice idea! 😄
Ruling 702.100c A creature can’t have a greater power or toughness than a noncreature permanent.
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@@nightshade3122 read evolve.
@@itzybitzyspyder this ruling is under the section for Evolve. And the reminder text for Evolve does explicitly state "..this creature."
@@nightshade3122 my bad I went down a rabbit hole and couldn't remember where the rule was but here it is.
208.5. If a creature somehow has no value for its power, its power is 0. The same is true for toughness.
Since its base of 0/0 cannot go up from +1/+1 counters then it will always trigger when a creature enters the field under your control.
I'm personally playing Cinderhaze Wretch because I'm not building the neutral evil god of death to be a nice person
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Starfield of Nyx only animates YOUR enchantments (as long as you have five or more), and even brings them back from the graveyard to boot.
By the way, both Starfield of Nyx and Opalescense have the added bonus of bringing your other nontoken enchantments back as tokens if Myrkul is around.
A great suggestion! 😄
I've missed Alex 🥰
How sweet of you! :D
You two are my favourite MTG power couple 🥰 nice to see you both back (sending Martin love too)
I mean, there's always platinum angel...
Indeed! 😁
Algorithm comment. Keep 'em coming guys.
Thanks Chris! 😁