In regards to Chile, here's a spoiler free recollection of the information the show has given us up to this point where you're watching: 1. It is very difficult to find the records of him in Chile. 2. He was wealthy enough to sponsor Max's education into becoming a biochemist. 3. Whatever Gus did and whomever he was, it gave him sufficient notoriety to have the mexican cartel not kill him. 4. Chile was at the time ruled by Pinochet's human rights abusing government.
@@nerdymarriedcouple Also in the flashback with Hector and the young cousins (where he almost drowns one) Hector mentions "the chicken man" as a "generalissimo".
@@AboveAverageGamer1 You know it's the no half-measures thing from breaking bad. If only he gave them full helicopter rides instead of half ones, there wouldn't have been as much of a problem.
35:30 I love how I'm always learning new angles about the show and Kailyn's idea of Walt and Jesse being a relatable mirror of Gus and Max is very well found!
Yeah... Max was obviously Gus's romantic partner. It's Hector makes a homophobic remark in the flashback and why Gus is absolutely enraged by Max's murder. This is also explored a little bit further in BCS. Anyway, the relationship between Walt and Jesse is not comparable which is father and son.
Max is named after the actor playing Krazy-8 who's real name is Max Arciniega. Also the "i know who you are" explains his careful nature and hiding his information.
Gus might have been one of Chilean military officials under Pinochet. Then he fled the regime change and took different name. That's why "we know who you are" is such a threat.
If I remember correctly in the past Chile was very important in cocaine production and distribution. The Pinochet regime used the military to set up cocaine production and distribution on a large scale. It is almost a certainty that Gus was involved in this.
@@busimagen A good rule of thumb is if you see W, Y, or K, you can pretty much rule out Latin. You're partially right about the relationship between U and W - it was invented for that purpose - but the letter W came along late enough that Latin was untouched by it, so U will always fill that role (aqua, equal, etc.) When V eventually took on the modern sound, W was invented to take up the role that it had been performing, but all of the existing Latin words remained untouched. As a result, W is almost always going to point to words that came into English from German/Anglo-Saxon roots, and W sounds made by a U will almost always be Latin.
Gus originally accepted Walt's request to work with Jesse because Walt told him "he's my partner & I trust him". He knew what it felt like to lose a trusted partner. A loophole of mine in this episode is that Gus doesn't address Walt by his name at Los Pollos when he shows up with the bug- even though Hank, the rest of Walt's family and some of the dea are already aware of their two's relationship. Also Hank is being extremely inconsiderate to Walt by planting the bug & getting him involved with a high level drug dealer. It could come back to hurt Walt or his family. Hank technically is a "bad cop" and he has his breaking bad moments in the show
After having watched the show a million times, either directly, or by proxy from watching every youtube reaction to it under the sun, I just now realized how this episode gives the answer as to why Gus has a deep rooted distrust of drug addicts. It's because Don Eladio's men used the drugs instead of following Gus' instructions of delivering the product to Eladio, that the whole misunderstanding of Gus supposedly selling product in Eladio's territory happened. So, in Gus' mind, his partner died because a bunch of junkies couldn't follow simple instructions and instead chose to get high. Wow.
Hank's had a blind spot for Walt from the very beginning, like his mind won't even go there to think of him as suspicious. Even when Skylar (who *isn't* a cop) was sniffing him out from the get go lol. Kind of crazy to have this perspective in the show, where you're so sympathetic to the liar in the relationship.
So, Gus explains that Gale is one of 3 dozen or so other scholarship recipients. Maybe Gus has plans of international proportions long term. Or maybe Gale was the only one who would work like that for him. Either way, pretty interesting and shows hus ability to truly plan beyond immediate needs
You guys really should be something. Breaking bad seems to be able to pull back another layer after another layer. I think you guys are correct about Max being a drug addict. I never noticed that before. I think you were completely on point about that. And that’s why, Gustavo, said you could never trust a drug addict. And Kirsch probably didn’t realize that Max was actually dealing. And so when they went to go see Don Allado, he thought they were lying. He didn’t know that this is something that Max was probably doing behind his back. So good work on that analysis folks. I commend you for that.
Well, as others mentioned Gus +Max has a mkre simple explanation, clearly alluded to in the episode and *the* scene (while maybe yes, maybe it was a little bitbof Walt-Jesse parallel, that wans truly it Now about Gus and Walt. When Gus invited Walt to the house - I really dont think it was because of caring. Sure, Gus said they're partners and that he wanted to break bread wirh him blah blah. It was about about moulding Walt. Making sure that Walt - stil pretty much a regular guy and a newbie in a criminal world - wouldn't make something stupid. That's why Gus also said something like "you're rich now. Being poor everyone can manage. being rich not really". Gus "cared" about Walt because he cared about his business. Anyway, season finale before you? You are not ready. One of the best episodes and it will put into perspective how magnificently written was season 4, with every little thing and setup. And then you're certainly not ready for the mighty season 5 haha 😂
Gus visiting Hector is part gloating and part therapy sessions for him I always thought. Gus and Hector share a bond in a sense due to their roles and histories. Who else does Gus have to talk to these things about?
Gus and his young friend were like Walt and Jesse only more professional and the young guy was the cook in both chicken and Meth and Gus ends up being the one who keeps it going that young was like his loyal Jesse only he was also the Walt being the his cook
I love how "in control" Walt believes he is...as he spends 90% of his time worried sick about things out of his control. I agree w/ Gus. He is "not a cautious man at all." He's impulsive, monumentally selfish, and I think self-deluded.
its somewhat implied and a very big fan theory is that Gus is gay and when max said he was his partner he meant like husband. supported by Hectors snide comment that "they wont tell, they like what they see" when he was pissing in the pool. also want to say i just saw your comment about not seeing game of thrones and let a message on why i think yall will like and should react to it. fuck TH-cam for not telling me when people reply to my comments.
Carmen-Walt thing was not flirting, Carmen was worried about Walts mental health, and thats why she wanted to talk. The next scene shows Walt's poster, which reveals why Carmen had "the talk" with Walt. She saw the posters and thats why.
It raises the question did Gus have a different identity in Chili because young Hector said we know who you really are, or he said something like that I wonder what he name really was
Because this doesn't come up the rest of the show you guys were reading into it a little too much with gus and his backstory. Yall didn't miss anything its just kept intentionally vague. Just in this episode remember gus is: From Chile From Chile around the time of Pinochet's Regime Rescued Max from the Santiago Slums Just from these 3 things you can speculate a good number of things. This doesn't get expanded the rest of the show so thats what they give you to go off of.
Yea Walt knows how Mike bugged his house before how does he not think that Jesse's house is not bugged why does he think it's safe to talk about that at his place?
"I'm sure if uou keep digging, you find me." Such an ominous threat hidden in plain sight. Gus is a mastermind!
Something pretty cool about 11:35 is the elevator dings sound just like Hector’s bell, AND Gus is moving his finger like he is pressing the bell.
In regards to Chile, here's a spoiler free recollection of the information the show has given us up to this point where you're watching:
1. It is very difficult to find the records of him in Chile.
2. He was wealthy enough to sponsor Max's education into becoming a biochemist.
3. Whatever Gus did and whomever he was, it gave him sufficient notoriety to have the mexican cartel not kill him.
4. Chile was at the time ruled by Pinochet's human rights abusing government.
thanks for the breakdown 👍👍
@@nerdymarriedcouple Also in the flashback with Hector and the young cousins (where he almost drowns one) Hector mentions "the chicken man" as a "generalissimo".
Pinochet did nothing wrong, he just gave people heli rides😂
@@AboveAverageGamer1
You know it's the no half-measures thing from breaking bad. If only he gave them full helicopter rides instead of half ones, there wouldn't have been as much of a problem.
@@jxsh03 I've watch this entire show about 4 or 5 times and I never caught that. Very interesting, thanks!
Gus named the scholarship that he gave to Gale Bieticar was named after his friend who was killed by hector. "Max Arcienga Scholarship "
Fun fact, both the actor who plays Hector and the one who plays the cartel boss Don Eladio were in the movie Scarface.
And also Tuco's Aubelita that they will meet in BCS
So was abuelita from better call saul
His finger tic he is so pissed and thinking about how they have his finger prints now all because they killed Gale
Gus clearly had a military background, his highly disciplined lifestyle is a telltale sign.
Also one of Pinochets generals. hector calls him general in bcs
@@Mari77788 I think thats BB you're thinking of, the episode that shows the cousins when they're kids
35:30 I love how I'm always learning new angles about the show and Kailyn's idea of Walt and Jesse being a relatable mirror of Gus and Max is very well found!
Except for the fact that Walter and Jesse weren’t partners in that way…
Yeah... Max was obviously Gus's romantic partner. It's Hector makes a homophobic remark in the flashback and why Gus is absolutely enraged by Max's murder. This is also explored a little bit further in BCS. Anyway, the relationship between Walt and Jesse is not comparable which is father and son.
Gustavo tortures hector bc hector killed max so his motive is revenge he wants him to suffer for it it's blood for blood
Max is named after the actor playing Krazy-8 who's real name is Max Arciniega. Also the "i know who you are" explains his careful nature and hiding his information.
Why would they name a character after him?
@@jeezuschryst Many characters on the show are named after the actors/writers/producers
Max was most definitely Gus's lover, that's why he was so devastated. When Hector pees in the pool, he references to them being gay.
Gus might have been one of Chilean military officials under Pinochet. Then he fled the regime change and took different name. That's why "we know who you are" is such a threat.
hmmm interesting 🤔
There’s no might about it. He definitely was
If I remember correctly in the past Chile was very important in cocaine production and distribution. The Pinochet regime used the military to set up cocaine production and distribution on a large scale. It is almost a certainty that Gus was involved in this.
In the flashback scene when Hector is on the phone, he mentions that Gus was a general
*It’s speculated that Max and Gus were more than just close friends. But yeah, Max was just nervous*
Mike was a former cop, he’s got connections in that world
"Do you want me to beg you? Come on, just stick it in there!" ....That's what HANK said! 🤠
0:20 if you want to remember, think "pollos = poultry." The words come from the same root.
good tip 👍
@@busimagen Fowl is Germanic. Poultry/pollo/poulet(french) all come from the Latin "pullus."
@@busimagen A good rule of thumb is if you see W, Y, or K, you can pretty much rule out Latin. You're partially right about the relationship between U and W - it was invented for that purpose - but the letter W came along late enough that Latin was untouched by it, so U will always fill that role (aqua, equal, etc.)
When V eventually took on the modern sound, W was invented to take up the role that it had been performing, but all of the existing Latin words remained untouched. As a result, W is almost always going to point to words that came into English from German/Anglo-Saxon roots, and W sounds made by a U will almost always be Latin.
As you know, since the YT reactions are posted later, the show never lets off the gas from here on out. An absolute masterpiece!
🤯🤯🤯
max was gus' lover. gus is gay which is why the cartel looked down upon him
If you watch "Better Call Saul", you'll learn more about Gus and his partner. :(
Gus originally accepted Walt's request to work with Jesse because Walt told him "he's my partner & I trust him". He knew what it felt like to lose a trusted partner. A loophole of mine in this episode is that Gus doesn't address Walt by his name at Los Pollos when he shows up with the bug- even though Hank, the rest of Walt's family and some of the dea are already aware of their two's relationship. Also Hank is being extremely inconsiderate to Walt by planting the bug & getting him involved with a high level drug dealer. It could come back to hurt Walt or his family. Hank technically is a "bad cop" and he has his breaking bad moments in the show
8:20 He may have helped save him, he's also who redirected the twins from Walter to him. So how much did he really save him? Ha.
true 😬
After having watched the show a million times, either directly, or by proxy from watching every youtube reaction to it under the sun, I just now realized how this episode gives the answer as to why Gus has a deep rooted distrust of drug addicts. It's because Don Eladio's men used the drugs instead of following Gus' instructions of delivering the product to Eladio, that the whole misunderstanding of Gus supposedly selling product in Eladio's territory happened. So, in Gus' mind, his partner died because a bunch of junkies couldn't follow simple instructions and instead chose to get high. Wow.
Hank's had a blind spot for Walt from the very beginning, like his mind won't even go there to think of him as suspicious. Even when Skylar (who *isn't* a cop) was sniffing him out from the get go lol. Kind of crazy to have this perspective in the show, where you're so sympathetic to the liar in the relationship.
I doubt Max was on drugs, I assumed he was just extremely nervous but trying not to show it. We don't know the details though so it's possible.
The show writers keep certain things vague, like Gus' back story, so they aren't locked into too much in later seasons if/when they want to add more.
So, Gus explains that Gale is one of 3 dozen or so other scholarship recipients. Maybe Gus has plans of international proportions long term. Or maybe Gale was the only one who would work like that for him. Either way, pretty interesting and shows hus ability to truly plan beyond immediate needs
Most people think that Max was a relatonship partner to Gus as well his meth business partner. Vince Gilligan has confirmed this theory.
“I know who you are” means Gus was a general fir Pinochet, who threw a lot of people out of helicopters
I check TH-cam every day looking for your latest BB reaction! I've really enjoyed reliving the series with you guys! 😁
we're so happy you've loved our reactions! all the best to you
You guys really should be something. Breaking bad seems to be able to pull back another layer after another layer. I think you guys are correct about Max being a drug addict. I never noticed that before. I think you were completely on point about that. And that’s why, Gustavo, said you could never trust a drug addict. And Kirsch probably didn’t realize that Max was actually dealing. And so when they went to go see Don Allado, he thought they were lying. He didn’t know that this is something that Max was probably doing behind his back. So good work on that analysis folks. I commend you for that.
Well, as others mentioned Gus +Max has a mkre simple explanation, clearly alluded to in the episode and *the* scene (while maybe yes, maybe it was a little bitbof Walt-Jesse parallel, that wans truly it
Now about Gus and Walt. When Gus invited Walt to the house - I really dont think it was because of caring. Sure, Gus said they're partners and that he wanted to break bread wirh him blah blah. It was about about moulding Walt. Making sure that Walt - stil pretty much a regular guy and a newbie in a criminal world - wouldn't make something stupid. That's why Gus also said something like "you're rich now. Being poor everyone can manage. being rich not really". Gus "cared" about Walt because he cared about his business.
Anyway, season finale before you? You are not ready. One of the best episodes and it will put into perspective how magnificently written was season 4, with every little thing and setup.
And then you're certainly not ready for the mighty season 5 haha 😂
This episode answers some questions but raises many others
Gus visiting Hector is part gloating and part therapy sessions for him I always thought. Gus and Hector share a bond in a sense due to their roles and histories. Who else does Gus have to talk to these things about?
Gus and his young friend were like Walt and Jesse only more professional and the young guy was the cook in both chicken and Meth and Gus ends up being the one who keeps it going that young was like his loyal Jesse only he was also the Walt being the his cook
I love how "in control" Walt believes he is...as he spends 90% of his time worried sick about things out of his control. I agree w/ Gus. He is "not a cautious man at all." He's impulsive, monumentally selfish, and I think self-deluded.
You need the full story about Hector Salamanca, and who knows how much you need to watch to get that... ;)
Her songs are sweet, humorous, and pretty, just like her
"I know who you are"..... I believe he is saying, he knows what kind of man Gus is.
Kailyn seems really into Hector peeing in the pool
its somewhat implied and a very big fan theory is that Gus is gay and when max said he was his partner he meant like husband. supported by Hectors snide comment that "they wont tell, they like what they see" when he was pissing in the pool. also want to say i just saw your comment about not seeing game of thrones and let a message on why i think yall will like and should react to it. fuck TH-cam for not telling me when people reply to my comments.
Carmen-Walt thing was not flirting, Carmen was worried about Walts mental health, and thats why she wanted to talk. The next scene shows Walt's poster, which reveals why Carmen had "the talk" with Walt. She saw the posters and thats why.
To enter in the business need an intro, not trust can develop.
You miss so much by talking through it. Hector literally told you Gus is gay.
It raises the question did Gus have a different identity in Chili because young Hector said we know who you really are, or he said something like that I wonder what he name really was
Because this doesn't come up the rest of the show you guys were reading into it a little too much with gus and his backstory.
Yall didn't miss anything its just kept intentionally vague.
Just in this episode remember gus is:
From Chile
From Chile around the time of Pinochet's Regime
Rescued Max from the Santiago Slums
Just from these 3 things you can speculate a good number of things. This doesn't get expanded the rest of the show so thats what they give you to go off of.
You're ruining the experience by spoiling what mysteries will and won't get resolved.
Yea Walt knows how Mike bugged his house before how does he not think that Jesse's house is not bugged why does he think it's safe to talk about that at his place?