Can we fold this Frame, I mean not directly, but by removing screws when we travel? Will it damage if we frequently remove/add screws for folding/fitting?
Hello Sir, Enjoyed watching your video. Can I have the Taranis configuration for your setup? I am just starting to build a 550 for the first time and I could use your set up as a first start and learn from it.
Thanks for the comment. The copter has change A LOT since I made this video and I honestly haven't flow this in a few months, but I was running China Hobby Line (CNHL) 4S 55C 5000mah batteries with great results. The total weight is at 2503g, with the battery accounting for 569g. I would say the 3-axis Zhiyun Tiny2 accounts for another 400-600g, it's a pretty heavy gimbal but works amazingly well! With the whole package I get about 10 minutes of flight time. Sadly I've been flying my DJI Spark more than this big guy since it's so much easier to transport, has slightly longer flight time and equal or better video quality. Although I could improve video by using a better camera than the Xiaomi Yi I was running.
@@cjkcizur Hi, Thank you for the very descriptive reply, I have just finished building an S550 with 2 axis gimbal, Akaso EK7000 4k camera, total weight 2080g with 4s 5200mah battery, Arducopter APM 2.8 (its very light and small compared to Pixhawk). Havent flown it yet, (need set everything in mission planner first. ) looking forward to getting it in the Air!
Nice build. Im thinking of doing something similar with 10in props. what is your flight time? of actual flying? . could you tell if the pixhawk would fit in between the plates instead of being on the outside? WHat KV motors are you using ?
+Roberto C. Mercado Thanks Roberto! I'm using DJI 2212 920KV Motors and I get about 8-9 minutes of flight time on a 5800mAH 35C 3S battery with a voltage alarm going off at 3.3V/cell. When I land the voltage rebounds to about 3.8V/cell so there's a significant voltage drop under load. I may bump up to a 4S at some point but pretty happy with how she runs right now. I think Pixhawk would fit between the plates, but the mounting tape would have to be very thin and with the ports being on the top you would be compressing the connectors. You would also lose access since the opening at the top is not large enough for the Pixhawk form factor. If you go to the very end of the video I list all of the Specs for the build including motor KV, prop sizes etc. I'll be putting out some more vids of the build but don't hesitate at all to reach out if you have questions. Good luck!
Opps i should have waited until the end of the video ahaha. thanks for the info. Man i thought these hex drones would atleast stay up for 12mins. Ebay sales the same kit you have but with 800kv motors. Do you think it'll have a longer flight time with 5800mah 4s lipo? I was also wondering if the ebay kit can handle two 5500 lipos mounted, what are your thoughts on that? Thanks again !
+Roberto C. Mercado Yeah, I was hoping for longer flight times too and I continue to try to come up with ideas for weight savings to help boost it. However, the only real solution for the weight/flight time issue would be to move to lower KV motors spinning larger props, but the max prop size on the S550 Hex is 10". I believe that's why a lot of people go with the Tarot 690 size frames since they can fit larger props for more lift. The airframe could fit 2 x 5500mah, but I don't think it could handle that weight for safe, stable flight. Here are some calculations that I ran using Ecalc.ch (well worth paying a couple $$ for): - Current setup theoretical flight time: 11.5 min (I'm seeing closer to 9 at my voltage warning) - With 4s at the same weight: 15.5 min (but risk exceeding max power on motor) - With 4s on 9" props: 14.2 min *All times theoretical, I have not tested Seriously check out ecalc, for a couple dollars you can run all the different numbers and come up with a package that give you exactly what you're looking for in terms of flight times and lift capabilities. I guarantee it will save you money in the long run by knowing ahead of time! For me I'm not sure if I'll go 4s. I'll have to add an additional BEC for my gimbal which I'm running off the flight battery and it can only safely handle 7-13V. Realistically with the additional weight of a 4s, my guess is I would probably only see about 2-3 minutes of additional flight time, and right now I'm fine just swapping batteries. But for you just putting together a kit, 4s should get you to that 12min number with this setup and the right planning with regards to weight.
+cjkcizur interesting...the small weight reduction does help a lot. ill be doing the same to my quad... if you look at my drone videos you'll see my little 500mm diatone alien. the spec for the frame says 10 inch props but i recently used 11 inch pros but wasn't an efficient upgrade. the pros only add .5inch to each end of the prop and the clearance between all the props was about an inch. from the look of it in your video s550 handle use 11 inch, it'll be tight but it may work. ill use that calc too thanks.
+cjkcizur interesting...the small weight reduction does help a lot. ill be doing the same to my quad... if you look at my drone videos you'll see my little 500mm diatone alien. the spec for the frame says 10 inch props but i recently used 11 inch pros but wasn't an efficient upgrade. the pros only add .5inch to each end of the prop and the clearance between all the props was about an inch. from the look of it in your video s550 handle use 11 inch, it'll be tight but it may work. ill use that calc too thanks.
yes absolutely. I'm using a Zhiyun Z1-Tiny2 3-axis gimbal that is designed for the gopro hero 1,2,3,4 (not sure if it will work with the Hero5 and 6) but there's no reason why you can't use another 2-axis model. the gimbal hangs from two 10mm rails so as long as whatever you want to use supports standard rail hangers you can use whatever you want.
I'm currently using a Xiaomi Yi camera. It works well and the price is really nice at about $90, but the video quality is slightly lower than an actual GoPro and you may have to adjust the balance of the gimbal as most are actually designed for the weight of the GoPro line of cameras. I also have an adapter for my gimbal so that I can attach my GoPro Hero5 Session. However since the Session does not have live video output it's really not useful as I can't get a feed on my monitor.
Hello, we enjoyed watching your video! This is a very nice demonstration about how to use the telemetry script to see the impact of weight reduction on your power consumption. I would like to write a short post on our blog to explain what you did and how other people can do the same thing to improve their flight time. Can you tell me more about your results and perhaps provide suggestions that could help other users? Thanks! You can contact us at info@craftandtheoryllc.com.
Can we fold this Frame, I mean not directly, but by removing screws when we travel? Will it damage if we frequently remove/add screws for folding/fitting?
Yes you can 😃
Please recommend motors for this frame to lift 2kg payload
do you know where to buy larger arm s for this hexa so I can use bigger props?
Hi, nice work your doing. Can you please tell me the specs?
Hello Sir,
Enjoyed watching your video.
Can I have the Taranis configuration for your setup?
I am just starting to build a 550 for the first time and I could use your set up as a first start and learn from it.
Does anyone have a CAD model for a S550 drone frame?
NICE video. BATT SPECS and weight please?
Thanks for the comment. The copter has change A LOT since I made this video and I honestly haven't flow this in a few months, but I was running China Hobby Line (CNHL) 4S 55C 5000mah batteries with great results. The total weight is at 2503g, with the battery accounting for 569g. I would say the 3-axis Zhiyun Tiny2 accounts for another 400-600g, it's a pretty heavy gimbal but works amazingly well! With the whole package I get about 10 minutes of flight time. Sadly I've been flying my DJI Spark more than this big guy since it's so much easier to transport, has slightly longer flight time and equal or better video quality. Although I could improve video by using a better camera than the Xiaomi Yi I was running.
@@cjkcizur Hi, Thank you for the very descriptive reply, I have just finished building an S550 with 2 axis gimbal, Akaso EK7000 4k camera, total weight 2080g with 4s 5200mah battery, Arducopter APM 2.8 (its very light and small compared to Pixhawk). Havent flown it yet, (need set everything in mission planner first. ) looking forward to getting it in the Air!
how much weight to can lift.
Nice build. Im thinking of doing something similar with 10in props. what is your flight time? of actual flying?
. could you tell if the pixhawk would fit in between the plates instead of being on the outside? WHat KV motors are you using ?
+Roberto C. Mercado Thanks Roberto! I'm using DJI 2212 920KV Motors and I get about 8-9 minutes of flight time on a 5800mAH 35C 3S battery with a voltage alarm going off at 3.3V/cell. When I land the voltage rebounds to about 3.8V/cell so there's a significant voltage drop under load. I may bump up to a 4S at some point but pretty happy with how she runs right now.
I think Pixhawk would fit between the plates, but the mounting tape would have to be very thin and with the ports being on the top you would be compressing the connectors. You would also lose access since the opening at the top is not large enough for the Pixhawk form factor.
If you go to the very end of the video I list all of the Specs for the build including motor KV, prop sizes etc. I'll be putting out some more vids of the build but don't hesitate at all to reach out if you have questions.
Good luck!
Opps i should have waited until the end of the video ahaha. thanks for the info. Man i thought these hex drones would atleast stay up for 12mins. Ebay sales the same kit you have but with 800kv motors. Do you think it'll have a longer flight time with 5800mah 4s lipo? I was also wondering if the ebay kit can handle two 5500 lipos mounted, what are your thoughts on that?
Thanks again !
+Roberto C. Mercado Yeah, I was hoping for longer flight times too and I continue to try to come up with ideas for weight savings to help boost it. However, the only real solution for the weight/flight time issue would be to move to lower KV motors spinning larger props, but the max prop size on the S550 Hex is 10". I believe that's why a lot of people go with the Tarot 690 size frames since they can fit larger props for more lift.
The airframe could fit 2 x 5500mah, but I don't think it could handle that weight for safe, stable flight.
Here are some calculations that I ran using Ecalc.ch (well worth paying a couple $$ for):
- Current setup theoretical flight time: 11.5 min (I'm seeing closer to 9 at my voltage warning)
- With 4s at the same weight: 15.5 min (but risk exceeding max power on motor)
- With 4s on 9" props: 14.2 min
*All times theoretical, I have not tested
Seriously check out ecalc, for a couple dollars you can run all the different numbers and come up with a package that give you exactly what you're looking for in terms of flight times and lift capabilities. I guarantee it will save you money in the long run by knowing ahead of time!
For me I'm not sure if I'll go 4s. I'll have to add an additional BEC for my gimbal which I'm running off the flight battery and it can only safely handle 7-13V. Realistically with the additional weight of a 4s, my guess is I would probably only see about 2-3 minutes of additional flight time, and right now I'm fine just swapping batteries. But for you just putting together a kit, 4s should get you to that 12min number with this setup and the right planning with regards to weight.
+cjkcizur interesting...the small weight reduction does help a lot. ill be doing the same to my quad... if you look at my drone videos you'll see my little 500mm diatone alien. the spec for the frame says 10 inch props but i recently used 11 inch pros but wasn't an efficient upgrade. the pros only add .5inch to each end of the prop and the clearance between all the props was about an inch. from the look of it in your video s550 handle use 11 inch, it'll be tight but it may work.
ill use that calc too thanks.
+cjkcizur interesting...the small weight reduction does help a lot. ill be doing the same to my quad... if you look at my drone videos you'll see my little 500mm diatone alien. the spec for the frame says 10 inch props but i recently used 11 inch pros but wasn't an efficient upgrade. the pros only add .5inch to each end of the prop and the clearance between all the props was about an inch. from the look of it in your video s550 handle use 11 inch, it'll be tight but it may work.
ill use that calc too thanks.
Can I use gopro hero 3 with 2 axis gimbal for this hexa
yes absolutely. I'm using a Zhiyun Z1-Tiny2 3-axis gimbal that is designed for the gopro hero 1,2,3,4 (not sure if it will work with the Hero5 and 6) but there's no reason why you can't use another 2-axis model. the gimbal hangs from two 10mm rails so as long as whatever you want to use supports standard rail hangers you can use whatever you want.
Which camera are you using
Cjkcizur
I'm currently using a Xiaomi Yi camera. It works well and the price is really nice at about $90, but the video quality is slightly lower than an actual GoPro and you may have to adjust the balance of the gimbal as most are actually designed for the weight of the GoPro line of cameras. I also have an adapter for my gimbal so that I can attach my GoPro Hero5 Session. However since the Session does not have live video output it's really not useful as I can't get a feed on my monitor.
What is the WiFi range of the xiaomi camera
nice quad... but most hated radio lol
Why?
Hello, we enjoyed watching your video! This is a very nice demonstration about how to use the telemetry script to see the impact of weight reduction on your power consumption. I would like to write a short post on our blog to explain what you did and how other people can do the same thing to improve their flight time. Can you tell me more about your results and perhaps provide suggestions that could help other users? Thanks! You can contact us at info@craftandtheoryllc.com.