“Trump’s Next Coup Has Already Begun,” Reports Barton Gellman of The Atlantic | Amanpour and Company
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- Barton Gellman was among the journalists who predicted in 2020 that President Trump would not admit defeat if he lost the presidential election. Now, in a cover story for The Atlantic, Gellman says the former president is in an even better position to seize power. He speaks with Hari Sreenivasan about why he believes democracy will be on trial in the 2024 presidential election.
Originally aired on December 10, 2021.
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I'm too old for this, have spent 50 years fighting against fascist tendencies, but I'm currently divesting and getting set to move out of the USA. The noise and the violence is too much to live with, and our future looks bleak. No country lasts forever and I'm beginning to feel the decline. Could not be more tragic.
Totally feel the same way!
Riley...wish I could go with you.
Hard to disagree.
Fascism is inevitable, Democrats are to blame. Do nothing party I am fed up
Riley Hoffman, where are you planning to move to? Just curious.
I am honestly not trying to bash America (I'm Irish) but this is the endgame of a lot of societal and political rot over the decades. Every nation has its tipping points and none can be complacent, but America has been headed down this path for some time now. I sincerely hope that your country finds its way safely through this threat, but it will take time and perseverance and above all......an emphasis on education and consequences for a complete lack of integrity for many in positions of power and influence.......which means you have got to de-escalate the primacy of money in politics and social policy.
@潘poon America has been pushing a form of 'erratz' capitalism for several decades. It's an ideological form of economics that resembles Trump in that any valid criticism of it is batted away with world salads as 'unpatriotic', 'socialism', 'un-American', 'Communist', 'Radical Far Left'........you know, the laziest possible counter-arguments that reveal just how clueless at best and devoid of ethics at worst its advocates are.
For those in the US who are aware of these facts it is almost cathartic to see those outside the country highlight it. But please understand that the United States long ago became an Oligarchy and that at this point we are merely free to elect/re-elect our oppressors rather than real choice.
Don’t take this with a grain of salt… Democrats said they’d use legislators to give Hillary the win over trump as well, but it never happened, why? Because it was cause on outrage. People are already preparing for a red wave and making excuses. Coming from somebody who voted for trump in 2020, I would not go along with an version of a coup and there are many more like me.
@潘poonUSA owned by big corporations and billionionaires who buy votes.
If the USA falls, Europe will be at the mercy of the dictators in Russia and China. I hope our European allies assist in keeping the International Order going.
“We are sleepwalking into a Donald Trump dictatorship”
- Liz Cheney
Donald Trump: "I'll be a dictator on day one." And day two, and day three, and . . . Trump's worshippers will hail (heil?) him for it.
Jesus this is frightening! The party itself is completely lost!!
😅
@@Mr.Perfect-pl3tjcheckout project 2025. Fascist jerk!
your an idiot@@toddotto5464
What party? The New Brownshirts?
If they do that there will be strife in this country and no one well be safe even the rich and powerful
It seems pathetic to me that you still need to explain this to Americans. It has been painfully obvious to most of the educated world for over a year.
It's a cult
@@Iron_Monkey That sounds harmless, it is not. A fascist regime is always a cult around one person. This is the only person who can save the country they Tell you. That is a cult tells you there is no conservative right party anymore. Fascists are radicalized right, they always manipulate elections, then they will be the only party, other parties will be forbidden.
All fascist regimes share these points
Nationalism in extreme form
manipulating elections
Human rights are violated ( already happened, BLM protestors met with police violence, Trump even asked the military to shoot them, Amnesty International blamed severe violation of human rights)
merger of state and religion (I beg at you, evangelical pastors tell Trump is the son of Jesus)
violence and masculinity, youth, are glorified
Women back into the kitchen, giving birth
A we against them..a common enemy is created
focusing on crime, harsher punishments
propaganda for the dear leader, media is blamed, called lying press, media is controlled
Hate against other groups, religions, political opponents
humiliating and torturing of the blamed groups
Genocide possible
law and order
In the end only one party, other parties are forbidden
Books are forbidden ( burned), science and intellectuals denied
…
As an American, it's obvious to me. The USA has the Electoral College to ensure minority rules the majority. America has never been a democracy.
And many Americans listen to Fox Entertainment vs. the news.
Guess you have a reliable media. Must be nice.
"In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, countries and epochs it's the rule"
Friedrich Nietzsche
That pretty much wraps up the whole dynamics at play.
And that came from a schizophrenic delusional philosopher.
@潘poon well said, chapeau
@潘poon well said
Amazingly true.
"THE ONLY THING NECESSARY FOR THE TRIUMPH OF EVIL IS FOR GOOD MEN TO DO NOTHING”
He is telling me and you the TRUTH AND IT IS HAPPENING NOW!!!
The Florida 2000 election (Nader Gore Bush) should have been the wake up call
How about 5 political parties to choose from?
Which was fixed so Bush could win. That was done by the Supreme Court. But the ones responsible barely remember like Cavanaugh
Imagine, where we be if Gore had won that race? Would Iraq and Afghanistan wars occurred? Would Gore’s environmental policies have us going in a better direction by now? I wonder if we could have maintained the balanced budget, left to us by Clinton?
I can imagine we’d be doing better in so many ways.
@@debrasmith4149 I wonder how many people realize/remember that the final vote count in Florida to decide the ultra-close race, was *stopped* by the Supreme Court, and the win simply given to Bush. And next, we have 20-year-wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, with the Iraq war being based on lies by the Bush administration about "weapons of mass destruction" and imminent "mushroom clouds over American cities!" - nuclear and biological weapons which Iraq didn't have.
@@gobbygoo3981 We do not have a parliamentary system
So, let's throw out this electoral college garbage and just count the votes to see who wins
I agree. The EC always seemed like a scam to me.
Agreed. This EC bs is undemocratic instrument is defended by losers
Yeah, because everyone who came before us were just stupid. We should never understand why something was put in place before we demolish it.
That's what those "childish" Republicans do.
@@adamwalker2377 So u disagree? U figger the EC is serving a vital purpose? And that wanting to throw it away is a childish stunt? Seems like a perfectly appropriate “stunt” to me
@@adamwalker2377 It exists and was created for a reason that NO LONGER exists.
There is no longer a legitimate reason for it ... except manipulation by cheats and scoundrel's
Between this and the Max Boot interview, all Americans should be shocked and angered by the existential threat posed to our form of government by the GOP....who have decided that winning is all that matters, at any cost, including by violence and by subversion, and to hell with the consequences.
The truth is the exact opposite. The Democrats will sacrifice freedom to win. This is not a democracy but a Republic.
The potentially fatal hit was Citizen's United, it opened the door to legal bribery, allowing SuperPAC's to hide their donors which enables foreign adversaries to sneak money into elections. It's no coincidence Trump is again promoting Putin as a "Good guy".
And to hell with the country.
White Power and Justin Mohn may not be the scariest people in America. They are plenty scarry. Mohn’s moral/ emotional equivalents are active in all manner of activities, and yet to astonish us. But here I ask a deeper question. Who are these equivalents, in the organized units who operate ‘programs’ at deep layers of society, in black operations, in our towns and cities, carrying out what I call ‘stress- torture’, what some call ‘experimentation’?
For, these units target people the way Putin targets people; and exercise psychological torture the way Pinochet exercised physical torture. Some of our Government is doing this.
These programs target approximately 400,000 individuals across the country. These are being tortured by way of (1) strangers gang stalking you and strangers taking hundreds of photographs of you, or filming you; (2) someone monitoring and tracking you by plane or drone, when you step outside of your home, wherever you go, and the same planes and drones passing right over the roof of your home, grazing the roof of your home, at 15 minute intervals through the day, when you are home; (3) someone sending helicopters to hover over your home, on a appointed hour, for instance, at 10PM; (4) someone activating sleep deprivation techniques through the night, to keep you from sleeping until you begin to experience dissociation; (5) someone staging car collisions intended to maim you or kill you; (6) someone releasing pesticides over you from an UAV; and activating the Heat Ray (EMF) from a small drone. And finally, gaslighting you to your neighbors, family, friends, business colleagues, and such.
The torture programs express Guantanamo and Abu Ghraib torture techniques adapted to American society. To what purpose? We don’t know. The human mind can only take so much, thus (1, 2, 3);. car accidents can maim you or kill you; chemicals and sleep deprivation can cause the destruction of your nervous system and kill you. Gaslighting means you must abandon your town, your city, lose your job, friends, run to restart your life somewhere, only to find them waiting for you there. Suicide is not far away now….
Their mission: to create the conditions which make practical survival impossible; overstress the nervous system to make biological survival impossible. Murder without murder!
We know from Sergeant Joe Hickman that Dr. Mengele was not just a criminally depraved German… These programs, here, today, need Dr. Mengeles, American ones. Some of our Government is run by Dr. Mengele types.
A prominent figure on the OP has identified the helicopter pilots as retired Navy (they hovered over her home); a friend of mine from High School, a retired Marine, was involved in gang stalking me; an active duty State Trooper attempted to steer me into a head-on collision (with my wife being in the car); a plain cloth Agent (Police Officer or FBI) pointed a gun to my head in San Francisco, at a time when I began to report on the terrorism. The sleep deprivation program, on the other hand, was conducted by White Power. And this night, a helicopter passed over and over the roof of my home, all night long. Sleep deprivation - 700 nights, so far. This is the biggest weapon these terrorists hold: sleep deprivation.
To my knowledge, monsters like Justin Mohn or the White Power groups do not own helicopters. Some, in our Government, do. Military helicopters attacked my home, where I lived previously. Every night that I lived there.
Some of our Government operates in the dark. They create a black site around the targeted individual. And torture there. Especially when you’re doing good. They hate the good. Like Putin. Some of our Government is like that.
It conducts its business there, in this black operation. It is the Government though. Some illegitimate deep layers of it, but the Government nevertheless. There are Putins and Pinochets in there, in the dark, in the deep layers. There are Dr. Mengeles.
So, it is important to see that Putin and Justin Mohn types are in there. The only difference is that the depraved criminal Mohns act once; these other groups of Justin Mohns are carrying out programs, by creating black sites around the targeted individual and torture every day in assorted ways (1- 6).
They are so evil that not one of them has yet become a whistleblower! This means that it is as black as it can be in there.
America has rules and regulations that are meant to preserve freedom and democracy; they allow for the greatest of freedoms; and it has rules and regulations established in the dark by the likes of Putin, Kim, the Ayatollah suspending the rule of law - ruthless criminals with a program. Ruthless criminals with an idea! They are Americans. In their own eyes, the best of Americans.. The true Americans, the legitimate ones…
There may be several ‘programs’ and a number of ‘lists’. The no- fly list is exposed and it is understandable. It can act oppressively but also concerns our safety. I have flown all over the world and re-entered America from a number of countries over decades and until just two months ago, and I was never questioned, my luggage has never been checked, I am not on that list. So, there must be a number of programs, lists, whatever.
The program that I know began in 2001, under Bush, but was intensified and underwent a massive expansion when Trump began his ascent to the Presidency.
America has the greatest potential for goodness; but there is a demonic concealed inside it. This demonic wants to be near infinite: it is, after all, carrying out a selection process.
Psychological torture ends being unbearable - so it is not something distinct from physical torture, which is unbearable. Imagine: someone comes to the door of your house and kicks it. Fifteen minutes goes by and he kicks it again. How many kicks, how many days will your nervous system survive before you kill him (should he continue despite your pleas)? How many planes, grazing the roof of your home, time and time again?
The question we must ask: when will this demonic overwhelm the fragile free good? When will these gangs of American Putins and Crown Princes types triumph overall? If they are not exposed?
Trump won in 2020
This should be aired prime time on every fricken channel including the news!....where are you people?...😢
Share this, flood social media!
They're behind the media corporations!
Why this channel doesn’t receive more views is beyond me. It is one of the best news programs on the air.
Because it’s not angry… it presents the news and its interviews in a calm, pragmatic way. And unfortunately, that doesn’t sell. 🤨
I agree!
@@Buttercup697 so true.
Agree
You are so right. Demonstrable, overhyped Anger and Fear are the big sellers. Honestly, this video has me shaking, but it just articulately verifies what many of us already think.
A true wake up call for every American listening.
21 million won't listen :(
Well, Virginia definitely listened.
I think hearing all sides of the story along with solid evidence pertaining to all accusations would really help everyone get a thorough view of what is REALLY going on in Washington.
A comparatively smaller group vs the deeply misinformed right who believe things like the fireman and refuse to even consider any other evidence. It’s so bad we’re now watching as right wingers are dying of Covid at rates 5x that of those on the left. Why? Because they won’t get vaccinated and refuse to wear masks. So they die. And with all the reports from coast to coast of this phenomenon they still think it’s “fake news” until they end up dead and the family posts a GoFundMe account to help with funeral costs because “{insert name} loved his/her family and loved this country and will never be forgotten”. We’ve seen it thousands of times now. That’s scary cult like commitment to misinformation. If they’re willing to die for their commitment to their warped ideology then just imagine what they’ll do to the rest of us still living in reality.
@@TimDwg you watch too much left wing media news. If you think all republicans are not vaccinated. Too funny. But I can't help you if you're that gullible.
I honestly don't see any way out of this. The writing was on the wall when Trump was able to enthrall millions into a such a die hard cult of personality around himself, which happened in 2016. The moment he wouldn't agree to accept the results of the election in his debate with Hillary Clinton, he should have been disqualified from being a candidate. The fact that we as a society just let that slide was really a crossing of the Rubicon. Now it's not just the people in his cult, but more and more politicians, media outlets, people in positions of power. I honestly don't see how we get this horse back in the barn and it's genuinely horrifying.
I agree. We have such poor memories - bush stole florida from gore so quickly and easily . Don’t we remember that ? Now they’ve stacked the decks in swing states . I’m pretty pessimistic at this point . I think the votes will just add up to a fascist win . It will just happen , CNN will televise election night and it will be done . They’re working on this full time , they will not lose , its just too powerful and hungry of a movement . The tea party and evangelicals obsessively worked on this and now it’s going to happen
Reminds me of Dumbledore telling Harry Potter to continue to fight on, in what seems like a hopeless war. We've got 2022 and 2024 to get all hands on deck to defeat them.
I can think of a solution. If more than half of the people are denied their choice for POTUS, we refuse to pay taxes. No taxation without representation worked before, and they can’t lock us all up.
Gary Ferguson, last time that happened we had a war. Is that our inevitable future? 😞
@@leeloo1701-D Mass resistance wouldn’t have to lead to war. I hope it never goes that far.
If this doesn’t scare people, it’s beyond me.
I have sent this video to Biden, Pelosi and VP Harris and asked them how the plan to stop this without getting rid of the filibuster to pass federal voting rights.
Thank you!
The right will just say that Democrats are cheating they’re going to say that from this point on. I specifically heard a family member say that one day there will never be free elections again meaning that the left is cheating. I can’t even believe we are in the middle of watching our democracy crumble
Hope they listen to it!
Dianna(?); IF those laws are IGNORED by those affected by them (?); if they are not enforced: then we have the “national divorce” that MTG is now openly proposing.
Wow!
I’m Canadian and this is depressing AF
Yeah and we have to deal with these barbarians at the gate. @donofon101, i m always curious or mystified at those who know better but turn a blind eye and Do It Anyway
From an European point of view, it seems like Canada will be the only warrant of Democracy in the American continent in the next ten years. (maybe Chile or Argentina too, I guess...)
Depressing from Australia too.. if America goes down the fascist gurgle hole, will we follow them?
you have to remember he is referencing serial losers with no plan for the future.
Yeah with global warming I think a fascist America will invade Canada for its resource before 2040.
Gellman is 100% CORRECT and we must ACT NOW or we can say GOODBYE to America as we know it!!!!
America is unrecoverable under the Biden Administration.
America as we know it sucks right now, and it goes beyond the parties of the corporate regime. Lest we forget we’re all being bled dry by Wall Street and what they did 15 years ago, people think is ancient history. Keep arguing over b.s. , miss the bigger picture
@@UNLEASHED369 Biden sucks. So does Trump. So had every president since Reagan. Too many have taken their eye off the ball, this has been a long time coming.
If we want Democracy
We must elect Individuals who
Believe in Democracy
At all levels
This is terrifying and we are seeing the stage set in places like FL and GA.
In all Republican states.
Lol dems are the biggest cheaters in the world.. they are literally campaigning against voter id laws with their classic “racissst!” shriek. You are all pathetic clowns
@@jonjoyk5130 Democrats are not against voter ID, they put it in the bill! Learn before commenting.
@@thowl7065 Democrats don’t call voter id laws racist?
Yep Florida has not realized they are in a fascist mode.
Thank you, Amanpour & Co. for making the full interview available for free.
Agreed .... a great interview .... very concerning for every american. The GOP has become a mafia level criminal organization. And the US and its institutions need to start a full court press to bring these GOP criminals to account .. both at the federal, state, and local levels. Bring on the DOJ, FBI, US military, law enforcement, and every tool available. Put a few million of the Chump and GOP criminals in jail for a change.
Thanks for tuning in. We appreciate you!
how do we stop this?
@@stoodmuffinpersonal3144 That is the question, isn't it. Multiple approaches, I think. We need to be aware of what is happening on the local and state level. Really important decisions are made there and we can't let people get in positions of power that will support the Big Lie. And, believe me, they are attempting to do that. We also need to encourage the press to challenge people/politicians they interview to substantiate what is said. Yesterday, on PBS [Amanpour & Co] a legislator from Wisconsin said that the Freedom to Vote Act is against Voter ID. That is patently false; it includes Voter ID. The interviewer should never have let that misinformation get by her. I tweeted to the show but no response. We must keep the press on their toes.
The only to even attempt to stop it COTE BLUE!
The USA should have a parliamentary system. Win the most Reps! You win the election. Slam dunk. No electoral college. No gerrymandering.
It's about time SOMEBODY
started worrying about it👏👏👏
If we were in the Watergate era I would consider this man either Woodward or Bernstein. To say that Trump has recruited and endorsed a candidate of his liking scares the shit out of me. In the business world I believe this is called a hostile takeover.
Bernstein and Woodard are working together to bring the Trump problem to light.
If we had more critical thinking taught to all ages in the US, this wouldn't be the huge problem that it is. Also history and civics.
It isn't as easy as you might think. I speak from experience. That's all I can say in public.
...also this is a problem with mostly older voters who went to school when civics courses were more common and politics was more sanguine. No, this is a modern problem in my opinion. All voters, young and old, have each been captured by their own social media sink holes. We no longer have a common pursuit. I just hope it is illusory enough that we can find a common goal of reforming modern media to allow for society to flourish.
I agree. Ignorance seems to be glorified these days.
You are right Mrs. Zombie... the school system has failed to teach how to discern between truth and falsehood. Now "truth" can be anything you want it to be, and anything you don't like is false/fake. Prince, Michael, Janice, and Winehouse are all really alive and hiding in Uruguay
@@WINCHANDLE When you are too lazy to learn anything it becomes easiest to just not do it. Don't read, don't seek new knowledge or understanding. Just stay with what you know whether it is accurate, true or not. And, whatever you do never admit you are wrong.
This is just frightening. Being old enough to have watched this country slide rightward towards authoritarianism for decades the trend always indicated it would wind up here but now that we're here at the precipice of it I don't know how to actually absorb the reality of it. I'm seriously thinking about what to do with my family if or when full on right wing authoritarianism takes hold. We might leave the us for another country.
Run! Now! Flee this Country while there is still time!
Thanks for providing Gellman and the results of his research with this outlet. Your channel is one of the best available. Good work.
Frustrates me to hear people say these people were not like this before. Yes they were.
When he said "in their 40s" I thought of 26 years of alternative media with Fox and Republican radio and lately social media.
@KaikalaMoon Yes, they were JUST like that. As long as there are people of color in this country. There are those who STILL believe that since these POC cannot legally be enslaved as in the 1600's then they ( any POC ) should not live in this country. HATRED is the MAGA's kindred spirit. That is the glue that holds them together. Magas don't care that DJT and GOP could care less about them. Magas think their ethnicity will save them under a dictatorship .They couldn't be more misguided. Magas are DJT's tools, simply tools and a means to grab power. Then they will be left out in the cold: Only then will magas understand what they asked for. SHAME
What can be done to stop this??? It's like watching a train wreck in slow motion. Just watching it helplessly and hopelessly.
Get rid of the filibuster and pass the 2 voting rights acts.
I will simply vote AGAINST each and every single candidate that has NOT openly denounced the Trump movement. That said, I will vote FOR any person who has the GREATEST CHANCE of defeating that candidate. This is an all out battle at the ballot box for our country in its existential threat from autocratic rule by insane people with zero heart and soul. I recommend you do the same. ***HELP: Does anyone know how to design an app that helps VOTERS at the polls in different states understand which candidates are BEST to vote for? I understand that confusion and pressure will be maxed out during that time, and it is hard to pay attention to SO MUCH.
@K Bone
Yes...but,
If your vote is purged for arbitrary reason, or if the state legislators reverse the results, what then?
"The Führer was a man who was possible in Germany only at that very moment. Had he come, let us say, ten years later when the republic was firmly established, it would have been impossible for him.
And if he had come ten years previously or at any time when there was still the monarchy he would have got nowhere. He came at exactly this terrible transitory period when the monarchy had gone and the republic was not yet secure."
~ A conversation with Hans Frank (governor of occupied Poland during WW2) in his cell at the Nuremberg prison. Frank was later executed for war crimes and crimes against humanity.
Historically, liberal elites always concede power to the fascists to preserve the "system". America will be a fascist autocracy in less than a decade.
-- *_Excellent! Thank you, Hari Sreenivasan, Barton Gellman, and Amanpour and Company!_*
Mr. Gillman is one of the finest and bravest journalists of the 21st century. Amazing body of work...
As long as even a single trumpublican remains in office, democracy is in grave danger.
Investigations that are claiming to have all of this evidence to suggest it was a planned coup. What's trump doing now?
Planning to run in 2024. In most country's trump would have been charged with treason a year ago. Unless he was exiled or killed
@David Huberty No the GOP is only running on the "if I lose they cheated platform" so why would you want someone like that in office?
@David Huberty No that is not what I stated. The GOP has nothing that suggest anything remotely "for the people". There claim of "the tough law and order" party is just a bunch of whinny little bitches that complain every damn time they are caught with there hand in the cookie jar. Maybe address issues the people have instead of the people they have issues with. Funny how the GOP never cry's election fraud if they win and nothing to the voting process has changed since the election.
@SIDEWINDER the left flat out denied election fraud could even happen yet they screamed and cried that they lost the 2016 election due to fraud. You forget that?
@@no-won Yes the Hillary supporters cried and bitched however they did not attempt to stop the certification process for trump and within a month it was a dead issue. Not trump and his base which still are complaining about something that they just can't prove. Also, you must have forgotten that fox news was stating in 2016 that "dominion voting machines are virtually hack proof and no election fraud could have possibly taken place." Just look since it is on video it's out there for you to find.
"The greatest threat to democracy since the Civil War" was the 2010 Citizens United Decision. America now has the best democracy that money can buy.
What the greedy power hungry plutarchy don't understand is this will not end well for them either.
Congress has to pass legislation to undo the citizens united decision. Corporations are not human beings.
@@joeblow5087 Congress being owned by wealthy people and their corporations won't do anything about money ruling congress without a major uproar. Convincing people that helping the rich helps everyone can only go so far so they have appealed to people with guns, religion, racism, immigration, hating welfare, hating socialism, etc.
Exactly.....both sides of the political spectrum have become so beholden to corporatocracy that we may as well be fascist. We’ve seen a literal melding of government and corporations. One side applauds it. The other side is too ignorant to recognize it.
I've read in a couple of articles that Germany has the truest democracy. One wouldn't expect that to be true but it's been said to be so.
This channel is the smartest news information and very objective as well the independent news “democracy now” hosted by Amy Goodman.
This is a chilling report.
Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country!
Im Canadian and the danger that trump represent would encourage me to fight alongside americain. Republicain thinking is starting to have its effect even here... Its scary...
Any failed coup is practice. We are watching it in slow motion
Unless those that attempt it are summarily executed as traitors for it.
This was no coup. It was poorly organized by a scant few and some foolish others went along in the heat of the moment.
A Lincoln Project guy said it served at least one purpose: getting Republicans in line with the threat of violence. This video talks about replacing election-certifiers. They've also been threatening poll workers; no doubt to get them to quit too and be replaced by Trump loyalists.
,@@2wheelz3504 I disagree with a scant few. I believe when all is done it will be proven to be an extensive web of conspiracy starting at Trumps White House, including the 100+ named republican congresspeople who even after the insurrection tried to implement the "green bay sweep' and including Republicans at a state level (7 or so states sent fraudulent reflector forms) and republicans at grass root level attempting to take over voting systems at a state level while suppressing the vote as much as possible. One estimate is over 1000 involved but unsure where they got that number. Charges against the Oathkeeper is just starting to pull one string on the knitted web of lies...
@@crystalratclffe3258 A coup and extensive conspiracy? From guys in buffalo costumes, viking helmets and speedos? I don't think so.
Sad 😞. Please help us to overcome this difficult time. Please help those who can’t seemed to see the reality and don’t appreciate what this country has built on, democracy.
There is not much hope if DEMOCRATS are not taking drastic actions against those traitors!
We should know by now who the bad actors in Congress are who gave tours to the insurrectionists and organized their attendance.
Stubbornness and the inability to admit you are wrong keeps these folks in line. The damage is done.
It's imperative we listen to Mr. Gellman!
Total Orwellian disinformation.
Hilarious!!!’🤣🤣🤣
Sir, I have thought the same! Thank you for this very important report!
The fact that Trump has not choked on a cheeseburger or a chicken bone brings to light the fact that Trump is not eating enough cheeseburgers or deep-fried chicken. Everybody send him cheeseburgers!
Truth is punished and lies are rewarded in the USA.
Well, they were in the 2020 election.
@@philf4086 They are everywhere.
And the UK. I just saw Cumberbatch's 2019 movie, _Brexit: The Uncivil War_ on HBO Max. The REMAIN side was running around trying to counter lies, while with the help of Cambridge Analytica, LEAVE side was sending targeted messages (lies) to disenchanted Brits the other side didn't know about. When they found out, it was too late to fight a 20-year-old battle for their votes. It should have been a wakeup call for Hillary since she was a face of the 1990s' globalization.
Bidendemtites are invading our borders and Dems want more money to keep them coming!!~*
Everywhere when one side is rich. The rich always win no matter how crooked
These Capitol rioters are crazy people. Completely detached from reality. We are living in precarious times.
😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 indeed I’m so worried for my children, every youngster and for future generations😭😭😭😭 Lord help us🙏🏼
@@inocencianieves9909 Amen to that!
watch saying that...I have said it a couple times and got warnings from youtube... but watching them it is painfully obvious
Someone, help me, I'm trapped in a dystopian nightmare.
I am truly frightened for our country and its citizens. I pray.
All of this because NOTHING WAS DONE TO STOP THESE HORRIBLE PEOPLE.
I believe horrible people supported and helped elevate horrible people to positions of power. These horrible people are hoping they get exactly what they want. A country that allows them rights and privileges and the cost of the vulnerable.
The scariest part is the longer the good people wait, the tougher it will be to remove the horrible people from power.
For example, it took about 70 million dead, bankrupting whole nations (such as the UK) and two nuclear detonations to remove three people (Hitler, Mussolini and Hirohito) from power. What if the UK had dealt with them in 1932 when they were not so powerful or had annexed so many countries?
And yes, Hirohito was not technically removed from power but he was reduced to a figurehead as Gen. MacArthur became the provisional governor of Japan.
The temptation for each side to call the other “horrible” is precisely what makes subversion of democracy possible.
The only solution is for both sides to recognize that it is actually in their own best interest to protect democracy. When one side decides this is no longer the case, democracy will fall. Complaining about it is useless.
Instead, Plan for the worst, but do everything you can to support frank and open conversation about everything, without condemnation, and devoid petty partisan rancor. We must all work together to make sure everyone has a voice in our republic, whether we agree with them or not, in order to protect our own voices.
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@@Seekthetruth3000 Yeah. Right. Whatever...
I think Gellman is right on the money. And that's scary.
The more our country condones informative sources who blur the lines of and subvert real truth, while simply accepting what they are being told from the media, social media, and even their peers, without ever fact checking those sources, the more this problem will escalate! We most stand for and search out the truth in our personal lives first and foremost, in order for change to take place! It is vital for our future and the future of this county!
The fact that a lot of the people believing the big lie are indeed educated, tells you everything you need to know about just how backward and base level the American education system is.
Electors need to go. One person one vote.
I am in constant turmoil at the UnGodly, UnHoly, Shenanigans of Trump's Minions.. It's like watching Orcs stream forth to Seize control for the Dark Side...
See Georgia's 3 Governors controversy of 1947.
University of Oklahoma
nice dehumanising. first step to genocide down the road. people like you will vote for it...
biden is putting forth 'mandatory' vaccines whilst not offering a treatment protocol for covid. sick
@@orionsshoe2424 right! We've been invaded for over 60 years, now
@@orionsshoe2424 this is a nation of immigrants. Do you not agree?
@David Huberty wtf are you talking about
This is just insane. The most important video on TH-cam right now
Now you are seeing what Murdoch has been doing to Australia, being repeated in the US.
And the Republicans love that immigrant.
The Republican motto: if you can't get people to like you for who you are, cheat like a jackel
This is quite the obtuse opinion.
@@SMIGGS is it not true tho?
@@Dzztzt It's definitely true for some, not all, on both sides.
@DON MORRIS I thought that way in 2016 but they bounced back in the worst way possible, now we know they'd stab us in the back no matter what we do
@潘poon they cheat to get the money too it's just cheating the numbers don't add up for them they are liars and are killing us, all of us
I was also born in1950. Followed politics closely since 1967 ~ My idea of the state of American Democracy since this interview was made, is that America is in precarious danger of failing to a right wing authoritarian mess. The USA is in unchartered waters, and blood is in the sea.
The longer trump is not in prison the longer the damage! Campaign refinance is a must!
This is exactly why he should be unable to run, for one reason or another. 🇺🇸💙
This guy is sounding the flag but no one gets it - will be too late by the time people recognize the deal. This is history repeating itself, what Trump is trying to do is nothing new - this has been seen around the world countless times.
trump basically doing exactly what the nazi did in 1939. so far steps right of the nazi play book..... all that dumbed down education was not just a fluke
It's interesting that we have no one person in this period with the respect of a majority to convince citizens that autocracy is winning. As in the McCarthy era like Edward Morrow.
Yes EVEN Walter Chronkite the NBC dynamic duo or a series of ABC REPORTERS. BUT WE LIVE WHERE PARTY OVER COUNTRY RULES EVEN ON THE STATES YES THAT IS WHERE THE Republicans are devious and have FeauxNews at Fox in their corner.
Yes Sandra&-people who have read 20th century history have been following the steps to the authoritarian state, ticking off the required positioning--most authorities are assigned/placed at the bottom-local, where votes are cast--to ensure outcomes (like Putin did to win St.Petersburg, Russia: winning145% of vote), and they are now still concentrating on "if" a dictator gets back in, which almost doesn't matter...any of his doctrinaire strong-arm followers can do it, go along. Why would they?For decades, Congress has whined about the 2yr term being an unending campaign, constantly hounding donors to re-elect them, and in this century with partisan cable news, the Pres.ratings never end either. The promise to them is "no more elections, we just make all those in permanent appointments [like kangaroo democracies as Stalin did, or Turkey is now), because " come on, we know what the people need, we can take care of all this, end wasteful spending, jail detractors,they stop progress, and we won't be like the mean autocrats" That is how they ALL get followers and once it catches hold like it has in America--the guy is GONE from office and all these states have already changed laws to allow precincts to award candidates! I am certain we have already had our last election--like Russia, with no way to oppose, even Appla,Gaggle shut down to help them.I am sure there will be a well-armed, national coup before Jan,
I feel there will be a well-,armed, national 2nd coup before Jan6-20, that succeeds and installs initially, Trump, placing all officials under arrest...again why? Because it is easiest was, will be seamless, erasing GA Senate elections when displaced bad guys, ending all Democratic help bills...because it will be and seamless, less than a year that the President was exiled, like DeGalle after WWII...and mist importantly, Putin will send in unmarked troops through Canada to help us, WHILE he us retaking UKRAINE, with Trumps head-nodding compliance--he is not polonium-tea'd yet because he is still helping.: Owing first trip to Saudi Arabia and fealty to Putin, our gas was conspicuously manipulated to be $2.39gal last2yrs of his term, no one except economists NOTICED the false bargain...now that it us back to punishing reality, there us unpopularity and unrest--THAT right there is how Castro got in to SAVE Cuba from Batista! The Soviets owned him after, because Jo one quits the Mafia, once they have helped you, you owe for life...is is a debt that can never be repaid in dollars, and now they want America destroyed all the way down, eviscerating OfficialNotifcstion U.S.Mail Dejoy...THAT is how Castro got ell the deeds to houses and restaurants changed into regime ownership, all business' too.They didnt even know--Putin again, did this in St.Pete, Becoming 20% share-holder of gas/oil corps jailing CEOs. We even gave a law now internationally recognized by the UN,because if this tactic: The Magninski(sp?) Law, passed by our Congress, a doctrine to prevent these takeovers, murders. All chronicled n books of past 2 yrs.
You mean the one coming from the left?
@@Seekthetruth3000 The “one coming from the left” what? Someone on the left is going to convince the unwashed masses of Trumps autocratic tendencies? Who?
One person, one vote
So many people are so busy to care about what’s going on; still, so many are indifferent to the truth‼️🤦🏽♀️🤯🤷🏽♀️ the challenge is enormously daunting as to how to reach their hearts. 🤨💔🙃🤨
Solutions as I see them: Vote for small dollar donation-backed candidates in every state, support honest candidates for every state office, help keep state legislatures honest to help keep democracy working, and back a constitutional amendment to make the popular vote determine electors in your state, then we can support a Federal amendment for the popular vote to determine the president. Somehow we have to find a solution, or else we could wind up with another Rutherford B. Hayes type of outcome, which was in Trump's bag of dirty tricks tor 2020.🗽
Awful as it was, the Hayes outcome was only for one election. What Gellman discusses here is worse: an institutional mechanism for one party to change the outcome of any election.
@@Struwwel2 agreed that we are approaching a turning point with dire consequences for Democracy. I want nothing to do with violence so I am hoping that enough good conversations can create a plan on which energy can be focused. The democratic leadership is seeming to behave as if "nothing going on here, move along." You know that if the Trumponauts pull this off, it will mean the "Deep State" either doesn't exist or was always to weak to get anything done. It's either a ghost or has the power of a drunken rabbit in a snare. Wonder if they will acknowledge their error in judgement. Ahhh...no. They never own it!
The only thing Chuck us that we are.mostly focused on the top bad guy and his treacherous criminal henchmen. Authoritarianism starts the bottom locally so appointed posts assure lifetime authority this votes ng boards and they n red state legislators have done it--they NEED a crooked pardoner for all the takeovers they are planning--that's why I feel certain a 2nd coup is coming quick, and we have all participated in our last election. It seems unbelievable that 240yrs of citizens replete with pride and like be of democracy as the best government--yes, hellbent on making it fairer, better, more perfect union--can now be thoroughly convinced that elections cost too much, wear us down, tax us and allow liberals who font make enough money into power, do they need permanent power this fix it, together determined they know what the little people need. THE DENIAL OF THIS POSSIBILITY IS ALL COMING FROM US DEMS...just like 1936 German Jews.
“It’s not who votes that counts, it’s who counts the votes”. Josef Stalin.
@潘poon do you know what a server is?
In practice he is right, in principle he is wrong. And therein lies much of the problem. There are too many ways to vote over too long a period of time and too many ways votes are counted by too many politically motivated agents. The national election should be a national holiday so that everyone can go to the polls. No votes should be accepted after election day. Absentee ballots should remain in effect and submitted with a voter registration card and ID. No mail-in ballots. A hard copy of all ballots should be retained. Votes should be counted electronically. Voting machines should be certified by technology experts with no connections to the machine manufacturer. People are upset because they no longer have confidence in the system. Democrats whined about it in 2016 and Republicans are doing it in 2020. If election procedures continue to cease to make any sense, the anxiety will increase and we will have big trouble in America. Our system is based on free and fair elections. If that goes away we're toast!
"He (Stalin) wrote quite a bit, unsurprisingly, as a Soviet head of state from 1928-1953 and an influential politician in the early Soviet Union before that," Frank Wcislo, associate professor of history said in an email. "The suggestion that somehow Stalin should be introduced to demean the legitimate operation of a national election is, I would think, an example of American right-wing paranoia, active manipulation of public opinion, or outright and fascism.
Our rating: False
We rate this claim as FALSE, because it was not supported by our research. Although former Soviet Union leader Joseph Stalin may have commented on elections and vote counting integrity, there's no evidence that he made this statement.
@@dinnerwithfranklin2451 It doesn’t matter who said it; it’s the truth of the statement that matters. And, for your information, I am neither right-wing nor paranoid. I believe that the 2020 elections were a true representation of the will of the people. However the fact remains that whoever controls the voting process controls the election - as the US will discover in 2024 when the process has been crammed with Trump staffers.
@@370530e It matters who you claim said it if it is someone like Stalin. If you quoted Dahlmer you would be associating the quote with a certain perception people have of that man.
If it did not matter then you would not have to associate the particular name to the quote particularly since the attribution is disputed.
Absolutely terrifying. Where is the mainstream media and all of this?
What this man says is spot on !
We are a year from the last election. We have heard what they are doing all this time. We NEED to start hearing answers not the problem anymore. Get it out to us other then another civil war. That is not the answer.
God, don't remind me that we have been under a year of this idiocy of a administration.
It would be refreshing to see Congress actually solving problems instead of bickering about who is right and who is wrong.
Get rid of the filibuster and pass the 2 voting rights acts.
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@@Carlos27thFS Stick to Biden especially with a name like Carlos. You dont fit the spec for the alternative.
Thanks for covering this article & author!
Total Orwellian disinformation.
Thanks for tuning in!
@@Seekthetruth3000 Could you be more specific, please? With which particular point(s) do you take issue?
@@Tupelo927 The whole thing. Everything the left accuses Trump of doing, the left has already done to Trump. Remember the so-called Russian Collusion? The whole thing was a lie pushed by the corrupt mainstream including NPR, PBS, Democracy Now, The NY Times, The Washington Post, ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, MSNBC...etc. To this day, they have not apologized to Trump and his supporters for pushing that lie. To this day, Hillary Clinton believes Trump stole the Presidential election in 2016. The election of Trump exposed the existence of a deep state which is heavily populated by leftist democrats who are accountable to nobody. These leftist democrats have their own agenda and see Trump and his agenda as a problem, which must be eliminated. Leftists use Orwellian tactics to spread disinformation about Trump, and this program is a good example of that disinformation. Leftists do not believe in freedom particularly, freedom of speech. They do not believe in the free exchange of ideas about different issues. It is their way or the highway. Read " Unfreedom of the Press " and " American Marxism " by Mark Levin to have a better understanding of the problem.
This is scary! Democracy is dead ☠️ in multiple places in the US. This is Not the nation I lived in ! I’m 75 and I hate that my grandkids don’t have a chance to live in a democracy like I did.
I loved my country but it has changed beyond any hope for repair! It makes me sad that a good nation has become so lost 😞.
When people talk about what a great place it is, I know they are not paying attention!
The coup never stopped and has gained judicial support at the expense of 330 million people.
I'm SO done with these damn fascists. WTF?
Who are the fascist from your perspective? Just a question
But they aren't done with you. And it is likely they'll win because they keep the momentum going under any circumstance. And this is a wholesale replacement of the system that underpins the USA.
I hope you can equal or beat their level of energy and influence (at least, as a group of people).
to: BK Bland, “Heads I win tails you lose.” is true for both "Democrats" and "Republicans". If that’s too painful for you, you should go back to sleep now.
@@ynotawoody Meaningless drivel is just that. Try thinking for yourself. It's easier than you think.
@@bkbland1626 to: BK Bland, Sweat dreams my friend. I wish you good health and a bright future.
USA exceptionalism also known as democracy governed by minority
The nail was hammered.
The screw was...
We're the screw.
Yep. Frightening times for U.S. democracy
Save this video for your recording and review it on 2024.
It would be very good to invite Senator Sheldon Whitehouse to the program to discuss the presentation is making to congress which he titles “The Scheme”.
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Yes! I very much agree!
As a Rhode Islander, I agree. Sen. Whitehouse is a decent man.
I think most Americans lost faith in our government. I have a very large conservative family that voted for Trump and they don't like Biden so they're not going to vote for either party for president. They need to get rid of the electoral voting system and just count the popular vote.
The first one has never ended.
Remove the electoral college
How is it even legal for these states to change rules like that?
Like how are pogroms and genocides legal? Like how was slavery or Japanese internment legal? Like how are massive spills and pollution legal? Corporations are citizens now and people are disenfranchised.
Because of the vague or conflictiing passages in or the Constitutional documents
The US Supreme Court is hearing a case on this exact threat next term..the court will decide if the US government gets overthrown and we become a failed democracy 😔
@@kusheranit is insane how israel, for example, here in 2024 can just commit murder and thats considered tolerable. Millions protest around their kitchen tables but the bloodshed goes on. Very strange
@@clarkpalace Humas started the war. The Palestinians chose Humas to represent them politically. The Palestinians have been complicit in hiding Humas and their weapons. Palestinians can stop the war by having hostages returned and Humas surrenders. Humas knows they can win the sympathy of uninformed groups by simply sacrificing their own people. Who's really wrong here. Supporting Humas is simply foolish. Humas needs to stop killing its own population. Why should Israel stop trying to remove terrorist preventing them from attacking in the future.
I've been begging the whole democratic party for the last year and a half, to come together!All of us!!!!!!! 🇺🇲🙏💙
It's alarming, yet believable, that PBS is the only mainstream media outlet actually talking about not only this, but how this country is seemingly on a collision course with fascism.
We need to cancel out the electoral college. Let the popular vote decide.
Thanks, Hari - forgetting Mr. Gellman on your interview. Very concise and succinct accounting of America's tipping point.
*for getting (different meaning)
Well said...
I find it disturbingly fascinating how much the 21st century is rhyming with the 20th. By those standards, we've got the Roaring 20's for a few more years before a massive economic crisis followed by another global armed conflict. It's like we didn't learn a damned thing the last time around.
After Liz Cheney read aloud the texts Mark Meadows received on Jan 6...
“Imagine a Congress and US Senate where every member had the commitment to country over party that Liz Cheney is showing right now.”
-- Jocelyn Benson, Michigan Secretary of State
It's already been proven the 'text' Cheney read was doctored by your pal Adam Schiff. Now apologize to everyone!
@@whyyeseyec Shifty chit certainly doctored it just like he did to the perfect Ukraine phone call during the fake 1st quid pro quo impeachment. Brainwashed leftest dems are too blind to see it.
Jan 6 was another reminder that The disintegration of a country and systems of government that were built on the white supremacy for over 250+ years is now evaporating and those in power who understand the coloring of America is on the fast lane as noticed when both GA senatorial victories gave both houses majority largely in part because of large turn out of poc voting the right goes to attack their voting rights at the same time more fearful ones want to rescind democracy so that one racial group remains in power.
@@tyronevincent1368 Your view of Jan 6th will blow up in your face just as Russiagate did. You libs never learn.
@@whyyeseyec Hmmmmm. I don’t recall DJT Jr, Laura Ingraham, or Sean Hannity saying the messages were altered.
Please point me to your source.
We should have International election observers coming to the United States, and they should closely follow IRI and NDI standards and practices.
Sobering, to put it as mildly as I can.
Why is this not treason
I will simply vote AGAINST each and every single candidate that has NOT openly denounced the Trump movement. That said, I will vote FOR any person who has the GREATEST CHANCE of defeating that candidate. This is an all out battle at the ballot box for our country in its existential threat from autocratic rule by insane people with zero heart and soul. I recommend you do the same. ***HELP: Does anyone know how to design an app that helps VOTERS at the polls in different states understand which candidates are BEST to vote for? I understand that confusion and pressure will be maxed out during that time, and it is hard to pay attention to SO MUCH.
With all being said here...it will be rigged way before you get to vote....they have found ways to change the vote any way they want..at least in some states!
No worries. We have the best government that money can buy.
It must b that bc its so strange to watch a train wreck in slow motion. Money must b doing the dirty work behind the scenes
Somewhere down the road we will have a grasp as to the amount of damage that Trump has done to this country.
This was an amazing fact-based overview of the subject....deserves an award. 😂
This is more than a thesis.
I moved and changed my registration at the Fulton County office. That should have been it. I showed ID. They sent a form to my old address which was forwarded. I then had to send in that form. If somebody doesn't submit a P.O. change of address one might end up unregistered.
That's right and that's the way it should be. Voting is a right with responsibility. The last two times I moved I took care of it because it is important. I want to be legally registered to vote and I want everyone else to be also.
By 2018 Republicans purged 500,000 voters so Stacey Abrams lost by 50k. She then registered and re-registered 600,000 so Democrats could win in 2020 and 2021. We need someone like her in many states. But it won't matter if they can overturn the election by their say-so.
@@sandal_thong8631 They sent me a sketchy card in about 2016. If I'd overlooked it and not returned it I would have been deregistered. That was before we were alerted about their scheme. Many people obviously overlooked it which was easy to do.
I have always said that one of the major contributing factors to the ignorance of Americans has been low quality public education. It has failed to create critical thinking voters.
I agree with Barton Gelman's initial theory. It's a very scary time in America. I worry for the younger generations.