videogame history right here! toxic getting psyched out by fatal1ty's crowd, gets a few words of support from a quake veteran and comes back with the humilitation plays on the last map. lovely moment when the crowd goes completely silent.
rikzz0r its kinda old, i know and i understand im still playing with QL but they have to realese something new, but i love QL. like Q4 was before i think if they realase a new quake everyone comes back with the oldschool players, and the playerbase stands up again.
@@TheVanillatech lol what? Even if we look past the illogic of no monitor or GPU being able to get anywhere near 4K, next to no renderers from 1996 supported 4K either nor any OS, so not even technically is that possible.
When I see pro fps gamers these days, I have to wonder how they became so when their game play looks so close to mine and their kills don't look like much of an achievement or "OOOOHHHH" moment. When I see the Quake game champs though, I am so impressed.
rikzz0r While technical skills are of course crucial, being able to "read" your opponents mind (fighting gamers call it yomi) and having extremely good appraisal skills are what truly separates the best from the very good. What really amazes me in Quake 1 on1 isn't so much the aim (you kind of expect it to be near perfect after all), but the mind games and lightning fast decision making. Almost like in a good old Street Fighter match.
I'm gonna cry seeing this again. This is the origin of pro gaming boys and girls. I was not there to experience it, bu this is HISTORY to me, and it takes me aback to see how far we've come.
Schiff Granger esports in general with revenue and familiarity has improved over time. Though I feel like games are becoming less and less interesting to play comletitively :/
How far HAVE we come tho? Todays Pro-gaming consists of LOL, CSGO, Overwatch and Starcraft 2 (the last one is actually interesting to watch). We have gone BACKWARDS as far as I am concerned. They started with interesting games like Quake 1 & 2, Unreal Tournament and Starcraft. But yet we have evolved backwards to shitty crap like the games above. There is just no entertainment value in either LoL or CSGO. Overwatch is kind of fun to watch, cause of all the bugs and brokenness in maps, heroes and gameplay.
crisis dueling was much better. this game is susceptible to spawn killing RNG, and flat out spawn rushing. the controlled crisis dueling allowed players to restack an even amount of health before eachother start the next frag. far more controlled and skill based. but I respect the quake players for their focus on pure gameplay.
TransparencyDigital You don't know much about definition and resolutions do you ? it's about encoding not just hardware, I can encode videos in 4K resolution and thats considered Ultra high def for TV. HD goes all the way up to 8-9K, and the files are absolutely massive for even just 10 minutes of recorded video.
I like it when they play out the entire time, even if a comeback is simply not doable, then the final score properly represents the game play throughout the entire map.
Unreal tournament is going to be an esport coming in the fall ( hopefuly ) atleast esports announced it would be. Also, counterstrike is still definitely considered an old school skill based fps.
I dont mind cs:go and halo 3 but I wish these types of games were more popular, warsow and quake live tournaments are sometimes fun to watch but they arent very popular
The original video was the first one that I've seen,showing an e-sports tournament. After TH-cam had support for 720p videos back in the beginning of 2009, I decided to enhance that video with better ingame graphics in 720p. Back then there was a 10 min limit and i had to split the videos in 10 parts.After i got an unlimited time from YT and with its new 180p option, I decided to "remaster" my "old" videos and put them all together. Q4 is still being played today by a few, check the the info :)
For anyone that wonders why Fatal1ty started this final with one map disadvantage, watch this video th-cam.com/video/IZQAE4a1uPo/w-d-xo.html They already played against each other in the Upper Bracket - "Round 2".
GGs, i rem watching this back in the day, I was like 16 years old and addicted to quake4 dueling, i thought toxic was a GOD irl and ingame aha.. man I miss arena fps gaming so fun, this was way better then qlive and cs:go. I miss it
What did you expect? The only thing i hated about the Fatality it is his fanbase. SO annoying and disrespectfull to other player, even if they are BETTER than Fatality. Anyway that was gg.
Toxic was another level of Quake player. Toxic was the champion and Fatal1ty was the underdog....will you cheer for your champion if he literally wins almost every games for how many years?
Well check the records, Fatal1ty has MORE gaming experience under his wings, he plays SMARTER than Toxic, and he has won more games than toxic during history. TBH im swedish but i was rooting for Fatal1ty, cause i KNOW he was and IS the better player. Toxic got lucky and got the last map of choice, they should have picked a random map for the tie-breaker tbh.
@@Pejje85 lol, you know he was better? He was CLEARLY not better in q4. Check toxjq's stats, fatal1ty didnt do that well. Stop cheering for "what you think" is the best player only lol.
Well Q4 might not be everyone's favourite and Fatal1ty is definitely a Marmite player (you either love him or hate him) but damn I love watching Quake duels in LAN tournaments - where not only the pace is furious but you know there's top tier tactics going on too. All these crazy rails and rockets coming out when you're timing multiple items and trying to win position wars, fuck that :p
Yea, I originally uploaded this video in 1440p back in 2011. But after processing my video, YT displayed only 1080p as the maximum quality option. I'm surprised to see 1440p as an option now.
Theirs so much skill and nuance in quake it's insane. It's right up there with cs. Anyone ever heard of the angel clan. From quake 3. ^Dark^Angel^ dude was beast.
yes quake 4 had a number of new features such as crouchsliding which made you able to keep your speed around corners and then if timed correctly would give u a boost when jumping out back into your strafe jump.
Hello, I remade this video with the missing Fatal1ty POV Demos and at 2160p 4k60: th-cam.com/video/4HAeJZN4cbo/w-d-xo.html 4k30: th-cam.com/video/GcMEP0UIcqA/w-d-xo.html 4k30:th-cam.com/video/C9zcm1O1UCs/w-d-xo.html (no casting/in-game sounds) Hope you enjoy!
Man back in the day I used to watch the guys at the pc shop play this. I was always an mmo gamer.. man did I miss out on a lot of fun! What quake you guys reccomend I get into to try to live some of this glory lol?
No, Q4 was better than quake 3, but it was not good. The best quake was quake 2 then original Quake then the fourth one and so on...Quake 2 even has the BEST maps, wondering if they are gonna bring any of them into QC
If you want to get into something you should start with quake live clan arena and free for all. It's not the most core, that would be Quakeworld tdm with it's hardcore strats, Q3/QL ctf for teamwork, and duel for the 1v1 purists, but Quakelive clan arena is probably the most accessible mod.
That's not really true. Fat won his map pick (Placebo Effect) in the 1st bo3 and the 2nd bo3, he just managed to steal Tox's map (Phrantic) in the 1st series but not the 2nd.
I miss the old days First I was playing HalfLife DM and Cstrike 1.6 then Day of Defeat and Quake3 then Quake4 and ET =) now Quakelive and ET sometimes.. and CoD BO and MW3 on PS3 :D changed to PS3 player^^
Not excactly, I meet him in Quake 4 Demo MP DK-DeathRow Clan. That is how i wanted to add him! He has his own Gaming shop! it´s called ˝Fatal1ty Gaming Gear˝!
Look at those score of matches that actually matter. I have a feeling that john simply bought his wins. And why not? He got his 15 minutes of fame(beat tox, omg), johan got more cash, fans watched more matches. Everyone is happy!
That's what I was wondering. Why does Toxic win the match with only 2 map victories, when Fatality already had 3 map victories? I really don't understand...
***** Because Toxic had already beaten Fatal1ty in the groupstage, so he came from the lower bracket. Thats why Toxic only had to win one bo3 while Fatal1ty had to win two, so after he won the first one the final was "even" so to speak.
***** Quake 4 was as single player game first. The multiplayer was never going to match Quake III. Nothing ever has, even in 2015. Carmack himself admitted it was a glorious accident on how amazing Q3 was in terms of engine mechanics and how the game flowed. He called Quake III his best work ever. Consider that iD didn't make Quake 4, too. I enjoyed Quake 4 as a successor to Quake II. It had awesome graphics, great guns, plenty of atmosphere and it was a challenging game. Compared to the other single player FPS games at the time, it was right up there at the top. And sure, the Q4 multiplayer was nowhere near as good as Quake 3's, but I think the only thing that might have been able to come close would be if MachineGames had included and "Enemy Territory" multiplayer mode for their Wolfenstein New Order. I still can't understand WHY they didn't...
TheVanillatech They didn't want to shoehorn a multiplayer mode for The New Order like most other mainstream linear FPS games today. Frankly though, I'd love to see how an Enemy Territory mode would turn out.
The Ugly Barnacle Then stop commenting on things with self contradictions and don't say one thing and totally contradict yourself in the same fucking comment. It's useless. Get educated, ffs. I don't hang around astro-physics videos commenting shit of which I know nothing about. Jesus....
TheVanillatech I do know what Enemy Territory is. I just mentioned my two cents on how it would turn out if it was implemented into TNO. Machine Games didn't think a multiplayer was necessary, likely because the market is saturated with that enough already and they couldn't work it out somehow. And then you respond and throw a fit for no reason whatsoever as if I took a shit on your family's legacy. Seems like you're the one that needs to be educated.
The Ugly Barnacle The reason Enemy Territory was so succesful, was because it was built on the foundations of the Quake III engine, the greatest multiplayer game ever made. All they had to to was get the balance right, create some great maps and game modes and the rest fixed itself. The weapons in TNO are already amazing, the engine is as servicable as any other current engine out there and suits indoor and outdoor areas equally as well. It would be a massive success. The reason they didn't implement a multiplayer mode was that Starbreeze Studios was extremely small when they started working on TNO. Zenimax even gave them extra financing to recruit more staff to finish the game, and it still took them the full 3 years. They simply didn't have the time to get Multiplayer in there and tested, and the CEO of MachineGames said in his original pitch that TNO would be a single player only game as they wanted to concentrate on making the SP experience the best it could be. I was just wondering if an Enemy Territory expansion would be released after the game came out. I was hope The Old Blood would have it, but it didn't. Now it looks like it isn't going to happen. Which is a damn shame, because I would play the shit out of it. And if you ever shit on my families legacy again, I will find you... and I will kill you.
Awesome words from 2GD, reat guy. Great to watch, does anyone know what Toxic says at 51:20 btw? If so would be greatly appreciated if you reply and let me know, thanks!
Vo0 won the most CPL Painkiller stops and took home slightly more cash, but Fat won the "$1 mil finals" (total purse, ie 1st was 250k or something) against Vo0 live on MTV, so take your pick I guess.
how tragic. so fatal1ty gave all his best an won 4 out of 5 games but toxic took 1 game which was enough points wise to win in the end? can anyone clear me up? not exactly sure what else to make of the brackets gotfrag.com/quake/story/35768/?spage=2
I don't think so, he has a company now (that employs toxic if correct) and he was the best back then so he don't have to prove anything today, unlike toxic who still plays and dont win any tournaments.
I'm not even American but I think it's retarded to call the audience "racist" or "biased" because they cheer for Fatal1ty. Most of them are American, why shouldn't they want their country to win?
videogame history right here! toxic getting psyched out by fatal1ty's crowd, gets a few words of support from a quake veteran and comes back with the humilitation plays on the last map. lovely moment when the crowd goes completely silent.
My god i miss those days...! :) Toxic is freaking out of this world. I hope ID makes another great game and we get back to this awesome tournaments...
How about Quake Live?
rikzz0r its kinda old, i know and i understand im still playing with QL but they have to realese something new, but i love QL. like Q4 was before i think if they realase a new quake everyone comes back with the oldschool players, and the playerbase stands up again.
Steel series Reflex
Goofy ass I have more faith for Toxikk, I back it up Early Access, will be making videos, it seems more developed.
Goofy ass Warsow
I'm not a gamer, but I think this is quite exciting to watch. A lot of tension going on there. They should broadcast this on ESPN.
Now in 1440p, a match from 9 years ago, gotta love pc gaming.
4K has been around on PC since 1996.
@@TheVanillatech lol what? Even if we look past the illogic of no monitor or GPU being able to get anywhere near 4K, next to no renderers from 1996 supported 4K either nor any OS, so not even technically is that possible.
@@ThisBirdHasFlown iD Tech 2. If you don't KNOW, then don't reply? It's a good general rule to follow.
Great to see old matches like this. I loved doing that event. We set it up on the CBS sports studio on the Pier 6 I think. Fun event.
Oh how satisfying it felt that Toxic made the fatal1ty fanbase shut the fuck up, sweet relief!
When I see pro fps gamers these days, I have to wonder how they became so when their game play looks so close to mine and their kills don't look like much of an achievement or "OOOOHHHH" moment. When I see the Quake game champs though, I am so impressed.
Skill curve man. It's all about technical skills in eSports and CS:GO definitely lacks in that area.
rikzz0r from all of the fps out there you go and choose the one which has a really high skill curve
Play Quake so you'll know what I mean.
rikzz0r yeah dude, quake is a whole other level of skill by comparison.
rikzz0r
While technical skills are of course crucial, being able to "read" your opponents mind (fighting gamers call it yomi) and having extremely good appraisal skills are what truly separates the best from the very good. What really amazes me in Quake 1 on1 isn't so much the aim (you kind of expect it to be near perfect after all), but the mind games and lightning fast decision making. Almost like in a good old Street Fighter match.
I'm gonna cry seeing this again. This is the origin of pro gaming boys and girls. I was not there to experience it, bu this is HISTORY to me, and it takes me aback to see how far we've come.
Schiff Granger esports in general with revenue and familiarity has improved over time. Though I feel like games are becoming less and less interesting to play comletitively :/
How far HAVE we come tho? Todays Pro-gaming consists of LOL, CSGO, Overwatch and Starcraft 2 (the last one is actually interesting to watch). We have gone BACKWARDS as far as I am concerned. They started with interesting games like Quake 1 & 2, Unreal Tournament and Starcraft. But yet we have evolved backwards to shitty crap like the games above. There is just no entertainment value in either LoL or CSGO. Overwatch is kind of fun to watch, cause of all the bugs and brokenness in maps, heroes and gameplay.
*This* is how you make a multiplayer FPS game. Just your gun, a health bar, your keyboard, your mouse, and an entire arena of enemies to frag.
In your case, you wouldn't need any guns for everyone to die.
And jumping trought the whole map with killer speed.
crisis dueling was much better. this game is susceptible to spawn killing RNG, and flat out spawn rushing. the controlled crisis dueling allowed players to restack an even amount of health before eachother start the next frag. far more controlled and skill based. but I respect the quake players for their focus on pure gameplay.
watching this really makes cod multiplayer look so easy. Not having to worry about health packs and weapon zones to control
1440p Is absolute badass quality
Yo. How is 1440p even possible?
TransparencyDigital You don't know much about definition and resolutions do you ? it's about encoding not just hardware, I can encode videos in 4K resolution and thats considered Ultra high def for TV. HD goes all the way up to 8-9K, and the files are absolutely massive for even just 10 minutes of recorded video.
Typing "gg wp" when they are sitting right infront of each other :D
So satisfying to hear the crowd shut the fuck up in the last map.
I like it when they play out the entire time, even if a comeback is simply not doable, then the final score properly represents the game play throughout the entire map.
1:21:30 lol "Stick him a minus!"....."boo"
2GD himself made that comment!
33:56 love that line from 2gd, i'd say it would be in my list of most iconic esports moments :-)
Good old 120hz monitors :D
What happen to playing ol'skool FPS games like this, all I've been seeing and hearing is Call of Duty and Battlefield.
Unreal tournament is going to be an esport coming in the fall ( hopefuly ) atleast esports announced it would be. Also, counterstrike is still definitely considered an old school skill based fps.
Cody Snyder oh and quake live, but I don't know how the scene is now adays.
I dont mind cs:go and halo 3 but I wish these types of games were more popular, warsow and quake live tournaments are sometimes fun to watch but they arent very popular
***** Still though, what happen to ol'skool FPS nowadays?
hassantv100 Well UT its coming back and I dunno if Doom its going to support MP...
This shit was EPIC. Toxic truly deserved the title - hands down.
The original video was the first one that I've seen,showing an e-sports tournament. After TH-cam had support for 720p videos back in the beginning of 2009, I decided to enhance that video with better ingame graphics in 720p. Back then there was a 10 min limit and i had to split the videos in 10 parts.After i got an unlimited time from YT and with its new 180p option, I decided to "remaster" my "old" videos and put them all together. Q4 is still being played today by a few, check the the info :)
For anyone that wonders why Fatal1ty started this final with one map disadvantage, watch this video th-cam.com/video/IZQAE4a1uPo/w-d-xo.html They already played against each other in the Upper Bracket - "Round 2".
We always play quake 3 demo at school lol
GGs, i rem watching this back in the day, I was like 16 years old and addicted to quake4 dueling, i thought toxic was a GOD irl and ingame aha.. man I miss arena fps gaming so fun, this was way better then qlive and cs:go. I miss it
Frank Franky Try the game warsow
Why do you think this is better than qlive?
"its quiet in the studios" LOL
Crowd so damn disrespectful
What a chad
This is true gaming not that call of duty you see nowadays
Going down in history as the best quote from James "2GD" Harding: "STICK HIM ON MINUS!"
Still better than Quake Champions.
i didn't like how when toxic got a kill the crowd was silent, i felt sad :(
What did you expect? The only thing i hated about the Fatality it is his fanbase. SO annoying and disrespectfull to other player, even if they are BETTER than Fatality. Anyway that was gg.
Toxic was another level of Quake player. Toxic was the champion and Fatal1ty was the underdog....will you cheer for your champion if he literally wins almost every games for how many years?
Well check the records, Fatal1ty has MORE gaming experience under his wings, he plays SMARTER than Toxic, and he has won more games than toxic during history. TBH im swedish but i was rooting for Fatal1ty, cause i KNOW he was and IS the better player. Toxic got lucky and got the last map of choice, they should have picked a random map for the tie-breaker tbh.
@@Pejje85 lol, you know he was better? He was CLEARLY not better in q4. Check toxjq's stats, fatal1ty didnt do that well. Stop cheering for "what you think" is the best player only lol.
And toxjq (icTOXIC) is still active to this date, ftw :) Terminator ftw.
Well Q4 might not be everyone's favourite and Fatal1ty is definitely a Marmite player (you either love him or hate him) but damn I love watching Quake duels in LAN tournaments - where not only the pace is furious but you know there's top tier tactics going on too. All these crazy rails and rockets coming out when you're timing multiple items and trying to win position wars, fuck that :p
Yea, I originally uploaded this video in 1440p back in 2011. But after processing my video, YT displayed only 1080p as the maximum quality option. I'm surprised to see 1440p as an option now.
46:55 lol at the tiger on his screen ;p
he always had his tiger on tournaments - not kidding :D
agreed i never played this game was always a cs guy but you gota respect these players this is some insane reactions.
Theirs so much skill and nuance in quake it's insane. It's right up there with cs. Anyone ever heard of the angel clan. From quake 3. ^Dark^Angel^ dude was beast.
being good used to be cool, now good players are told to go outside...
Never played q4, but the movement looks very cool.
what i forgot about: q4 has some sort of promod, called q4max, its highly customizable but does not use a different movement-mod like cpma/osp did.
Rewatched. Enjoyed every second.
I see them using crouch a lot during bunny hopping. Does it give them additional boost? I don't think I've seen that in Quake III.
yes quake 4 had a number of new features such as crouchsliding which made you able to keep your speed around corners and then if timed correctly would give u a boost when jumping out back into your strafe jump.
Cause the new kids on the block found the strafe and U jumping to hard to master. Pathetic...
1:21:27 I love what 2GD yells
thanks for the upload man, it was extreme fun watching it ..even though I should have been preparing for my university exam xD
Thanks alot for posting!
Hello, I remade this video with the missing Fatal1ty POV Demos and at 2160p
4k60: th-cam.com/video/4HAeJZN4cbo/w-d-xo.html
4k30: th-cam.com/video/GcMEP0UIcqA/w-d-xo.html
4k30:th-cam.com/video/C9zcm1O1UCs/w-d-xo.html (no casting/in-game sounds)
Hope you enjoy!
Why would we want to see the losers POV?
tox pov?
The graphics are turned up on the spectators computer to appeal to the audience, the players probably have their configs set up way different.
1080p HD, Right ?!?...when I tried to get bigger screen, its like I´m in nintendo -85 again...soo, no, its not HD
that moment when i realised its Joe Miller, the LCS commentator
what mouses are they both using?
This reminds me SO much of Quake 3 Arena..
what was the point of the first best two out of three if it didn't count? was It just a friendly?
seems like shotgun fell out of favor, how come?
Whats the song name?!
Which model/brand of monitors they were using?
Is that dman from the EU-LCS.
not Deman its Joe
had they have config?
Quake is the way to go for FPS, not something like CS:GO or CoD.
set to 1440p, video went smooth.. tried 144p for comparison, INSTA LAG
Is there still someone in the servers today?Or they are empty as the doom 3 servers?
+Martin Dimitrov Last i checked there were 2 servers.
My laptop blue screened and shutdown when trying 1440p. I guess I will never see anything that clear. :(
Why didn't anyone make a movie about Fatal1ty? :D
"as soon as he gets that frag that frag everyone looks for while they're playing this game"
funniest brainfuck ever...
Man back in the day I used to watch the guys at the pc shop play this. I was always an mmo gamer.. man did I miss out on a lot of fun! What quake you guys reccomend I get into to try to live some of this glory lol?
Quake 1 or Quake 2
will fatal1ty ever start competing again?
that guy in the background "YES" everytime he gets a mg kill lmao everyone knows the mg is way better in q4
how come? I've never played q4
Am I the only person who prefered Q4 to Q3?
+daharris85 yes
nope
Q4 Slide FTW. q4max 0.82 and GTX 0.72b. My favorite servers were outhouse and 120FPS Duel
No, Q4 was better than quake 3, but it was not good. The best quake was quake 2 then original Quake then the fourth one and so on...Quake 2 even has the BEST maps, wondering if they are gonna bring any of them into QC
What's the difference? Quake 4 looks like quake 3 with crouch sliding.
If you want to get into something you should start with quake live clan arena and free for all. It's not the most core, that would be Quakeworld tdm with it's hardcore strats, Q3/QL ctf for teamwork, and duel for the 1v1 purists, but Quakelive clan arena is probably the most accessible mod.
q4 had crouchsliding which q3 did not have.
q3 had cpma/osp on the other hand, which q4 did not had.
heavy phrantic game in the end, loved to watch that !
Well the guy who won more tourneys in QuakeLive is in that clan: SK-Rapha. Maybe they where just using a fake clan-tag.
That's not really true. Fat won his map pick (Placebo Effect) in the 1st bo3 and the 2nd bo3, he just managed to steal Tox's map (Phrantic) in the 1st series but not the 2nd.
I miss the old days
First I was playing HalfLife DM and Cstrike 1.6
then Day of Defeat and Quake3
then Quake4 and ET =)
now Quakelive and ET sometimes.. and CoD BO and MW3 on PS3 :D changed to PS3 player^^
kind of weird seeing them leave so many important items up, i think toxic did it like 6 times on placebo effect.
what country was this?
Why do they have CRT monitors?
because flat screens were not available in 2006
Because of their response time and refreswh rates are much superior to a flat screen
Holy shit, it's Joe Miller!
I didnt know Chris Puckett used to do Quake games lol.
Lmao, back when Joe Miller still occasionally went by Dusty... the good ol' days
Wth happened to fatality at the end? That second to last match was awesome!
I find it rude when they cheer for him, when they know no one is there to cheer for Toxic.
ever heard a homecrowd of a Soccermatch????
Not excactly, I meet him in Quake 4 Demo MP DK-DeathRow Clan.
That is how i wanted to add him!
He has his own Gaming shop!
it´s called ˝Fatal1ty Gaming Gear˝!
Quake 5 with the IDtech 5 engine... It would be so beautiful O.O
Look at those score of matches that actually matter. I have a feeling that john simply bought his wins. And why not? He got his 15 minutes of fame(beat tox, omg), johan got more cash, fans watched more matches. Everyone is happy!
You know, if you combine the Rocket Louncher & Railgun in that order, you´l get ˝Combo Kill˝!
Quake world and quake live are free btw
Wonderful! :-)
I miss days when pickups on IRC was active :( Quake 3 osp, etc!
omg thats joe "stop calling me joe joe miller miller" miller
good upload ofcourse, one of the best matches in quake history.. but why do u upload this 5 years after the game, when q4 is dead?
Didnt fatality won more rounds there?
That's what I was wondering. Why does Toxic win the match with only 2 map victories, when Fatality already had 3 map victories? I really don't understand...
***** Because Toxic had already beaten Fatal1ty in the groupstage, so he came from the lower bracket. Thats why Toxic only had to win one bo3 while Fatal1ty had to win two, so after he won the first one the final was "even" so to speak.
best of luck to you both!
I still remember my disapointment when I first saw Q4. How shitty it was. How did they managed to screw a game like that. Damn...
***** Quake 4 was as single player game first. The multiplayer was never going to match Quake III. Nothing ever has, even in 2015. Carmack himself admitted it was a glorious accident on how amazing Q3 was in terms of engine mechanics and how the game flowed. He called Quake III his best work ever. Consider that iD didn't make Quake 4, too.
I enjoyed Quake 4 as a successor to Quake II. It had awesome graphics, great guns, plenty of atmosphere and it was a challenging game. Compared to the other single player FPS games at the time, it was right up there at the top.
And sure, the Q4 multiplayer was nowhere near as good as Quake 3's, but I think the only thing that might have been able to come close would be if MachineGames had included and "Enemy Territory" multiplayer mode for their Wolfenstein New Order. I still can't understand WHY they didn't...
TheVanillatech They didn't want to shoehorn a multiplayer mode for The New Order like most other mainstream linear FPS games today.
Frankly though, I'd love to see how an Enemy Territory mode would turn out.
The Ugly Barnacle
Then stop commenting on things with self contradictions and don't say one thing and totally contradict yourself in the same fucking comment. It's useless. Get educated, ffs.
I don't hang around astro-physics videos commenting shit of which I know nothing about. Jesus....
TheVanillatech I do know what Enemy Territory is. I just mentioned my two cents on how it would turn out if it was implemented into TNO. Machine Games didn't think a multiplayer was necessary, likely because the market is saturated with that enough already and they couldn't work it out somehow.
And then you respond and throw a fit for no reason whatsoever as if I took a shit on your family's legacy. Seems like you're the one that needs to be educated.
The Ugly Barnacle
The reason Enemy Territory was so succesful, was because it was built on the foundations of the Quake III engine, the greatest multiplayer game ever made. All they had to to was get the balance right, create some great maps and game modes and the rest fixed itself. The weapons in TNO are already amazing, the engine is as servicable as any other current engine out there and suits indoor and outdoor areas equally as well. It would be a massive success.
The reason they didn't implement a multiplayer mode was that Starbreeze Studios was extremely small when they started working on TNO. Zenimax even gave them extra financing to recruit more staff to finish the game, and it still took them the full 3 years. They simply didn't have the time to get Multiplayer in there and tested, and the CEO of MachineGames said in his original pitch that TNO would be a single player only game as they wanted to concentrate on making the SP experience the best it could be.
I was just wondering if an Enemy Territory expansion would be released after the game came out. I was hope The Old Blood would have it, but it didn't. Now it looks like it isn't going to happen. Which is a damn shame, because I would play the shit out of it.
And if you ever shit on my families legacy again, I will find you... and I will kill you.
Awesome words from 2GD, reat guy. Great to watch, does anyone know what Toxic says at 51:20 btw? If so would be greatly appreciated if you reply and let me know, thanks!
Fatality always looses on this map because there's no rail for him. Evil basically steamrolled him there. Toxic steamrolls him here. It's obvious.
Vo0 won the most CPL Painkiller stops and took home slightly more cash, but Fat won the "$1 mil finals" (total purse, ie 1st was 250k or something) against Vo0 live on MTV, so take your pick I guess.
Isn't quakelive dead as in right now?
how tragic. so fatal1ty gave all his best an won 4 out of 5 games but toxic took 1 game which was enough points wise to win in the end?
can anyone clear me up? not exactly sure what else to make of the brackets gotfrag.com/quake/story/35768/?spage=2
Toxics face when he was losing looked so defeated, I think he went on tilt sometimes and doesn't quite have Fatalitys winning mental state
Toxic is one of the most clutch players, he always remains calm.
I reccomend QuakeWorld, Quake2, Quake3, Quake4 and QuakeLive. :) But to be honest you should try QuakeLive, it has the largest user-base at this time.
Is Fatal1Ty also playing ? Havent seen him a long time...
I don't think so, he has a company now (that employs toxic if correct) and he was the best back then so he don't have to prove anything today, unlike toxic who still plays and dont win any tournaments.
What's toxic using to play? o.o
He's got his hand so high up, looks wierd.
I'm not even American but I think it's retarded to call the audience "racist" or "biased" because they cheer for Fatal1ty. Most of them are American, why shouldn't they want their country to win?