Power HD 20kg vs Annimos 20kg - Which servo is telling the truth?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ก.พ. 2020
- Let's see which one of these Amazon best servos lives up to its torque claims. Also applies to their 23kg 25kg 30kg and 35kg versions.
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Note: Power HD is mounted slightly higher since it is longer and did not fit exactly in the slot. Doesn't affect torque numbers though.
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Glad I just watched this. I was just about to order an Annimos 25kg servo for my RC.
I have used the Power HD 20kg Waterproof Servo for 5 years. I have a 4 year old one in my Axial Wraith, KNOWN for eating Servos.... In 4 years I've NEVER had any issues with it!!
I'll ALWAYS recommend it.
Carmine ✈🚂🚙
Wow wow wow!!!!! This is a great comparison!!! Now I know which one I'm going to order to have a few in the parts box!!! Thank you
Thanks for all your hard work on these video's!
Awesome review and just what I was hoping for since I use the HD power 20kg. Definitely will be picking up the 23kg version. Once again fabulous job. Keep them coming.
Right on. Helps us too. One thing we wanted to mention too is the Power HD keeps pulling hard. The Annimos decreases pull with each and every pull as it heats up.
Exocaged RC did a servo test and the 20kg power hd beat the 23kg power hd. I'd check it out before you buy the 23kg but either one is a good buy. I went with the all alum case power hd lw-25mg. I love it so far!
Thanks for this great servo testing vid. Awesome info
Awesome stuff, thanks for the knowledge
Powerful test!! What is the name for this instrument to test both servo?
Thanks for the test Francis, great info!
Right on. We get a commission when someone buys an Annimos servo but... we will never recommend that again.
Hey buddy thanks for all the videos
Any any good servo for bashing ? Under 50 usd ?
Cheers
I just received the 20kg Annimos in the mail 3 days ago. I'm returning it for the Power HD. Thanks for this video.
Right on. That is our goal. Measure, share, inform.
thanks for doing this test, looks like power hd for me!
Loving the servo reviews so far. Interesting seeing how they stack up. Curious why the rig changed in the middle of the test between the 2 servos? There were 3 or 4 variables changed in between the 2 tests? I know we aren't trying to fly a rocket to the moon or anything but consistency between testing makes the results more viable and useful. Keep up the good work and please keep the servo reviews coming.
ahh yes, the main difference is the power hd servo is mounted a little bit higher than the annimos. The reason is our servo mount hole is a hair tight and the Power HD servo will not fit unless it is force in. We've done it before and it scratches the servo and may squeeze the internals a bit. Readings are the same though as what we got here. So we mounted the servo a little higher with just two lower mounting bolts.
Can you do a micro servo test with the emax, savox 0257 and reefs 99? Looking for a more powerful servo for the scx24. Love the channel btw!
Could you test some Hobbystar Servos? I'm looking at the HS-6912HV Brutal Servo from RCJuice
Great work, again.
Have you try with a different 20kg Animos servo ?? This one may be broken ??
Good morning is it possible to operate the servo on HIV 7.4 and will it break over time? Thanks👍
What would I need to run this on my Trx4 sport I have a 1080 esc bec set to 7.4 hopefully that’s ok the power hd
I burned up a stock Reedy servo in my Element, and replaced it with the Annimos. I always kinda thought it seemed similar to stock. The Element no has a savox 1230, 500oz at 6 volts (allegedly!!). Maybe test it soon? It does the job well. Thanks for the info my man. 👊🍻👍
Hey...wanted to find out what size bolt tread does the pw HD 20kg take?
Thank you for doing this test
I have 2 of the 35kg of the DSServo that you call Annimos in my E Revo 2.0 and I'm not so sure they have the 30kg that they claim to have @6V.
Hey!! Love your videos. Will you do a video of the 25kg animos servo plz?? Or have you already done that one??
We're doing the 35kg and another one that's 46kg. Can anyone guess what's going to happen? :)
Which one draws less amps?
Which one centers best without chattering?
Another honest test. Have been running PowerHD for 5 years now. The 20kg I stripped a gear after a big fall, but the 23kg and the aluminum body crawler versions have been very reliable.
Can you test out some JX servos, they have a 12v 46kg and now bigblock (taller) 70kg! models in coreless C70 and brushless b70 versions.
Should i get this for a torque 1/10 on road touring car?
My experience has been the 2 power.hd 20kg.servos I tried barely worked, took both out after 5mins of use. Have 10 animos and only.had an issue with 1, died after 2hrs of use.
I’ve got a KS-360 in my SD-SMT10 project. Came in an eBay score, other than that I run HexFlys in my wife’s and my SCX10s and in my Vaterra. I don’t comp so mine work ok. I did a number on my first HF after a huge tumble onto concrete. But I’ve got 2.2 RC4WD mudbashers so as anyone knows, that’s a monster tire. We’ll see how it holds up with that and 7700kv Castle system.
Thanks for showing the measurings in kg/cm as well. We in Europe are not used to the US items.
For sure yes. Extra work but worth it.
Great Test! Thanks a lot.
Have the LW-20MG installed in my TRX4 . Can I run it with 7,4v from my Hobbywing 1080 without damaging it? In the specs the operating voltage is limited to 6,6 volts. Thanks for helping out!
2 people from RC Facebook group told me it's OK. But maybe shorten the servo life than normal use.
How has the long term reliability held up on these?
You should do the test with 2 or 3 servos of the same type to see if its an isolated issue or all of them got the same results!
Yes I would like to see 3 tested back to back to see what the consistency is of these amazon servos. Can't go wrong with those power HD ones tho, what a great bang for ur buck at 1/3rd the cost of other brand name servos. How has the long term reliability held up on these?
Will that power hd work well in an arrma granite?
Still digging these reviews! One critique is that the power HD was in the upper holes on your rig, as you can see this made the rod too short and consequently the servo arm was not perpendicular. A small difference in leverage, but you've taken pains to give accurate measurements and this throws it off slightly. Also, I think it would be great if you could frame your shot to show the voltage below the overlaid text. Great videos, thanks!
Good eye. yes, the power hd servo is a hair tight and it wouldn't go in the slot without force. So we mounted in the upper hole.
Good news is we have footage in the normal spot and the readings are about the same.
That was a Great Comparison Video! The Results Speak for itself. Power HD, has been the Diamond in the Rough for Years! I Use them a lot! They are Powerful and Priced Good!
This confirms what a lot of folks were suspecting. Even us. We were using Annimos 20kg for a year for a couple of vehicles and they sucked!!!
Bought an Annimos servo when it was first recommended, never bought another. Most my servos are Power HDs, 20kg and 23kg units. Even run their micros (3 for $45 shipped) on 2 of my TRX4s and my white TRX6.
I didn't know Power HD had mini or micros. I'll keep that in mind if my minis ever go out in my old TRX4....I'm absolutely amazed they still work AND that's at the Mamba X's max 8 volts that I run everything at. The TRX4 box says "DEMO"...that how old it is. Hahaha
I have the 25kg Annimos and its not too bad, curious what the numbers are on that one! Thanks for another awesome video! RC Review is the best!
Basically, throughout they're line, they measure 60% of what they claim.
Sweet video!
I run the 20kg animos in a brassed out trx4 defender, trx 4 sport, and gen8. I really have no complaints when used with the HW 1080 esc. The servos really do a reasonable job and the price is ridiculously cheap. I went with a 1230 sg on the capra though. It really benefits from a little more umfff.
I agree with you. The 20kg variant is better then the stock Traxxas one and burn less often. Also the traxxas 2075x is like 5 times more expensive. On my trx4 i'm with the 20kg for 2 years now and outside of gear slop it works perfect. (bought it for $10 on banggood)
PowerHD is the servos I've always used when replacing servos. I have a PowerHD DW25LV in my TRX and run the PowerHD LW-20MG in anything else. I've not had to replace any 1/5 scale servos yet but I believe my Super Rock Rey will need one soon.
I run the 65kg in my Dbxle and it's been great so far! Right now im trying to decide between a JX brushless 46kg hv and the power HD 40kg. I was gonna go with the JX cause I wasn't sure if the power HD 40kg one was more for crawlers cause it had that listed and the reviews were from crawler owners
@@cwatson42785 Crawler people like the higher torque and speed. Just look at the speed and torque to know if it is ideal for your application. Doesnt really matter if it ia being used in crawlers because any servo will work with any RC (as long as it is the correct plug and works with digital or analog and the correct scale). Higher speed just means it will move the wheels from lock to lock faster and the torque is just how effective the servo is under load. If you can, in any application, go for the highest speed and highest torque. You can always turn down the speed of the servo, you cant turn it up if you are using it to its max spec. One other thing to watch out for is the voltage input it requires or suggests as some will be a LV (low voltage) meaning it can and probably will burn out if the BEC in your ESC is set too high. For example, you have a LV servo rated for no more than 6 volts and your ESC is delivering 7.4 volts, thats no good. Then you have HV (high voltage) servos that can be from 6 volts and up. Most servos are ideal on 7.4 volts and you will often times get very near the peak of the servos performance. There are other servos that are direct power accepting up to 14.8 volts directly from the battery, but they are often in the multiple hundreds of dollars in price.
@@SebastianLong Hey Bro thanks for the info! I went with the jx 46kg hv brushless one for the reeper but I plan on getting that power HD one too to try out. This one is a hv one so I'll run it at 8.4v. I had a budget Amazon 35kg (30$) servo and while it turns the wheels but I noticed it doesn't center it up the greatest on the Reeper so it ends up driving all over the place. I'll keep you posted on how this one is as it's only 60$ and I've had good luck with jx in the past. I just put the 36kg jx HV servo in my kraton EXB and I'm happy with it and that's only on 7.4v. I should probably turn it up to 8.4 being that it's a HV servo. I'll keep you posted. Hey Lane are you on IG? And appreciate the advice as always brotha and taking the time
@@cwatson42785 The Power HD DW25LV is discontinued. I should have bought more as it is still working fine in my TRX4. My first comment was from 2 years ago, so that tells you how good Power HD is. Brushless servos work very good and are very long lasting. Pay a little more up front, but in the long run you actually save more because you arent replacing the servos often. I recently got into a fight with a big rock with my Losi LMT and the stock servo broke all the tabs off. The servo works well, i dont know if they sell a new cap for it but i should look it up. I have a dead servo that looks like the cap will fit, but i wont know until i try it. Either way, it wont be a loss if it doesnt work. Lol
Guess I'm swapping servos. Thanks for showing.
What about the hobbyking servo?
Good video. I run that 20kg but from a different company. I’ve never had a problem with it. Sucks to know it’s not 20kg though.
Did anyone notice how SILENT the annimos servo was? It doesn't have the characteristic digital servo whine when under load. I watched another video just now that led to the conclusion that the annimos may not even be digital. Just food for thought....
So you can run the Power HD at 7.4V?
Do test on the turnigy servo
Good to see, you actually get what you pay for. When you buy a Power HD Servo 😎
Hi interesting video! I come here searching because of my servo. I saw many videos of you before buying my gen8, it's my first RC. l used very little, I have it since July 10 2020 and yesterday the servo only goes to the left and don't return. And now just goes nowhere. Did you know if it's a servo issue. Did you ever hear about this. Here were l live have no local stores to replace it, l have to buy it online and wait about month and a half 😔. Really appreciate your knowledge about my problem. Thanks
that sounds like a servo issue for sure.
I have been running exclusively power hd servos! the 25kg has a full cnc case and comes with a two year warranty!!
Which servos are the most silence for my 3300kv 550 Hobbywing motor? I dont mean these too because I think they loud. Thank you!
Reefs 444 or 555 is good.
I have the ds3218pro and it barely able to turn my kraton exb tores while standing still. A bit sad that we get lied we all think DS servos are good we recommand them but when we actually test them they are junk.. but i have to say they never failed on me. One runs on my kraton 4s and its perfect and really fast but on my exb it struggles
Francis, you should check out the newer version of that servo that came out last year - Ds3218pro - The 23.5 kg version has the stainless steel gears, instead of all brass. I have several of the Ds3218pro and they are way better than the Ds3218mg Brass gear model. Using both of these Side by side in a rig the difference is very noticeable in strength and speed.
Will do. Appreciate the intel.
Keeping them honest, love it
Great video!!!
Well reviewed
My powerhd 23wp is rated at 6.6v and my speed controller (hw 1080) can run at 6v or 7.2. Would it be safe to run the servo at 7.2 or would it burn it up?
7.2 will be absolutely fine.
thank you!
I have 25kg Annimos and 20kg PowerHD. The Annimos has less torque overall and that torque decreases dramatically when the angle to move is only a few degrees, for instance for less than 5 degrees. Under that condition, the torque on the PowerHD decrease also, but much less. It would be very informative if you conduct torque tests with small angle command. It would reveal how servo motors are accurate under load. Under load, the servomotors never reach their commanded position. Moreover, the motor overheat since it constantly try to reach the commanded position but has not enough torque to reach it. For instance, in my test, the Annimos draw a steady current of 1 Amp because it never reach the commanded position. Under the same condition, the PowerHD draws 0.3 Amp and the error angle is less (it is closer to the commanded position than the Annimos).
Could you please test the 25Kg version of the Power HD (LW-25MG). It's twice the price of the 20Kg version on Ali Express but I'd pay that if it was actually putting out those numbers
Noted. The good news is the voltage is mentioned in the commentary and labeled in the video. And the real data we are observing is the ounces of torque.
Another informative review.. Sucks about the animos servo .. I've got a power hd 25kg aluminium case in my Capra and seems great so far... only issue its it has a set throw so just can't quite get it to full lock with steering knuckle trimmed and bent drag link...only misses by a hair.
If I hadn't modified the steering it would be fine. I will swap it out and use in another truck so it will not go to waste.
Cheers mate 👍
Right on. We're bummed too as we've recommended the Annimos so much to others. And we've been using it for a year on our Element RC and it keeps stalling after the first minute. Much lost fun time and opportunity.
Maybe I got lucky but I've had the annimos under my tank "gen8" for 7 months now and never had an issue ! But..... I'm gonna get that he cause it matches the body! Lol noob..... Great vids man 👍
@@slowburn_1725 maybe you did get lucky, but your experience is your experience, similarly a lot of people complain about the Savox, but personally I've had an excellent run out of them, with or without a Bec they just confidently turn the the wheels every time..
Cheers 👍
Test the power hobby 760mg servo
Great testing, dude! Thanks a lot! 😃
Amazing
Have 6 of the Animos, never any issues, but ordered a PowerHD after watching this. The PowerHD servo reboots any system I attach it too, even Arduino. Sending it back.
Same here. We have 2 annimos 20kg and they keep working. But they seem so weak, even worse than stock Traxxas. We put a better ESC and even a BEC to solve this issue.
After performing this test, we finally found the reason. This servo is crap and with every pull, it gets weaker until it cools down.
@@RCReviewChannel My Animos servos do not seem to have any heating or lack of power issues that I have seen, and my rigs are heavy. I'll do a test on one and see what power we get, But the Power HD, 100% bad.
I absolutely love your vids but man since you started the servo testing your audio layering has went downhill. What program are you using to edit? Is there a separate audio adjustment per clip/audio input? If not I’d start recording the servo tests without your commentary and add it later so we can hear you. Just wishing I could catch everything you said without the servos drowning your voice out. 😒😞
Great feedback. There's so many of these videos we haven't been paying attention to the double commentary. We want the viewer to hear the servos but not the double comments.
Just bought a annimos of one of your reviews were you recommend it and said it was fantastic!!!! Now you say there crap 😂 what's going on?
For $15, it's still a good deal.
But we built a servo tester and discovered they are lying to us! Sorry. But the PowerHD 20kg is a much better choice.
@@RCReviewChannel I understand, thanks for the reply and the honest test. At least we know now👍👍👍
fyi - first servo was not a 90 degree pull on the servo horn. so the number would be different.
You are correct. We need a rematch. People are basing purchases on these results. To say it doesn't matter...well it does.
For the price, the Power HD servo is a good buy. 👍🏼
just saw power hd has a 40kg in this model too ....POWER HD WH-40KG
Good test! Thanks for doing this.
Just to be consistent though, you should test both servos in the same position.
Great point! Yes most definitely.
@@RCReviewChannel Actually, if you really want to get all sciency, you should test each servo in both positions to see if you get the same results or if not, try to determine a consistent correction factor to standardize it to all the servos you test in the regular position.
Can you guys add in a durability review to test the gears?
A little too hard to do a stress test that is repeatable.
@@RCReviewChannel yeah, would need a repeatable radial impact. I wonder about an impact driver and varying supply voltage or one that has multiple setting for torque/impact rate. Maybe even a drill and using the clutch... what about a digital torque wrench and simply loading the servo until failure? The ones I use at work will display max torque reached. What about a disassembly to simply review materials of construction? Just some ideas! Love the content! Thanks!
@@theclaxton They buy most of their servos. It will be very expensive to destroy them :(
@@nexus7138 yep, testing can be expensive
I wonder how well the “pro” version of the Annimos servo would do. The one tested is the DS3218. I have this one along with the DS3218PRO. The pro version is much faster and stronger for a few extra dollars.
The spline on the pro version is stainless not brass so I can tell this is the more basic one.
All the Annimos servos we've tried... measure at about 60% of their claims.
Good to know, thanks for the reply!
@@RCReviewChannel test the DS3218pro
Power hd actually pull more than their specs ,great servos and good price . I use 1266 and 8309 power hds and they pull above their specs and are FAST . DON'T BUY JX servos or ds 3218 etc they are rubbish. Thanks for the test.
im thankful and respect that you were honest but its still kind of disappointing to hear you have been recommending an inferior product and without proof. thank you for the video
The last one is so silent👌
I think the Annimos is kind of a hit and miss weather you get a good one or not. I run those when I know I’m gonna destroy the servo with some hardcore bashing. Some die instantly and a couple have amazed me and still are till this day strong. Shouldn’t be but is the luck of the draw on those, never ran the power hd so can’t have a say in what I think about those babies but seem nice and will now try that consistent power house
They're pretty reliable as we have two and they have not failed in a year. But they are both weak and get weaker with every minute crawling. And we're very disappointed with the false claims.
RC Review false claims are displeasing, spend money on false advertising is tuff cause there are so many people that scrape by on our hobby then get burned is a disappointment. Great review guys as always
Can you review the bluebird bls 2905? It seems way too good to be true for $68
Torque At 6.0V: 23.8 kg-cm / 330.6 oz-in
Torque At 7.4V: 29.4 kg-cm / 408.4 oz-in
Torque At 8.4V: 33.8 kg-cm / 469.5 oz-in
Speed At 6.0V : 0.068 sec / 60°
Speed At 7.4V : 0.056 sec / 60°
Speed At 8.4V : 0.049 sec / 60°
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I mean, the animos servo is $10 cheaper so.
No Brainer, guess who's Servos Are going to Sell More ...
Cheers TY.... great Technical information as Always... 🖖
Test the Fan Model 20kg, please.
Just wish they weren't so loud..
Dont think all your links are working
150oz = 4.25kg
Not very scientific if both don’t start off in a Parallel plain for the pull and also a single subject isn’t a average or overall scientific poll
It is a good enough test for the average User. If you want laboratory results you are welcome to start a test series. This is in my book a good test for the hobby rc World.
@@danielkonrad1444 Plus, If you've ever run a red one, you can literally see it struggle, with your own eyes. So glad RCR came along to confirm the mountain of anecdotal evidence that there's something fishy going on here.
Tell the truth! lmao love it.
Schön das immer und immer wieder Alles mit der linken Hand gemacht wird und immer wieder alles verdeckt wird, was soll das , nichtso schön !!
Truth is some work as tested, others fail easily. No QC on these cheapies, I’ll spend my money for value, not cheap erratic products
Power HD 20 is the absolute minimum one would need for the trail.
The 23kg Power HD...I've seen that one hit over 350oz...for the price , it's not bad at all.
I wouldn't even bother with the other one Annimos....it's junk.
Agree. Thanks for the insight. We're sad we wasted so much time running the Annimos.
@@RCReviewChannel I wouldn't...now we all know. It's definitely useful information. Thank you. There is nothing wrong with shedding light on truth and lies.
Francis, I enjoy all your testing videos...but you are making an error in I believe every servo you've tested. KG ratings on servos is generally KG-cm. 1 cm is only 0.4". You should not state the servo is making false claims when you have the rod at 1" from the servo center. You even said in some videos "move the arm closer to center to increase the torque!". Again, enjoy your videos, just don't want you to get flamed for incorrect info!
Correct. My servo arm is 1 inch long so I only measure oz in values. To get the kg cm rating, I use a translation program that is very accurate. convert-to.com/conversion/torque/convert-ozf-in-to-kgf-cm.html
So I believe my kg cm numbers are accurate to what i measure with our equipment
I bought that damn aminos kinda sucks
It says 20kg on the servo yet you speak in ounces...
Just use kg
We translate it! We test over 30 servos in this round-up so need to maintain consistency with oz/in. We take the time to translate though.
Sorry i do watch and love your vids.
I just wish the world just went metric 😂
The truth? Maybe you got a bad servo...
We have three of them now. Same. It's not a bad deal at $18, just bad claims. The Power HD is a much better product.
@@RCReviewChannel Got it, thanks for clarifying.
That’s not how science works but .... okay
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