Why I'm Not A Christian Anymore | Deconstruction | Aaron Pennington - Lead Pastor
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 พ.ค. 2023
- When we talk about the idea of "Deconstruction" in regards to faith, we're looking at those who have taken a step back from what they believe to ask why they believe what they believe and have come to the conclusion to walk away from their faith entirely. Many people who have experienced this would say they were done with the hypocrisy, done with the fakeness, done with the condemnation, done with the rules, done with the church, done with the consistent criticism of self righteous Christians, done with the Bible, and done believing in a God who would send people to hell. It can be said that many of these reasons are valid and understandable depending on someone's faith experience but it can also be said that what drove many of these people away from their Christian faith might not have made them a Christian in the first place.
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Wow. I experienced this in 2018. Satan made me think I was abandoning the "church". I was simply getting to know Him. Jesus The Christ. I have prayed for a fire for Christ. He delivered with a blow torch. True peace. Not happiness. But true peace. In Him...❤
Telling someone how they feel, and why they do things, is the definition of arrogance. Continually asserting someone who deconstructs wasn’t really devoted to a relationship with Jesus lacks compassion and wisdom. Really hurts every time I see it.
@jessicaj9743 Quoting fiction doesn't address the issue.
@jessicaj9743you lack humanity.
@jessicaj9743 cherry picking those verses is part of the problem. What about where god says he desires that none be lost? 2 Peter 3:9
Isn’t it ultimately up to him and his spirit to save us? Titus 1:1
Or is it up to us to accept and be saved?Romans 10:9-10
This is just one small point of contradictory confusion. It ultimately should be up to god to save. When rescuing someone from drowning you don’t reach out your hand and say they must grab it to be saved, no, you just grab them and save them, that’s it.
@Jessicaj9743
I can't expect you would understand what a person who deconstructs goes through, but i would like you to try.
Ask yourself one question about something that has been confusing you in the bible. Study lots of books. Learn another language so you can understand the text even. Devote yourself to accomplishing all of that for 20 yrs. Maybe live in Israel for a year and go see places and learn the history and myths and civilzations of the area.
I did. Let me know when your finished. I wont mind catching up with you. It wasnt easy learning what i was told was not true. I lost my job, my family, everything.
But at least i no longer fear hell. I dont believe in it anymore. I dont fear judgement because i dont believe in god.
I want you to understand that nobody goes into deconstruction mode without really wanting to study.
@@Chriliman talk about hypocrisy your the one cherry picking come on can't you see your own biases wait my bad biases don't exist in atheism. 😂
As a non-theist, I came to this video hoping for there to be a focus on most non-theist's reason for not going back to religion: proof of god without need for faith. Instead, we got (7 minutes in) only focus on "you probably just had a bad experience." That isn't addressing the main issue, and I understand why. It's just sad to see the same "let me help you come back to Jesus" that doesn't work for people who desire proof and logic over faith.
The thing is that we’re supposed to have faith in a story that tells us we have to have faith in the story. It’s too much of a leap; too big of an assumption. We ask for proof and we’re evil for asking. It’s an honest request: why can’t God just understand that some of us need proof?
@@JB48632pointfour Yeah, especially since god supposedly created us. If that was true, god would know that we would look for proof. It’s almost as if god isn’t real, or isn’t all-knowing…
Thank you for this viewpoint. Whether a believer or not, it's important to acknowledge that this viewpoint and thought absolutely exists and it needs to be addressed, or known how to address.
I'd also like to say that it is not wrong to ask God for proof of Himself. Gideon, in the book of Judges 6, is a believer of God and still asks for proof of Himself, and God does answer without anger or judgement or wrath.
Hebrews 11 says that anyone who wants to come to God must have faith in His existence, but it also says that He rewards those who sincerely seek Him. When questioning and asking for proof, you open yourself up to sincerely seeking because you are looking for an answer, whether out of skepticism or not.
Obviously there is some semblance of faith in asking when you ask God Himself, but there are so many sources of proof available. Lee Stroubel's book The Case for Christ is a great starting place, he was an atheist set at disproving God. But for sources that you've looked into, I would love if you would respond with your questions and arguments against them. Not that I may have an answer or rebuttal, but to give me something further to look into and understand more, for those who have your same viewpoints and questions
@@JB48632pointfour like matt diluhunnty says " fiath requires evidence proof" you dont start with faith then the proof. this kind of thinking leads to cognative bais, confirmation bias where you will looks for anything to shore up your preexisting beliefs. this is where cult thinking plays in.
Watching the top Christian scholars and professors debate Atheist and Rabbis and ex pastors brought me to longer believing.
Thanks William Lane Craig
When I was a christian, I understood that I was a sinner in need of a savior, but in hind sight that idea never really resonated with me.
It is called having a spiritual awakening & discovering the truth =)
People stop believing in Jesus realize how much bullshit it is. How Jesus wasn't even used as his name until the last 600 years. How the science and history doesn't match up to what we're learning about it. How it makes no sense for the most powerful, intelligent being to inspire a book full of books that has so many contradictions and contentions with society.
Bait and switch for sure
nobody sent me this link and nobody who knows me would ever do such a thing. The first three minutes were interesting, albeit carefully edited snippets of people giving their reasons for no longer being Christians. When I say edited, I mean they didn't really get as far as any detail as to quite why it was they had walked away. Then this sort of sermon began with "this is what we're up against" and that's when I hit stop and left it that way. "opposition and this is what you'll get!
3 seconds of his fake affect i knew her was a pastor. They talk to people like birthday clowns.
Mr. Aaron Pennington, you seem like a nice person. I'm old enough to be your mother, and I wish you wisdom. Wisdom to understand that the flaw is root deep. It's the mischaracterization of the nature of God. He is not an angry God, did not become upset at the sin nature of the mankind that He created, did not sentence Eve and all her billions of descendants to torture, did not have them "separated from God", did not suffer from an inability to forgive without the shedding of innocent blood, did not kill a son as a virgin sacrifice to appease the wrath of the deity, did not design this as a "salvation" from eternal torture, did not allow it only to those who "believe", etc. That is actually perverse. God is not like that. When you understand that the religion starts with a mischaracterization of God, then has a string of theologies that flow from that, you convert. Not deconvert. Convert. Convert to truth rather than this religion (or any other religion). The religion is pagan. And, yes, I was raised in it, then found wisdom to understand the real nature of God. I converted... away from pagan "sacrifice of the virgin to appease the wrath of the deity" thought patterns. It was freeing, simplified, refreshing, and productive. I wish you the same.
Thank you pastor :Aaron for your call to be more compassionate. I lived under the umbrella of legalism for most of the early part of my life. I'm now away from that. I'm still walking the Christian following, so I really appreciate your message of encouragement to keep walking in grace. I've been enjoying the great messages of 'grace' from such pastors as Max Lucado too. Thank you again for your forthright message of faith and encouragement to walk away from legalism and to walk more in the gracious footsteps of Jesus. God bless you and your family. Amen.
The best thing that ever happened to me was deconstruction. It led to my deconversion.
It is insulting when it is suggested that i might not have been a christian in the first place. I deeply believed. I knew the bible. I evangelized. I went on mission. I lived in Israel for a year. I graduated from an evangelical christian university. I learned Hebrew. My degree is in religious studies. In all, i was in ministry for about 6yrs. I believed. Deeply.
Then i started to ask questions. I am so glad i searched until i found the real answers.
And Paul was a Hebrew of Hebrews, a Pharisee.....Ephesians 3:5. Read it again! This is what you sound like with the list you have here. Not someone who is born again. Not someone who is submitting to the Holy Spirit. Only the Truth can set you free!
@@shannanvanhooser9233 is that you being all encouraging and stuff? How kind.
You don't seem to be addressing those that are deconstructing. You are likely correct about why some of them are deconstructing, but once the gates of review have opened, it would seem that you would need to address the actual issues that are seen the moment the gates opened, which I suspect that you can't (or don't realize is an issue). Here's some basic issues that those that are deconstructing seem to express.
1. There are falsehoods in the Bible.
This is a far cry from there being issues of presentation due to culture or other obscuring issues given the idea that God is all-knowing and caring. This issue forces some to question whether the Bible should be trusted.
2. God is depicted as being supportive of immoral actions.
This questions the general Christian narrative of God being good. Thus, the IF hell is considered to be something that God allows, then for those understanding that hell is immoral is tantamount to declaring that God is immoral or God is non-existent.
I am sure those that are deconstructing have a parade of other issues that I cannot even imagine, since, I have never accepted theological claims as being valid due to immediately understanding the claims presented to me to be falsehoods as a kid (and wondering why were the adults lying to me). However, for those that had accepted Christianity, they seem to be going through something that is far more intense a review given that they are now realizing that much of what they had accepted and has also shaped various other beliefs about the world - was predicated on fiction.
It was popular for a season but ended many people’s faith-journey for life. We walk to the beat that our social network plays, but in the end? “Deconstruction” was just a code for calculated destruction.
We only discovered that the enemy was not within politics or polemics- it was within ourselves. We were left as sheep without a shepherd.
God forgive us …
It is healthy to “deconstruct” teaching or tradition that is not from God … but this movement blew up the foundations that were given by God, instilled pride, and wrecked homes.
The disciples called out the church privately, but publicly addressed the world. We call out the church publicly, and privately address the world. We are bold in addressing sin in the church but timid when we consider our message to those outside.
I deconstructed my original religion years ago and I reconstructed it! I came back to christianity because it is the truth! Jesus is my Lord, Savior and King! My redeemer, righteousness, and salvation! My faith heals me and brings me home to God forever in his kingdom!
Any proof?
@@foureyedchick Why? What is your idea of being a Christian that is causing you misery?
Beatitudes-Blessed are:
Poor in Spirit vs. proud
Meek vs. forceful & aggressive
Hungry & Thrist for Righteousness vs. seeking your own pleasures
Merciful vs. vengeful
Pure in Heart vs. evil heart
Peace Makers vs. looking for a fight
Thank you so much for this!!! I needed it like the oxygen to remain alive. No doubt God managed the timing and the messenger. God bless!
I'd like deconversionists to try a little experiment. If you watch over many dozens of these stories (and there are that many now), you hear the phrase. "I told so and so (theists) that I no longer believed in Christianity and they were shocked" - and this is said with gravitas by all, you know, with deeply felt emotion and seriousness. Now, replace the word "Christianity" with "Harry Potter" and say it again. You know, "I told so and so that I no longer believed in Harry Potter and they were all shocked!" LOL I mean, come on! You can't be serious! It's so funny. That an entire generation takes themselves so seriously over a total fantasy trip. It's not rocket science! Religion is a fantasy! I mean, come on, a seven year old should be able to figure that out. I did.
I'm struggling to believe how we, in order to believe the word properly, must be forced to accept predetermanalism, bleiving in an all-knowing diety. How does this allow the christian as claimed to love unreservedly? To truly judge without partiality? I feel like in my finite mind, only God is truly free. How can I love somebody while at the same ignolige that God must work in that person to bring them to faith? How is it love if I've determined in my heart God must save some whom he chooses and some will not make it. How do I have free choice in that scenario to truly get to no someone for who they are? But yet without God, how can there be any purpose at all? I can judge people how they are, but then all morality breaks down, and anything is lawfull and we are nothing more than random animals.
Christ wasn't the first to talk about the myth of eternal conscious torment. That myth was established by 100 BC through intertestamental writings.
In Enoch and Judith, we already have a Hades/Gehenna with people burning alive, screams of pain, and darkness. Judith adds eternal conscious torment.
The OT doesn't talk about ECT but says in the grave there is silence (Hezekiah, David, Job, Solomon). Paul doesn't believe in Hades/Gehenna and simply said that the wages of sin is death, not eternal torment. If the afterlife for the wicked is true, then the Old Testament is useless, David et al were liars, and Christ was just another rabbi adopting the afterlife myths of his culture. .
3:25 - Shaming people from sharing their experience, on a stage, in front of any willing person... ironic.
3:39 - Summarizing people's journey to Atheism as anything but desiring provable truth. Honestly, this is the easiest way to negate tackling atheist's main concern.
5:43 - Needing to redefine a word so that you can make a point is always a red flag.
6:47 - Assuming people left Christianity because they were just "taught wrong".
6:55 - "And this time start all over with no one else, and nothing else other than Jesus" ...and him of course because otherwise you're not going to be able to figure it out.
7:17 - Again assuming (and judging) that people might've just had a "bad experience".
I could keep going, but I'll stop here.
hi is it true I am depraved and I was diseased as soon as I came out of the womb and god hated me I was the enemy of god and god butchered his son for me this is horrible
I don’t think it is. I think it’s just another religion-it’s the most popular religion in America, but it’s just another religion.
I think it’s REALLY difficult for Christians to empathize with the idea of reading the Bible without assuming that it is real or true.… including Jesus. Questioning includes questioning why Jesus was even necessary if God needed blood magic to forgive. He forgave several people in the Old Testament, so it was possible.
Much in the same way that a Christian would read the Quran to see if it’s true. Read it critically to see what the book says about their god. Deuteronomy 28 tells me the character of the Christian god… it’s incompatible with the New Testament god.
thank you for the challenge Ime afraid of the original sin because once you are born again you are heavenward.but Ime absolutley terrifiwd of god terrified of him torturing me they never taught us about grace and that we were now still sinners but we have a new name saint that sins have u heard of mark de jesus turning hearts ministries international ide be grateful for your view thank you carole
Nice bait & switch. Maybe you should credit the creators in that montage for their work you stole.
The title wasn't a bait and switch, but it cleverly used one's biases. Unfortunately, the pastor didn't see the broad issue in play.
@MyContext everyone has biases even the atheist to say otherwise is to deny the facts
@@masterjose8483
I agree. Is there some other point?
As someone considers themself spiritual, and believes in God. I honestly believe that you don't have be a Christian or religious at all. To believe that there is a God and afterlife.
By the way, the Bible says in 1st John 2:19, "They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us; but they went out that they might be made manifest, that none of them were of us." According to this scripture you were never really saved. You may have gone to church, and handed out tracks, and worn a cross, but you weren't really saved. This is NOT my opinion but God's word.
If you were talking about some other youtuber's opinion, then you could say, "Well, I think..." But we are talking about the ETERNAL, ALL-POWERFUL, CREATOR of the universe. Who says, "Can the gods of the other nations (religions) tell you the future? No! They are mere lifeless idols." But I..." and then He proceeds to give us over one thousand prophecies in the Bible to demonstrate that God's word can be trusted. He also adds over one hundred scientific facts in scripture in all fields of science that were written down, thousands of years BEFORE the great scientists of the world would discover them. For example, up to a few hundred years ago surgeons used to wash their hands in basins of water, until they discovered it became a bowl of germs. They started using running water. The Bible instructed the use of running water thousands of years earlier. Soldiers used to die from disease, until they finally figured out to do their toilet business outside the camp. The Bible thousands of years before this, instructed the Israeli soldiers to take a small shovel outside the camp and bury their waste. Doctors used to drain blood (blood-letting) from sick patients, but thousands of years ago the Bible said, the life is in the blood. It wasn't until a couple hundred years ago, that oceanographers discovered mountains rising off the ocean floor, but the Bible thousands of years ago spoke of these mountains. The Bible says, "It is God who spreads out the stars." Astrophysicists now say the very fabric of space is spreading out taking the galaxies along for the ride. Up until about five hundred years ago, astronomers thought there was about 4,000-5,000 stars. But the Bible in Genesis compares the number of stars to the grains of sand along the seashore. Astronomers now say there are at least twice as many stars as sand on all the beaches of the world. Albert Einstein in his paper on relativity stated that matter, energy, space and time itself all had a beginning. But thousands of years earlier in Genesis chapter one the Bible says, "In the beginning (a reference to time having a beginning) God created the earth (matter) the heavens (space) and said let there be light (energy). I don't want to make this so long people won't read it, but you can go any Christian bookstore and find books on the hundreds and hundreds of fulfilled prophecies, in the Bible. There were 256 totally fulfilled prophecies concerning the birth, life, ministry, and death of Christ alone. So, God in HIS word has told of science thousands of years in advance of it being discovered by the great scientific minds of the world, He has spoken prophetic utterances that have come true, over and over again, in a literal, not metaphorical sense, again, to demonstrate His authority. He is God, we are His creation. This is His world, His universe. He is sovereign. Look, it's a great deal; surrender to His only means of forgiving our sins and reconciling ourselves to HIM, Christ dying on the cross, and reap eternal life, eternal peace, eternal health, and eternal joy. OR reject His offer of pardon and receive your just punishment. I choose Jesus Christ.
For outside god their correct leave church natural tradistional shadows, None lost does wake inside I AM. ”We will take a simple little verse and show you why it is not addressed to the natural man, Ecclesiastes 3:15: “That which is, already has been; that which is to be, already has been; and God seeks what has been driven away.” The “natural man” cannot grasp that, for to him reality is based only on the evidence of the senses. The man of reason could justify the verse’s end, saying if it has any meaning then the writer must mean recurrence. The sun comes every day and the moon completes its cycle and the seasons come and go. If we took a picture of the universe today, the scientists can compute how long it will take to return to this point in the picture. So the intellectual man could justify the verse; but that is not what is meant, for it is addressed not to the man of reason or the man of sense, but to the man of Imagination. What is it all about? “That which is, already has been; that which is to be, already has been, and God seeks what has been driven away.”
People experiment with Christianity but going to church…and they listen to sermons & get info about religion. They sing songs and say a repeating prayed ( know the words by memory) Then sooner or later they get bored disillusioned deconstruct as they just had churchanity. They allowed themselves to be self programmed & brainwashed. True Christianity is having info but also reaching out to Christ in a heart fashion. The promise is if we seek Christ with all our heart we will find Him. Call on the Lord with all your heart & He will respond.
God is greater than our hearts & He sees into our heart. He knows who truly is seeking Him & those who are 1/2 hearted.
True Christianity is having an encounter with Him via the Holy Spirit. Born again spiritual rebirth to where they encounter God’s presence.
Programming brainwashing
churchanity
is not true conversion. A heart prayer to accept Christ will transform a child of darkness & make them into a child of the light in other words a Child of God.
Knowing about God is not the same as knowing or encountering Him.
These people are so proud to shout “I am no longer a Christian”….but that only shout the fact they never were a true converted Christian.
If a person goes into a church week after week but that does not make a person a Christian. Going into a barn goes not make a person a pig or cow or horse or chicken….
Put it clearly this way…I no longer believe in electricity…..they read about electricity in books…but 1000s deconstruct and shout I do not believe in electricity ha ha ha….but take one of these scoffers and let him touch a live electric wire and get SHOCKED & experience electricity…guess what….they will believe. Get people to pray from their hearts to Christ and God will look into their sincere hearts thus He will respond …& these people will encounter God’s presence in their life to where they will KNOW He is real.
True faith brings a personal fellowship & relationship with Christ.
That belief one can never disbelieve ever again.
[These people are so proud to shout “I am no longer a Christian”….but that only shout the fact they never were a true converted Christian.]
On what basis do you claim this? Why? There have been many things that I believed at one point and later realized was wrong. I assume this of everyone and thus have no reason to think that those claiming to have believed were never believers.
If you want to know and encounter God the Trinity Godhead Almighty Father Jesus Holy Spirit just pray with all your heart to Jesus and ask Him to be your Lord and Saviour . Salvation is a gift for the asking. Read Ephesians 2:8-9 by grace you are saved and not by our trying to earn salvation by our good actions .... if you pray to the living Jesus He's the Way the Truth and the Life...Jesus is also the same yesterday today and forever.
So many have met Christ after a heart prayer to Him...ex porn stars...ex new age....ex psychics ex mafia so forth. Alice Cooper old rock guy...Susan Atkins who was a friend to Anton LeVey church of Satan and she was in the Charlie Mansion Family became a Christian. She felt God's love and forgiveness! Col Saunders the chicken guy even Evel Knievel the wild motorcycle guy...so many more I could mention.
A true believer encounters God in a real supernatural way. No way to not believe after an encounter.
My point is say you meet and greet a famous entertainer ...shake their hand ...then one week later say oh I no longer believe I met that entertainer.
Impossible.
Those that say I was a Christian but am no more...tells me they only had churchanity brainwashing programming dry religion from the start.
Some of us did more than just go to church once a week. My relationship with the Christian God was the most important thing in my life. I poured out my heart to God daily for years. Even did some work in ministry.
He is a good speaker, but it lacks substance. He misrepresents the deconstructed community and brings no evidence to back up his position. Just the same old religion with a slight different spin. He should engage with the claims that Christians make, find out if they true, instead he makes emotional appeals to convince his congregation. Very sad.
click bait for jesus
Worst cop out answer I’ve ever heard.
None of you dare present your reasons for deconstructing because you know that they are merely feeble justifications for your preference toward evil. And you know I will crush everything you say with logic and leave you utterly humiliated.
How do you know that people only deconstruct because of a "preference toward evil?'
I know A LOT of people in this category and that stereotype doesn't align with my experience.
I deconstructed and deconverted, and I think the foundations of morality are fundamentally the same for a non-believer as they are for a Christian.
@jessicaj9743 I'm not sure if these were aimed at my comment or not. I am happy to discuss if you want to chat.
[None of you dare present your reasons for deconstructing]
If one finds that what one believers isn't justified, why wouldn't that be grounds for dismissing such?
[I will crush everything you say with logic and leave you utterly humiliated.]
This would seem to be you projecting what I would consider an evil. It's one thing to show an individual to be wrong. It is another to attempt to destroy them as a person.
I have 20 yrs of reasons to deconstruct. Where should i begin?
Johnny, I could just as easily claim that you reject the truth of Islam because you hate God and you want to be your own God.
That's how the mind games work.
Let's remove emotion like I finally did after trying to repent of everything and the kitchen sink to appease this silent god, just the facts.
Jesus failed his prophecy to come back in his disciples lifetimes. Genesis, per academic consensus, is a polemic and not literal history in any sense. There's evidence enough for academic consensus that Yahweh, fsther god, had a wife named Asherah before the reign of Josiah had that retconned. Ancient Judaism was Monolatristic, meaning they believed other gods existed but didn't worship them, not monotheistic. Which is why the "us" in Genesis exists, it's also who Yahweh is talking to in 1 Kings about how to get rid of Ahab.
There's evidence of editing all throughout the bible, such as Asherah's case, older copies have a large number of textual variations from our modern bibles. These variants don't affect any core doctrine, but they do affect the doctrine of inerrancy. Just one mistake disproves the doctrine of inerrancy as a false doctrine.
There are many failed prophecies all throughout the bible. You can go look up a list.
There are several suspected forgeries still included in the canon of the New Testament. The story of the woman caught in adultery is not original and only appears in later texts.
There are lots of other objections based on facts and not emotional responses. I absolutely do remember being a teenager and many times all through my twenties feeling like a sinner and worthless and begging Jesus to forgive me. I got silence, so I did what I was told and read my Bible. It was incomprehensible, so I sought out teachers. Years later I deconverted against my will when I realized I couldn't believe Christianity was anything but a bunch of ever evolving campfire stories based on the evidence.
There might be a god out there, but it sure ain't yours.
Every objection you have to the bible as been answered you just have to look for it, and to come out with the same conclusion means you have a biased filter so no argument will ever satisfy, if your really looking for truth then I hope the best to you, peace be with you 🙏
@@masterjose8483 I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you sincerely believe that. I started off raised christian, I didn't want to give up my belief because it would hurt my father and my husband's family to find out, however against my will the evidence for everything I listed here convinced me it isn't real. Your choices after reading this are to either believe me that I came to my conclusions honestly, or insult me again by calling me a liar. Your choice.
I hate God
Why? He fucked up creating me. I'm totally fucking worthless and be better off being the poop hanging from a cow..
Just worthless my circumstances haven't improved and only gotten worse there is no hope for me. Fuck it all
There is a beautiful irony in commenting this, on this video! Lol
wow.
I'm only about 4 minutes in, and it is crystal clear that this pastor did not put together the video montage at the beginning of this video. If he had actually watched any of the videos from those people, actually listened to their stories, he would not be talking about "how they were hurt/offended by the church/Christians" or "legalism" or "hypocrisy". Are believers really this tone deaf? Are they actually incapable of imagining worldviews different from their own? It's sermons like these that make me 𝙨𝙤 𝙜𝙡𝙖𝙙 i left.