Another good video, Mark. This video sort of touches on it, but how would you deal with someone in the "sacred name" movement who insists on the original pronunciation of The Father's Son's, and Spirit's names? I like how you bring up the name John at the end (and your own biblical name Mark) because they never say anything about those changes in pronunciation (at least not that I'm aware). I'm curious as to what you would say to such a person.
Very good ...I never knew this and I have been a Christian for 45 years. I'm glad you come up with such a variety of topics. Are you from Scotland or Ireland?
Think there’s a bit more to it. Should consider looking into Francis Bacon’s influence and motivation for elevating the English language, and his time spent in the court of King James while the Bible was being brought into accordance to the wishes of the Puritans and the King himself.
No, it's about establishing trust based on credibility and how the problem of the game of telephone is analogous to confusion created by discrepancies between translations.
Would be interested in seeing similar video on the topic that Yeshua was a common name of the period and region, and that another Yeshua is found in the hebrew old testament. Yet, when translated the "other" Yeshua became Joshua and our Yeshua the Christos (Yeshu) retained a more transliterate version of the name in Greek (Iesu or Iesus). Presumably this was done to distinguish Jesus from Joshua more easily.
Old Testament names have also been mistranslated... for example, Moses is Moshe, Joshua is Y'hoshua... even the books such as calling D'varim, Deuteronomy and M'lakhim Alef, 1 Kings.... and so on
I believe in god whole heartedly!!!!!!!! the names are clearly European. Names don’t translate. When I’m in another country my name is the same. If I ask an Asian or African their name they won’t change it to Tommy because I’m American. There still aren’t guys named Peter or Matthew in the Nile valley to this day. I would like to know their actual names and not the name Europeans appointed during rewriting of the holy book. I feel those names came in around the same time the picture of a European was presented as being a picture of Jesus
Since when do you translate a personal name.using chocolate to make an apple is common but the product itself has nothing to do with apple's .its takes out the authenticity flavor taste and effects leaving you with just a disguise
Since you're here on the channel of The Fuel Project, let's see what Mark had to say about the subject of owls back in 2011. th-cam.com/video/BZwtTnfOg3k/w-d-xo.html
hahahah Chinese translation of Mark as a name is 马克，it pronounces exactly as Mark in English. 标记 is the meaning of the word mark when it‘s not used as a name.
I have come across a certain group of people who believe that the name Jesus is actually translation of Zeus and they say that we have to say Yeshuah and not Jesus . Is there any truth in this
The origin of Zeus theory _may_ be false. But the belief that we should call the Messiah by his original name while here on earth is very sincere and comes from a good place in ones heart. People who do this have a strong conviction and the bible says to let people be convinced in their own mind. So I think the question is wrong. It's not about weather it's okay to call Jesus Yashuah but weather people follow their own conciousness. I suggest you instead explore the history and study the name changes and make up your own mind.
ov j this thought mainly comes from the Hebrew Roots movement that is going through the church. It is definitely good to acknowledge and study the roots of our faith, but some have taken this too far and are now trying to, whether they realize it or not, put believers back under the law. Some have gotten so deep into the movement that they stopped believing in Jesus and converted to Judaism. 🤦🏻♂️
@@onehappydawg I hear that! It boggles my mind to go to a sunday sermon & the bulletain sez it's on Philippians 4, but then when the sermon starts, the pastor jumps right back into the old testament to show proofs of Philippians rather than the Gospels. I'm not against using the old testament, but when it says its a NT sermon, it shouldn't be 30 minutes of OT.
Buried Axblade I can understand that if they are advertising NT and teaching OT. I will say this however, I’ve leaned so much more about the NT by deep study in the OT. Just like Jesus said, “You study the Scriptures(the Old Testament, the Torah and the Prophets) diligently because you think that in them you have eternal life. These are the very Scriptures that testify about me. The best way I’ve learned to study the OT is to only look for Jesus in it. The Hebrew roots movement’s downfall is they are looking for more than just Him.
It is hilarious that people could say such a ridiculous thing! I my mother tongue the disciples are called Mattheus, Petrus, Judas, Markus, Lukas, Johannes, Jakobus (James!) to name a few. I never assumed these are the names that Jesus actually called them by! 🤦♀️
are we speaking English? the letter J became a letter in 1524 and pretty much stopped being a Number and was done by a Roman Catholic...oddly enough the Jesuits also came into being at this exact same time, along with Martin Luther! So, somehow the Yews finally contrived away to change the name Iesus into a Different Name. Because someone somewhere believes that True Names have Power. And now, since Jesu, Joy of Man's Desire, ceased being yesu, we've been convincing ourselves that the pronounciation doesn't matter it's the Person of Christ and the church has been pursuing Christ rather than Jesus' and the Gospel for millenia. Even Martin Luther had to bring it to bear that the Christ, Jesus, was Salvation, not the works of the Christians.
@@onehappydawg I am saying that we should know the Gospel, and who Jesus is to be praying in the Son of God's name. Whether we call him Messyach or Jesus or eesoos. As long as we have the gospel imbedded in our hearts and minds, BOTH, and we know that Salvation is presented to us through the Christ, with a name, we say Jesus in America, then we know to whom we are praying. But people just using Jesus as a magic word or a cuss, well I'd definitely say they should be using the Yahshuah or similar, whereby they KNOW they are taking a True Name in vain. I hope that makes sense. If you know the gospel Jesus, you got it, if you only know the religion G'$ US, then it's just empty pleading or cussing.
Solomon 1. 5 kjv and Somg of Solomon 5. 11 kjv says he had black and beautiful skin with black bushy hair in locks. Sound white ? They changed the names on purpose to make you think they was Europeans 💡
@@factsoverfear9771 No idiot…Song of Solomon nowhere says King Solomon had black skin. And whites can have black bushy hair lol. It doesn’t say his hair was in locks. Show the verse that says that. And white men can have their hair in locks. So that doesn’t prove nothing. You are confused. It was a woman, King Solomon’s lover who says she was black but comely. But she was only black from working in the sun in her family’s vineyard. She only had a suntan. So she wasn’t black neither. She was only dark from getting a dark sun tan. So she was white. She describes King Solomon as WHITE and Ruddy in chapter 5 verse 10. No fool. The names in Bible are Traditional white European names. The Bible is white history written by whites for whites. We white Europeans had the Bible because we wrote it. That’s why only white Europeans were known as Christians for almost 2,000 years. This proves that white Europeans are the Israelites. All the apostles only went to Europe to spread the gospel because they knew the white Europeans were the Israelites. King Solomon’s lover describing Solomon as white and ruddy in Song of Solomon 5:10 KJV Song Of Solomon 5:10 KJV “My beloved is WHITE and ruddy, the chiefest among ten thousand.” Song Of Solomon 5:10 KJV
@@factsoverfear9771 King Solomon’s lover said she was black but only from working in the sun in her family’s vineyard. Solomon’s lover describes King Solomon as white and ruddy in Song of Solomon 5:10 KJV In Lamentations 4:7 KJV says the Israelites were whiter than milk. So yes sounds like the Israelites were white to me. Only white Europeans were known as Christians for almost 2,000 years this proves that white Europeans are the Israelites. All the apostles went to Europe to spread the gospel because they knew the white European were Israelites.
@@factsoverfear9771 Song of Solomon 1:5 is a WOMAN who says she is black but only from working in the sun in her family’s vineyard. She had a dark sun tan, so she was white. Haha
@@factsoverfear9771 🤣🤣😂😂 Song Of Solomon 1:5-6 KJV This is a woman speaking, King Solomon’s lover “I am black, but comely, O ye daughters of Jerusalem, As the tents of Kedar, As the curtains of Solomon. Look not upon me, because I am black, BECAUSE THE SUN HATH LOOKED UPON ME: My mother's children were angry with me; They made me the keeper of the vineyards; But mine own vineyard have I not kept.” Song of Solomon 1:5-6 KJV Song of Solomon 1:4-6 CEV Young women of Jerusalem, it is only right that you should ADORE HIM. (Woman speaking) My skin is dark and beautiful, like a tent in the desert or like Solomon's curtains. Don't stare at me JUST BECAUSE THE SUN HAS DARKENED MY SKIN. My brothers were angry with me; they made me work in the vineyard, and so I neglected my complexion.” Song of Songs 1:4-6 CEV
How could that meme's creator be so stupid he didn't even think about that? And he could've Googled the subject, before he put his meme out there for everyone to laugh at him. 😂
I really appreciate your videos, but pleas stop to getting money from companies. We have to watch devilish inspired ads. Christian channels shouldn't do this.
@@vinceelacion808 of course God is in control. But I really don't want to see new age crap or desires of the world when I come to a brother or sister in Christ. Imagine you go to church and the pastor start the sermon with an ad for yoga meditation music and an ad for beer with a lot of half naked people dancing in the rain. Yeah
Hi there, I came across your comment and thought I would explain something that many viewers on TH-cam don't realize. I also have a TH-cam channel so I understand this from the other side. When your channel reaches enough views and subscribers, you are given the option to 'Monetize'. This is a simple application and does not give any indication on what type of companies will be advertising on your channel. Its just a simple 'yes or no' to wanting ads on your channel. From there, TH-cam has certain companies they deal with, and algorithms to figure out what to advertise and to whom. So for example, when I watched the last video for The Fuel Project, the ad was for a business startup plan. Before that it was a local ad from my auto insurer in my province in Canada, warning of the dangers of texting and driving. These ads are generated based on trends in your area, your own preferences and viewing habits and also the companies guessing what the viewers may want to see. So if The Fuel Project cuts ads, they have no income to produce content except for by crowdfunding or charging a subscription fee. He has good quality content and equipment costs money, so I assume this is the best way forward to spread God's message without begging for money. Hope that helps!
Afra Runduml TH-cam is not the same thing as a church. It takes money to do the research and get the equipment to make videos like Mark makes. If you don't want to see ads you could buy the video series on the Fuel Project website and actually support his ministry as Paul encourages in the last chapter of Galatians, in 2 Corinthians, and other places. If you are spiritually helped by a ministry, you should invest in that ministry what you are able (above your typical tithe, that is; it is not a replacement for tithing to a local church).
Excellent. Knowledge The most powerful weapon
I really like the humor at the end 😎👍
Loved it :) But very well presented Mark and well done for explaining the importance of translation. Bless you brother
I love this short explanation. Thanks.
Appreciate this break down
I’ve always wondered this ! So now I know , thanks 🙏
lol the end!
We need to speak their real names. Even our Lord deserves his real name to be spoken.
Excellent video; well presented and complete
Nice to see you have such fun with that one :) Thanks Mark !
You said it very nicely, the prefered manner.
I've asked religious leaders the same question many times... Never getting an answer... Thank you
It doesn't make sense why a person name has to be changed in order to fit someone's language.
Hilarious! The book of ultimate truth uses fake names. Got it.
Lets make introductions. There is Shadrach, Meshach, Abednego, and... _Daniel_
Another good video, Mark. This video sort of touches on it, but how would you deal with someone in the "sacred name" movement who insists on the original pronunciation of The Father's Son's, and Spirit's names? I like how you bring up the name John at the end (and your own biblical name Mark) because they never say anything about those changes in pronunciation (at least not that I'm aware). I'm curious as to what you would say to such a person.
Very good ...I never knew this and I have been a Christian for 45 years. I'm glad you come up with such a variety of topics. Are you from Scotland or Ireland?
Great info brother! Very funny ending!
Think there’s a bit more to it. Should consider looking into Francis Bacon’s influence and motivation for elevating the English language, and his time spent in the court of King James while the Bible was being brought into accordance to the wishes of the Puritans and the King himself.
Love ya
Funny/sad to see into what degree of stupidity some people will go to discredit the bible. Its just hilarious xD
It discredits itself
No, it's about establishing trust based on credibility and how the problem of the game of telephone is analogous to confusion created by discrepancies between translations.
Would be interested in seeing similar video on the topic that Yeshua was a common name of the period and region, and that another Yeshua is found in the hebrew old testament. Yet, when translated the "other" Yeshua became Joshua and our Yeshua the Christos (Yeshu) retained a more transliterate version of the name in Greek (Iesu or Iesus). Presumably this was done to distinguish Jesus from Joshua more easily.
I still don’t see why one’s name should be translated. Otherwise why aren’t some names translated as well? Such as Melchizedek, Ahab, etc?
Thanks for the info! Do you know why some names are translated and some are not? Like why keep the original Old Testament names?
Old Testament names have also been mistranslated... for example, Moses is Moshe, Joshua is Y'hoshua... even the books such as calling D'varim, Deuteronomy and M'lakhim Alef, 1 Kings.... and so on
😊love it
I believe in god whole heartedly!!!!!!!! the names are clearly European. Names don’t translate. When I’m in another country my name is the same. If I ask an Asian or African their name they won’t change it to Tommy because I’m American. There still aren’t guys named Peter or Matthew in the Nile valley to this day. I would like to know their actual names and not the name Europeans appointed during rewriting of the holy book. I feel those names came in around the same time the picture of a European was presented as being a picture of Jesus
Since when do you translate a personal name.using chocolate to make an apple is common but the product itself has nothing to do with apple's .its takes out the authenticity flavor taste and effects leaving you with just a disguise
So why wasn't the Old Testament names translated in english (assuming they are in Hebrew)?
Jayden Newman they have been translated in English they are written and sound completely in Hebrew
How do we translate names
pure flix is a wolf in sheeps clothing. One of their advertisements features an owl in the background and a bent cross. Pure evil.
Why is an owl evil? Please explain.
@@gammaray4689 Owls are omens of death
😂
I hope you're joking, sir!
Since you're here on the channel of The Fuel Project, let's see what Mark had to say about the subject of owls back in 2011. th-cam.com/video/BZwtTnfOg3k/w-d-xo.html
Where is the other James?
THAT!
Why don't we use original names. It doesn't make sense
the last translation of Mark in chinese should be “马可” instead of “标记”in the video.
Then why change the names for the Bible??
I. AM. O F F E N D E D
hahahah Chinese translation of Mark as a name is 马克，it pronounces exactly as Mark in English. 标记 is the meaning of the word mark when it‘s not used as a name.
I have come across a certain group of people who believe that the name Jesus is actually translation of Zeus and they say that we have to say Yeshuah and not Jesus . Is there any truth in this
G'$ US! usa usa usa and the chant goes on. ee-soos and yahshua neither sound like Zoooos
The origin of Zeus theory _may_ be false. But the belief that we should call the Messiah by his original name while here on earth is very sincere and comes from a good place in ones heart. People who do this have a strong conviction and the bible says to let people be convinced in their own mind.
So I think the question is wrong. It's not about weather it's okay to call Jesus Yashuah but weather people follow their own conciousness.
I suggest you instead explore the history and study the name changes and make up your own mind.
ov j this thought mainly comes from the Hebrew Roots movement that is going through the church. It is definitely good to acknowledge and study the roots of our faith, but some have taken this too far and are now trying to, whether they realize it or not, put believers back under the law. Some have gotten so deep into the movement that they stopped believing in Jesus and converted to Judaism. 🤦🏻♂️
@@onehappydawg I hear that! It boggles my mind to go to a sunday sermon & the bulletain sez it's on Philippians 4, but then when the sermon starts, the pastor jumps right back into the old testament to show proofs of Philippians rather than the Gospels. I'm not against using the old testament, but when it says its a NT sermon, it shouldn't be 30 minutes of OT.
Buried Axblade I can understand that if they are advertising NT and teaching OT. I will say this however, I’ve leaned so much more about the NT by deep study in the OT.
Just like Jesus said, “You study the Scriptures(the Old Testament, the Torah and the Prophets) diligently because you think that in them you have eternal life. These are the very Scriptures that testify about me.
The best way I’ve learned to study the OT is to only look for Jesus in it.
The Hebrew roots movement’s downfall is they are looking for more than just Him.
It is hilarious that people could say such a ridiculous thing! I my mother tongue the disciples are called Mattheus, Petrus, Judas, Markus, Lukas, Johannes, Jakobus (James!) to name a few. I never assumed these are the names that Jesus actually called them by! 🤦♀️
Ma ru ku.
are we speaking English? the letter J became a letter in 1524 and pretty much stopped being a Number and was done by a Roman Catholic...oddly enough the Jesuits also came into being at this exact same time, along with Martin Luther! So, somehow the Yews finally contrived away to change the name Iesus into a Different Name. Because someone somewhere believes that True Names have Power. And now, since Jesu, Joy of Man's Desire, ceased being yesu, we've been convincing ourselves that the pronounciation doesn't matter it's the Person of Christ and the church has been pursuing Christ rather than Jesus' and the Gospel for millenia. Even Martin Luther had to bring it to bear that the Christ, Jesus, was Salvation, not the works of the Christians.
Buried Axblade so are you saying we should be using Jesus’ Hebrew name or His Greek or maybe His Aramaic?
@@onehappydawg I am saying that we should know the Gospel, and who Jesus is to be praying in the Son of God's name. Whether we call him Messyach or Jesus or eesoos. As long as we have the gospel imbedded in our hearts and minds, BOTH, and we know that Salvation is presented to us through the Christ, with a name, we say Jesus in America, then we know to whom we are praying. But people just using Jesus as a magic word or a cuss, well I'd definitely say they should be using the Yahshuah or similar, whereby they KNOW they are taking a True Name in vain. I hope that makes sense. If you know the gospel Jesus, you got it, if you only know the religion G'$ US, then it's just empty pleading or cussing.
makes no sense
Good argument! People will always try to discredit the Bible
It’s either disingenuous or blatantly ignorant that one would use something like a silly meme to affirm his/her own disbelief.
You gaining weight in your old age buddy? I know the feeling. Haha. No offense intended! Thanks for your work
Because the apostles were white!! They had traditionally white Caucasian names.
Solomon 1. 5 kjv and Somg of Solomon 5. 11 kjv says he had black and beautiful skin with black bushy hair in locks. Sound white ? They changed the names on purpose to make you think they was Europeans 💡
@@factsoverfear9771
No idiot…Song of Solomon nowhere says King Solomon had black skin. And whites can have black bushy hair lol. It doesn’t say his hair was in locks. Show the verse that says that. And white men can have their hair in locks. So that doesn’t prove nothing. You are confused. It was a woman, King Solomon’s lover who says she was black but comely. But she was only black from working in the sun in her family’s vineyard. She only had a suntan. So she wasn’t black neither. She was only dark from getting a dark sun tan. So she was white. She describes King Solomon as WHITE and Ruddy in chapter 5 verse 10. No fool. The names in Bible are Traditional white European names. The Bible is white history written by whites for whites. We white Europeans had the Bible because we wrote it. That’s why only white Europeans were known as Christians for almost 2,000 years. This proves that white Europeans are the Israelites. All the apostles only went to Europe to spread the gospel because they knew the white Europeans were the Israelites.
King Solomon’s lover describing Solomon as white and ruddy in Song of Solomon 5:10 KJV
Song Of Solomon 5:10 KJV
“My beloved is WHITE and ruddy, the chiefest among ten thousand.”
Song Of Solomon 5:10 KJV
@@factsoverfear9771
King Solomon’s lover said she was black but only from working in the sun in her family’s vineyard. Solomon’s lover describes King Solomon as white and ruddy in Song of Solomon 5:10 KJV
In Lamentations 4:7 KJV says the Israelites were whiter than milk. So yes sounds like the Israelites were white to me. Only white Europeans were known as Christians for almost 2,000 years this proves that white Europeans are the Israelites. All the apostles went to Europe to spread the gospel because they knew the white European were Israelites.
@@factsoverfear9771
Song of Solomon 1:5 is a WOMAN who says she is black but only from working in the sun in her family’s vineyard. She had a dark sun tan, so she was white. Haha
@@factsoverfear9771
🤣🤣😂😂
Song Of Solomon 1:5-6 KJV
This is a woman speaking, King Solomon’s lover
“I am black, but comely, O ye daughters of Jerusalem, As the tents of Kedar, As the curtains of Solomon.
Look not upon me, because I am black, BECAUSE THE SUN HATH LOOKED UPON ME: My mother's children were angry with me; They made me the keeper of the vineyards; But mine own vineyard have I not kept.”
Song of Solomon 1:5-6 KJV
Song of Solomon 1:4-6 CEV
Young women of Jerusalem, it is only right that you should ADORE HIM. (Woman speaking)
My skin is dark and beautiful, like a tent in the desert or like Solomon's curtains.
Don't stare at me JUST BECAUSE THE SUN HAS DARKENED MY SKIN. My brothers were angry with me; they made me work in the vineyard, and so I neglected my complexion.”
Song of Songs 1:4-6 CEV
There's no middle east.
How could that meme's creator be so stupid he didn't even think about that? And he could've Googled the subject, before he put his meme out there for everyone to laugh at him. 😂
You can’t actually translate names.
These are transliterations, not translations.
I really appreciate your videos, but pleas stop to getting money from companies. We have to watch devilish inspired ads.
Christian channels shouldn't do this.
Calm down. God is in control.
@@vinceelacion808 of course God is in control. But I really don't want to see new age crap or desires of the world when I come to a brother or sister in Christ.
Imagine you go to church and the pastor start the sermon with an ad for yoga meditation music and an ad for beer with a lot of half naked people dancing in the rain. Yeah
Hi there, I came across your comment and thought I would explain something that many viewers on TH-cam don't realize. I also have a TH-cam channel so I understand this from the other side.
When your channel reaches enough views and subscribers, you are given the option to 'Monetize'. This is a simple application and does not give any indication on what type of companies will be advertising on your channel. Its just a simple 'yes or no' to wanting ads on your channel.
From there, TH-cam has certain companies they deal with, and algorithms to figure out what to advertise and to whom. So for example, when I watched the last video for The Fuel Project, the ad was for a business startup plan. Before that it was a local ad from my auto insurer in my province in Canada, warning of the dangers of texting and driving.
These ads are generated based on trends in your area, your own preferences and viewing habits and also the companies guessing what the viewers may want to see.
So if The Fuel Project cuts ads, they have no income to produce content except for by crowdfunding or charging a subscription fee. He has good quality content and equipment costs money, so I assume this is the best way forward to spread God's message without begging for money.
Hope that helps!
Afra Runduml TH-cam is not the same thing as a church. It takes money to do the research and get the equipment to make videos like Mark makes. If you don't want to see ads you could buy the video series on the Fuel Project website and actually support his ministry as Paul encourages in the last chapter of Galatians, in 2 Corinthians, and other places. If you are spiritually helped by a ministry, you should invest in that ministry what you are able (above your typical tithe, that is; it is not a replacement for tithing to a local church).
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