85mm 1.4GM vs 85mm 1.8 | Is the Gmaster worth $1200 more?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ธ.ค. 2018
- In this video, I compare two of Sony's 85mm offerings and see if the Gmaster lens is worth $1200 more than the F1.8 variant. I test the Image quality, Focus speed and build/feature set!
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As a new Sony A7riii owner who is outfitting her kit, yes, I really like and need these kinds of comparison videos. This one was to-the-point; the real shooting examples you used are wonderfully illustrative, and you know what you're talking about. Thanks!
I want all videos like this, really helps me know I’m buying the right lenses and you make them in a way I can trust.
To answer your question, YES keep doing this type of comparison. Your honest comments are a big help.
Thanks for the comparison. Definitely made my decision a lot easier.
yes, love this! I’m looking at 85s right now, and this was really helpful! Definitely would love to see more
0:27 Throw the GM, next time 😜
I love my 85 1.8. Don’t see the point in spending that much more for not a lot of gains. Great video as ever.
exactly, especially for 1200$ you can get another decent lens
@Phil Jones65 adopted lenses perform really poorly and they are designed for dslr which means huge size and bad weight balance on mirrorless.
@Phil Jones65 yes and no. In fact lenses itself are similar in size on any system. Bigger lenses either have bigger aperture or more complex optical scheme. So saying that some minolta lens is smaller means that it has smaller operture or older optical scheme causing worse image quality. It's why for example takumar 50 1.4 is so tiny in comparison to carl zeiss 50 1.4 lens for sony. The difference is about 3 times in size.
My point was - what reason to buy a compact mirrorless and make it bulky and performing poorly using adopters? I bought it because mirrorless have accurate AF(no misses like on dslrs), eye AF functionality(doesn't work via adopters except insanely pricy metabones) and small size. To have these advantages it's necessary to have native lenses.
Moreover many(but not all of course) native sony lenses have best image quality on the market. For example sony 85 1.8 fe from this video has 46 points on dxomark. There is no better lens on the market for such price. So I don't understand how you're going to save money using adapters and loosing AF performance and some features like eye AF if there is no cheaper dslr lens with better or even equal image quality on the market.
@Phil Jones65 the truth is you save money buying native lenses. Adapter + dslr lenses only seem to be saving of money but the reality is you sacrifice performance and features. If you had dslr lenses before switching to a7 - it's another story, but I didn't have any lenses before. So if you buy lenses from the scratch you don't save anything using adapters + dslr lenses because they are not really cheaper. And you are not forced to buy GM lenses because there are alternatives.
I also used only central focusing point before when I was a canon shooter, but it works only on telephoto lenses. If you try this trick on a wide lens you'll get a focus miss. You can also say that AF isn't necessary, before people used manual focusing all the time. Okay, but before people also used horses as a transport, so I don't get your point. I don't want to pay for modern technologies but use them as in cave times.
@Phil Jones65 99% of vintage lenses are crappy. You can think that your lenses are sharp until you try 55 1.8 or 85 1.8. So yeah, better don't try them because you will be totally disappointer how bad old lenses are. I tried them a lot and my decision is paying for native sony lenses. Smart people don't waste their time for crappy vintage lenses.
Thanks, Manny! When I was chosing between these two, I had similar impressions. Sony's 85mm f1.8 is praised by most reviewers and that speaks a lot. For non-pros like me a cheaper option is the way to go. For working photographers the f1.4 is a no brainer, in my opinion. Thanks for inpsiring us, man! I bought Sony system thanks to you and a couple of other photographers and have no regrets at all. Cheers.
As someone who just made the jump to Sony, I'd love to see more of these. Very interested as I build my bag up to what it used to be
As usual, an informative video from an authority in the field. Thanks Manny. Our team gets a lot of perspective from your vids. Always enjoyable.
Love these types of videos and appreciate your honest response to the lenses. You should review the 16-35 2.8 G master if you ever get your hands on it thats a lens i might be down to spend the money on
I totally agree with you, Manny. I have both - the 1.4 for dreamy rendering, but the 1.8 for travel, which is where I do 50% of my photography.
These kind of comparisons are great Manny. It helps us to decide what kind of equipment we would like to work with. Thanks
Best lens reviews I have seen so far! So helpful! Thank you!
That was a very helpful video. Even looking at the pictures on youtube after some compression I could totally see what you were describing. The 1.8 was sharper but the 1.4 did provide for a smoother more aesthetically pleasing picture overall. I can understand how one could make a good argument for preferring either lens.
This was perfect. You just helped me make my mind up on the 1.8. Please keep making videos like this. It was great.
awesome video, thanks....saw your interview on T&C a few months ago and started following you....so glad I did. You are fantastic!
Great content man! Would def love to see more of these!
I have 85mm f/1.8 and I love it. That's my go-to for Portrait and B-roll. Definitely make these types of video as they are super helpful.
Manny Ortiz fix your pubic hair on your face dude or just don't be in front of the camera yes
Great review Manny! Give us more like this!
Love the comparison! Helped me out. Great stuff as always!!
Thanks for the comparison Manny - I’m in process of setting up a lens set for my A7riii - and these are very helpful. Thanks m8!
Excellent review as always . Love your work Manny
Very informative Manny! As someone who does NOT earn money off photography, I always grab the cheaper, albeit high performing, lens. Whenever I do come across a couple thousand dollars while raising a family, camera lenses never get put on the top of my priority list. That said, I think of my 85mm 1.8 as a top premium portrait lens (in my own little world) because in my opinion, it STILL gives me that dreamy background look under the right conditions.
Loved the explanation Manny. I wasn't sure if the price difference would give me that much of a different result but after watching this video, I realized it did not. Thanks again for making this!
Thank You! You are truly an invaluable resource for anyone new to Sony Alpha CAmeras and Lenses. I love your photography as well!
Solid! Been waiting for this! Thanks Manny! 💯🔥
One of your best reviews. Side by side with the same subject. Well done. We need more of these
Hi, just wanted to say that i love your channel and that it has become my favorite place for portrait photography. you are doing an excellent job explaining how you achieve your photos and i really like your work. Best Gregor
Awesome video, and has actually given me pause as to my certainty over my decision to make the 85 GM my next lens purchase. So, having also had my sights on the Sigma 105 1.4, I'm dying to see your full review of that now!
Love your videos, Manny. Just started photography myself. Good to see great photographers from Chicago!
GREAT VIDEO!!! I love your honesty. It really helped me decide what I need to do. You're the best.
Loved the video, very informative and helpful. Would like to see more lens comparisons!
I do very much like videos like this. Anyone else who does anything like this *tends* to only post short 20 or 30 second clips of just one aspect that you covered. It's helpful to have it all in one place with someone who has a better idea of what they're doing and better ways to record and show the results.
One idea I have though is comparisons to vintage lenses. You mention you like the rendering of the G Master more, and vintage lenses are known to be desirable for their rendering (thinking specifically about the Nikon 105 f/2.5). A good *knowledgeable* comparison to older lenses if someone is willing to sacrifice AF for certain characteristics would be cool.
I personally prefer the aperture ring because I can change the settings with the camera off, but I do understand your gripes with always accidentally touching it. In a similar fashion, I disable the touchscreen because I always accidentally hit the corner triggering a focus point in the corner. But I am also glad to have it since it makes video focusing much easier
Love these types of videos Manny! It's always a struggle on deciding between two similar (or what looks to be) lens. The 1.4 is amazing and your conclusion was on point. I'll have to stick to my 55mm Zeiss for now.
Very good video Manny keep them coming, As a new photographer and a new customer to Sony gear this content is really helpful!
Great vid bro, keep these comparisons vids comin.
I have been going back and forth between these two lenses; thank you for this review it was so helpful!!
Thank you for voicing out a strong opinion. Many times when I see comparisons, reviewers get scared someone might get mad so they end up saying "oh you know, each lens is different for every body with their own Perks , so pick the one you think is best" or something like that.
Completely agree! I really hate spending like 10min on a review video and in the end they're super vague about which lens is the better option, like they're afraid to offend someone. Just say your damn opinion on the matter! Here we get an honest answer on which lens he thinks is the best buy.
Manny Ortiz fix your pubic hair on your face dude or just don't be in front of the camera yes
Excellent vid Manny. Fuego as usual.
Love your content bro. Always good stuff!
I’ve been trying to decide on which one to buy for the last 2 weeks, this was helpful. Thanks for this ✌🏻
Samuel Shaw which one did you buy?
Thx for your videos, Manny! Absoluty love your work. Greetings from germay 💪🏼😎
Thank you so much. I googled both lenses and your are the only video that popped up. You just saved me $1200. Omg thank youuu
Thanks for confirming this. I am a Nikon shooter but I just bought the A7III to do more video and some portraiture. I just bought the 85mm 1.8 to do a mixture of both and I'm pleased to see it has a little better autofocus speed. Thanks for all your reviews.
Yes for evf videos and yes for comparisons to similar lenses. Merry Xmass and Happy New Year!
Helping me make easier choices, appreciate it Manny!
Keep it coming. I was literally looking for one of the creators I follow to make this exact video.
When two pieces of gear are so close I really appreciate seeing my favorite ppl post these vids comparing them.
I got burned with the 50mm 1.8 for the a6000 and thought I’d have the same focus speed issue with the 85mm 1.8 full frame. Glad to see I won’t!
Manny Ortiz fix your pubic hair on your face dude or just don't be in front of the camera yes
Very timely video thanks Manny! I'm still using my 85mm 1.8 that's the only lens i have since I got my sony a7rii in March. It's an amazing lens!!
?!!!!!!! You need another lens man! if you're just going to get 1 more soon, maybe a 35, 50 or 28.
Best comparison ever. Like this video. Cause I had lots of confusion with both of those lenses. Thanks Manny👍👍👍
i was not expecting a spooky black song on a manny ortiz video, hahaha dope!!
This is exactly the kind of video I've been looking for!
There's one more lens you should consider. Zeiss Batis 85 1.8 with OSS
Manny you helped me make my decision. Most practical review ever.
Nice job on the comparison. Keep them coming!
please make more videos like this one, it is actually really helpful for me to decide what to buy based on videos like this!!!
Great review , a comparison video I have been waiting to see.
It's great seeing the EVF. I am thinking about upgrading from my 6D to the a7iii and the 85mm 1.8 looks great. Such a good price too.
I shot with the 85 1.8 and I have to say, what an awesome lens. It's crazy sharp and I actually kind of like the bokeh. The lens generally gives a great mood in images.
Thanks for a thorough comparison. (I just purchased the 1.8. but watched this out of curiosity). I really, enjoy your videos - entertaining & helpful.
I purchased the 1.8 on Saturday for a shoot on the following day , best pics I’ve taken so far. Appreciate your advice 💯🙏🏾 best review
I've been going back and forth about buying an 85MM. After watching this video, I'm getting the 1.8. Thanks Manny as always
Awesome comparison. Nice to see and honest opinion of the two.
Manny!! Great vid as always!
It would be great to see how that new sigma 56mm f1.4 compares to Sony 85 mm f1.8! Aps-c vs full frame!
Great video! I like how you had Diana walk away form the camera. When researching lenses to figure out how much subject / background separation is possible at far distances it's really hard to find sample pics or videos where they have the subject walk away for the camera
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This was so helpful, although you focused on the photography side, you presented it from a video format which helped me as a videographer. Props to you!
Thanks for the comparison bro! Most def gonna cop both of these, as my budget expands! :D
YES more of these! Just bought the 85 F1.8 heard a lot of great things and this review just re insures that i made the right decision :)
I like these lens comparison videos. Keep them coming!
Honest review! Thanks man!
Great job Manny! Very useful video
Loved this video. I’ve been trying to decide between the two
Great comparison! Been researching the 85gm for a bit, and recently became aware of the 85 1.8.
Been waiting for this one man. For a guy like me who is primarily a landscape shooter, the 1.8 is a steal at $600 for when I need to do port work. I’ve shot with the 1.4GM and admit that bokeh is unbeatable. But like you said, not worth the $1200 extra unless you’re a portrait photographer. Great video homie.
I have the 1.8, it's an awesome and versatile lens, I haven't tried the 1.4 yet. Great comparison and review.
Love the comparison video but also love the actual shooting much more. Good content !
Great video! Thanks!
Both are special lenses. I have the 1.8. I think though the 85GM just has that x-factor that makes it a future legend, with low vignetting wide open and the most smooth bokeh of any 85 1.4, while being plenty sharp at its widest.
I have the 85 1.8. I consider sharpness more important than a little bit better bokeh.
If you shoot people you may see everything on their face and it becomes unpleasant.
it is more more important and people wont notice the less or slightly less blur to the back. they will notice the sharpness though. think about this you can add more blur by moving yourself back a bit and having the model come with you. with the 1.4, to get its sharpness of the 1.8, you have to stop it down a little to get that which negates the benefit of the 1.4. you want sharp at 1.4, the sigma art trumps the GM. search vids and see yourself.
@@vpr5562 blur can be added, sharpness cannot
instagram.com/p/Blqbm6FAmf6/ Can anybody let me know , can 85MM GMaster lens can click such photos, closeup face photos, please reply
The GM is very sharp by modern standards and in the the 85mm focal length there's no denying that it's rendering is the more pleasing classical-esque portrait lens. The Sony is way cheaper and waaaaay lighter. That's why it's a winner to me. I prefer the GM rendering for portraits in this focal length; hands down. The Sony makes much more sense for most people.
Nice video Manny, succinctly and on the subject! :)
Lol I was literally researching this yesterday so glad you dropped this
Much needed comparison. Thanks champ!
Love the comparison video so I can see for myself how the lens react and preform.
gracias brother for the vid. super helpful. I have the f1.8 and love the results. I have shot with the 1.4 (rental) and you are 100% on the smooth background. But the 1.8 is still very usable and I get to save $1200-- keep them coming. Can't wait for your vid on why you are thinking of downgrading to the A7M3. That is my camera, so love to hear your take.
great video! keep on doing more of these .
thanks for your video! love this! Just ordered the 85 1.8
Great job..... Yes, keep doing more videos. Love your work
Great comparison video! Really like it!
Great video as always. Love comparison videos.
Great value in this video. Of course I want more of this.
Nice balanced review, feel it's a case you'll miss the 1.4 if you have it but if new to 85mm the 1.8 is the way to go, faster AF and ergonomically ideal for the camera plus a huge saving, (which a newbie could spend on lighting). If bokeh is a deal breaker then look for situations when subject to background distance can be extended or camera to subject distance decreased.
That is a very useful advice! Thank you Manny
Yo,Manny! S/o to you for giving a straight answer to the question " Is is worth it over the other?"! Have the feeling a lot of TH-camrs these days are just tiptoeing around a direct answer to simple question. They're always like "Is for you to decide." or "Whatever suits you best." . I mean like when people are indecisive the last thing they should hear when seeking advice is "you pick". So just thumbs up for keeping it clean and on point! :)
Thank you for uploading in 60p. Love it.
Great Video as always👍🏻. Love the 85 1.8
will be waiting for more comparisons!
Definitely more of these, please!
Exactly the review that I search. Thanks a lot, it was really nice !
Love your real talk reviews. Thank you.
Thank you for the comparison video. For me, it comes down to my being able to spend that $1200.00 difference on other camera gear. In fact, that is what I did and I love my 85mm 1.8 Sony lens. I was able to pick up a Tamaron 28-75 F/2.8 with the savings. Thanks again, Manny.
Yes definitely helped me! Just ordered the 1.8 and pretty glad I did! :)