Yang Lu Chan didn't invent Taiji... That would be Chen Wang Ting... Yang learned the first road of Chen taiji and created Yang style but Taiji was around long before he was born.
This is a big topic of debate. Technically the word Taijiquan first originated with Yang Lu chan, but the earliest push hands exercises originated with Chen Wangting. If we want to take it even further, the earliest Chen ancestor in the lineage is Chen Bu, who was the one to settle in what is now modern day Chen Village.
Yang Luchan was the first who call it Taiji Quan. Chen Fake was the first after Yang who call his family style Taiji Quan. Also Yang Luchan very likely didnt learn the family style. This was prohibited for outsiders. Chen Changxing probably teached him the style he learned from Jiang Fa.
@@Gieszkannewhich btw, there was a lot of stigma amongst the family who didn't like that the art from Jiang Fa was being taught (losing face teaching a non family art), so Changxing was a bit of a family Pariah for that. Makes more sense that he taught Yang the Jiang Fa art they didn't want to learn. Which technically means the art was around far longer than possibly even the Chen family, with respect to what Jiang Fa taught. However, to the point others have made, the nomenclature of "Taijiquan" began with Yang Luchan, regardless of who invented the actual movements.
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This was a very good lecture, thanks
Great lecture but the music at the end LOL ,...... yikes
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Continuing to be great!
Thanks Jack! What topic you want us to cover?
@@WhirlingCirclesPodcast nyc kung fu history of course :)
@@HIMfan0805 ok awesome we will cover it soon!
thank you! Very Interesting!
Awesome interview ...cool music !
Excellent
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Yang Lu Chan didn't invent Taiji... That would be Chen Wang Ting... Yang learned the first road of Chen taiji and created Yang style but Taiji was around long before he was born.
This is a big topic of debate. Technically the word Taijiquan first originated with Yang Lu chan, but the earliest push hands exercises originated with Chen Wangting. If we want to take it even further, the earliest Chen ancestor in the lineage is Chen Bu, who was the one to settle in what is now modern day Chen Village.
Yang Luchan was the first who call it Taiji Quan. Chen Fake was the first after Yang who call his family style Taiji Quan. Also Yang Luchan very likely didnt learn the family style. This was prohibited for outsiders. Chen Changxing probably teached him the style he learned from Jiang Fa.
@@Gieszkannewhich btw, there was a lot of stigma amongst the family who didn't like that the art from Jiang Fa was being taught (losing face teaching a non family art), so Changxing was a bit of a family Pariah for that. Makes more sense that he taught Yang the Jiang Fa art they didn't want to learn. Which technically means the art was around far longer than possibly even the Chen family, with respect to what Jiang Fa taught. However, to the point others have made, the nomenclature of "Taijiquan" began with Yang Luchan, regardless of who invented the actual movements.