I mean it's amazing the way you are getting us straight into the real techniques without wasting any time ....These techniques and realisations don't come easy thanks for putting these up.
Learning by watching a specific process and then trying that is a great way to learn. It's not a shortcut to cut out working on basic fundamental skills but it helps you develop a workflow and process for yourself as you decide what you resonate with and what you don't 😊
Thanks! I use it mostly because I think it matches and sometimes exceeds PS in capability, but yeah open source is nice. I always make sure to donate to their kickstarter every year, to give back. :)
+Vanessa Rezende Thank you Vanessa, I'm glad you appreciate it! All the demos and materials will be kept online so you can do it like a self-taught class at any time when you are free. I am always happy to help with questions. If you want me to help you with dedicated critique as you do it, there are donation options so you can still get the full benefit of the class.
thanks for recommending that pure ref program. Before, I would flip through each photo one by one, but thanks to Pureref, it's nice to be able to see all my reference photos at once.
I love this video. I'm env designer/ vis dev artist, as well. It's weird YT just now recommended this vid iinstead of years ago when u uploaded it. Tbh I hate thumbnailing & when the director asks me for a bunch I feel like he's torturing me haha. But i'm sorta a nerd in the sense that I do use perspective at that stage. I love using grid & putting each object in the shot perfectly in perspective. I get triggered when I see other artists do beautiful illustrations but some detail is slightly out of perspective (it's usually a character's horns or helmet or a tree branch)
Hey that's great, glad you enjoyed it! YT's algorithm seems to have changed over time, and it does like to be either totally irrelevant or too relevant. Who knows how it really works 😅. I tend to like the first stages in Enviro work as that's where the big ideas and comps are generated and the imagination can run free. Now I mostly paint for myself, not clients, so everything in my process has become much more tailored for my preferences not someone else's. ☺ Also, yes! Perspective tools are the bomb, I am glad they exist so I don't have to do the drudgery of making my own grids 😂
Realizing that I'm totally missing the perspective to guide my designs, the sense of receding space, and scale is really compelling in your thumbnails!
Sean Paints Thanks dude! Yep perspective is one of those important fundamentals if you want to create an easily understandable sense of space to the world :)
Some insightful demonstrations on how to draw backgrounds. Incidentally, i might want to look at the assignment a bit but i can't see a link for it. I'll probably watch the video again and/or look at the final thumbnails.
Thank you! All the published assignments up to week 3 are in the site link below. Week 4 was described on live stream (I uploaded the vid to YT as well) 4 to 8 was essentially a project chosen by the students and I just provided ongoing feedback on their work. This site basically holds all the assignments, student work and my video feedback as well: sites.google.com/site/edrocks2015/assignment Hope it helps!
uff awesome and helpful video :) ! and krita seems to have an edge over photoshop in some areas actually xD(not that it is really important anyway ^^) thanks for making this video !
Hey Plenum, Thanks! Yes I've got those recorded, just need to figure out what I can say in addition to what I already talked about during this one. Don't want to double up too much. Maybe I'll do a similar video with a more organic, less layered approach!
Pause, close your eyes and take some normal breaths, focus your attention entirely on any sensation you feel in the small area between your nostrils and upper lip as you breathe normally in and out. observe these sensations come and then go, no judgements. If your mind wanders (it will) bring your attention solely back to that area. Then when your mind calms get back to it. The feeling of being overwhelmed is internally generated and amplifies any external triggers, so if you can manage your internal response to stress, like with a short meditation as I described, it should help you to not focus on the anxiety and work through.
@@bitmonki No problem! Just remember this is all fun after all. The outcome will be whatever the outcome will be according to your skill and there is literally nothing you can do to improve your skill huge amounts within the timeframe of one drawing, so don't beat yourself up if it feels like you're out of your depth. Learn to evaluate and identify what worked and what didn't in your process, and then you can use the next drawing to address them a bit perhaps . You can also always be critical in an honest constructive way of your work, without anxiety, it just requires some clarity and perspective to realise you will absolutely get better and things become easier if you simply put the time and effort in to learn and improve on some specific fundamental areas that aren't being understood or applied well by you atm. One can be dedicated and passionate and improve and yet learn to not take things quite so seriously in terms of output that it becomes a stress. I know this may not be as natural when early on in the journey and there's an overwhelming amount of things to learn, but it will become easier and more manageable as you develop. Just keep it all in a balanced perspective and truly focus on the enjoyment of the process, the learning, the challenges and the journey overall. Success or failure isn't something defined by others, it's defined by you, so find the successes in your process as well as the 'failures' and use them as stepping stones onwards 😊
can you link the custom brushes that you use so we can download and use it too? it's so difficult for me as a beginner to create or identify the type of brushes i need:(, thanks for the tutorial by the way! wanna finish this playlist today:) amazing tutorial
Great video, thanks a lot. Do you have any guide for me to learn to draw (especially for landscape like that) ? just recently started to learn digital drawing (i had no prior experience nor knowledge in drawing) and i don't know where should I start
My honest advice now is to begin to practice fundamental drawing first with traditional media not digital. Pencil and paper. Keep it simple. Traditional is generally harder and forces constraints which is good when first learning and increases your fundamental skills quicker. Digital is great but it's too powerful and flexible and confusing for a beginner imo and it allows you to use shortcuts that don't actually help your basic drawing skills as much and so you will improve slower overall. It is much easier to go from traditional work to digital, than vice versa. If you also use digital, keep it simple as well. Use a basic brush, don't use fancy adjustment tools or rely on undos too much to begin with. In general begin with observational studies from photos and from life if possible. Bargue drawings are good to study from. You need to learn to observe and measure accurately. This guide is a good one as an introduction to more traditional Atelier style approach. Pay what you want [$0+] www.dorian-iten.com/accuracy/ You can also try the excercises at www.drawabox.com Proko here on YT has many good videos for beginners For basics on understanding digital painting in general try www.ctrlpaint.com/ There are many other resources but i cannot list them all. The best most comprehensive one that I still re-read all the time is Harold Speed's "The Practice and Science of Drawing" from an academic approach. It may not be the easiest to read through but the information on what drawing actually is, is deep and insightful. Remember to just have fun even if the drawing or study is not going well. Don't worry about doing "bad" drawings. They are how you learn. Don't always try to do "good" drawings. That will come with time and effort. Carry a sketchbook with you always and sketch from observation whenever you can. If you can find a good academic tradtional drawing atelier or class near you, I highly recommend you try them. It is much more fun to learn with others in a structured way than online on your own. Good luck!
Thaaaank youuu for the reply, I've never really thought about trying traditional drawing since I'm suck haha. I'll make sure to bring a little sketchbook and pencil wherever I go out and check the source you gave. The other problem i faced is I find it's quite hard to use pen tablet while my eyes fixed on the monitor, I tried drawing simple forms like circle and square but they were hideously deformed. Once again thank you very much for your reply, it gave ray of hope XD
@@shaffanhaqi6345 Yep that's the other issue with digital if you aren't drawing directly on a screen. It is much harder to draw linework with a tablet off to the side, but don't worry, that will get easier with practice too. ☺ Enjoy yourself. Enjoy learning. Celebrate the mistakes and the successes. Be kind to yourself. You got this. 💪
Thanks! Here you go. I use Vanishing point assistants, not the perspective grid, and add as many VPs as I need. I also set a key binding to the 'snap to assistant' function so I can easily turn snapping to the guides, on or off quickly as I need. docs.krita.org/en/user_manual/painting_with_assistants.html#painting-with-assistants
Hey Johnathan! Look up 'assistants' in Krita's help manual online. It has a whole raft of guides that you can snap to if you wish while painting. I use several vanishing point assistants when i want to setup a perspective for a painting
+callmedeno Thanks! Yup I use it for 100% of my professional (and personal) work. I have found little issue with doing so as a freelancer. There are a few small things when it comes to layer types when it comes to outputting psd files, which can require some workaround, but every version of Krita keeps getting better at this. In my opinion, it is the best opensource painting program to use for pro work, and even does some things better than PS atm.
Thanks! Not sure exactly what you mean? When working for money I call them clients. But, I have recently quit freelance, so no more client work for me 😁
Heya, sorry I don't have a well arranged brushpack that I can share at the moment. I will try and get this done when I am less lazy about it! The "architecture" brush is basically two squares vertically arranged with a small space in between. You can see the outline in parts of the video. Easy enough to recreate as a custom brush. Play with brush spacing to get different effects :)
+callmedeno I will put something together for you soon. Maybe I will do a quick tips video on my brush set and settings, and share some installable packages. Stay tuned :)
havent you been featured in the latest sweetfx issue? great stuff man I really like this way of working myself, I always have trouble connecting my value layers though, and contrast is my enemy.
Hey Oliver! Yep I've had the honour of being featured in imagineFx 131, this month :) Yeah there is a potential for not being able to create a cohesive sense of space between layers when working like this. The key is in the atmospheric perspective and adding more subtle value transitions as you go on. I also constantly am tweaking value contrast as I develop a piece...it rarely is perfect in thumbnails!
+Amit Dutta heres a sketch I just did, I really like this technique, its a very fun way of working. So far I worked "Eytan zana style" and its not nearly as organic as this technique. I will try adding more atmospheric perspective, hopefully it helps. you can see here this is a WIP of mine: abload.de/img/stationf7ssj.jpg the contrasts just look weird to me its something Im struggling with a lot. oh and heres the sketch: abload.de/img/sketchmxsy1.jpg thanks so much for doing these man, really cool stuff.
+Oliver Beck those are nice dude. I think the second one is very successful, just need to watch putting focal points like the figure so close to canvas edge .If you just think about lighting and start putting broad value shifts of shadow and light into the various layers it will start to feel way more solid. The first image does have some value issues. Mostly I think there is too much of a range between the darkest and lightest within each layer, and that main building as a single value contrasts with all that a bit much at the moment. Crush down the value range within each layer a bit and get some shadow and light shifts into the building and things will start to look better. I think you need to focus on your lighting at this stage and really start to think about how it would affect things and you'll get somewhere with that. Nice stuff man! It's always great to see people taking to new processes :) Keep it up!
+Amit Dutta the architecture was still in progress I usually start with the shapes first, then apply some texture pattern (John J. Park does this a lot, his session 6 gumroad is really good) and add some light and design. alright, got it. Focus on lighting, broad value shifts, too high of an value range. I'll do some reworks and practice then I`ll check back in!
Hello Amit! When i switch from a brush to the eraser (using the "E" key), how to keep a size for the brush (for instance 100px), and a different size to the eraser (for instance 150px), and keep it on memory every time i switch between them? Im having the following problem: if the brush size is 100px when i switch to the eraser the size its the same (100 px). How to fix that? Thx in advance.
Heya Sonny! Yep, if you go into the edit brush settings, at the very bottom bar you will see a checkbox called "Eraser switch size" It is off by default, if you check it that retains the last sizing of your eraser mode, so you can have different sizes!
Thank you, master! By the way, which tablet do you use? I have a small intuos tablet by wacom, and i must say im kinda disapointed to get used to it. Do you have some way to avoid keep drawing so shaky...strangely it works wonderfully at zbrush, but ive being trying to make a portrait from a photo (looking at the portrait and drawing), and seems using a real pencil its easier....
Actually I use a tiny intuos small...the cheapest one! My large intuos's all broke way too soon. It's always harder to draw on a tablet, and a challenge to get smooth lines, but in the tool options when you have the brush tool selected, is the opportunity to check on "smoothing" This will help you tailor how krita stablises and smooths your strokes. You can turn it on and off with a shortcut that you assign. Do a google search or use the Krita manual to help you figure out what each option does.
For some reason I can't come up with good shapes like you during my thumbnail process. They all look same and boring too. Do I need to do studies and buildup my visual library?
Well in a short answer...yes. It shows that you aren't used to constructing with or thinking about these kind of fundamentals. Study the large shape patterns you see in master paintings. Also I actually mention this in the video but few seem to pick up on it who have this problem: I mentioned to pick shapes to use prior to each one if you are struggling. Eg. Triangles, circles, 6 sided things., things with repeated shapes or no repeated shapes. The basic design principles applied specifically are also useful (thinking about balance, rhythm/movement, emphasis/contrast, repetition, etc). Read 'Picture This' by Molly Bang. Loomis has things on composition in his Creative Illustration book. If you haven't specifically been using or thinking about shapes they won't necessarily come to you out of your subconcious and it may seem a bit like aimless doodling.
@@MonkeyBreadMagic by studying u mean copying 1 to 1? Also i have been doing value studies from masters and film studies. and i can pretty much paint black and white but i have not started anything in colour yet because i want to do thumbnails like these from imagination too. Is it right or should i now start doing colour studies of masters too?Because design my own scenes even in greayscale is very hard right now
@@shazarjavaid7838 It is hard for me to give you specifics on approaches to take. I have become more averse to telling people what to do or producing more process videos such as this, as everyone is at a different skill level. Without seeing your work it would be hard to give you the best advice on how to address any shortfalls or potential gains. There are many approaches and things to try. I think the best advice I can give is to practice or do, EXACTLY what it is you want to get better at. If you want to be able to do enviro thumbnails from imagination, do more of that! Studies from master paintings for composition or the broader value schemes usually will be more efficient if you limit how much detail you put into them, but this shouldn't stop you from doing more detailed observationally accurate work. Both give you different benefits. Concentrate on the broader shapes or values, but try to be as accurate as you can with the shapes and values at the level you will be working with. Also after this you must also do your own compositions from imagination as well if that is what you want to be able to do. With every study decide up front what specific aspect or aspects it is you are drilling. This should be based on the current "issues" you would like to improve upon. If you are not able to identify what things to target, try to find or get decent feedback from a SELECT few individuals who you trust and have demonstrable capabilities in their own work. Just keep in mind, not everyone who is skillled at art is good at explaining themselves or giving feedback. Always remember that most problems or issues in skill of representation come from understanding or lack of a true understanding of the importance of fundamentals. Learn to draw well first! This is key and I cannot stress it enough. Painting is simply drawing with colour and tone added into the mix. Lastly, don't do everything digitally. There is much less margin for error with traditional work and consequently your skills improve much faster due to the challenge, and these skills will easily translate to your digital work. Do a lot of study from direct observation and from life is possible. Still lifes, plein air etc. Working from life is probably the best way to upskill your general observation and thereby your representation skills. Get or read Alla Prima (I or II) by Richard Schmid, The Practice and Science of Drawing by Harold Speed. If you want to learn about the true fundamentals to representational art, these are hard to beat. The academic approach has been working at teaching people how to draw for a long time. It works and works for a reason. It teaches you how to represent form and light accurately through careful observation and understanding of what goes into a drawing/painting. Sure many may say you don't need to do that, especially with so many digital tools to shortcut things, but in my experience over the last year, I can only say, I know if I had approached things more academically, I would be much more skilled than I am now. Anyway this is all a tangent to your question. Hope it isn't too vague.
@@MonkeyBreadMagic o man your videos is dope! Rly.) I about the hotkeys and all this stuff, and I love how u organize all in krita. I m using krita mb one month but I feel the all what i make in a hotkeys settings it's terrible. If this posible, pls share your settings. Sry for my English level.
@@gluebubbler Oh I see. Don't apologise for your English 😊. Hmm well I tend to use mostly default shortcuts but I have made some changes. Tbh my setup now is probably quite a bit different than it was back then. I have been considering doing a few short videos on Krita tools and workflow to get back into creating some new content after many years. Instead of me trying to describe that perhaps it would be better for me to actually do some of those videos including how to use the perspective assistants, which seems a common question and also share my shortcut settings. In the meanwhile the Krita help is very useful and worth reading and definitely keep experimenting with your own setup so that it becomes more to your liking!
@@MonkeyBreadMagic I will definitely use the instructions on the official website, thank you! I really hope you get back to running your channel. Your setup video idea is very good. I really love your videos!
In the tool docker there is a snap to 'assistant' checkbox or some similar worded option. I set a custom key to toggle this on or off as I need to snap to various guides.
I'm just repeating myself again but If you have any vanishing point assistants setup on the canvas you can set snap to assistant on the tool options docker when you are using a brush. Obviously you need to set up 3 VP assistants for a 3 point perspective and 2 for 2pt etc. The shortcut is shift s by default for snapping, I think. Read the krita manual. Almost all technical operation questions can be found there. docs.krita.org/en/user_manual/painting_with_assistants.html#painting-with-assistants
Heya, This page explains each function. docs.krita.org/Painting_With_Assistants There is a link about quarter way down the page to a demo by wolthera, one of the devs of Krita, on setting up VPs with it. I found it a bit rambly, but it does show it in action. The key thing I do extra is make a custom keyboard shortcut in Krita, that is linked to "Toggle Assistant" This allows you to turn on and off constraining your brushstrokes to the various assistant guides you can create. Very useful if you want to paint on and off guide at will.
Check out LazyNezumi pro. I haven't used it myself so I can't say how good it is. Seems a bit more complicated than the krita implementation. lazynezumi.com/perspective
How long did these actually take you? One thing I've always struggled with in thumbnails is that I've always been told that they're supposed to take no more than ten minutes to do then you move on to the next one when in reality, it takes me way longer to figure things out and to make it look like a coherent thumbnail drawing. I don't think I'm moving too slow, I think that I'm trying to take the time to actually figure out the composition. Whenever I try to speed up and think less, I find I have to do a lot more work in the following stages of the painting. So how long do you usually spend thumbnailing?
Hello! These were probably around the 20 minute mark each. I don't put much stock on prescriptive methods of doing things, like "you must only take 10 mins for thumbnails" I consider these as intermediate value sketches really, because just as you described I really want to address the main ideas, perspective, composition, atmosphere and general sense of lighting. Take as long as YOU need upfront. It starts to become a problem when doing client work, because time equates to money, so the longer one takes the less one gets paid, at least if we are talking flat fee work. Some people might be able to read 10 minute scrawls others might just ask for more clarification, so I prefer to make it clear to them what they are looking at up front. I think it is useful to get down lots of ideas quickly as well, so something I sometimes do is pen sketch 20 or 30 actual comp almost abstract thumbs, a minute each, but I still need to pick a few to work up a bit more. Main message, time taken is only a problem when its an actual constraint. otherwise, do it however the heck you like!!! :)
I think Lazy Nezumi has perspective tools for PS and a quick search for 'perspective tool photoshop' will bring up a bunch of other tools. Can't vouch for any of these as i don't use PS
I recommend studying master paintings for their value structure, but simplifying them using this approach if you like (ie simplifying an image into layers of major value shifts.) I talk about them in the assignment section of the week 1 video a little th-cam.com/video/zbjoXg_oyRI/w-d-xo.htmlm35s
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Realized this video is 9 years old, but still SO helpful and informative- thank you so much for this! Your work is truly inspiring.
@@kitvey Glad you found them useful
I mean it's amazing the way you are getting us straight into the real techniques without wasting any time ....These techniques and realisations don't come easy thanks for putting these up.
Learning by watching a specific process and then trying that is a great way to learn. It's not a shortcut to cut out working on basic fundamental skills but it helps you develop a workflow and process for yourself as you decide what you resonate with and what you don't 😊
I was looking for a good video on environmental concept art and I gotta say, your videos were the gold nugget!
Thank you so much! Hope they help 😊
wow the paintings are so clean even at this stage
Finally a tut with krita used. Not all people can afford photoshop x) Nice vid btw :')
Thanks! I use it mostly because I think it matches and sometimes exceeds PS in capability, but yeah open source is nice. I always make sure to donate to their kickstarter every year, to give back. :)
But all people could "obtain" photoshop..
hi
Glad I found you on youtube. You're very well-spoken and this is super helpful. :)
Thanks! Glad you find them useful. Stay tuned for more :)
Absolutely an awesome tutorial! Thank you so much. Your art is outstanding.
Lisa Maier Thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed the process!
Your thumbnails look really cool !!! I would definitely join the class if I had time right now. Thank you so much for sharing this !!
+Vanessa Rezende Thank you Vanessa, I'm glad you appreciate it! All the demos and materials will be kept online so you can do it like a self-taught class at any time when you are free.
I am always happy to help with questions. If you want me to help you with dedicated critique as you do it, there are donation options so you can still get the full benefit of the class.
thanks for recommending that pure ref program. Before, I would flip through each photo one by one, but thanks to Pureref, it's nice to be able to see all my reference photos at once.
No problem, it's a great little program!
thanks for that! I always have to seek for exercises made by other to motivate me. Gonna try it tonight. Cheers!
Awesome. Hope you have fun! :)
wow this is really great and helpful. I'll probably use your exercise in my practice! You had all my focus :)
Great! Glad you liked it ☺
very nice! Thank you for this. Now I following you and like this. Keep going.
I love this video. I'm env designer/ vis dev artist, as well. It's weird YT just now recommended this vid iinstead of years ago when u uploaded it. Tbh I hate thumbnailing & when the director asks me for a bunch I feel like he's torturing me haha. But i'm sorta a nerd in the sense that I do use perspective at that stage. I love using grid & putting each object in the shot perfectly in perspective. I get triggered when I see other artists do beautiful illustrations but some detail is slightly out of perspective (it's usually a character's horns or helmet or a tree branch)
Hey that's great, glad you enjoyed it! YT's algorithm seems to have changed over time, and it does like to be either totally irrelevant or too relevant. Who knows how it really works 😅. I tend to like the first stages in Enviro work as that's where the big ideas and comps are generated and the imagination can run free. Now I mostly paint for myself, not clients, so everything in my process has become much more tailored for my preferences not someone else's. ☺ Also, yes! Perspective tools are the bomb, I am glad they exist so I don't have to do the drudgery of making my own grids 😂
Excellent narrative, thank you this tutorial and introducing me to that perspective tool.
+Khanh Ngo Thank you, and you're very welcome!
Realizing that I'm totally missing the perspective to guide my designs, the sense of receding space, and scale is really compelling in your thumbnails!
Sean Paints Thanks dude! Yep perspective is one of those important fundamentals if you want to create an easily understandable sense of space to the world :)
You deserve much more views!! Thank you!
Thank you!
Superb. Neat & Clean. Thanks for sharing the video.
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it :)
you should run a class like this again! I have just completed assignment 1 now onto this one
Cool, hope you get something out of it. 💪
Some insightful demonstrations on how to draw backgrounds. Incidentally, i might want to look at the assignment a bit but i can't see a link for it. I'll probably watch the video again and/or look at the final thumbnails.
Thank you! All the published assignments up to week 3 are in the site link below. Week 4 was described on live stream (I uploaded the vid to YT as well) 4 to 8 was essentially a project chosen by the students and I just provided ongoing feedback on their work.
This site basically holds all the assignments, student work and my video feedback as well: sites.google.com/site/edrocks2015/assignment
Hope it helps!
very cool designs and concepts, thanks for sharing.............
Thanks, glad you enjoyed them!
Nice video! 🧚🏼♀️
Thank you!
uff awesome and helpful video :) !
and krita seems to have an edge over photoshop in some areas actually xD(not that it is really important anyway ^^)
thanks for making this video !
YAY Krita :)
Thank you so much for this! This was awesome! i'm def subbing
Thank you! Glad you found it useful :)
Great job so inspiring
any specific brushes? I love that vid so muvh
You deserve more subscribers...
Thank you for the sentiment! :)
Amit Dutta you are welcome 😊
OMG this is perfect, thanks a lot.
You're welcome!
This is very helpful ！thank you！！
Glad you found it useful!
Very helpful, thank you.
You're welcome!
WAOWW..... u inspire a lot.. thank you :)
Thanks Abhishek. Glad I can help!
This is very helpful ;u; thank you very much!
You're welcome! Glad you found it useful
Great video, thanks! Did you do a video on the other 2 value sketches as well?
Hey Plenum, Thanks! Yes I've got those recorded, just need to figure out what I can say in addition to what I already talked about during this one. Don't want to double up too much. Maybe I'll do a similar video with a more organic, less layered approach!
Thank you somuch for this tuorial! very helpful :D
How can i not get overwhelmed 😭
Pause, close your eyes and take some normal breaths, focus your attention entirely on any sensation you feel in the small area between your nostrils and upper lip as you breathe normally in and out. observe these sensations come and then go, no judgements. If your mind wanders (it will) bring your attention solely back to that area. Then when your mind calms get back to it. The feeling of being overwhelmed is internally generated and amplifies any external triggers, so if you can manage your internal response to stress, like with a short meditation as I described, it should help you to not focus on the anxiety and work through.
@@MonkeyBreadMagic Thankyou so much ..😀 i stumbled upon your channel and found it to be extremely helpful.. thank you so much for replying.
@@bitmonki No problem! Just remember this is all fun after all. The outcome will be whatever the outcome will be according to your skill and there is literally nothing you can do to improve your skill huge amounts within the timeframe of one drawing, so don't beat yourself up if it feels like you're out of your depth. Learn to evaluate and identify what worked and what didn't in your process, and then you can use the next drawing to address them a bit perhaps . You can also always be critical in an honest constructive way of your work, without anxiety, it just requires some clarity and perspective to realise you will absolutely get better and things become easier if you simply put the time and effort in to learn and improve on some specific fundamental areas that aren't being understood or applied well by you atm.
One can be dedicated and passionate and improve and yet learn to not take things quite so seriously in terms of output that it becomes a stress. I know this may not be as natural when early on in the journey and there's an overwhelming amount of things to learn, but it will become easier and more manageable as you develop. Just keep it all in a balanced perspective and truly focus on the enjoyment of the process, the learning, the challenges and the journey overall. Success or failure isn't something defined by others, it's defined by you, so find the successes in your process as well as the 'failures' and use them as stepping stones onwards 😊
@@MonkeyBreadMagic i understand now.. clarity, perspective, time + effort, reapproachment. I think i understand it.. thankyou 😀
amazing tutorial! thanks
+sebartex Thanks. Glad you enjoyed it!
Thank you for sharing. This is a great video!
I can't understand the name of the references application.
Would you mind repeating it please?
Thank you Luca.
Yep, go here: www.pureref.com/ :)
can you link the custom brushes that you use so we can download and use it too? it's so difficult for me as a beginner to create or identify the type of brushes i need:(, thanks for the tutorial by the way! wanna finish this playlist today:) amazing tutorial
Great video, thanks a lot. Do you have any guide for me to learn to draw (especially for landscape like that) ? just recently started to learn digital drawing (i had no prior experience nor knowledge in drawing) and i don't know where should I start
My honest advice now is to begin to practice fundamental drawing first with traditional media not digital. Pencil and paper. Keep it simple. Traditional is generally harder and forces constraints which is good when first learning and increases your fundamental skills quicker. Digital is great but it's too powerful and flexible and confusing for a beginner imo and it allows you to use shortcuts that don't actually help your basic drawing skills as much and so you will improve slower overall. It is much easier to go from traditional work to digital, than vice versa.
If you also use digital, keep it simple as well. Use a basic brush, don't use fancy adjustment tools or rely on undos too much to begin with.
In general begin with observational studies from photos and from life if possible. Bargue drawings are good to study from.
You need to learn to observe and measure accurately. This guide is a good one as an introduction to more traditional Atelier style approach. Pay what you want [$0+]
www.dorian-iten.com/accuracy/
You can also try the excercises at www.drawabox.com
Proko here on YT has many good videos for beginners
For basics on understanding digital painting in general try www.ctrlpaint.com/
There are many other resources but i cannot list them all. The best most comprehensive one that I still re-read all the time is Harold Speed's "The Practice and Science of Drawing" from an academic approach. It may not be the easiest to read through but the information on what drawing actually is, is deep and insightful.
Remember to just have fun even if the drawing or study is not going well. Don't worry about doing "bad" drawings. They are how you learn. Don't always try to do "good" drawings. That will come with time and effort.
Carry a sketchbook with you always and sketch from observation whenever you can.
If you can find a good academic tradtional drawing atelier or class near you, I highly recommend you try them. It is much more fun to learn with others in a structured way than online on your own.
Good luck!
Thaaaank youuu for the reply, I've never really thought about trying traditional drawing since I'm suck haha. I'll make sure to bring a little sketchbook and pencil wherever I go out and check the source you gave. The other problem i faced is I find it's quite hard to use pen tablet while my eyes fixed on the monitor, I tried drawing simple forms like circle and square but they were hideously deformed. Once again thank you very much for your reply, it gave ray of hope XD
@@shaffanhaqi6345 Yep that's the other issue with digital if you aren't drawing directly on a screen. It is much harder to draw linework with a tablet off to the side, but don't worry, that will get easier with practice too. ☺
Enjoy yourself. Enjoy learning. Celebrate the mistakes and the successes. Be kind to yourself. You got this. 💪
Great thumbnails, thank you! I have a question about brush with perspective grid, how does it possible to set up this?
Thanks! Here you go. I use Vanishing point assistants, not the perspective grid, and add as many VPs as I need.
I also set a key binding to the 'snap to assistant' function so I can easily turn snapping to the guides, on or off quickly as I need.
docs.krita.org/en/user_manual/painting_with_assistants.html#painting-with-assistants
@@MonkeyBreadMagic thank you!
thanks for sharing the video
this really help me :D
No problem. Glad to help!!
Hello Amit! While you draw you seem to have some auutomati perspective lines to help you with your brushstrokes. What sort of setting is that??
Hey Johnathan! Look up 'assistants' in Krita's help manual online. It has a whole raft of guides that you can snap to if you wish while painting. I use several vanishing point assistants when i want to setup a perspective for a painting
I would like to know where can I download your brush tool?
I love you :D This is so great
I love you too, let's run away together :)
Somewhere over the rainbow!
subbed. also Krita
+callmedeno Thanks! Yup I use it for 100% of my professional (and personal) work. I have found little issue with doing so as a freelancer.
There are a few small things when it comes to layer types when it comes to outputting psd files, which can require some workaround, but every version of Krita keeps getting better at this. In my opinion, it is the best opensource painting program to use for pro work, and even does some things better than PS atm.
hey, I just love the video, but one question, do you only work for clients?
Thanks! Not sure exactly what you mean? When working for money I call them clients. But, I have recently quit freelance, so no more client work for me 😁
Thank you nice clip
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it.
Is there anyway we could have your brushes ?(for photoshop). They seem great to build ruins and stuff like that
Heya, sorry I don't have a well arranged brushpack that I can share at the moment. I will try and get this done when I am less lazy about it! The "architecture" brush is basically two squares vertically arranged with a small space in between. You can see the outline in parts of the video. Easy enough to recreate as a custom brush. Play with brush spacing to get different effects :)
Would really appreciate info on the brushes you use, I see the round and square here but any info on brushes would be appreciated thanks!
+callmedeno I will put something together for you soon. Maybe I will do a quick tips video on my brush set and settings, and share some installable packages. Stay tuned :)
+Amit Dutta wow thanks for the quick reply. That would be great! With its rising popularity I imagine many people will benefit from such a video.
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havent you been featured in the latest sweetfx issue?
great stuff man I really like this way of working myself, I always have trouble connecting my value layers though, and contrast is my enemy.
Hey Oliver! Yep I've had the honour of being featured in imagineFx 131, this month :) Yeah there is a potential for not being able to create a cohesive sense of space between layers when working like this. The key is in the atmospheric perspective and adding more subtle value transitions as you go on. I also constantly am tweaking value contrast as I develop a piece...it rarely is perfect in thumbnails!
+Amit Dutta heres a sketch I just did, I really like this technique, its a very fun way of working. So far I worked "Eytan zana style" and its not nearly as organic as this technique. I will try adding more atmospheric perspective, hopefully it helps.
you can see here this is a WIP of mine: abload.de/img/stationf7ssj.jpg
the contrasts just look weird to me its something Im struggling with a lot.
oh and heres the sketch: abload.de/img/sketchmxsy1.jpg
thanks so much for doing these man, really cool stuff.
+Oliver Beck those are nice dude. I think the second one is very successful, just need to watch putting focal points like the figure so close to canvas edge .If you just think about lighting and start putting broad value shifts of shadow and light into the various layers it will start to feel way more solid.
The first image does have some value issues. Mostly I think there is too much of a range between the darkest and lightest within each layer, and that main building as a single value contrasts with all that a bit much at the moment. Crush down the value range within each layer a bit and get some shadow and light shifts into the building and things will start to look better. I think you need to focus on your lighting at this stage and really start to think about how it would affect things and you'll get somewhere with that.
Nice stuff man! It's always great to see people taking to new processes :)
Keep it up!
+Amit Dutta the architecture was still in progress I usually start with the shapes first, then apply some texture pattern (John J. Park does this a lot, his session 6 gumroad is really good) and add some light and design. alright, got it. Focus on lighting, broad value shifts, too high of an value range.
I'll do some reworks and practice then I`ll check back in!
Hello Amit! When i switch from a brush to the eraser (using the "E" key), how to keep a size for the brush (for instance 100px), and a different size to the eraser (for instance 150px), and keep it on memory every time i switch between them? Im having the following problem: if the brush size is 100px when i switch to the eraser the size its the same (100 px). How to fix that? Thx in advance.
Heya Sonny! Yep, if you go into the edit brush settings, at the very bottom bar you will see a checkbox called "Eraser switch size" It is off by default, if you check it that retains the last sizing of your eraser mode, so you can have different sizes!
Thank you, master! By the way, which tablet do you use? I have a small intuos tablet by wacom, and i must say im kinda disapointed to get used to it. Do you have some way to avoid keep drawing so shaky...strangely it works wonderfully at zbrush, but ive being trying to make a portrait from a photo (looking at the portrait and drawing), and seems using a real pencil its easier....
Actually I use a tiny intuos small...the cheapest one! My large intuos's all broke way too soon. It's always harder to draw on a tablet, and a challenge to get smooth lines, but in the tool options when you have the brush tool selected, is the opportunity to check on "smoothing" This will help you tailor how krita stablises and smooths your strokes. You can turn it on and off with a shortcut that you assign. Do a google search or use the Krita manual to help you figure out what each option does.
thank you pal :)
my pleasure! Happy painting
Hey great tutorial, what program are you using here?
Hey thanks!. It's Krita a really powerful opensource painting program. krita.org/en/
For some reason I can't come up with good shapes like you during my thumbnail process. They all look same and boring too. Do I need to do studies and buildup my visual library?
Well in a short answer...yes. It shows that you aren't used to constructing with or thinking about these kind of fundamentals. Study the large shape patterns you see in master paintings. Also I actually mention this in the video but few seem to pick up on it who have this problem: I mentioned to pick shapes to use prior to each one if you are struggling. Eg. Triangles, circles, 6 sided things., things with repeated shapes or no repeated shapes. The basic design principles applied specifically are also useful (thinking about balance, rhythm/movement, emphasis/contrast, repetition, etc). Read 'Picture This' by Molly Bang. Loomis has things on composition in his Creative Illustration book. If you haven't specifically been using or thinking about shapes they won't necessarily come to you out of your subconcious and it may seem a bit like aimless doodling.
@@MonkeyBreadMagic by studying u mean copying 1 to 1? Also i have been doing value studies from masters and film studies. and i can pretty much paint black and white but i have not started anything in colour yet because i want to do thumbnails like these from imagination too. Is it right or should i now start doing colour studies of masters too?Because design my own scenes even in greayscale is very hard right now
@@shazarjavaid7838 It is hard for me to give you specifics on approaches to take. I have become more averse to telling people what to do or producing more process videos such as this, as everyone is at a different skill level. Without seeing your work it would be hard to give you the best advice on how to address any shortfalls or potential gains. There are many approaches and things to try.
I think the best advice I can give is to practice or do, EXACTLY what it is you want to get better at. If you want to be able to do enviro thumbnails from imagination, do more of that!
Studies from master paintings for composition or the broader value schemes usually will be more efficient if you limit how much detail you put into them, but this shouldn't stop you from doing more detailed observationally accurate work. Both give you different benefits. Concentrate on the broader shapes or values, but try to be as accurate as you can with the shapes and values at the level you will be working with. Also after this you must also do your own compositions from imagination as well if that is what you want to be able to do.
With every study decide up front what specific aspect or aspects it is you are drilling. This should be based on the current "issues" you would like to improve upon.
If you are not able to identify what things to target, try to find or get decent feedback from a SELECT few individuals who you trust and have demonstrable capabilities in their own work. Just keep in mind, not everyone who is skillled at art is good at explaining themselves or giving feedback.
Always remember that most problems or issues in skill of representation come from understanding or lack of a true understanding of the importance of fundamentals. Learn to draw well first! This is key and I cannot stress it enough. Painting is simply drawing with colour and tone added into the mix.
Lastly, don't do everything digitally. There is much less margin for error with traditional work and consequently your skills improve much faster due to the challenge, and these skills will easily translate to your digital work. Do a lot of study from direct observation and from life is possible. Still lifes, plein air etc. Working from life is probably the best way to upskill your general observation and thereby your representation skills.
Get or read Alla Prima (I or II) by Richard Schmid, The Practice and Science of Drawing by Harold Speed. If you want to learn about the true fundamentals to representational art, these are hard to beat. The academic approach has been working at teaching people how to draw for a long time. It works and works for a reason. It teaches you how to represent form and light accurately through careful observation and understanding of what goes into a drawing/painting. Sure many may say you don't need to do that, especially with so many digital tools to shortcut things, but in my experience over the last year, I can only say, I know if I had approached things more academically, I would be much more skilled than I am now.
Anyway this is all a tangent to your question. Hope it isn't too vague.
Amit Dutta big thanks man!
I know the this is old one. But, pls share your krita settings, I m rly confused with the standart. Pls help.
Sorry you'll have to be more specific, what settings?
@@MonkeyBreadMagic o man your videos is dope! Rly.) I about the hotkeys and all this stuff, and I love how u organize all in krita. I m using krita mb one month but I feel the all what i make in a hotkeys settings it's terrible. If this posible, pls share your settings. Sry for my English level.
@@gluebubbler Oh I see. Don't apologise for your English 😊. Hmm well I tend to use mostly default shortcuts but I have made some changes. Tbh my setup now is probably quite a bit different than it was back then. I have been considering doing a few short videos on Krita tools and workflow to get back into creating some new content after many years.
Instead of me trying to describe that perhaps it would be better for me to actually do some of those videos including how to use the perspective assistants, which seems a common question and also share my shortcut settings.
In the meanwhile the Krita help is very useful and worth reading and definitely keep experimenting with your own setup so that it becomes more to your liking!
@@MonkeyBreadMagic I will definitely use the instructions on the official website, thank you! I really hope you get back to running your channel. Your setup video idea is very good. I really love your videos!
please tell me how to turn on the perspective grid on the cursor?
In the tool docker there is a snap to 'assistant' checkbox or some similar worded option. I set a custom key to toggle this on or off as I need to snap to various guides.
@@MonkeyBreadMagic I get that both on the canvas and on the cursor guides, and you only have on the cursor and they are not static...
I'm just repeating myself again but If you have any vanishing point assistants setup on the canvas you can set snap to assistant on the tool options docker when you are using a brush. Obviously you need to set up 3 VP assistants for a 3 point perspective and 2 for 2pt etc.
The shortcut is shift s by default for snapping, I think. Read the krita manual. Almost all technical operation questions can be found there. docs.krita.org/en/user_manual/painting_with_assistants.html#painting-with-assistants
where can I find a good tutorial for using the perspective drawing assistant?
Heya, This page explains each function. docs.krita.org/Painting_With_Assistants There is a link about quarter way down the page to a demo by wolthera, one of the devs of Krita, on setting up VPs with it. I found it a bit rambly, but it does show it in action. The key thing I do extra is make a custom keyboard shortcut in Krita, that is linked to "Toggle Assistant" This allows you to turn on and off constraining your brushstrokes to the various assistant guides you can create. Very useful if you want to paint on and off guide at will.
Thankyou!
which software used in this video...??
Krita
hey can i know what program you are using for the references ?
Sure thing www.pureref.com/
What is the tool that keep the perspective grid on your cursor called?
It's called a perspective assistant in Krita. I basically used 3 vanishing point assistants.
userbase.kde.org/Krita/Manual/Assistants
Thanks! I have got to figure out a way to get that feature as a plugin into photoshop or something.
Check out LazyNezumi pro. I haven't used it myself so I can't say how good it is. Seems a bit more complicated than the krita implementation.
lazynezumi.com/perspective
Thanks! This is just what I was looking for!
What program is this?? No Krita, only screen pictures
www.pureref.com?
yep!
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How long did these actually take you? One thing I've always struggled with in thumbnails is that I've always been told that they're supposed to take no more than ten minutes to do then you move on to the next one when in reality, it takes me way longer to figure things out and to make it look like a coherent thumbnail drawing. I don't think I'm moving too slow, I think that I'm trying to take the time to actually figure out the composition. Whenever I try to speed up and think less, I find I have to do a lot more work in the following stages of the painting. So how long do you usually spend thumbnailing?
Hello! These were probably around the 20 minute mark each. I don't put much stock on prescriptive methods of doing things, like "you must only take 10 mins for thumbnails" I consider these as intermediate value sketches really, because just as you described I really want to address the main ideas, perspective, composition, atmosphere and general sense of lighting. Take as long as YOU need upfront.
It starts to become a problem when doing client work, because time equates to money, so the longer one takes the less one gets paid, at least if we are talking flat fee work. Some people might be able to read 10 minute scrawls others might just ask for more clarification, so I prefer to make it clear to them what they are looking at up front. I think it is useful to get down lots of ideas quickly as well, so something I sometimes do is pen sketch 20 or 30 actual comp almost abstract thumbs, a minute each, but I still need to pick a few to work up a bit more.
Main message, time taken is only a problem when its an actual constraint. otherwise, do it however the heck you like!!! :)
This was very helpful, thank you so much!
You're welcome!
ye man it took me about an hour each lol
how can i use this automatic perspective inside photoshop?
I think Lazy Nezumi has perspective tools for PS and a quick search for 'perspective tool photoshop' will bring up a bunch of other tools. Can't vouch for any of these as i don't use PS
can you upload that pictures?
Try this: drive.google.com/open?id=0B4VInmVSeLZpN3ZXblZvQUVOX1E
I'm having trouble choosing value
I recommend studying master paintings for their value structure, but simplifying them using this approach if you like (ie simplifying an image into layers of major value shifts.) I talk about them in the assignment section of the week 1 video a little th-cam.com/video/zbjoXg_oyRI/w-d-xo.htmlm35s
Thanks so much!!!
Where are you located?
In Middle Earth atm
36:35 That’s what she sad xD
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What program is this??
Hi, it's Krita.
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