Since listening to Middlekauff's excellent podcast, this will be the first time I will have to go through the "dry sports season" like a barren wasteland without football until Sept , especially after the NBA Championship & Stanley Cup . I'll follow John with Golf and anticipate the combine & draft ... i don't know what else there will be. Thank-you John Middlekauff for a great 2023 season !!!
Thank-you John for being truthful about Brock Purdy and not taking the cheap & lazy way of criticizing Brock. Considering Purdy having no protection & being limited by the coaching staff not recognizing his instincts and rolling him out more. Brock Purdy played great ... thank-you
Yeah, after how the players are acting on socials. It’s clear Kyle has lost the locker room and the team needs to be blown up and just get the rebuild started already.
They definitely got a couple more years. There QB is on a super cap friendly rookie deal for the next 2 years. There window isn’t closed. And this is coming from a big Seahawks fan lol
They need a god damn o line..... this has been an issue since Kyle got there. They don't need the greatest o line ever, but it needs alot of help. If brock didn't have a free rusher every time he dropped back for a big pass we score more. Brocks the guy! We have our guy.... they need to protect him. The team needs some shuffling. Maybe Kyle needs to relinquish some control of the offense as well. I thought he coached a good game but I think he needs to focus on the details and let someone call his offense. I think the niners will be fine but some things also need to change
@@WrectumTerrorlmaooo what?? They have everybody coming back next season and Purdy will only get better. Why would they blow anything up. They literally lost the Super Bowl by 3 points in OT 🤣
Really good point John. I’ve been saying for a while now that he should Purdy roll out with Kittle/CMC or Deebo, Juice whoever, on these mid 3rd downs. He can hit them if it’s there and if not take off for the 1st. He’s already proved his initial Burst is very quick and make those 4-10 yards.
I said this and was hated I said trade Deebo for that Jets first and draft Kyle Hamilton he and Huf would be the best safety duo in the NFL with the best LB but no he folded for Deebo who isnt a WR. Purdy over threw him but if Deebo was a actual top 10 WR he still catches that.
Kyle will not will a Super bowl until he realizes that his schemes alone can not overcome his arrogance, disregard for special teams, inconsistent commitment to the run, failure to tailor your offense to your QB, overlooking personnel matchups, Moody's consistent FG/PAT misses, new OT rules prep, game situation prep and lack of details to other phases of the game! Also, accepting responsibility for your consistent failures in SBs and NFCCGs. He will not win a SB as a 49ers HC. Sorry the truth hurts!
If Dre Greenlaw doesn’t tear his Achilles running onto the field I think the Niners win this one. Tip your hat to KC. SF has to withstand them for all 4 quarters (plus OT)
@@irlzy Greenlaw's replacement was torched. I think they said Mahomes went 9/9 when guys he was covering were targeted. So yeah I do think the Greenlaw injury was huge.
@@willzinc6137u ever gonna talk about how the chiefs all pro guard didnt play a snap. or omenihu or bryan cook. or derrick niadi. stop whinning about ur number 2 backer getting hurt
Here's some numbers: Once Dre Greenlaw went down, Oren Burks filled in for him. Here’s how he did in coverage: • 9 targets • 9 catches allowed • 1 touchdown • 134.7 passer rating when targeted • 32.1 PFF coverage grade
Kyle is getting roasted in social media. He is getting 99% of the blame. Andy took 21 years and a firing. Bill B on defense would rock. KC has a great defense. They took out Buffalo and Baltimore on the road. Brock's money is crazy.
All the things they're saying about Shanahan they could've said about Reid before Mahomes. A good coach gives you multiple attempts and Kyle's a good coach, sooner or later he'll land his shot.
@@jaysonsmith7264 actually he’s one that needs more great seasons to have a shot. Bosa, Trent Williams, Fred Warner, George kittle. It’s obvious you don’t know much about football lol
@@Stoicmind89 Trent's the only sure fire HOFer if all their careers ended today IMO. Bosa, CMC, Kittle and Warner are all on a HOF trajectory but I doubt any would make it yet.
What drives me crazy about Kyle is for being an offensive genius, his offense doesn't adapt. He runs his scheme (which is awesome), but when it doesn't work against the great teams, he has no plan B. Andy has adapted and changed, Kyle has not. Just like you said John, roll Purdy out, do some RPOs, get him moving, throw some curve balls in the scheme that the D isn't ready for. And why did he abandon the run game in the 2nd half?
Coming from a Vegas resident, living in Vegas and visiting Vegas are completely different experiences. I don’t dislike it, but it’s definitely not for everyone
@@thecostanzatheory die hard cowboys fan here. Emmitt made that line. 1-2 without Emmitt Smith in 1993 (his MVP and SB MVP season). Washington won 3 SBs in a 9-10 year span with 3 different starting QBs and 3 different starting Hbs.
This is 100% what I needed to hear. I think he and his staff can get us there. There's gotta be one superbowl where things go right for him. Forever Faithful 😤 GO Niners!
He won’t win one his preparation is piss poor and game management if bad if he Purdy doesn’t develop into an elite qb to overcome his faults it’ll be the same exact result every time how many more times do we need to see it he’s shown you who he is believe him
I don’t know why all of you people have so much faith in Kyle Shanahan let me enlighten you people it took Kyle four years to get back to the Super Bowl and that’s what a loaded roster. If you think this current roster has another four years left you guys are delusional. Look at the ages of these guys. They are all getting older And let me tell you something about Kyle Shanahan. He did not know the overtime rules. I have a video of a reporter asking him after the Super Bowl what did you regret about the overtime situation he responded I wish we would’ve scored a touchdown when we had the ball to not give Patrick Mahomes a Chance to beat us what the hell is Kyle talking about? It doesn’t matter if the 49ers score touchdown Kansas City still gets the ball back. That literally told me Kyle did not know the new overtime rules but you guys want him back and you have faith in a coach that doesn’t even know the newest rules that were in place at the beginning of this season to me that’s a fireable offense
This SF team was good enough to win the game, and played well enough to win. Against most teams it would have been enough. But it came down to elite situational play by KC.
No, he won’t. And I’m a die hard Niners fan. Since being with the Niners, he pulled off the WORST draft trade in NFL history and now has Blown 2 Super Bowls. He needs to go!!
@@R17759 Yeah, cause Purdy came in and bailed him out. It is relevant, it’s on his resume. Any other coach gives up 3 1st round picks for a guy they trade 2 seasons later, would’ve already been fired.
I'm a huge Middlekauff fan and agree with much of this. But the take "Andy had Chiefs prepared, Kyle did not" is false. Hell, the KC receiver who caught the walk off TD did not know this new rule "NFL's new overtime rules were confusing for just about everyone Sunday, including Mecole Hardman. In fact, after he scored the game-winning touchdown at Allegiant Stadium, Hardman had no idea that the Kansas City Chiefs had won their second consecutive Super Bowl." -- Yahoo Sports.
That's because he lacks muscle between the ears. He's not the most gifted thinker. One of the reasons MVS now has his job is Hardman repeatedly made the same mistakes. Hardman still has a role on this team but it's nowhere near as large as it once was.
It’s crazy to see people hating on Kyle. Yes, he is still knocking on the door. Success is not falling in his lap. You know who else took awhile to get to the top - Andy Reid. Fact. An offensive coach who had great teams in Philly with a pretty good QB and a cast of very talented players who came and went. They seemed to have winning seasons almost every year, but would get bounced in the playoffs, sometimes in the Championship game. He even made it all the way to the Super Bowl and blew that too. But he stuck it out and now we talk about him as one of the greatest coaches of all time. Multiple superbowl rings. We forget that not that long ago he was Kyle Shannahan. You wait; Kyle is a great coach. He’s not there at the top yet. He’s still on his way up.
Agreed…Kyle is a phenomenal coach….for some insane reason we ignore context and nuance. We’ve already forgotten Andy Reid was a “choker”, now he’s in the GOAT convo, what changed? Belichick has 6 rings as HC, now he’s unemployed, what changed? How many rings did Walsh win without Montana? How about Reid without Mahomes? Belichick without Brady? Lombardi? Noll? Cowher/Tomlin? Hmmmmmmmm. Kyle has made the SB twice, with a third appearance as an amazing OC who was clearly more important than the HC….with Purdy/JimmyG/Matt Ryan….we GUSH about Andy making it ONCE with a great Philly team QBd by McNabb. Kyle has made it 3 times. Lost to Brady and Mahomes….Andy’s two losses are to Brady. We’re literally judging Kyle for not having A GOAT QB lol. How dumb is that? Even the legit criticism only manifests cause of the loss…if the Chiefs lost then there’d be plenty of criticism but that all disappeared with the win. Stop this idiotic nonsense.
It's clear to me that The Niners got outcoached in the Super Bowl. Spags is a better defensive coach than Wilks. Reid is a better offensive coach than Kyle. The Chiefs made adjustments at halftime on both sides of the ball and Niners did not. The Chiefs were well prepared for OT and the Niners were not...
Any real niners fan is just flat out devastated right now. That game will sting forever. Shanahan might’ve lost the locker room. It’s one of those losses man. It really is
Dude is 0-3 yet you still believe. Hell be 0-4, 0-5 and youll have the same opinion. The fact of the matter is you will never hold Kyle accountable no matter the end result. Ok, we got it.
Kyle will never win a championship. I repeat, KYLE SHANNAHAN, will never win a SB in San Francisco. He had All-Pros everywhere in a weak division and he played against a KC team that was on a down year. KC is coming next year and our division is going to get better. It’s over, stop capping for Kyle💀
The players know that KYLE is the problem. BOTTOM LINE ! ~ This why KYLE demanded a contract extension early in the season (for still winning NOTHING). ~ As a narcissist, he knows his nature and lack of impulse control. ~ At least we know there will be no 'revenge' or 'bounce back' next season, as we all know that we are DONE. ~ An overwhelming vote of 'NO confidence ' on KYLE, has finally arrived. ~ NO ONE from the organization ( esp. KYLE!) has APOLIGIZED TO THE FANS ! ! What the hell ......? ! ?
The more I review and listen to this game, the more I see that the 49ers had SO MANY CHANCES to win this game. This is really the one you need to walk away with.
Kyle got out coached by Spags and didn't know the OT rules. Came up short again in the big game but nothing will change because Jed is happy just making the conference championship game.. and Kyle thinks everything he does is perfect. How will we ever win?
I think the reason people talk about Shanahan and the Falcons collapse is because he's gone on to choke two more Super Bowls as a head coach. Nobody gave Shanahan much heat for 28-3 until he choked the Super Bowl in 2019, and now they're talking more about 28-3 after he choked this year's Super Bowl. When you've choked two Super Bowls as a head coach, having been a part of a previous choke as a coordinator does not help your case whatsoever
Oh I still give him plenty of heat. KC called a TON of pass plays in the 2nd half of that Falcons SB collapse. Did not rely on running and draining the clock and letting the falcons defense rest. Constant 3 and outs. Just absolutely refused to adjust his pass happy plan
He's had enough experience to reflect and yet hasn't changed. He's terrible at adjusting and terrible at picking the best play for the moment situational awareness football. As an example in the third quarter the intercepted Patrick mahomes and got nothing from it completely unacceptable. They supposed to be have one of the best tackles in football and the best running back. They should have ran the ball up the middle and at a minimum had a field goal attempt. The chiefs made us pay when we muffed the punt. I understand that they got better field position but if the roles were reversed you can bet that Reid and mahomes would have made sure they got at minimum three points.
I think we improve through free agency. What we need to improve on is decision making in clutch situations when things aren't going our way, we did that against Green Bay and Detroit but rarely ever before that in huge monumental moments.
Kyle is the weakest link in the big game. 2 playoff games play calling was terrible, and SB got exposed. He would never admit it is his fault. He is a choker.
You are 1000% correct about Kyle needing to implement some plays to utilize Purdy’s athleticism… if Kyle evolves his offense to feature a few of those types of plays per game, they could be unstoppable.
Wilks was not the reason for the loss. Come on, now. So if the main change next year is a new DC you will be disappointed again. KS got DRUNK during SB week! That alone deserves major scrutiny. The dubious decisions he made during the game are not a fluke but rather part of an established pattern as is Kyle's penchant for never taking responsibility his screw-ups. With a know-nothing owner who never holds Kyle accountable, what incentive is there for Kyle to change? What we be different next year? Kyle soiled himself under pressure yet again as he is wont to do. Maybe he'll get lucky next year, but I wouldn't bet on it.
Andy reid was called a choker who couldn’t win the big game before mahomes. He’s now considered in the argument for the greatest coach ever. Purdy is fine, but in todays NFL, you need an elite QB if you’re facing an elite QB. There’s no shame in losing a Super Bowl to Patrick mahomes or Tom Brady.
So i think next year we'll have more injuries and lose a few more games BUT it will force Purdy to take more control of the offense and be more of a leader. I hope he gets better with pre snap reads and kyle allows him to audible more and i hope we use Mitchell and mason more to keep cmc fresh
Stop lying to people about KS. KS has totally mismanaged 49 assets on and off the field since he became HC at SF. York & KS are not Eddy D & Walsh. The team deserves better but there stuck with KS & York. Defense didn't loose this SB it was the Offense/Play calling and Lack of preparation. KS is 0/3 in SBs.
The players know that KYLE is the problem. BOTTOM LINE ! ~ This why KYLE demanded a contract extension early in the season (for still winning NOTHING). ~ As a narcissist, he knows his nature and lack of impulse control. ~ At least we know there will be no 'revenge' or 'bounce back' next season, as we all know that we are DONE. ~ An overwhelming vote of 'NO confidence ' on KYLE, has finally arrived. ~ NO ONE from the organization ( esp. KYLE!) has APOLIGIZED TO THE FANS ! ! What the hell ......? ! ?
Great analysis! Your take on the criticism of Kyle Shanahan is fair and balanced. Time will tell, and you may be right that eventually, Kyle will win a Super Bowl Championship. However, I am holding onto my opinion that Kyle will end up like Dan Reeves.
I don’t think we lost the locker room. People were just furious about the outcome and emotional. I re watched the film and the oline got exposed. Debo and Aiyuk couldn’t get seperation. In my opinion the only WR beating coverage consistently was JJ and for whatever reason Brock looked at him as his 4th read but the line barely held up enough to progress to 3 reads.
I think the Niners can if Kyles the OC. He plays too safe and overthinks decisions. Run the ball on 3rd and 4 and if you don’t get there run it again so Pat Mahomes never gets the ball back. You lose if you don’t get there but assuming the defense will stop possibly who will be the best QB ever and one of the best coaches with 1:50 left and 2 time outs was immature
I believe in Kyle Shanahan....he has mostly succeeded everywhere he went.....as an assistant coach...and now a head coach....just look at Andy Reid he went 20yrs before he won it big....and it takes a little luck and some talent to win it all.
my issue for isnt the OT decision. 9ers had ball under 2 min and didnt play 4 downs. kyle settled for field goal at the start of series or in 2nd down. 9ers couldve ended game there
Damn, you confirmed what I was thinking about both Kyle and Brock!!!! I agree with you that they should have rolled out Brock Purdy throughout the game. I knew that they were bringing the got damn blitz on 3rd down after the 49ers defense got the pick on Patrick Mahomes. Next, if it's 4th and short on their side of the field, you need to go for it depending on the time on the clock. Get him on the got damn move instead of all the freaking dropback passes.
The reason the 49ers arent Champions is because theyre afraid to face and admit that the problem is Kyle. For as good of a coach & clever schemes he develops, Kyle Coaches Insane. Good Coaches are popular, Great Coaches are Champions. Kyle is not a great coach because he lacks the ability to close games. The manner in how he loses these SBs is beyond pathetic and the fact that he's pulled it off 3times is unacceptable. Without a doubt Kyle proved he's consistent at choking. He should not be given a fourth bite at the apple. And who's to say the Niners ever make it back again. Fire Kyle now before you waste another season regretting not doing it sooner.
If he couldn't win with that roster and with that cheap QB contract then it'll only get harder.....Also, probably gonna need a better QB. Purdy did fine, he was good but you don't win BC of Purdy, hes not that Elite guy...And he'll never be the better QB in a SB vs any top AFC contender.... just a couple of the top of my head, Mahomes, Lamar, Allen, Stroud, Herbert....Maybe Rodgers & Watson or even Lawrence. You might be able to get away with Purdy with thst stacked roster in the NFC, but vs AFC teams, it'll be Jimmy G 2.0, he won't get it done
Regarding the falcons/patriots sb, how the hell can he be blamed for the defense giving up a 25 point lead. Just because they didn’t keep scoring with reckless abandon doesn’t mean the offense lost the game when the defense couldn’t figure out how to stop Brady toward the end of the game.
I understand that there are random outliers that you might miss (hence outliers) and will need to prep for in the future - but not prepping your team of the new overtime rules is just malpractice and inexcusable. Overtime is a normal course of the game all coaches and players should be aware of is something especially no team in the Superbowl should overlook. Just egregious showing all around. Shanahan really needs to tread carefully this offseason and make sure he doesn't lose the locker room - these vets know how hard it is to get to that game and it's always their body on the line. If they see a coach that's just coaching for his pride and legacy, this may be another start to a mass exodus and dreary days for the Niners.
It's the players fault, they're professionals and just making excuses. Are they babies or something? Do they need to be told to look both ways before they cross the road, told to wipe their backside after taking a dump? I hope not.
Great take. I think alot of us just like the players are really still hurting. Everyone calls for kyles damn job every year and that is so annoying. One year well break through i know it. Big pictures is we gabe them more hell then the bills and ravens. Still came up short. Its hard to lose but man the chiefs are just great at the wrong time for us. If they werent here i feel like wed be the team going for a 3 peat.
I've said to many people the season started, they wouldn't win the big game, Kyle to stubborn to change his ways, and look what happened, they blame it on wills.
Steve Jones says the Super Bowl Champ will be shuffled between 4 or 5 QBs over the next decade (and Purdy is not in that group) though Burrow is 5 - 1 against Mahomes and Allen (one penalty away from 6 - 0) so stay tuned...
I don’t know what you are smoking. Everyone knows Kyle Shanahan is Marv Levy. 49ers are one loss away from being in the same discussion as Buffalo Bills. They are making 30 for 30 on this 49ers team. The title is “The best that never was”!😂
Since listening to Middlekauff's excellent podcast, this will be the first time I will have to go through the "dry sports season" like a barren wasteland without football until Sept , especially after the NBA Championship & Stanley Cup . I'll follow John with Golf and anticipate the combine & draft ... i don't know what else there will be.
Thank-you John Middlekauff for a great 2023 season !!!
Hear, hear! 👏👏👏
catch up on watching college games from the 2023 season during the dry spell
Thank-you John for being truthful about Brock Purdy and not taking the cheap & lazy way of criticizing Brock.
Considering Purdy having no protection & being limited by the coaching staff not recognizing his instincts and rolling him out more.
Brock Purdy played great ... thank-you
John is a loser. The 49ers were out coached. Simple as that.
We are the new Buffalo Bills😢
at least u get to make the SB bc ur in the NFC
Hopefully the Bills of the late 80's and early 90's, and not the Bills of the 2000s.
Yep
Marv Shanahan
1 more superbowl lost then yes
Nah I think this was their chance, I don't think this version of the 49ers is making it back.
Yeah, after how the players are acting on socials. It’s clear Kyle has lost the locker room and the team needs to be blown up and just get the rebuild started already.
They definitely got a couple more years. There QB is on a super cap friendly rookie deal for the next 2 years. There window isn’t closed. And this is coming from a big Seahawks fan lol
They need a god damn o line..... this has been an issue since Kyle got there. They don't need the greatest o line ever, but it needs alot of help. If brock didn't have a free rusher every time he dropped back for a big pass we score more. Brocks the guy! We have our guy.... they need to protect him. The team needs some shuffling. Maybe Kyle needs to relinquish some control of the offense as well. I thought he coached a good game but I think he needs to focus on the details and let someone call his offense. I think the niners will be fine but some things also need to change
@@WrectumTerrorlmaooo what?? They have everybody coming back next season and Purdy will only get better. Why would they blow anything up. They literally lost the Super Bowl by 3 points in OT 🤣
I agree, the team is fractured. I fear we're gonna look like the eagles this year.
I cant wait to see how brock uses this as motivation. Hes going to get better hes not rehabbing this off season
His first real offseason.
Loved hearing that story where Andy Reid invited you over for Thanksgiving. He's just that kinda coach.
Go look into what happened to his sons
@@D-V-C-Ndoesn’t mean he is a bad guy. I know plenty of crap parents with great kids. I know plenty of great parents with bad apples. It happens
What 49ers fans need from Kyle is to be the ultimate "Game Manager" going forward. Not Purdy.
Really good point John. I’ve been saying for a while now that he should Purdy roll out with Kittle/CMC or Deebo, Juice whoever, on these mid 3rd downs. He can hit them if it’s there and if not take off for the 1st. He’s already proved his initial Burst is very quick and make those 4-10 yards.
Kyle Shanahan is turning into the Doc Rivers of the NFL
No because doc actually won
@@richrancy ha! you got me. I forgot about that because it was almost 20 years ago 😂
u cant compare coaches in football and basketball
@@jaysonsmith7264 these talking heads do it all the time. make sure you tell Cowherd next time you see him.
That'd be Mike tomlin.
I do think they can win one, but I don’t think people understand how much luck goes into winning the Super Bowl.
the voice john used for ''mike, you won that super bowl like 15 years ago'' took me out😂😂😂
Niners should have let Deebo go when he wanted to leave
I said this and was hated I said trade Deebo for that Jets first and draft Kyle Hamilton he and Huf would be the best safety duo in the NFL with the best LB but no he folded for Deebo who isnt a WR. Purdy over threw him but if Deebo was a actual top 10 WR he still catches that.
Kyle will not will a Super bowl until he realizes that his schemes alone can not overcome his arrogance, disregard for special teams, inconsistent commitment to the run, failure to tailor your offense to your QB, overlooking personnel matchups, Moody's consistent FG/PAT misses, new OT rules prep, game situation prep and lack of details to other phases of the game! Also, accepting responsibility for your consistent failures in SBs and NFCCGs. He will not win a SB as a 49ers HC. Sorry the truth hurts!
:( Lots of truth there
If Dre Greenlaw doesn’t tear his Achilles running onto the field I think the Niners win this one. Tip your hat to KC. SF has to withstand them for all 4 quarters (plus OT)
bruh this niners team was stacked, just because you lost one good player doesnt mean you would have won
@@irlzy Greenlaw's replacement was torched. I think they said Mahomes went 9/9 when guys he was covering were targeted. So yeah I do think the Greenlaw injury was huge.
@@willzinc6137u ever gonna talk about how the chiefs all pro guard didnt play a snap. or omenihu or bryan cook. or derrick niadi. stop whinning about ur number 2 backer getting hurt
Here's some numbers: Once Dre Greenlaw went down, Oren Burks filled in for him. Here’s how he did in coverage:
• 9 targets
• 9 catches allowed
• 1 touchdown
• 134.7 passer rating when targeted
• 32.1 PFF coverage grade
@@irlzy "one good player" who happens to be Kelce's kryptonite and is flying all over the field.
Kyle is getting roasted in social media. He is getting 99% of the blame. Andy took 21 years and a firing. Bill B on defense would rock. KC has a great defense. They took out Buffalo and Baltimore on the road. Brock's money is crazy.
"Andy took 14 years and a firing" - Andy took 21 years...
@@musa7606 Andy didn't win for 21 years. Wow, I guess Kyle has time. Thanks.
@@karenhardie1132 Didn't make his 2nd SB for 21 years...
I’m gonna miss John’s games analysis. However, looking forward to the free agents season and the 2024 draft. I love all his videos
All the things they're saying about Shanahan they could've said about Reid before Mahomes. A good coach gives you multiple attempts and Kyle's a good coach, sooner or later he'll land his shot.
Hell no … those Philly teams didn’t have multiple HOF
@@justicestylesmy guy who are these multiple HOF on the 9ers😂😂. the only HoF is maybe CMC
@@jaysonsmith7264 actually he’s one that needs more great seasons to have a shot. Bosa, Trent Williams, Fred Warner, George kittle. It’s obvious you don’t know much about football lol
@@justicestyles TO and Brian Dawkins ring a bell?
@@Stoicmind89 Trent's the only sure fire HOFer if all their careers ended today IMO. Bosa, CMC, Kittle and Warner are all on a HOF trajectory but I doubt any would make it yet.
Blaming Wilks here is hilarious
Yup, Kyle called the timeout and then Chiefs had a big gain so that change in play was wrong
What drives me crazy about Kyle is for being an offensive genius, his offense doesn't adapt. He runs his scheme (which is awesome), but when it doesn't work against the great teams, he has no plan B. Andy has adapted and changed, Kyle has not. Just like you said John, roll Purdy out, do some RPOs, get him moving, throw some curve balls in the scheme that the D isn't ready for. And why did he abandon the run game in the 2nd half?
Coming from a Vegas resident, living in Vegas and visiting Vegas are completely different experiences. I don’t dislike it, but it’s definitely not for everyone
I don’t think it’s Steve wilks fault. They put up 19 points in regulation. It’s shanny fault if anything
What Gibbs/Beathard did with 3 different QBs, none in HoF, is extraordinary.
They had the best offensive line ever!!!
@@SinaSoh Aikman Cowboys had the best OL ever
@@thecostanzatheory die hard cowboys fan here. Emmitt made that line. 1-2 without Emmitt Smith in 1993 (his MVP and SB MVP season).
Washington won 3 SBs in a 9-10 year span with 3 different starting QBs and 3 different starting Hbs.
This is 100% what I needed to hear. I think he and his staff can get us there. There's gotta be one superbowl where things go right for him. Forever Faithful 😤 GO Niners!
He won’t win one his preparation is piss poor and game management if bad if he Purdy doesn’t develop into an elite qb to overcome his faults it’ll be the same exact result every time how many more times do we need to see it he’s shown you who he is believe him
It's just as likely that he doesn't get to another Super Bowl the next 5 years
I don’t know why all of you people have so much faith in Kyle Shanahan let me enlighten you people it took Kyle four years to get back to the Super Bowl and that’s what a loaded roster. If you think this current roster has another four years left you guys are delusional. Look at the ages of these guys. They are all getting older And let me tell you something about Kyle Shanahan. He did not know the overtime rules. I have a video of a reporter asking him after the Super Bowl what did you regret about the overtime situation he responded I wish we would’ve scored a touchdown when we had the ball to not give Patrick Mahomes a Chance to beat us what the hell is Kyle talking about? It doesn’t matter if the 49ers score touchdown Kansas City still gets the ball back. That literally told me Kyle did not know the new overtime rules but you guys want him back and you have faith in a coach that doesn’t even know the newest rules that were in place at the beginning of this season to me that’s a fireable offense
This SF team was good enough to win the game, and played well enough to win. Against most teams it would have been enough. But it came down to elite situational play by KC.
23:21 idk about that bro. Super Bowl losses can take toll on your well being. I’m good.
BUT after that time out Kyle called to change the defense the Chiefs had a big gain. Kyle is a CHOKER
Kyle definitely deserves to take blame for the Atlanta Superbowl.
No, he won’t. And I’m a die hard Niners fan.
Since being with the Niners, he pulled off the WORST draft trade in NFL history and now has Blown 2 Super Bowls.
He needs to go!!
This is actual insanity. Trey Lance is irrelevant. They still have the best roster in the league.
@@R17759 Yeah, cause Purdy came in and bailed him out. It is relevant, it’s on his resume. Any other coach gives up 3 1st round picks for a guy they trade 2 seasons later, would’ve already been fired.
I'm a huge Middlekauff fan and agree with much of this. But the take "Andy had Chiefs prepared, Kyle did not" is false. Hell, the KC receiver who caught the walk off TD did not know this new rule "NFL's new overtime rules were confusing for just about everyone Sunday, including Mecole Hardman. In fact, after he scored the game-winning touchdown at Allegiant Stadium, Hardman had no idea that the Kansas City Chiefs had won their second consecutive Super Bowl." -- Yahoo Sports.
That's because he lacks muscle between the ears. He's not the most gifted thinker. One of the reasons MVS now has his job is Hardman repeatedly made the same mistakes. Hardman still has a role on this team but it's nowhere near as large as it once was.
It’s crazy to see people hating on Kyle. Yes, he is still knocking on the door. Success is not falling in his lap. You know who else took awhile to get to the top - Andy Reid. Fact. An offensive coach who had great teams in Philly with a pretty good QB and a cast of very talented players who came and went. They seemed to have winning seasons almost every year, but would get bounced in the playoffs, sometimes in the Championship game. He even made it all the way to the Super Bowl and blew that too. But he stuck it out and now we talk about him as one of the greatest coaches of all time. Multiple superbowl rings. We forget that not that long ago he was Kyle Shannahan. You wait; Kyle is a great coach. He’s not there at the top yet. He’s still on his way up.
Delsusional. Kyle melts under pressure in big games like no other.
Great podcast, John, Thank You!
John simping for his savior Kyle Shanahan again.
Its takes some ppl all day to recognize sunshine. 🌞
Agreed…Kyle is a phenomenal coach….for some insane reason we ignore context and nuance. We’ve already forgotten Andy Reid was a “choker”, now he’s in the GOAT convo, what changed? Belichick has 6 rings as HC, now he’s unemployed, what changed? How many rings did Walsh win without Montana? How about Reid without Mahomes? Belichick without Brady? Lombardi? Noll? Cowher/Tomlin? Hmmmmmmmm. Kyle has made the SB twice, with a third appearance as an amazing OC who was clearly more important than the HC….with Purdy/JimmyG/Matt Ryan….we GUSH about Andy making it ONCE with a great Philly team QBd by McNabb. Kyle has made it 3 times. Lost to Brady and Mahomes….Andy’s two losses are to Brady. We’re literally judging Kyle for not having A GOAT QB lol. How dumb is that? Even the legit criticism only manifests cause of the loss…if the Chiefs lost then there’d be plenty of criticism but that all disappeared with the win. Stop this idiotic nonsense.
It's clear to me that The Niners got outcoached in the Super Bowl. Spags is a better defensive coach than Wilks. Reid is a better offensive coach than Kyle. The Chiefs made adjustments at halftime on both sides of the ball and Niners did not. The Chiefs were well prepared for OT and the Niners were not...
This team has destroyed my mental health
Any real niners fan is just flat out devastated right now. That game will sting forever. Shanahan might’ve lost the locker room. It’s one of those losses man. It really is
Dude is 0-3 yet you still believe. Hell be 0-4, 0-5 and youll have the same opinion. The fact of the matter is you will never hold Kyle accountable no matter the end result. Ok, we got it.
Kyle will never win a championship. I repeat, KYLE SHANNAHAN, will never win a SB in San Francisco. He had All-Pros everywhere in a weak division and he played against a KC team that was on a down year. KC is coming next year and our division is going to get better. It’s over, stop capping for Kyle💀
The players know that KYLE is the problem. BOTTOM LINE !
~ This why KYLE demanded a contract extension early in the season (for still winning NOTHING).
~ As a narcissist, he knows his nature and lack of impulse control.
~ At least we know there will be no 'revenge' or 'bounce back' next season, as we all know that we are DONE.
~ An overwhelming vote of 'NO confidence ' on KYLE, has finally arrived.
~ NO ONE from the organization ( esp. KYLE!) has APOLIGIZED TO THE FANS ! ! What the hell ......? ! ?
@@readyfortheworld9232 Bro, it’s freaking ridiculous fam💀
@@MrKwatts27 Hitting right on the money !
The more I review and listen to this game, the more I see that the 49ers had SO MANY CHANCES to win this game.
This is really the one you need to walk away with.
Kyle got out coached by Spags and didn't know the OT rules. Came up short again in the big game but nothing will change because Jed is happy just making the conference championship game.. and Kyle thinks everything he does is perfect. How will we ever win?
I think the reason people talk about Shanahan and the Falcons collapse is because he's gone on to choke two more Super Bowls as a head coach. Nobody gave Shanahan much heat for 28-3 until he choked the Super Bowl in 2019, and now they're talking more about 28-3 after he choked this year's Super Bowl. When you've choked two Super Bowls as a head coach, having been a part of a previous choke as a coordinator does not help your case whatsoever
Oh I still give him plenty of heat. KC called a TON of pass plays in the 2nd half of that Falcons SB collapse. Did not rely on running and draining the clock and letting the falcons defense rest. Constant 3 and outs. Just absolutely refused to adjust his pass happy plan
I think they have one more year to have a shot at it. After that, Cap Hell is going to hit them HARD.
And their main guys will be old after one more year (mccaffrey, trent, kittle, even deebo since he takes so many hits).
not to mention brandon aiyuk is asking out on his socials
As long as Purdy is QB, they will make the playoffs
@@jacobbergstrom9185 😂😂
Belichick has six rings, didn't stop him from getting booted from New England.
Yes after 4 years of being lost at sea and only trending downwards, not the instant they didn't win the Superbowl
Mike did not learn from the past.when all Atlanta had to do was run down the clock Even a little bit would have been enough.
Not as long as he gets "feelings" in the middle of the game and gives up on the run game. No doubt he blew this game.
He's had enough experience to reflect and yet hasn't changed. He's terrible at adjusting and terrible at picking the best play for the moment situational awareness football. As an example in the third quarter the intercepted Patrick mahomes and got nothing from it completely unacceptable. They supposed to be have one of the best tackles in football and the best running back. They should have ran the ball up the middle and at a minimum had a field goal attempt. The chiefs made us pay when we muffed the punt. I understand that they got better field position but if the roles were reversed you can bet that Reid and mahomes would have made sure they got at minimum three points.
I think we improve through free agency. What we need to improve on is decision making in clutch situations when things aren't going our way, we did that against Green Bay and Detroit but rarely ever before that in huge monumental moments.
Kyle is the weakest link in the big game. 2 playoff games play calling was terrible, and SB got exposed. He would never admit it is his fault. He is a choker.
Still remember Juan Soto hit against the padres I was there in person for that game it’s a different type of energy and feeling it’s crazy
You are 1000% correct about Kyle needing to implement some plays to utilize Purdy’s athleticism… if Kyle evolves his offense to feature a few of those types of plays per game, they could be unstoppable.
Wilks was not the reason for the loss. Come on, now. So if the main change next year is a new DC you will be disappointed again. KS got DRUNK during SB week! That alone deserves major scrutiny. The dubious decisions he made during the game are not a fluke but rather part of an established pattern as is Kyle's penchant for never taking responsibility his screw-ups. With a know-nothing owner who never holds Kyle accountable, what incentive is there for Kyle to change? What we be different next year?
Kyle soiled himself under pressure yet again as he is wont to do. Maybe he'll get lucky next year, but I wouldn't bet on it.
Andy reid was called a choker who couldn’t win the big game before mahomes. He’s now considered in the argument for the greatest coach ever. Purdy is fine, but in todays NFL, you need an elite QB if you’re facing an elite QB. There’s no shame in losing a Super Bowl to Patrick mahomes or Tom Brady.
I just look at Andy and I smile. I look at Bill, and I say, "Where's the toilet tissue?"
So i think next year we'll have more injuries and lose a few more games BUT it will force Purdy to take more control of the offense and be more of a leader. I hope he gets better with pre snap reads and kyle allows him to audible more and i hope we use Mitchell and mason more to keep cmc fresh
First sensible thing you’ve said in weeks
While it's not a good look having to call a timeout to stop a call from your DC. Wilks still had a much better game than Kyle.
Stop lying to people about KS. KS has totally mismanaged 49 assets on and off the field since he became HC at SF. York & KS are not Eddy D & Walsh. The team deserves better but there stuck with KS & York. Defense didn't loose this SB it was the Offense/Play calling and Lack of preparation. KS is 0/3 in SBs.
The players know that KYLE is the problem. BOTTOM LINE !
~ This why KYLE demanded a contract extension early in the season (for still winning NOTHING).
~ As a narcissist, he knows his nature and lack of impulse control.
~ At least we know there will be no 'revenge' or 'bounce back' next season, as we all know that we are DONE.
~ An overwhelming vote of 'NO confidence ' on KYLE, has finally arrived.
~ NO ONE from the organization ( esp. KYLE!) has APOLIGIZED TO THE FANS ! ! What the hell ......? ! ?
Great analysis! Your take on the criticism of Kyle Shanahan is fair and balanced. Time will tell, and you may be right that eventually, Kyle will win a Super Bowl Championship. However, I am holding onto my opinion that Kyle will end up like Dan Reeves.
I don’t think we lost the locker room. People were just furious about the outcome and emotional. I re watched the film and the oline got exposed. Debo and Aiyuk couldn’t get seperation. In my opinion the only WR beating coverage consistently was JJ and for whatever reason Brock looked at him as his 4th read but the line barely held up enough to progress to 3 reads.
At least Shanahan has about 40 years to prove John right and win a Superbowl.
I think the Niners can if Kyles the OC. He plays too safe and overthinks decisions. Run the ball on 3rd and 4 and if you don’t get there run it again so Pat Mahomes never gets the ball back. You lose if you don’t get there but assuming the defense will stop possibly who will be the best QB ever and one of the best coaches with 1:50 left and 2 time outs was immature
Shanny and moody take all the blame for this loss
I believe in Kyle Shanahan....he has mostly succeeded everywhere he went.....as an assistant coach...and now a head coach....just look at Andy Reid he went 20yrs before he won it big....and it takes a little luck and some talent to win it all.
Mahomes is what rodgers was supposed to be
So right about living in Vegas which is why I moved there. Nothing like it 👌
my issue for isnt the OT decision. 9ers had ball under 2 min and didnt play 4 downs. kyle settled for field goal at the start of series or in 2nd down. 9ers couldve ended game there
Not with Jimmy Gorroplo 2.0, Brock Turdy.
Not with Kyle "let me forget to run the ball in the 3rd quarter while we have CMC" Shanahan. Maybe he should let his Dad call plays after the half.
3 and out should be the motto for th3 49ers moving forward
Damn, you confirmed what I was thinking about both Kyle and Brock!!!! I agree with you that they should have rolled out Brock Purdy throughout the game. I knew that they were bringing the got damn blitz on 3rd down after the 49ers defense got the pick on Patrick Mahomes. Next, if it's 4th and short on their side of the field, you need to go for it depending on the time on the clock. Get him on the got damn move instead of all the freaking dropback passes.
The Niners are not gonna be back next year. I feel some players are not coming back.
If Kyle is this era’s Andy Reid, it’ll take 20 years and he’s not going to win a Super Bowl until the niners force him out of town.
I heard he was severely hungover and it effected his playing calling
This Chiefs fan would take him as a Reid replacement. He's good.
I believe in him also! I just can’t even fathom why people are such haters.
The reason the 49ers arent Champions is because theyre afraid to face and admit that the problem is Kyle. For as good of a coach & clever schemes he develops, Kyle Coaches Insane. Good Coaches are popular, Great Coaches are Champions. Kyle is not a great coach because he lacks the ability to close games. The manner in how he loses these SBs is beyond pathetic and the fact that he's pulled it off 3times is unacceptable. Without a doubt Kyle proved he's consistent at choking. He should not be given a fourth bite at the apple. And who's to say the Niners ever make it back again.
Fire Kyle now before you waste another season regretting not doing it sooner.
SITUATIONAL FOOTBALL something Kyle despises
CMC lost this game by setting the tone of a black cloud. 🌧️
If deferring is such a big advantage, the rules are broken-
You believe in Kyle is like you're saying you believe in Lamar
If he couldn't win with that roster and with that cheap QB contract then it'll only get harder.....Also, probably gonna need a better QB. Purdy did fine, he was good but you don't win BC of Purdy, hes not that Elite guy...And he'll never be the better QB in a SB vs any top AFC contender.... just a couple of the top of my head, Mahomes, Lamar, Allen, Stroud, Herbert....Maybe Rodgers & Watson or even Lawrence. You might be able to get away with Purdy with thst stacked roster in the NFC, but vs AFC teams, it'll be Jimmy G 2.0, he won't get it done
I like Bill as the DC but his ego would never take a backseat
Regarding the falcons/patriots sb, how the hell can he be blamed for the defense giving up a 25 point lead.
Just because they didn’t keep scoring with reckless abandon doesn’t mean the offense lost the game when the defense couldn’t figure out how to stop Brady toward the end of the game.
He didn't run the ball to run the clock down and make the game shorter. Gave Brady all the time in the world to make a comeback.
Shanny 100% blew 28-3. It should be on his head stone. Dan Quinn didn't call the offense.
He defense was smoked and the offense had been sitting for a long time. He drew up a great script to score a TD the oline blew their assignments.
I understand that there are random outliers that you might miss (hence outliers) and will need to prep for in the future - but not prepping your team of the new overtime rules is just malpractice and inexcusable. Overtime is a normal course of the game all coaches and players should be aware of is something especially no team in the Superbowl should overlook. Just egregious showing all around. Shanahan really needs to tread carefully this offseason and make sure he doesn't lose the locker room - these vets know how hard it is to get to that game and it's always their body on the line. If they see a coach that's just coaching for his pride and legacy, this may be another start to a mass exodus and dreary days for the Niners.
It's the players fault, they're professionals and just making excuses.
Are they babies or something?
Do they need to be told to look both ways before they cross the road, told to wipe their backside after taking a dump?
I hope not.
I agree 100% Seattle dodged a massive bullet by saying no thx to chip kelly he’s the def of a has been I’ll take grubb over him every time..
Its a matter of time before kyle gets one. Kyle is exactly what andy reid was prior to getting mahomes
I hope the 49ers lock Purdy in a long term contract. This will lead them to irrelevancy and an afterthought. I will bring the pen brock!
based takes, John. great job
People in Seattle definitely blamed bevell lol
Great take. I think alot of us just like the players are really still hurting. Everyone calls for kyles damn job every year and that is so annoying. One year well break through i know it. Big pictures is we gabe them more hell then the bills and ravens. Still came up short. Its hard to lose but man the chiefs are just great at the wrong time for us. If they werent here i feel like wed be the team going for a 3 peat.
If he can ever get back and score more points than the opposition, he should be in good shape
We don’t know DCs. So if we didn’t know Dan Quinn ran Atlanta, how the hell would we know Kyle even existed? Contradicting urself
A man that will not admit his mistakes and learn from them is a fool!
Well I'm glad someone out there does
I’m not.
It’s like listening to someone say the earth is flat. Painful on the ears and the brain.
I've said to many people the season started, they wouldn't win the big game, Kyle to stubborn to change his ways, and look what happened, they blame it on wills.
Steve Jones says the Super Bowl Champ will be shuffled between 4 or 5 QBs over the next decade (and Purdy is not in that group) though Burrow is 5 - 1 against Mahomes and Allen (one penalty away from 6 - 0) so stay tuned...
CMC lost the Super Bowl by setting the tone with a black cloud.
Thank you for still believing after such a tough loss. I still believe in Kyle.
I don’t think he’s gonna win the Super Bowl with the Niners when he’s going to get fired within the next couple days. Hopefully him and Steve Wilkes.
I don’t know what you are smoking. Everyone knows Kyle Shanahan is Marv Levy. 49ers are one loss away from being in the same discussion as Buffalo Bills. They are making 30 for 30 on this 49ers team. The title is “The best that never was”!😂