FIA's HUGE REVENGE on Red Bull after CHEATING SCANDAL Emerged!

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  • #f1news #redbull #maxverstappen
    The comparison of the Red Bull RB20 with last year's RB19 shows how this year's car has not been dominant, with the competitors reeling it in. And apparently this had something to do with an illegal part of the car that has been silently removed by the FIA. How? A regulation change in the middle of the season.

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  • @kennelson7591
    @kennelson7591 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Rb have been cheating for last 3 seasons should be disqualified

  • @brianmcallister114
    @brianmcallister114 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +114

    So what was the "huge revenge" that the FIA imposed on Red Bull? Or was that just bull shit you put in the caption to attract clicks?

    • @abruzzob
      @abruzzob 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      their car cannot beat any of the other top cars who have not had their hidden breaking advantage and so they will not win the championship this year ,that is pretty much a certainty and the other teams can start looking at other ways to go quicker knowing their car has been developed to its winning potential

    • @supermanblackedition
      @supermanblackedition 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      They literally changed the rules. That’s about all they can do

    • @markbenson7749
      @markbenson7749 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      9989c​@@abruzzob

    • @markbenson7749
      @markbenson7749 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

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    • @markbenson7749
      @markbenson7749 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@abruzzob😮😅, 9 44 d>k kindly ul

  • @eljaysonsamuel1
    @eljaysonsamuel1 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    And Yet They Thought Newey Was An Untouchable Genius… Not Knowing They Cheated 😹😹

    • @Lamster66
      @Lamster66 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Newey's job is to read the rule book every year and see where any exploitation of the rules can gain them an advantage. It's also why every other chief designer is employed at the other teams

  • @alecrl1
    @alecrl1 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Did Max’s teammates get this part or was it just for Max? It would explain Checo braking issues

  • @TheAngmarwitch
    @TheAngmarwitch 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +48

    How is it that whenever RB are found to be , shall we say, "non-compliant" they never get punished? 🤔🤔🤔

    • @chrissearle6176
      @chrissearle6176 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      Exactly the same reason ferrari get away with it.

    • @walterabraham5367
      @walterabraham5367 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      F1 wants to jump from Schumacher to Verstappen and forget about the black man who is the GOAT. That’s why they gave Max the championship that truly should’ve went to Hamilton.

    • @sammoore3687
      @sammoore3687 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Same reason ferrari and Mercedes and mclaren got away with it, because it wasn’t illegal it was a loophole. Which is what the sport is all about. Stop just hating on red bull twink

    • @crs19191919
      @crs19191919 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Same with Mercedes or any team that exploits a grey area.
      The sport is all about engineering in grey areas to gain advantages.
      I swear these drive to survive fans need to go back and look at the history of the sport.

    • @grigorisbagiaras8065
      @grigorisbagiaras8065 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It's not cheating when you are within the gray lines. They build the best car within these parameters, but that doesn't produce profit because they simply won right there. So FIA just changes the rules to make it more entertaining.. like always.

  • @grigorisbagiaras8065
    @grigorisbagiaras8065 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    People saying this is cheating are 100% illiterate. You get a project assigned that has rules and parameters. The smarter person in the room will dominate the project because he will think out of the box and will play around the gray areas.

  • @andyglastonbury6032
    @andyglastonbury6032 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

    I am still waiting for the FIA to fully explain Ferraris cheat mode in 2018, so I will not be holding my breath to get an official announcement on RBR. I will however hold an opinion that they used this in 2022, in 2033 and at the start of 2024 before getting caught and told to remove it mid season via a mid season TD, which are very rare.

    • @escos0410
      @escos0410 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Ferrari is the FIA that’s why.

    • @chrissearle6176
      @chrissearle6176 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      If explaining it will reveal teams confidential IP(intellectual property) they don't have to explain what's happened.
      With ferrari, you have to work it out but the rule changes & the additional fuel flow sensor they added.
      If you don't know what they were doing, the fuel flow sensor checks the flow rate every ½ second & ferrari using the gaps between the checks ½second checks to pump more fuel in.

    • @andyglastonbury6032
      @andyglastonbury6032 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@chrissearle6176 The don’t have to reveal IP, the FIA can simply state which regulations was deemed to have been broken and the corrective action taken. That’s all!

    • @brmh1667
      @brmh1667 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      There was a rumour the rules said, You can only take so and so power from the battery for so and so time per lap. Perhaps one company put two batteries in the car, both delivering so and so power for half the time per lap? As Hamilton said, "I waited for Ferrari's "trick" engine to kick in and watched him (Vettel) drive past". It was Spa one year.

  • @RickAnderson19
    @RickAnderson19 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +27

    Lewis accused them of cheating two years ago. He was right.
    That wording change to the rule is like writing the definition of the word asymmetric.
    I'm sure Red Bull had a dictionary when the inertial valve was developed.

    • @christokapp597
      @christokapp597 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      No bigger cheats than MB mate, get over yourself.

    • @RickAnderson19
      @RickAnderson19 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      @@christokapp597 Christina Horner, is that you? LOL.

    • @christokapp597
      @christokapp597 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Toto is married to who again, obviously no pillow talk going on there, just got lucky to have a part ready when rules were changed in Miami with the porpoising saga. I am no fan of Horny Horner but Adrian Newey knows how to design in the grey areas. That is not cheating that is genius.

    • @RickAnderson19
      @RickAnderson19 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@christokapp597 You state that as if cheating and genius are mutually exclusive. I can assure you that there is no such belief at this end of the conversation.

    • @brmh1667
      @brmh1667 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@christokapp597 Give an example, or stop trolling and get over yourself, Christina!

  • @royhowlett3076
    @royhowlett3076 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    The big question is how long has this cheating been going on. Has both RB cars fitted with this device. Has Verstappen won all his Championships using this cheat method. Surely all there points and money should be taken away and kicked out of racing.

    • @rosetzu_nagasawa
      @rosetzu_nagasawa 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ONLY a lawsuit will set this right.
      Max should be stripped of his F1 license and a LIFE TIME BAN.

    • @user-vq9jz9sc8t
      @user-vq9jz9sc8t 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Maybe they should take away all of Hamilton and Mercedes Championships for their cheating with their " Push/Pull Steering" and the FIA should have sanctioned F1 for allowing Mercedes this illegal feature for the rest of the year. Then made it illegal for the next year.

  • @karlosss1868
    @karlosss1868 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    One thing to explain why there is no penalty for this rule infringement is that the rules were ambiguous to start with. The FIA has ammended the rule and that's that. I do however believe there should be some questions regarding why the scrutineers had not found this device earlier.

    • @Kassiusday
      @Kassiusday 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Exactly not earlier because FIA was complacent with that cheat …. They were sponsor it somehow … white hope bringing money … in .. good for the overall business ….

  • @stevebarnes5243
    @stevebarnes5243 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    Very well said sir: " The secrecy when teams are found cheating then 0 transparency goes to show this is more entertainment that actual true competitiveness amongst contestants. This goes back decades and it isn’t new" It's not sport, it's MANIPULATED ENTERTAINMENT.

  • @locker60
    @locker60 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    They are long time cheats and it was obvious that they had something on the car no one else had, it just took too long for it to be known

    • @Kassiusday
      @Kassiusday 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      How do you explain their pace in straight line , although maybe it was not that quick !! . I want to understand how straight line pace is related to this brake asymmetry ….

    • @anthonyfleming2211
      @anthonyfleming2211 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Carry more speed into and through a corner 😂​@@Kassiusday

  • @briannicholson714
    @briannicholson714 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    Brakes on the axle not balanced all the time equals cheating. Simple and clever way to do it, but still against the rules.
    It does explain the dive bombing and lack of ability to turn in.
    Pure mechanical advantage. And cheating. Boooo!!!

    • @sammoore3687
      @sammoore3687 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Exploiting a grey area in the rules…. Not cheating, grow up or find a different sport. F1 might not be for u twink

  • @JaySamurai79
    @JaySamurai79 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +65

    Max's records dont mean 💩

    • @ALLFORONE963
      @ALLFORONE963 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Nice full of hate

    • @stevenmoran4060
      @stevenmoran4060 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Max would bear anyone in a Haas!

    • @9717cronaldo
      @9717cronaldo 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      CLASSIC DTS only watcher. If illegal why did FIA rule change mid season

    • @karlbenn4016
      @karlbenn4016 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      Max should be stripped of all championships

    • @ALLFORONE963
      @ALLFORONE963 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      @JaySamurai79 max lives rentfree somewhere near u

  • @arthurthorpe5445
    @arthurthorpe5445 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Transparency I don't think they can even spell it.

    • @Lamster66
      @Lamster66 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      *Transparency I don't think they can even spell it*
      Damn I'm really annoyed that you can! It's pi55ed on my fireworks :(

  • @EnemyDestroyerNumber1
    @EnemyDestroyerNumber1 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +50

    So youre saying that Red Bulls dominance is due to Cheating.

    • @dcrasta
      @dcrasta 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

      Yup

    • @mrb3483
      @mrb3483 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      What else, their records should be erased or given to the second place team, cheating and arrogance😎

    • @andyglastonbury6032
      @andyglastonbury6032 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      @@EnemyDestroyerNumber1 How else can a team win 21 out of 22 races in a season. How else can Perez actually win 4 races in 2022/23. 😂🤣

    • @kagisomoletsane5769
      @kagisomoletsane5769 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      What's FIA's resolution now that they cheated?

    • @roysoutdoorlife
      @roysoutdoorlife 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      ​@@kagisomoletsane5769 probably the same thing the FIA did when Red Bull got caught breaking the cost cap...

  • @bally1213
    @bally1213 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    Oh what a surprise 😳 They should loose all of 2022/ 2023 wins, and disqualified for a season, this season. 👊💥

    • @jayaline
      @jayaline 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Idiot

  • @markwemple1699
    @markwemple1699 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Redbull chests. They always do and have been since 2011. I guarantee they've been violating the cost cap since they asked for it. This is just the latest. The FIA usually turns a blind eye. External pressure must have overcome this internal bias towards RBR.

    • @sammoore3687
      @sammoore3687 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Nice spelling bozo

    • @brmh1667
      @brmh1667 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I think reducing crowd and viewing numbers, except in Holland , may have woken them up to the fact not the whole world wants to watch a tediously boring and predictable procession on a nice Sunday afternoon when they could all go out to the beach and have fun.
      But it did take a long time.

  • @mcmotors100
    @mcmotors100 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    How is what they did not ‘intentionally producing asymmetric braking’ which IS prohibited - illegal?

  • @garyjones626
    @garyjones626 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    The FIA should be completely transparent and tell all, they done the same with Ferrari when they had some illegal system fitted to their fuel system.RB should be penalised for cheating

  • @throwaway2910
    @throwaway2910 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +48

    STRIP THEIR POINTS. cheating team with a crashout driver

    • @fastone371
      @fastone371 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Perez is doing the best that he can, be kind.

  • @overlandi5056
    @overlandi5056 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    It seems to me that "if" RB were running such a system prior to it being "found" by the FIA technical analysis people who "may" have deemed it illegal then you must then look very closely at how the RB handles during breaking as a result. Point in question, when MV's RB braked effectively continuing in a straight line into the side of Hamilton. Now "if" RB had such a system in the past and MV was used to driving with it, then it would mean that MV had in the past been able to brake later than his competitors and turn into a corner at the same time whereas his competitors could not. So, MV in the incident with Hamilton was not able to turn to the right as he thought he could or was able to do in the past. Thus, he was the cause of the accident because he (MV) honestly thought in his mind, his car would allow him to brake in such a way as to out brake Hamilton and turn to the right at the same time. Equally, the team RB knows that in the incident with Hamilton, the cause was probably due to the fact that their "advantage tool" under braking had been removed.
    In any event, were RB "cheating"? Not if the "advantage tool" they had was not clarified under the rules. But, were they outside the spirit of the rule and in a grey area, probably so.... All teams in my view will explore grey areas and in so doing many developments will come along. But often the grey areas explored are to their sole advantages due to the pressure of sponsors demanding results.
    Many years ago, ABS was ruled by the FIA as something F1 cars could not utilize. That rule was emphatically clear. If a team such as RB therein designs something that "simulates" an ABS system, then would not such a system be a breach of the previous ruling or technical amendment and if so, then should it not be the case as in the Russel issue of him being underweight, his points and win was removed, then should the same not apply to RB or any other team if they are doing something that in contrary to the rules?

  • @eddiebirdie1545
    @eddiebirdie1545 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I'm done with F1, they who cheat most intelegently win. If they really want to be the pinical of motorsport let the teams build what they want and put that on the track and see if the opposition can catch up.

  • @ConvexRook
    @ConvexRook 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +23

    Imagine being a world champion just becuase of the car and not skill

    • @TatorTaco
      @TatorTaco 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Well if you're implying because a team develops a superior car within the regs and wins. We'll that would mean Shumacher, Senna, Prost, Lewis, Max, and Alonso were in that category too.

    • @easy_s3351
      @easy_s3351 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I didn't know Perez is a world champion

    • @garypope6382
      @garypope6382 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      we saw Hamilton's run.

    • @theone5902
      @theone5902 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Like Lewis?

    • @devilzuser0050
      @devilzuser0050 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Now where is that sentence: "ITS NOT THE CAR"? :D REALLY? ;)

  • @michaelmo4226
    @michaelmo4226 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +46

    So they cheated since 2019 wow what a professional sport

    • @tashakay1734
      @tashakay1734 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      found a loop hole nto cheated... same as mercwith DAS a few years ago and renault with a spring in the nose many years ago.

    • @analex4044
      @analex4044 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      this sport is all about performance, abusing the gray area, cheating. It's inevitable

    • @Joachim21100
      @Joachim21100 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@analex4044 Yes exactly, these are cheaters and man without honour in F1. Perfect for this soulless world.

    • @ku16610
      @ku16610 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@analex4044 No they cheated , really cut an dry in this case.

    • @notkurumi
      @notkurumi 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      glad you cant listen only around 2 mins into the video to have some brain they maybe "cheated" only this season

  • @LepKenetmiss
    @LepKenetmiss 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    this team can only win with cheat codes

  • @tennisplayerjoe
    @tennisplayerjoe 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    spanish speaking f1 news channels have been saying for a while and how this was ALWAYS dialed in and setup for max but never set up for checo and all of of sudden magically in fp3 and qualifying Checo's car wouldn't work....

  • @blugiant720
    @blugiant720 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Clear cheating that is not a gap in the regulation. That is an excuse in hopes of making RB’s cheating as though it was a misunderstanding to save the revocation of championships and points going back 5 years.

  • @kyiraanboyle-smart4039
    @kyiraanboyle-smart4039 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    So essentially its assisted trail braking. And who knows how long red bull have been running this system? I bet for both of Maxs championships that his had the illegal exploit. And then the fixing in 21. Someones paying the FIA a lot of money. Add it all together the last 4 year screams curruption and its not from the Stroll family surprisingly 😂😂

  • @MrRt027
    @MrRt027 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    I think you’re being naive. I would argue the information was clearly in the rules before the FIA amendment, that’s why the other teams saw no benefit going down the RB route.
    If it was such a grey area, ask yourself did RB seek clarification of the rule before development?

    • @brmh1667
      @brmh1667 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Do you know, I don't believe they did. I have no idea why. Hello sky, hello clouds!

    • @crs19191919
      @crs19191919 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Nobody seeks clarification of the rules.
      They are interpreted by each team as they wish.
      The entire sport and advantages are gained by interpreting the grey areas as well as possible.
      Is this your first year watching f1 or something?

    • @MrRt027
      @MrRt027 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@crs19191919 Beg to differ, Mercedes did with the DAS system because it was unconventional but still legal.

    • @crs19191919
      @crs19191919 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@MrRt027 the same with this it was legal until the directive clarified the grey area.

    • @crs19191919
      @crs19191919 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@MrRt027 Mercedes are so cosy with the FIA they could likely get a quite meeting to green light it before they officially ask for clarification.
      And they likely asked for clarification because that wasn't a grey area just unorthodox.
      And they haven't asked for clarification of there likely illegal front wing flexing while driving but not while being tested.

  • @Uranswer-yu5kp
    @Uranswer-yu5kp 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    F1 and the FÍA as entities are worthy of an American Academy Award. They act like they are providing a even field racing platform but they aren’t. The secrecy when teams are found cheating then 0 transparency goes to show this is more entertainment that actual true competitiveness amongst contestants. This goes back decades and it isn’t new.

  • @Its_the_sun
    @Its_the_sun 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Red Bull should have all the pointe gained in 2024 season taken away.

    • @devilzuser0050
      @devilzuser0050 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      -200 points and 100.000.000 $ penalty plus exclude from construcor's championship. + drivers cannot become world champion in the next 10 year. + verstappen can't change team in his life.

    • @brmh1667
      @brmh1667 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I believe they have actually been fortunate enough to gain some points legally this year for the first time in what looks like many years.

  • @howardwhite5131
    @howardwhite5131 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +23

    It would not surprise me if they were running something deep in the grey. But, every team tries to push the rules as far as they can until they get caught.

    • @sebulbathx
      @sebulbathx 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      Tbh I don't mind grey areas or loopholes. That is part of the fun and innovation, imo.

    • @tonyhaynes9080
      @tonyhaynes9080 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      But like Ferrari, Red Bull scream loudly when other teams bend the rules in a different way to them.

    • @Oscar-c8v
      @Oscar-c8v 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@tonyhaynes9080they all do it’s part of F1

    • @Talka5555
      @Talka5555 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@tonyhaynes9080if you want to win you gotta take out the competition

  • @abruzzob
    @abruzzob 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +39

    So many commentators need to eat their godlike adulation of this dishonest driver, he was never better than any other driver on the circuit ,he had a secret button to push whenever he chose to make sure he could corner that little bit faster under extreme pressure, his illegal machine gave him those extra tenths to humiliate the other competitors , even his team mate,

    • @radagastaddams3703
      @radagastaddams3703 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      doesn't have to be a button. a ball bearing inside a T-valve would move with the turns so it would be automatic. on the straights if the cars level it would brake with equal force but in a corner the little ball bearing moves under centrifugal force and passes different pressures to the rear brakes.

    • @chrissearle6176
      @chrissearle6176 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      It's automatic system & it was on both cars, hence why both cars have dropped of the pace since they were asked to remove it after Monaco.

    • @victory2115
      @victory2115 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Same as Benetton in 1994 , illegal software.

    • @sammoore3687
      @sammoore3687 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Why was he still winning in an inferior car after it was removed then twink😂😂😂

    • @crs19191919
      @crs19191919 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It was legal until they changed the fia added a clause this year.

  • @wibblywobbly99
    @wibblywobbly99 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    FIA will not punish Red Bull whilst Ben Sillyman is there.

  • @leebex100
    @leebex100 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Simple fact.
    Max has to live with the fact that there will now always be doubt over the validity of at least 2 of his world titles.

  • @harryheckels7232
    @harryheckels7232 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    We need to get our heads round one single fact , F1 is now a reality show , controlled by producers and editors: Any decisions we see are used to steer the “show “ in the direction they want , FIA/ money controls everything , Get used to it ,

    • @Lamster66
      @Lamster66 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Surely not "Hit him with the Chair!"

  • @jaggedbrain
    @jaggedbrain 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The main problem is regulations. Make f1 unlimited.

    • @devilzuser0050
      @devilzuser0050 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Main problem is partiality. FIA -> Red Bull.

  • @jumpnjack808
    @jumpnjack808 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    i will be nice to see RB not having anyone to blame...

  • @emmageman5418
    @emmageman5418 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    I KNEW THAT THEY WHERE ALWAYS CHEATING. HOW COULD MAX SOMETIMES WIN A RACE WITH A 15-20 SEC. LEAD

    • @TatorTaco
      @TatorTaco 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Better aero desing and a 15mph and up straightline advantage. Pretty simple.

    • @devilzuser0050
      @devilzuser0050 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@TatorTaco yeah and a little valve bethween the BBW.

    • @emmageman5418
      @emmageman5418 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @TatorTaco Of course, but with illegal parts build in to support all of that

    • @TatorTaco
      @TatorTaco 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@emmageman5418 if you have to change the regs, it isn't illegal.

    • @brmh1667
      @brmh1667 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@TatorTaco The regs haven't changed. That system has always been illegal. It is just spelt out now so that the cheating stops.

  • @user-yt7jb7kk1i
    @user-yt7jb7kk1i 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Braking controversy could be Mercedes "return to form" then we'll see a lot of back peddling 😂

  • @amc657
    @amc657 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +29

    Cheatbulls will remain cheaters

    • @liquid834
      @liquid834 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      It's funny really but it is always the cheaters themselves calling out everyone else for cheating, just got to see cheaters in gaming to know that.

    • @fastone371
      @fastone371 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @amc657 Triggered much?????🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @Pelc987
    @Pelc987 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    the second is champ at the end, max is a bum

  • @garyclarke1086
    @garyclarke1086 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    It's all red-bull shit, f1 has become a redbull air race, its a spectacle and really nothing more.

  • @M140i23
    @M140i23 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +26

    Surprise surprise, need to change their name to Rule Breakers Racing

  • @scal5134
    @scal5134 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The Man City of F1!

  • @ALLFORONE963
    @ALLFORONE963 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    So Are people accusing Adrian newey of cheating then .because u want to blame max but he drives the car . So if anyone is to blame then why no hate towards Adrian newey but hate towards max u people make no sense

  • @Juan-sr7rf
    @Juan-sr7rf 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Maybe it could be fixed by implementing a relationship with the differential and some ABS, giving as a result diff brake presets, and maybe combining this with some aero part either at the front or the back, making the car slip depending on the diff brake presets.

  • @hughjohnson2674
    @hughjohnson2674 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Cheating or stretching the rules!…..Never, it’s F1 for Gods sake.

  • @bisaiah9797
    @bisaiah9797 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Well get ready to see more melt down from Mad Max.

  • @alleynecd
    @alleynecd 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    -4 times champion 😤🤦🏽‍♂️

  • @Snakkers
    @Snakkers 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Normal. They find something and than the change te rules. Thats how f1 works.

  • @liquid834
    @liquid834 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    The FIA is a disgrace over the last years, since they fixed a championship at Abu dhabi to prevent lewis winning, they broke many of their own rules to do so, and asking Red Bull for their opinion on the mattrer at the time was hilarious and saddening to see. All teams that are discovered cheating should be publically shamed and all the other teams should be told. They silently did it with Red Bull now and Ferrari a few seasons ago. They are more concerned with negative associations and happenings costing them money, pure and simple. What a joke.
    Been an F1 fan all my life and have not watched a GP since they screwed Lewis at Abu Dhabi. The whole F1 circus with them and Liberty Media is about fabricating a show to maximise money earning potential, fairness does not even enter the equation anymore. Pathetic.
    The funniest thing though, is the amount that Red Bull accuse other teams of cheating and constantly complaining when they are not winning, and here they are, cheating themselves. Christian Horner, you are a snake sir, nothing more.

    • @TatorTaco
      @TatorTaco 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You do understand the only team found to have violated the ACTUAL brake regs was Mclaren.

    • @alexandershaw2378
      @alexandershaw2378 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      *_"Evil thinks as evil does..."_*

    • @liquid834
      @liquid834 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@TatorTaco And yet Mclaren have not dropped off performance wise like Red Bull have, and before you state the other teams have all improved that's all, remember, no F1 team can improve that much mid season with any upgrades, if a team can get a tenth a lap with an upgrade they are throwing a party lol.
      I appreciate there is no public information regarding Red Bull but something clearly has affected the performance of their cars.
      It will never be public either because Max Verstappen/Red Bull are hyped for financial benefit by the organisation itself

    • @sammoore3687
      @sammoore3687 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Remember when they fixed the crashgate scandal as well which made scamilton the champion. Yh I remember that too…

    • @alexandershaw2378
      @alexandershaw2378 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@sammoore3687 lol
      You are sadly misinformed and on a smear campaign diminish the achievement on another driver a bit more deserving than the allegedly cheating RBR and Max Verstappen combination of the championship that was stolen/gifted to respectively.
      The thing is the truth always hurts those who refuse to accept and acknowledge it.

  • @sayharris1361
    @sayharris1361 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It just goes to show you that Max is not as dominant of a driver as everyone claims. Especially when red bowl gets caught cheating on a regular basis. Funny how that works. No financial penalty for cheating.

  • @vincefearon6069
    @vincefearon6069 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Why is this a Huge Revenge for the FIA. It's a Huge Loop Hole for Red Bull, the FIA has admitted to all the Racing Team that Red Bull had a Braking System that was illegal and probably used in last years car. So all the points that Red Bull have accumulated this year should be removed and given to the Teams that was driving a Legal FIA spec Racing car. I feel so sorry for Teams that are struggling who could benefit the points RedBull have unlawfully accumulated. I can now understand why Max Verstappen had more control and speed advantage than is team mate Sergio Perez, same car but different Braking System which made Max Verstappen looks like a Great Racing driver. 😂😂😂 FIA your a Big Joke to the Racing Industry and Red Bull you're a Fraud and a CHEAT. Change Your Name to Bull 💩

  • @Kurama1907
    @Kurama1907 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +76

    Red Bull should be taken away all points and champions ship

    • @Murseman2727
      @Murseman2727 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      Agreed

    • @sparky240fps7
      @sparky240fps7 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      LMAO

    • @Paul-pj5qu
      @Paul-pj5qu 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      If it was already illegal, why did they have to make a mid-season regulation change? What it sounds like is they found a way that the rules didn't make illegal to make their car perform better. The FIA then decided The intent of our rules was that we didn't want this so now we'll actually implement a regulation that stops it.

    • @Miraglia33
      @Miraglia33 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      Remember mercedes had the DAS system ? They could use it allll season and then it got banned. Now thats false play from fia.

    • @OlafvanEss
      @OlafvanEss 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      so would Ferrari and Mercedes when they bend the rules to the best of their ability to gain an advantage.

  • @alanhall1219
    @alanhall1219 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Yes, their interpretation is often pushed to it’s limits, usually they recover lost ground with fully egalitarian updates but it seems this time they are struggling

  • @KSadikoglu
    @KSadikoglu 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I thought they made this rule because of McLaren’s holes in the break system they did not cover up.

  • @jackplane7408
    @jackplane7408 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Horner is a hollow winner that makes red bull cheats and they should be stripped off championships when using that system.

  • @user-ew9or6kw8e
    @user-ew9or6kw8e 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I KNEW IT~~ We Are, In FACT, in the Age of TRUTH... (Religious Fanatics have NO Clue...)

  • @fraserlynn9488
    @fraserlynn9488 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    This has always been all the teams objectives, understand the words and then how to push the boundaries and re-interpret with a solution that gives advantage. The question is, did the FIA know if any team operated an inertia valve system like this? If not I would say anyone using these inertia valves in the braking system to achieve asymmetric braking were cheating.

    • @andyglastonbury6032
      @andyglastonbury6032 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@fraserlynn9488 A better question is whether RBR got permission to use this technology in their cars. If the answer is yes, then fair enough. If the answer is no, then they cheated. Simples.

  • @rabmoody
    @rabmoody 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I watched the Hungarian GP and it's the first I've watched in years. Firstly it was completely boring beyond belief. Secondly it's rigged and that'sbecauseof team orders. Imagine having $10k on Norris to win which he was doing with ease only to to come second to Piastri because Norris was told to let him pass! You can dress it any way you want but the best driver didn't win and that's shite. You can keep your F1 id rather watch moto GP anytime.

    • @axnax1
      @axnax1 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I agree with you there. I found it laughable that Norris was 'accidentally' given the better strategy and because of that he had to let the other guy win ??? McLaren made themselves, and F1, look stupid.

  • @jimbalsbaugh7365
    @jimbalsbaugh7365 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    This is where the FIA and F1 are wrong. This is exactly why we raced, to find innovative solutions to problems. Then, trickle down the tech to street cars. The tech to make a car more stable through a turn improves the racing and makes the cars in the real world safer.
    The last thing F1 needs is to turn into Indy car or NASCAR.

    • @devilzuser0050
      @devilzuser0050 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      yeah, let them have a device that is generally against the rules is a great idea for making monkeys to be multiple champions. Great for Patrick's from Spongebob who doesn't even know his own name to be very happy.

    • @jimbalsbaugh7365
      @jimbalsbaugh7365 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@devilzuser0050 they changed the rule to make it illegal. No cheating.

  • @theqslearningmethod
    @theqslearningmethod 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If Red Bull Racing has anything like the attitude of Red Bull Aviation then this is no surprise. They appear to have no regard to legality, ethics or safety. No surprise there then!

  • @christopherbland5774
    @christopherbland5774 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Is it fitted to Perez's car as well or just Max's big Fine coming up

    • @brmh1667
      @brmh1667 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      life times supply of Red Bull is the usual cost.

  • @Mirwanist
    @Mirwanist 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Finding a loophole in the rules doesn't count as cheating lol the hate redbull gets is unreal😂 people asking for points deduction should grow up.

    • @alexandershaw2378
      @alexandershaw2378 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Yeah just like how people loved to hate on Mercedes and felt justified.
      Now RBR fans with their "whataboutism" is tiring.
      Not so enjoyable when the shoe is on the other foot huh 😏

    • @devilzuser0050
      @devilzuser0050 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@alexandershaw2378 yesss!!!

  • @ayushsarkar3526
    @ayushsarkar3526 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    And 7 Constructor Championship with Mercs was all fair and square WOW

    • @alexandershaw2378
      @alexandershaw2378 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yes, it was. Do your research *before* you start globbing pop.
      Innovation is *not* _"cheating."_
      Cheating is interpreting the rules, knowing its implications yet doing completely opposite to gain an advantage.
      Mercedes always aaked FIA for permission to implement an innovation and when scrutinized by them, thet were giving the greenlight.
      Only lobbying mainly from RB threatening to leave the sport if Mercedes was not slowed down got the FIA to amend its rules or outlaw a particular innovation.
      Do. Your. Research.

    • @devilzuser0050
      @devilzuser0050 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Awaken Red Bull Verstappen fanboy realizes his favourit maybe not as good as he believed. Welcome to the real world! 👏👏👏

    • @sammoore3687
      @sammoore3687 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@alexandershaw2378exactly, and this was innovation as it wasn’t against the rules. If it was against it, they wouldn’t have needed to change it bozo

    • @brmh1667
      @brmh1667 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Not only that but throughout those seasons both team drivers had the same equipment. Now do you see? Many have been deeply suspicious of Verstappen's sudden "massive overload of talent" and didn't believe it was the real. They are now proven right and it seems decent drivers have wasted years of their lives fighting an unfair gain for one.

    • @user-yt7jb7kk1i
      @user-yt7jb7kk1i 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Only Ham fans because he passed his best before date mid season 2021😂😂

  • @markbailey3508
    @markbailey3508 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    A bit like the fourth pedal in the McLaren 30 years ago

  • @simonmiller5118
    @simonmiller5118 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Inertial valve gives you wings.

  • @knowledgerules2813
    @knowledgerules2813 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    So let’s vote to call a brilliantly developed thing illegal half way the season.
    And then let’s boast about the incredible progress we have made as other teams.

  • @reganfrancke743
    @reganfrancke743 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Being new to sport, this is a disgrace to a sport code. Everyone know how Mafia operate and everything points to the same way a mafia operate. Money talks💸

  • @RogueCylon
    @RogueCylon 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Clear violation and there should be a season ban or major points adjustment.

  • @howarddavies136
    @howarddavies136 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Im well impressed tbh. Such a simple yet effective device that could have been used any time in the history of F1.

  • @Shels_pwnz
    @Shels_pwnz 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I am not saying that this is true but I always felt that RB was doing “something” there are signs that show that something untruthful is going on. The major one being the the teams response to all of the greatness they have accomplished the past few years does not seem genuine. Nobody is acting like how real Champions would act, especially after all the losing they had done. When other teams win they are elated, The Mercs, Mclearn, Ferraris’s are all very prideful of thier victories. Max on the other hand is just like “meh” another day another race. I know this has nothing to do with it but it’s just my observation. Also all the sudden Checo can’t even finish a race and Max is just slow when one lil part of the car is broke, but Ham can win a race on three wheels?

  • @vresi
    @vresi 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Just to make this clear; this is _NOT_ a rule 'change', it's a clarification of what the rule is meant to say. The FIA can actually not make changes to the technical regulations mid season, unless for safety reasons. This is why for instance Mercedes' DAS was allowed the 2020 season out despite the FIA desperately not wanting it in Formula 1, so they had to wait until the season was over to ban it.

  • @user-tx7ki7jo4x
    @user-tx7ki7jo4x 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Red Bull have been cheating for years, Ferrari was the same years ago but the FIA sided with them, yes cheating has been going on for years we all know that but they got penalties now a days it’s every team except Red Bull they get away with it. The FIA are to blame

  • @ashan2272
    @ashan2272 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    So Max is not as great as they say he is, it was the car…

  • @robertbarta4912
    @robertbarta4912 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The previous regulation read "Any system or mechanism that can systematically or intentionally produce asymmetric braking torques on a given axis is prohibited."
    Not sure why they had to add this to it unless someone was claiming they didn't know what asymmetric braking on a given axis means. "The braking system must be designed so that, within each braking circuit, the forces applied to the brake pads are of the same magnitude and act as opposite pairs on a specific brake disc.

    • @JohnH-pf1oh
      @JohnH-pf1oh 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      They must have a channel for making clarifications on rules before embedding them in cars, they are being cheeky if they blame it on the word "asymmetric".

    • @brmh1667
      @brmh1667 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Ignorance of the law is no excuse, if they don't know what it means, feeble excuse, what is the level of education there, then it is their duty to find out. You cannot claim you don't know what a 30MPH sign means when you are done for speeding.

  • @joelpierce3940
    @joelpierce3940 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You don’t change the rules in the middle of the game!

  • @nwmartinzz
    @nwmartinzz 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Ok, now the BIG question, is this so call valve is fitted on Sergio Perez car…????????

  • @user-bb8yc9bs8r
    @user-bb8yc9bs8r 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This sistem was introduced and used by Mclaren long ago...so maybe other use it too...without that somebody look at Mercedes dominance over the year...which suddenly disappear...

  • @pauls5745
    @pauls5745 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    But none of the major F1 channels covered the story? Is there a story at all or is this fabricated?

  • @chrissearle6176
    @chrissearle6176 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    For them that are only just hearing about this, they were asked to remove it after Monaco. & for them that dont understand what it is, its an automatic break bias system that does the same job as Mclaren old 3rd pedal.
    Im sure its a complete coincidence that its removal & Max's inability to turn corners happened at the same time.
    At least they weren't caught testing a mule car with 2024 tech on it.......... oh yeah, they were & new rules came out for that too.
    Its like my old mate Schumacher used to say, "if at 1st you dont succeed, cheat, cheat cheat, keep cheating & cheat again untill you're quietly told to stop doing it"

  • @patrickjean-philippe7679
    @patrickjean-philippe7679 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It’s possible they cheated for many years…

  • @bustaknutt7729
    @bustaknutt7729 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Newey... probably the reason he wanted out of red bull all of a sudden. Hand in the cookie jar?

  • @DavidBirkett9
    @DavidBirkett9 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Where is the "REGULATION CHANGE???" "Where is the G A P" HOW does the additional "Clarification" add or clarify anything, that was not already stated in that particular regulation.???

    • @andyglastonbury6032
      @andyglastonbury6032 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@DavidBirkett9 It’s a change in the regulations, which is why it’s a technical directive. And the reason for this was that the FIA believed that team(s) were either unsure of the regs (but hadn’t bothered to get clarification) or had chosen to ignore the regulations. Much like the revised load tests on rear wings were introduced because teams clearly didn’t understand the regulation that aero parts must not flex under load.

    • @DavidBirkett9
      @DavidBirkett9 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@andyglastonbury6032 But it's NOT a Change in the Regulations...
      It's a 'Restating' of the 'Obvious' to excuse and obfuscate an obvious breaking of that Clear Regulation that may have been flouted since 2022...

    • @andyglastonbury6032
      @andyglastonbury6032 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@DavidBirkett9 You make a fair point. It’s a further clarification to the rules to make them even more unambiguous. However to someone with a bit of engineering knowledge you can see that the original para 11.1.2 is pretty clear, in that brake force has to be applied equally to each side. The amendment just makes it super clear.

    • @DavidBirkett9
      @DavidBirkett9 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      'ANY' other team shamelessly feigning ignorance understood by 'ALL' would be ashamed at being caught collecting another "Human Error",with record wins of previous seasons, along with hurriedly f1-media exalted, newly crowned F1 GOAT Drivers champion.
      No repercussions for brazen Crashstappen recklessness, budget Cap breaking and illegal system openly endorsed like a 2,000 pound targeted precision Dumb Bomb with an "OOPS' preferable to the obvious alternative...

  • @peterwilliams3252
    @peterwilliams3252 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Any fool can win if you cheat,you do not need to be a brilliant driver if your car can corner twice has fast as your opponents,go around a corner faster you come out faster the other drivers have got to catch up,no brainier.

  • @billyweb8846
    @billyweb8846 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I would suggest F1 fans read articles on serious F1 sites like The Race as opposed to cras yt sites like this one.

  • @andydawson-sb1kb
    @andydawson-sb1kb 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Like teams in the past db should be fined and points docked

  • @smasherlol351
    @smasherlol351 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Lando winning everything after this....

  • @michaelgibson4705
    @michaelgibson4705 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It’s not cheating if you don’t get caught 😂

    • @devilzuser0050
      @devilzuser0050 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Troll fans liked this.

  • @jonconnor9601
    @jonconnor9601 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    😂 Max is gonna end up like lance Armstrong in a few years , maybe this is the reason Andrian is out of there he knows what's coming ,
    Wow that team has always been dodgy

  • @And-War
    @And-War 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    so RED bulls other race wins and championchips should be stripped

  • @oceanbreeze852
    @oceanbreeze852 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is y all f1 teams cheatins because the fia charge them for cheating

  • @alanlucas501
    @alanlucas501 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I concur.

  • @dominicgibson9529
    @dominicgibson9529 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Red Bull cheated! Say it isn’t so😖 Should have all points accrued, and any titles won as a result terminated!

  • @robinmossing3789
    @robinmossing3789 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    No cheating happened. It was allowed by the rules. The gap given in the old rules has been filled and since then Red Bull changed the car. So if the car applied to the rules and came trough the inspections its a legal car. Dont act emotional with words like Cheaters, read, listen and respond rational

    • @devilzuser0050
      @devilzuser0050 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Don't make me laugh sad fanboy.

  • @alkisfragoulidis7441
    @alkisfragoulidis7441 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Take the championships back

  • @alvori1
    @alvori1 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Make a video of McLaren brake system

  • @ehensley
    @ehensley 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    And yet Merc was able to run an illegal system DAS and the FIA blocked other F1 teams from implementing and processed to give Merc 1 season to win both drivers and team champ, saying that hey just stop using it next year. Gee just file that under give Lewis the win and keep the english fans happy

    • @jaynejones6630
      @jaynejones6630 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Sorry for you, being a Lewis hater. In fact the DAS system Was legal and the FIA ruled it so,,, Redbullsh*t complained to get it banned, because they couldn't get it to work

    • @alexandershaw2378
      @alexandershaw2378 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Do you blatant haters even do your research *before* commenting and cementing what everyone already knows about y'all? That you are a parrot regurgitating your biased baseless conjecture regardless of verified evidence to the contrare?
      Hate never wins.