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Hi Leo, unfortunately the cost of assembling a set of these first six "Caesars" in such a superb quality has now rocketed beyond our middle-class pockets! And of course we still have to see Otho and Vitellius... the Flavians are more afffordable, but Vespasian and Titus are still quite expensive in high grade.
I had to sell my Otho denarius as I couldn’t complete the set of the year of 4 emperors with my budget, and just Otho and Vespasian was not bringing me joy, I bought an owl instead and what a joy it is to handle.
@@Numischannel Yes I bought an example that a couple years ago only top notch collectors could afford, the 2018 hoard blessed us budget collectors, but people who took owls as an investments just need to wait 5 years or so for the market to digest the hoard because if there is a coin that has the demand in the thousands its the owl.
@@siisjwj7647 I bought my 5th century owl tetra when I was a kid nearly 30 years ago in a CNG auction, it came from the Jay Dawley collection. It has a couple of minor test-marks but an amazing cabinet toning, wonderful style and strike and I kind of love that coin for obvious reasons (it was my first classical Greek tetra).
@@Numischannel How much did the bidding go for back then? Early 2000s market I remember was HOT, I only collected US coins back then and I remember seeing owls for 2000 dollars.
Thumb's up for another superb offering. You really flesh out the context and background of these coins and the emperors they depict. Such videos could easily be used to enhance an otherwise dull college-level History course. I look forward to Part 2.
Always love the videos. I’m working through the 12 Caesar’s after completing the 5 Good Emperors. I can’t go all silver because Claudius and Caligula are so expensive. I think an As is acceptable there. Your Claudius and Caligula were very nice to see up close.
I just started my collection of 12. Started with Caligula. Figured I would get the most painful one done first. Its an As but cost more in bronze than pretty much any other emperor in silver. There goes my coin budget for a few months.
I actually just picked up a major upgrade for my Caesar not too long ago at NYINC. A bit off center, but all of the details are there. Nice portrait, high grade. I’d call it a VF. It’s exactly the coin I went there for. Now to find a Claudius and a Caligula in the same sort of condition.
@@ClassicalNumismatics The reason I had my solidi graded by NGC was to get them authenticated as there are sadly many fakes floating around. That's even more so for Julius Caesar, Augustus, Nero, Caligula, Claudius denarii - all very popular with counterfeiters.
I have 3/6, not bad. I'm leaving JC to last, I'm not incredibly interested in him. Tiberius is the trickier one for me. A nice Caligula as is somewhat attainable, but Tiberius are overpriced tribute pennies or mediocre bronzes.
Is it possible to collect the 12 on a budget? Would love to see a video on a budget collection of the 12... I'm realizing I can collect these OR buy a house, but probably not both 😅
Thats precisely what Ive done, for a Claudius Ive gone with an Alexandria Tetradrachm. The only one from the 12 Caesars Im missing is Caligula, and that will be a tough one.
Indeed. Claudius' denarii were victims of their own success and quality under an economic principle called _Gresham's Law._ Of course, it works both ways for us contemporary collectors. I believe that one reason we have so many lovely Gordian III silver double-denarii from the mid 3rd Century was that they were specifically hoarded as repositories of intrinsic value in the face of even far lesser and much debased coins of his successors. Every time they dig a new house foundation or lay a sewer line they seem to unearth another hoard. That makes Gordian's issues among the most affordable for collectors like me who don't have such deep pockets, but enjoy having at least _some_ Roman silver.
Vídeo bastante interessante. Dificilmente acho as vezes algumas moedas da dinastia Julio-Claudiana. E por falar nisso, você acha justo, por exemplo um fólis por o preço de 9-15 euros, num estado considerável, tipo nem muito bom nem muito ruim?
Este é mais o menos o preço de um fólis em estado “Fine”, acho que é um preço adequado. Eu teria cuidado com preço de entrega se o vendedor for fora da America Do Sul pois postagem de correios para la geralmente é longa e cara.
@@siisjwj7647 o fólis está até um estado considerável, o estado não é perfeito, mas não está tão ruim, é bom e dá pra ver legendas a mint mark, etc. o vendedor tem bom feedback, no caso ele é da austria, (no ebay).
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When your heart says "12 caesars" but your wallet responds "5 good emperors"
100% 😂
Hilarious. Exactly my MO. Lol
My wallet responds constantinian Dynasty
Thank you for sharing your scholarship. Anytime someone is willing to educated others should be appreciated.
Thank you for the kind words, Im very happy to help spread the hobby of collecting ancient coins and the overall knowledge of ancient numismatics :)
Hi Leo, unfortunately the cost of assembling a set of these first six "Caesars" in such a superb quality has now rocketed beyond our middle-class pockets! And of course we still have to see Otho and Vitellius... the Flavians are more afffordable, but Vespasian and Titus are still quite expensive in high grade.
I had to sell my Otho denarius as I couldn’t complete the set of the year of 4 emperors with my budget, and just Otho and Vespasian was not bringing me joy, I bought an owl instead and what a joy it is to handle.
@@siisjwj7647 It's a great time for owls, there's a huge hoard in the market and many nice affordable coins
@@Numischannel Yes I bought an example that a couple years ago only top notch collectors could afford, the 2018 hoard blessed us budget collectors, but people who took owls as an investments just need to wait 5 years or so for the market to digest the hoard because if there is a coin that has the demand in the thousands its the owl.
@@siisjwj7647 I bought my 5th century owl tetra when I was a kid nearly 30 years ago in a CNG auction, it came from the Jay Dawley collection. It has a couple of minor test-marks but an amazing cabinet toning, wonderful style and strike and I kind of love that coin for obvious reasons (it was my first classical Greek tetra).
@@Numischannel How much did the bidding go for back then? Early 2000s market I remember was HOT, I only collected US coins back then and I remember seeing owls for 2000 dollars.
Thumb's up for another superb offering. You really flesh out the context and background of these coins and the emperors they depict. Such videos could easily be used to enhance an otherwise dull college-level History course. I look forward to Part 2.
Always love the videos. I’m working through the 12 Caesar’s after completing the 5 Good Emperors. I can’t go all silver because Claudius and Caligula are so expensive. I think an As is acceptable there. Your Claudius and Caligula were very nice to see up close.
I just started my collection of 12. Started with Caligula. Figured I would get the most painful one done first. Its an As but cost more in bronze than pretty much any other emperor in silver. There goes my coin budget for a few months.
moment to appreciate the cool thumbnail.
Lots of effort, love and care put into it, glad you liked it!
@@ClassicalNumismatics Yeah he is correct, your thumbnails always look very nice and professional
3:30 British coin collectors analysing Charles III coins.
that Augustus denarius is really great
Glad you liked it! Its a reasonably common piece, and very visually appealing.
I actually just picked up a major upgrade for my Caesar not too long ago at NYINC. A bit off center, but all of the details are there. Nice portrait, high grade. I’d call it a VF. It’s exactly the coin I went there for. Now to find a Claudius and a Caligula in the same sort of condition.
Thanks again Leo , excellent video 👍😀
Thank you for a well informed video, as usual!
Another great video
Thanks Randy! Part 2 is coming soon
I don't have coins from Galba, Otho, Vitelius and Titus but I have of the rest. I think the most beautiful of them is the denarius of Augustus
Augustus does indeed have spectacular coins, Ive even made an episode entirely dedicated to him
An outstanding presentation and episode. Fabulous ancient coins. I'd personally have them graded and slabbed to retain their character.
I am strongly AGAINST slabbing any ancient coin :)
@@ClassicalNumismatics The reason I had my solidi graded by NGC was to get them authenticated as there are sadly many fakes floating around. That's even more so for Julius Caesar, Augustus, Nero, Caligula, Claudius denarii - all very popular with counterfeiters.
Sadly NGC doesnt guarantee authenticity, people need to stop considering NGC a panacea, in fact, I have seen more than once fakes slabbed by them.
I mainly collect greek coins however I need to get my hands in the Julio Claudians
If you are ok with provincial coins, it isnt thaaat hard.
@@ClassicalNumismatics Yes and as Im more used to Greek coins your videos truly help!
Is it true that Tiberius Co-ruled with his father in AD 13, and his face was minted on opposite side of Augustus' face in that year's coin?
I have 3/6, not bad. I'm leaving JC to last, I'm not incredibly interested in him. Tiberius is the trickier one for me. A nice Caligula as is somewhat attainable, but Tiberius are overpriced tribute pennies or mediocre bronzes.
Caligula liked to do some trolling. Nero was just misunderstood.
Caligula did indeed do some KEKing
What’s the approximate cost to build a collection of denarii of the 12 Caesar’s?
Thousands of dollar/pounds/euros, I’m saving money on my 12 Caesars set by allowing for bronze and provincial pieces alongside silver.
Thankyou.
Is it possible to collect the 12 on a budget? Would love to see a video on a budget collection of the 12... I'm realizing I can collect these OR buy a house, but probably not both 😅
I'd love to see the house you could buy ha ha. You can assemble these 12 in a mix of silver and bronze for under $2k easy.
Only one I’m missing on this list is Julius Caesar
Edit: Btw I meant on this list of six
He was the first one in this movie...
I hate how a Claudius denarius is more expensive than a Julius Caesar, Ill have to settle for provincial
Thats precisely what Ive done, for a Claudius Ive gone with an Alexandria Tetradrachm.
The only one from the 12 Caesars Im missing is Caligula, and that will be a tough one.
@@ClassicalNumismatics Yes I guess I will be satisfied with a good provincial bilion tetradrachm, their edges look so rustic, which I love.
Indeed. Claudius' denarii were victims of their own success and quality under an economic principle called _Gresham's Law._ Of course, it works both ways for us contemporary collectors. I believe that one reason we have so many lovely Gordian III silver double-denarii from the mid 3rd Century was that they were specifically hoarded as repositories of intrinsic value in the face of even far lesser and much debased coins of his successors. Every time they dig a new house foundation or lay a sewer line they seem to unearth another hoard. That makes Gordian's issues among the most affordable for collectors like me who don't have such deep pockets, but enjoy having at least _some_ Roman silver.
I have 8 of the 12.
Great job! Which ones do you still have to get?
@@ClassicalNumismatics Julius Caesar, Galba, Otho & Vitellius.
I’m jealous 😂
👍👏
Vídeo bastante interessante. Dificilmente acho as vezes algumas moedas da dinastia Julio-Claudiana. E por falar nisso, você acha justo, por exemplo um fólis por o preço de 9-15 euros, num estado considerável, tipo nem muito bom nem muito ruim?
Depends on what type of follis
Este é mais o menos o preço de um fólis em estado “Fine”, acho que é um preço adequado. Eu teria cuidado com preço de entrega se o vendedor for fora da America Do Sul pois postagem de correios para la geralmente é longa e cara.
@@siisjwj7647 o fólis está até um estado considerável, o estado não é perfeito, mas não está tão ruim, é bom e dá pra ver legendas a mint mark, etc. o vendedor tem bom feedback, no caso ele é da austria, (no ebay).
👍👍👍👍👍💪
First conment
This is too much, my head is spinning.