One of my big problems working with deity is that I chronically overthink. I question everything I do -- am I doing enough? am I doing it often enough? is what I'm doing good enough? am *I* good enough? Worthiness is a struggle for me. Because Loki came to me, not the other way round, I often have this nagging voice in my head asking why *me* out of all the people he could have chosen. It's not quite as bad as it was at first. There was a point not too far into things where he made me start over, and it was months before I could come back to him, but I was obviously more ready the second time. I just can't ever shake the feeling of fumbling through the dark. He even told me recently through a tarot reading that I'd be a lot happier if I quit trying to be overly intellectual about working with him, but right now that feels practically impossible.
'He even told me recently through a tarot reading that I'd be a lot happier if I quit trying to be overly intellectual about working with him, but right now that feels practically impossible.' Loki is a long way from perfect, so why would he expect those who work with him to be?
Baby step by baby step mate, you need to explore yourself and figure out WHY you find yourself unworthy of a god that came to YOU? Why do you feel so in the dark, do some shadow work ♡ ask for Loki to help you with this if you please, but let me tell you noa, just so you know, you're are fucking incredible, you literally are the universe (if you believe in the universe) you are incredible, beautiful, and so incredibly worthy ♡♡♡ know this now ♡♡♡
Very helpful video, especially as someone recovering from an Abrahamic faith. It makes me think about how if we are bodies in need of physical parents, why would it be so different for our spirits? It makes sense that our spirits would crave suitable 'parental' or 'mentor' figures, too. There should be no shame in that. ❤
I can relate to that jealousy. I'm agnostic and desperately wish I could clutch to something beyond me. Something Divine. I think sometimes I'm scared to open up. Like I'll be shook, but not in a positive way.
I’m a Christian and honestly I feel not jealousy but sort of like ‘wow that would be a cool experience’ when I hear about others having these encounters with famous deities. But because of my faith I don’t think I will ever have that experience on this side of eternity. That and the fact that I don’t entirely trust the process. Would I be getting myself into something that is not easily reversed? Would that deity or another pursue me at some point? What is my end of the bargain exactly? Like the deities themselves, I believe there is a lot that is unseen, unknown, or otherwise hidden, the very meaning of the occult.
I've recently discovered your channel and have been devouring it like hot cakes, I saved so many of your videos to my Watch Later folder that I eventually stopped because I realized I'm just going to have to watch every single one. I appreciate you sharing all your knowledge so much!
at 19:24 or bit earlier so interesting. IN this life I am African-American, visually and last ancestors. But I just made a video on working with ancestors that was hard for me: as my take is a bit different and your comments (excellent re: appropriation,) sparked me to write. While knowing that awareness of cultural appr. is vital esp. for those from communities that have historically done this, at the same time I have like a meta view. I'm studying shamanism, which ok I may tangent so- I won't. There are still very active lineages of AFrican spirituality where ancestor worship is extant. But as a Western woman of Af-american descent it's interesting that referring to shamanism because in fact my direct lineage is destroyed. Ok. So I think and have seen that the ancestry each of us may identify with now- is such a thin veneer! For ex. any "mixed race" individual depending who they marry will produce a child that literally may not look like grandparent who may be from a different ethinic group. In a Sham. Journey, an Irish ancestor of mine showed up! On the side of my very black dad! My teacher laughed as I told her my journey-- and only then revealed that her guides said to her of me "tell (my name) not to be surprised if she ends up in Europe!" Turns out Kelly-Ann, that many black females in the US because of rape and I'm sure some consensual relationships too- have on their father's side much more European ancestry. I did not know this at the time. So to wrap up. In terms of shamanism- that same teacher- shared of a young well to do male whose ancestor that appeared to him and guides him is in fact an African tribal male that was a ancient ancestor. How can one hold this truth within the context of cultural appropriation? I'd love comments here and feedback on this point. Now is this slightly off deity...I'm thinking I mixed this but say working with an Indian deity...turns out again in the Caribbean many East Indians from a specific region (who were Goddess worshipers) were indentured and brought to the West Indies, where they intermixed with enslaved Africans. I found this out recently as I've always been draw to Indian cultural in a very deep way- but my family history does not mention South East Asian. Yet this research showed me that someone who is African-heritage from the Carribean in fact may have East Indian direct lineage to an Indian Goddess! So its a very deep and rich topic.
Thank you for chiming in on this subject. Right away I am going to disclose that Mother Mary came to me in a big way. You were also apart of this transformation. I was very mentally ill and my brain wanted me to die. I had placed here on my alter and I prayed to her and put me life in her hands. I am still writing this so me prayers were answered. But when I found the miraculous metal is when things got really crazy. I felt her in my body like beams of light coming out of my head, hands and feet. She was there without a doubt. I went to a catholic church yesterday and now have a bottle of holy water and she was everywhere. I feel incredibly blessed and also a bit like a copy cat. But it happened and she is working with me hard core. I also think it is fun working with her and magical. I did diagnosed my self and did get treatment but since I have had the miraculous metal on I am healed completely. Crazy stuff and only you may truly understand what she means in your practice. Thank you blessed be. Holy Mother Mary right?
Thank you for addressing the issue of people feeling stuck in a certain mindset and therefore don’t engage in this practice. I feel like that was me for years.
I've been working with Deity directly for years as well. I think there's a weird stigma for some Witches who aren't Pagan that they look down on Witches who are Pagan and do have active relationships with Deity. But you're so right - "we're all Heathen!" and that's really all there is to it. I don't get folks that don't work with Deity but that's their bag and if it works for them - cool beans! I think sometimes our larger community can get a bit judgmental and we all need to remember that each person's path is their own.
I hope you’re still checking the comments on this video because I can’t tell you how helpful and perfect this topic was for me- you’re right, it’s a very niche topic- MY niche! My work with the Morrígan has slowed to a crawl and our connection is definitely lacking lately. It’s nice to hear about someone else’s setbacks on a topic that is not being discussed enough.
I find your videos to be a comfort. I am more of a pagan than I am a witch and most of the things that are ALWAYS presented as a "must do" don't necessarily resonate with me. The talk about "imposter spirits" and how you need to do X,Y,Z and be an advanced practitioner before you ever think of contacting a deity... Only ever managed to make me feel anxious. I can't stress enough that I am a pagan first and not much of a witch. Warding, protection, spells in general - the idea does hold a certain appeal, but I got into spirituality precisely because Christianity was not satisfying my need to believe that I am not alone, and that there is a higher entity (or multiple ones) that actually give a sh*t about me. And if I took something from my years as a Christian Orthodox, is the idea that yeah, you can just talk to god without taking 1000 precautions. The idea of imposter spirits never really... Resonated with me in connection to deities, if that makes sense. I interact with and worship Loki primarily, and I just... Can't see how he would ever let a lower trickster pretend to be him - not just because I am his and he wants to protect me, but because he has a pride of his own. I do resonate with the idea of a malevolent entity posing as a deceased loved one more, because we are talking about something non-human posing as a human. Plus, spirituality is about belief and fate. This whole almost scientific way of talking about it irks me. "You gotta cast a circle, know how to ward - and BE ADVANCED at it, to even dare to think about working with deity" is just... I don't know, kinda entitled. Like, people are gatekeeping deity and claiming that they are oh, so, advanced that now they can interact with the gods, but a so-called "baby witch" shouldn't even dare to dream about it. But what if you got into spirituality precisely because you wanna work with deity??? I am that person. My interest in witchcraft came afterwards, and I am still researching that side of spirituality, but my main objective was to find a deity I can connect with. And for people to start telling me "oh that's not Loki, ur just being tricked by a demon" because a "mere" beginner in witchcraft could never EVER be interacting with a deity... How dare they invalidate my experience. Especially when a. I don't claim to speak for Loki, b. I am not hurting anyone, c. Loki never made me do anything harmful to me and others (which to me is the ultimate proof that I am communicating with a deity and not Pazuzu or something), and d. It's not their goshdang business what I do, if it doesn't affect anyone at all. It's so good to follow a youtuber like you! Someone who believes that all spiritual experiences (so long as they come from a place of respect and sincerity) are valid, and that one's beliefs actually play an important role in their journey. I cleanse my space regularly, and to be honest I usually feel like that helps a lot. I tried casting circles and putting up wards but in all honesty this only ever made me more anxious. Because it implanted in my brain "someone is out to get you, BETTER MAKE SURE THAT CRYSTAL/SIGIL STAYS IN PLACE AND IS ALWAYS 100% charged, BEWAAARE" and ultimately that didn't serve it's purpose of keeping negative things out cause it was stressing me out. So what I do is I cleanse my space, and I specify I only want to talk to a specific spirit/entity and no other, for the time being. And that feels more organic to me than stressing every second of the way that I don't have a ward in place and I need to do 100 tests to make sure Loki is Loki. If Loki never harmed me, and if Loki brought POSITIVE change into my life, that hadn't happened until he stepped in, you best believe I am convinced it's him.
I newly jumped into paganism at the beginning of the year. I had already been working with spirits , clairvoyant, etc. for decades.Once I jumped into it, the gods/deities came. A bunch. I didn’t know they were real. They are. It’s been great, I work every day, they help, my life has been full of surprises. We all chat every day, I see signs ( Bluejay trickster birds), songs, feel them, etc. I really got a lot out of your video. I really haven’t talked to many yet but they may not understand, great so far!
Profound. I pushed and pulled, it was maddening. Researching online, the Pagan & Witch application, and TH-cam etc. was tedious, because I felt I was going in a loop. However, everything said in your video reminded me of everything I told myself in the beginning. Thank you. “Live and let live.”
Thanks for this video. I'm just starting to think about honouring a certain goddess and it's good to hear your perspective. Plus, "Mellow your mammories" love it 😆
Ahh, thank you for this video, Kelly-Ann! I really felt this down in my fucking soul. I'm pretty much the exact type of person that you mentioned this video being for, and this is exactly what I needed. In search of a 'cosmic parent' is so spot-on. I've been loath to really digging in deep with deity for a number of different reasons, mainly because I wanted to see how I felt with 'just' communing with my personification of nature as a whole. I use the term Goddess because that's what called to me, but I was always fascinated by how others speak about their relationships with deity. I guess I was wary of it as a former Christian- the idea of True Believers and Our Way Being the Only Way rubs me wrong, and I wasn't sure if I was ready to 'devote' myself to another deity when I felt at peace and comforted by the universe/nature as a whole. Now that I've done research and I've leaned into the idea of working with deities, I'm more open about the idea than ever and I hope to do it soon.
I think it's really cool how similar our experiences are. I felt called to explore paganism on and off during my teenage years, and even now I'm not sure what it was about it as a whole that constantly had me coming back to different blogs and websites as often as I was. I know I was stubborn early on, and even though I didn't have a solid grasp on what my own relationship with deity was, I remember getting irrationally frustrated by the idea of pop culture paganism and feeling that it was somehow degrading to hard polytheists or those who have relationships with historical, documented deities like Frigga, Hermes, Enkt, and so on. To me, it never made sense how you could revere characters from Game of Thrones, Supernatural, or Final Fantasy since they're fictional - but the more I explored the community and I found channels like yours, the more it started to make sense and put my own views and understanding of deity into perspective. I guess you could say a lot of it was fueled by misconceptions and general misunderstandings about what paganism is and how it's not a single, solitary entity where there's a specific checklist in place. I'm still fairly new finding my path, so it's been tough to remind myself that my connection with deity isn't inherently wrong or irrational as a skeptic in a naturalistic sense. I didn't think think was going to be as long as I planned, but thanks for making this video. It's hard to find to find your place or build a space for yourself in the community as a new comer, but it's pleasant to have a reminder that there's voices like yours out there to show support and understanding.
Totally off topic, but - a) those earrings look bomb af, and b) have always loved your intro music; now probably a little too much, finding myself humming it on repeat as I cleaned my kitchen the other day, and it jumps in my head at least once a day... those same notes, over and over.. make it stop!!! Lol! On topic, I really loved hearing about how you began to work with deity and it was interesting to hear (and surprising to me) how you had felt about it all before you did end up working with them. So glad you followed your urge to do TH-cam, your vids are always super interesting - thank you!
So much of what you said resonated with me. I can not tell you how many times I have had people question my spirituality or my belief in deity when for the most part I am scientific and extremely logical. My answer is always the same. I am scientific, intelligent and logical but I just know and have always known certain things deep within my soul and one of those is my belief in a divine presence. It is good to question, study, discuss and challenge but sometimes there is a point where we may have to accept that not everything can be explained. I do work with personified deity, 2 in particular but I also explore myths and other deities just because it is an interest in mine ( my historian side). As you said it doesn't always happen with a huge bang and fireworks. One of my deities wasnt someone I had ever really thought about but I decided one sabbat to explore her more and slowly it became clear I felt called to work with her and have done since yet my relationship with her is very different to my relationship with my other Goddess. I also work with the Morrigan. However I deliberately avoided anything to do with her for maybe 5 years or more . I just felt she was a cliche, a concept teenage witches liked to throw about as a badge of coolness. I could feel her pull but just stubbornly ignored it. I was not going to jump on the metaphorical band wagon. However one day I stopped fighting so much and started exploring and so many things fell into place yet as you mentioned many of my experiences with her over the last 10 years plus are not the so called typical ones people talk about and I'm ok with that. I have to admit everytime I hear about someone who works with her who is always surrounded with crows I do feel a tiny twinge of of not jealousy but something because that has never been my experience. However I know my 2 Goddesses are with me, i know I have interacted with them, spoke with them, been comforted by them,guided and inspired. It makes no logical sense and others can say as they want and judge if that makes them feel better about themselves but all that does not change my life experiences and what I know is true for me. I have many friends on this path who dont work with deity or personified deity and again that's ok. We each have our own path to walk and our own lessons to learn. Exploring, learning and challenging ourselves is one of the greatest Joy's of life. thank you for sharing your views
How timely! This year, I have moved into a form of "guidance of the Court" tarot reading approach to deepen my relationship with these archetypes. (They had initially seemed like slightly redundant (I beg your pardon) extensions of the Major Arcana back when I first started out studying Thoth, and I hadn't given them that much attention later on). I'm not sure I can explain my actual 'logic' well, because there wasn't much reasoning: I felt this intuitive command to change this state of superficial acquaintance, and I somehow knew that building a relationship with the court would help move through this roadblock between me and personified deity. I'm looking forward to getting there around later this summer or so, at which point I'll surely revisit this video 🖤 I need more quality time with the court first, I'll get there when I get there ✨
Every single point you hit I have been struggling with a lot over the last 3 months and I am so glad to get your advise and insights on this. Thank You!
Isn't that weird how people get so upset with others for doing something they disagree with. Thank you for sharing your view on working for deity. I've stayed away from it because I just don't feel I understand them and therefore I feel fearful that I might do something wrong and get them upset. Thank you for sharing your insights. It has really helped me take another look at working with deity.
This is the first time I caught one of your videos on the day it was posted. It feels fresh! I have posted this video on my journal in the Cartomancy Forum where I channeled the Empress of the Tarot of Vampyres. Thanks for sharing!!! Signed: Your chicken, cherry pie, pop tart, etc.
Thank you for this, my dear. Very informative and inspirational as always. I immediately resonated with it. I was raised in a Christian home, in fact, my father, grandfather, brother and most of my uncles and cousins were/are Christian ministers. Our particular sect of Christianity was Pentecostal, which places a good deal of emphasis on people having an experience called "the baptism of the Holy Spirit" the physical evidence of which is receiving a heavenly language, also known as speaking in tongues. We also believe in things like divine healing through the laying on of hands etc. etc. so I was and am accustomed to supernatural experiences such as people being able to do things they could not or would not normally do such as handle poisonous snakes, fall into trances and the like. I never experienced these things, but my family members did and I believe in the validity of such experiences. But is was also very patriarchal and restrictive in nature. Lots of rules that made no sense to me and patriarchal to the point where no one made a move big or small without the blessing/guidance of the head pastor...who happened to be my uncle. There was lots of love, but also lots of control. Some likened us to a cult, which I thought was a ridiculous accusation until I "got out" and had an objective look at it. Anywho...About 12 years into my own spiritual quest/journey now and am still finding my way. Regarding the subject matter of this video, I remember during the first few years how lost and alone I felt at times when I found myself in situations where I would normally call on Jesus or speak in tongues (because I had been taught that when you didn't know exactly what else or how else to pray you just surrendered to the Holy Spirit and he/she/it prayed through you via an unknown tongue) and I would remember that my beliefs had changed/expanded and I didn't do that anymore. It was a lonely feeling. I came back to have a relationship with Jesus eventually, but in a much different light. I now see that the Christ Consciousness that was in the man Jesus of Nazareth is the same that has been in many ascended masters. Also, within the last year I saw a video where a woman was speaking what she referred to as "Light Language" which she described as a universal language of the soul/spirit that is not cognitively understood nor can be learned because, in her estimation, comes directly from extra-terrestrial beings. It sounded EXACTLY like what I had always known as speaking in tongues. I burst into tears. I felt like I had been given something back, and now, understanding it in a different way, I use it again regularly. I know this is getting long...let me wrap up. Although I have rekindled my relationship with Jesus, I also feel drawn to other deities, for instance, at the beginning of this year I felt called to study the whole concept of Avalon and have recently learned about The Morrigan, with whom I resonate strongly. I agree with everything you said here and thank you for putting it out there. Such a confirmation to people like me that we are on the right path for us and it doesn't have to be the same as anyone else's. Blessings ❤️
Really interesting! I've just started working with personified deities. I've always had a much more Taoist/pantheist approach, but since discovering polyamory I'm now much more open to polytheism. I'm all about the poly at the moment!!
You have definitely helped and inspired me in my education on all sorts of witchy research. You are tops! The tarot training courses are something I've rewatched more than 1x.
Love how you talk about the prism and refraction, it's such a great metaphor! Blessed be Kelly
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Nothing profound to add, just want to say how much I bloody loved this video and the whole vibe you have going on here. Here's to pulling that pineapple out of my arse 😂♥️
Thankyou for making this lovely xo . I have a tricky situation. I am clearly a woman of European descent from New Zealand but I am incredibly drawn to Hoodoo and all things from the African culture which I believe to be a result of a couple of past lives. I have watched your video in Cultural misappropriation, but I really feel like I relate to Oshun or Poma Gira more than the Euro deities. I also work with Archangel Michael, Odin, Sekhmet and Lilith. Thankyou for bring this subject up.
I just want to say thank you for listening to that urge and making this channel. You were extremely helpful to me in a time of my life where I felt completely lost, confused, and worthless (I was going through a divorce from a narcissistic sociopath.) I can't even begin to thank you enough for how much you helped.
Firstly; get out of my brain! I have been mulling over my own thoughts & situation with deity lately, although for me it was because a Goddess came to me (though without the puff of smoke!) and I was just never interested or saw that being a thing I'd be into or open to at all. I'm actually in weird place even now with dedication in that it feels right but I don't quite trust my judgement enough to be sure. Urgh. However I've just put your spiritual counselling session on my birthday-list so...!
Thank you for all you do! You cover the topics that need covering. I am already a subscriber, however this video autoplayed after another video I was watching and it is so on point with what I am going through right now. Everywhere I go is this particular Goddess, and it seems every decision or experience leads back to her. And I have been trying to figure out how I am going to connect, work with and even become a devotee...already I just "know" some workings I am drawn to do, other things are so new I am just absorbing and learning and trying. I have worried about "imagination", but if it benefits me...who is to naysay?
Thanks so much for this video. A lot of this really resonated with me. Growing up my father was a huge atheist and has a lot of negative things to say about religion and spirituality. It has been really had for me at times to accept aspect of my own path because I can hear him in my head saying how stupid they are. He know's I'm spiritual now--but I really wouldn't know how to explain my relationship with Deity of my use of magic to him. Any way I found a lot of what you say here very encouraging.
How do you know when you’re meditating that you’re talking to your deity and it’s just not your brain telling you what you want to hear? I struggle with trusting myself in this matter
I swear you are the perfect mashup between me and my best friend. Visually you could be her doppleganger or long lost twin, but she is solidly wiccan. Myself on the other hand goes by the belief that what I believe today won't be the same as what I believe tommorow because I am always taking in new information and using critical analysis to examine new information and reexamine previously held beliefs that may no longer serve me.
Love you Kelly !! I watch your videos as I need it...love the way you express yourself verbally ...I’m jealous ;-) because English is not my native language...I love the way you express yourself with your fashion...anyway....thank you for your videos. Sending hugs and lots of love 💕 blessed be...
GIRL. This whole video, Dionysus was in the front of my mind. He has come up so often in my life and my mind, and I've been learning about him and thinking about reaching out and working with him and the YOU BROUGHT HIM UP and I'm just sure now that he's been waiting for me to nut up and talk to him. Time for me to take a hint I guess. :P Thanks, hun! Well timed video. :)
Also, I relate to the idea of not being drawn to male "god-head", as you put it, which is what makes it so interesting to me that I was first drawn to Dionysus. I always thought it would be a goddess I would be drawn to. It's interesting.
I describe myself as pagan and solitary witch. I'm very interested in Wicca and hopefully I'll be joining a coven soon. Anyway I believe that all Goddesses are one Goddess. So even though I'm drawn to Kali from a very long time for me She is another face, aspect of the Moon Goddess. So even if I would decide to devote myself to Kali that wouldn't change much. For me. That's my perspective. I'm really enjoying listening to you also I think I didn't get here by accident ;) feel very inspired by your content. Sending love 🖤 BB
Kelly Ann When I was a child ,there always was a screech owl sitting on a branch in a maple tree in the back yard I've always felt that Grandmother ( Baba) Yaga had been around ... Also, I'm half Russian ---- so Grandmother Yaga is a part of my heritage .. Yaga
Just wanted to say I really enjoyed this video! I came across your deity videos recently and they came at a opportune time where I was searching for something more in my life, spiritual-wise. I'm a very logical Virgo-y person so I was definitely feeling some doubt and being on the side lines like you said in your into but I love your approach on the subject! Thanks for making these videos!
You go girl ... you are interesting , dynamic and just wonderful...... I think any one criticising you must be absolutely jealous or/and unconscious... When/If they awaken how embarrassing...
I have 7 dieties lol and two are technically Catholic saints. I found most of them in the Celtic and Greek pantheons, although I have admiration for others. ( I just think people are missing true understanding when they willy nilly choose from foreign pantheons; accidentally twisting dieties into what they’re not so research is paramount). It has been difficult but very real. I was like, yea 2-3 is okay but then they kept knocking. To me it shows how much I have to give as a person and yet how much I have to learn. I do have my head goddess Morrigan, however and my best relationship is with her. Love your videos! ❤️
I felt the same way! I find it’s really difficult, especially for people that are coming out of very strict and cult like religions like Jehovahs Witnesses, like me. Even though I left the religion years ago, some of those teachings that they pound in your head aren’t very easy to remove 😢
Can I just say I recently got into witchcraft and watched all the fancy TH-cam videos regarding it but you are one of the few who does truly informative and meaningful videos and explains he practical side of it? The biggest thanks to you dear, I also feel we have some connection coming from a Christian environment. Lots of love towards you beautiful soul ♥️♥️
It's interesting because for the most part, my deities chose me, though I think with Lilith it was a little less of a Call and more of an offer - she didn't keep Calling the way Hecate did. I kind of go with the flow of things and I think I just felt good and excited that my deities wanted to be on my team and look after me. I work with them because I want my life to get better - I feel like I'm kind of stuck in a ditch right now and it's hard to get back out.
I have chosen to have mother Mary in my life too. I love Tarot and wanted to be protected whilst divining. I also ask Angels to help me with securing my progression with intuition and psychic growth. I don't really understand Wicca but respect others beliefs. I seem to be very drawn towards Angels etc.😊
Could this practice of working with personified deity be similar to Jung's Active Imagination? A way to develop a relationship between conscious and unconscious?
I view deity in this way. I didn't want to work with Brighid, but her archetype was persistent. She definitely was what I needed at the time and helped me develop in myself the character I needed.
Hello Kelly! Absolutely love love love your videos! So beautiful and inspiring! Please keep them coming lol. For real they have helped me so much along my path and my journey to finding myself. Your videos are golden to me ❣️ but I had a question on how I could go about connecting with my Matron Hecate on a deeper and more cosmic level. I would really like your input on that, because if you know Hecate you know she is not one for coddling lol. And I want to approach her properly and with upmost respect. She has given me so much strength and I have learned so much from her. But I really want to connect on a deeper level, iam a solitary practitioner and don't really have anyone to go to for advice on things of this nature. If you could please help and share with me some of your input I'd be most grateful! Thank you so much for you being you and your awesome videos! So much love and light to you❣️ Blessed Be..
'Imagine being a polyamorous pansexual'. 😂😂 I've considered making a set of flash cards. Great video, as ever. There are so many conceptions of, and ways to work with, deity. If it works for someone, awesome.
So I’ve been at this a while but avoided Deity and Spirit work/communication because I wasn’t comfortable with it yet. Well, now I am and know NOTHING and I hate it 😭 Apollo’s little picture that I have propped up in front of his candle blew over facedown this morning and I don’t think it was air... I don’t know if he wants my attention or if he is saying that he doesn’t want to work with me like he did when I was younger...
About seeing a particular face of a deity; I found this to be very true for my patron, Brighid. I wanted a death goddess or something badass and I got...the mother figure, the midwife, the healer. Why? As I embraced her I began to see the badassery in motherhood. She invented keening and has known great loss and pain, midwifery is a messy, difficult business. Breastfeeding is HARD. She has also seen battle. She is also the patron of metalcraft, which is not a fluffy trade whatsoever. She helps bring life into this world, but she also wields a sword. She is a stern mother in that she will nourish you but she will also temper you in the flame. People who paint her as all-gentle; I don't relate to that. It's what put me off initially in the first place, but we all meet the goddess/god/Spirit where we are. My partner and I are now on the journey to become foster parents-and it isn't easy. So many people have said "I could never do that!" My patron makes even more sense now.
what do I do if kali is my spirit guide Im just like lost lmao like I wanna do all these things for her bc what she's done for me but I just don't know
Hi...I am in the process of going back and watching all the videos you linked in the description box. Just finished the one called "Deity Through the Lens of Consciousness"...excellent! I asked a question in the comment section, but then realized the video is several years old and don't know if you go back and look at comments on old videos, so I will repeat my question here: You mentioned a word I'm not familiar with several times. It sounded like you were saying "I'm a K.O." ... but I'm thinking it's a word related in some way to the word "chaos"... could you expand on that for me, please? Thx!
Thank you for this! I appreciate your insight on this. I do have a question, what happens when you think you are working with a specific deity and your experience is so different from other peoples experience with her? Is it possible that I have interpreted her signs to me wrong and I am working with a completely different deity or could it be that I am seeing a side of her that is different than other people who have more years of experience working with her? I have been considering taking an oath to her but am fearful that I am mistaken as to who I am working with. I think I have still been receiving confirmation that I am correct.
Well Africans or aboriginals traditionally honor saints now not worship them. Great video by the way. Been doing a lot of research on meditation lately helps if someone meditates let’s say before reading a book or practicing math. As regards to Chaos theory so far it’s still just a theory. Also the folkloric devil is traditionally comes to find out if I’m not mistaken for a lot of negro practitioners isn’t that Elegua. Or so the “Vatican” has led negro spiritualists to believe. Cool beans the Norse Kabbalistic tree is similar to the Kemetician tree of life which is the Shamanistic tree. You know the matron saint of Hel from my perspective is Hekate the Saint Of Black Magick. Or better known as the left hand path.
I’m sure you must get this a lot already but just in case I’m gonna put it out there! Have you ever considered starting a podcast? Even recording while you film your videos? I would love! to take you on a road trip with me! Js. ☺️
Can anybody describe well the experience of a deity encounter? I’ve heard you can experience them just like another human. Details please. Extremely curious…..
My goddess blinks at me , offends me , annoys me sometimes.. but also can make me happy , tells me she have faith in me , seem to want to help me . She told me once 'love is doing not talking!' (in a pissed way lol) .., she stabbed me in the heart literally (in a dream) . I tried to dumb her once ..i remember saying to her in a dream once 'you can't control me!' ...but later she came after few weeks and gave me a mini vision of heaven and she protested when i thought of her to be some evil goddess (demon) , that vision really restored my faith in her ...but this relationship seem bit weird and complicated to me sometimes . I think maybe i am schizophrenic bcoz i did take drugs(sporadically) ...but also i was a monk in the past for long time and she is a goddess from that monk times .., well i am sometimes tired of this relationship ... when i am 'normal' and not on drugs i love and crave solitude and she doesn't fit into my solitary life ( i don't have friends, or any family) but when i take drugs i have like different persona . Oh yea also i wanted to kill myself but she told me not to do it (i tried anyway but failed) , i struggle with anxiety and depression my whole life (mainly coz of people- i am overly sensitive.. i think) ...but i never feel lonely , still i desire to die bcoz i just don't like the nature of this world and there is to many evil people around (imo),..but that goddess is pushing me for this idiot life and that pisses me off , i am in conflict bcoz of her, part of me likes her the other part wished she stop 'disturbing' me and go away .
It’s funny because I’ve recently wanted to make an Eddie Vedder God candle. Normally, I have no problem with pop pantheons but I’m a bit ambivalent because he’s a living person. I’d love to hear others’ thoughts on this.
Ultimately, it’s my relationship to how I feel when I listen to his music and what I think of him as a person. I don’t want to deify him because I don’t really know him, but the image in my mind of what a positive male archetype can be would be somewhat of the personality I have grown to put upon him.
I’m just curious what you your opinions are, if you have any, on gender parity between a practitioner and the primary Deity they work with... I’ve noticed that typically, at least in what I’ve come across, male identified people tend toward God work and female identified people tend toward Goddess work. I ask because (despite my profile pic) I identify as a male in my day to day life yet I’ve been feeling very drawn toward the Goddess Ceridwen for some time now... I am a drag queen (thus the picture lol) so I do feel a level of gender fluidity in general and she is a Goddess of transformation so for me it does feel like a good fit... Just curious what your philosophy on Gender in Deity work is.
Im having some issues surounding finding a deity I just cant conect with eurocentric panthions , and it would be realy inappropriate to look to indigenous australian deity so for now i guss ill just have to let it be , but yeah i can realy feel the jealousy when people are talking about relationship with deity
Do you feel that someone like myself who only sees diety as a symbol and not "real", can still have that close of a relationship with that symbolic diety? btw your hair is getting so long again! your lookin good girl! ♥
Kelly, These people you are talking about should not even be on your channel if they don't have an open mind. I mean really. Ridiculous. Live and let live. I watch you because I believe in you. If I did not believe in you then I would move on to another channel rather than bash you or your beliefs. I do not get them and I never will. I just believe that if you believe or like someone's Chanel, watch it and give positive feedback. If not, move on.
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'pull the pineapple out of your arse'
Come for the spiritual guidance, stay for the colourful metaphors 😂
“I want one of those...I want a fuckin cosmic parent...”
Best line eva! 😘
One of my big problems working with deity is that I chronically overthink. I question everything I do -- am I doing enough? am I doing it often enough? is what I'm doing good enough? am *I* good enough? Worthiness is a struggle for me. Because Loki came to me, not the other way round, I often have this nagging voice in my head asking why *me* out of all the people he could have chosen.
It's not quite as bad as it was at first. There was a point not too far into things where he made me start over, and it was months before I could come back to him, but I was obviously more ready the second time. I just can't ever shake the feeling of fumbling through the dark. He even told me recently through a tarot reading that I'd be a lot happier if I quit trying to be overly intellectual about working with him, but right now that feels practically impossible.
'He even told me recently through a tarot reading that I'd be a lot happier if I quit trying to be overly intellectual about working with him, but right now that feels practically impossible.'
Loki is a long way from perfect, so why would he expect those who work with him to be?
@@kelly-annmaddoxThank you for your response and encouragement. I really appreciate it.
Baby step by baby step mate, you need to explore yourself and figure out WHY you find yourself unworthy of a god that came to YOU? Why do you feel so in the dark, do some shadow work ♡ ask for Loki to help you with this if you please, but let me tell you noa, just so you know, you're are fucking incredible, you literally are the universe (if you believe in the universe) you are incredible, beautiful, and so incredibly worthy ♡♡♡ know this now ♡♡♡
Can you describe well a typical encounter?
Aaaaand there is Kelly Ann, once again putting out a video on topic I happen to have been musing on only a few days before.
Niiiice! Love it when this happens!
"The evidence I'm looking for is experiential." YES. Perfectly succinct way of describing it.
Very helpful video, especially as someone recovering from an Abrahamic faith. It makes me think about how if we are bodies in need of physical parents, why would it be so different for our spirits? It makes sense that our spirits would crave suitable 'parental' or 'mentor' figures, too. There should be no shame in that. ❤
I can relate to that jealousy. I'm agnostic and desperately wish I could clutch to something beyond me. Something Divine. I think sometimes I'm scared to open up. Like I'll be shook, but not in a positive way.
I’m a Christian and honestly I feel not jealousy but sort of like ‘wow that would be a cool experience’ when I hear about others having these encounters with famous deities. But because of my faith I don’t think I will ever have that experience on this side of eternity. That and the fact that I don’t entirely trust the process. Would I be getting myself into something that is not easily reversed? Would that deity or another pursue me at some point? What is my end of the bargain exactly? Like the deities themselves, I believe there is a lot that is unseen, unknown, or otherwise hidden, the very meaning of the occult.
I've recently discovered your channel and have been devouring it like hot cakes, I saved so many of your videos to my Watch Later folder that I eventually stopped because I realized I'm just going to have to watch every single one. I appreciate you sharing all your knowledge so much!
@@Anna36936 😍😍😍 Wow, thank you angel xx
at 19:24 or bit earlier so interesting. IN this life I am African-American, visually and last ancestors. But I just made a video on working with ancestors that was hard for me: as my take is a bit different and your comments (excellent re: appropriation,) sparked me to write. While knowing that awareness of cultural appr. is vital esp. for those from communities that have historically done this, at the same time I have like a meta view.
I'm studying shamanism, which ok I may tangent so- I won't. There are still very active lineages of AFrican spirituality where ancestor worship is extant. But as a Western woman of Af-american descent it's interesting that referring to shamanism because in fact my direct lineage is destroyed. Ok. So I think and have seen that the ancestry each of us may identify with now- is such a thin veneer! For ex. any "mixed race" individual depending who they marry will produce a child that literally may not look like grandparent who may be from a different ethinic group.
In a Sham. Journey, an Irish ancestor of mine showed up! On the side of my very black dad! My teacher laughed as I told her my journey-- and only then revealed that her guides said to her of me "tell (my name) not to be surprised if she ends up in Europe!" Turns out Kelly-Ann, that many black females in the US because of rape and I'm sure some consensual relationships too- have on their father's side much more European ancestry. I did not know this at the time. So to wrap up. In terms of shamanism- that same teacher- shared of a young well to do male whose ancestor that appeared to him and guides him is in fact an African tribal male that was a ancient ancestor. How can one hold this truth within the context of cultural appropriation?
I'd love comments here and feedback on this point. Now is this slightly off deity...I'm thinking I mixed this but say working with an Indian deity...turns out again in the Caribbean many East Indians from a specific region (who were Goddess worshipers) were indentured and brought to the West Indies, where they intermixed with enslaved Africans. I found this out recently as I've always been draw to Indian cultural in a very deep way- but my family history does not mention South East Asian. Yet this research showed me that someone who is African-heritage from the Carribean in fact may have East Indian direct lineage to an Indian Goddess! So its a very deep and rich topic.
Thank you for chiming in on this subject. Right away I am going to disclose that Mother Mary came to me in a big way. You were also apart of this transformation. I was very mentally ill and my brain wanted me to die. I had placed here on my alter and I prayed to her and put me life in her hands. I am still writing this so me prayers were answered. But when I found the miraculous metal is when things got really crazy. I felt her in my body like beams of light coming out of my head, hands and feet. She was there without a doubt. I went to a catholic church yesterday and now have a bottle of holy water and she was everywhere. I feel incredibly blessed and also a bit like a copy cat. But it happened and she is working with me hard core. I also think it is fun working with her and magical. I did diagnosed my self and did get treatment but since I have had the miraculous metal on I am healed completely. Crazy stuff and only you may truly understand what she means in your practice. Thank you blessed be. Holy Mother Mary right?
My eyes have opened up a lot by watching this. I appreciate it. Thank you.
This is some wacky universal timings and synchronsities... Had a deep reconnection with my main guy the past couple of days. Love you 💕💕💕
Thank you for addressing the issue of people feeling stuck in a certain mindset and therefore don’t engage in this practice. I feel like that was me for years.
I've been working with Deity directly for years as well. I think there's a weird stigma for some Witches who aren't Pagan that they look down on Witches who are Pagan and do have active relationships with Deity. But you're so right - "we're all Heathen!" and that's really all there is to it. I don't get folks that don't work with Deity but that's their bag and if it works for them - cool beans! I think sometimes our larger community can get a bit judgmental and we all need to remember that each person's path is their own.
I hope you’re still checking the comments on this video because I can’t tell you how helpful and perfect this topic was for me- you’re right, it’s a very niche topic- MY niche! My work with the Morrígan has slowed to a crawl and our connection is definitely lacking lately. It’s nice to hear about someone else’s setbacks on a topic that is not being discussed enough.
I find your videos to be a comfort.
I am more of a pagan than I am a witch and most of the things that are ALWAYS presented as a "must do" don't necessarily resonate with me. The talk about "imposter spirits" and how you need to do X,Y,Z and be an advanced practitioner before you ever think of contacting a deity... Only ever managed to make me feel anxious.
I can't stress enough that I am a pagan first and not much of a witch. Warding, protection, spells in general - the idea does hold a certain appeal, but I got into spirituality precisely because Christianity was not satisfying my need to believe that I am not alone, and that there is a higher entity (or multiple ones) that actually give a sh*t about me. And if I took something from my years as a Christian Orthodox, is the idea that yeah, you can just talk to god without taking 1000 precautions. The idea of imposter spirits never really... Resonated with me in connection to deities, if that makes sense. I interact with and worship Loki primarily, and I just... Can't see how he would ever let a lower trickster pretend to be him - not just because I am his and he wants to protect me, but because he has a pride of his own.
I do resonate with the idea of a malevolent entity posing as a deceased loved one more, because we are talking about something non-human posing as a human.
Plus, spirituality is about belief and fate. This whole almost scientific way of talking about it irks me. "You gotta cast a circle, know how to ward - and BE ADVANCED at it, to even dare to think about working with deity" is just... I don't know, kinda entitled. Like, people are gatekeeping deity and claiming that they are oh, so, advanced that now they can interact with the gods, but a so-called "baby witch" shouldn't even dare to dream about it.
But what if you got into spirituality precisely because you wanna work with deity??? I am that person. My interest in witchcraft came afterwards, and I am still researching that side of spirituality, but my main objective was to find a deity I can connect with.
And for people to start telling me "oh that's not Loki, ur just being tricked by a demon" because a "mere" beginner in witchcraft could never EVER be interacting with a deity... How dare they invalidate my experience.
Especially when a. I don't claim to speak for Loki, b. I am not hurting anyone, c. Loki never made me do anything harmful to me and others (which to me is the ultimate proof that I am communicating with a deity and not Pazuzu or something), and d. It's not their goshdang business what I do, if it doesn't affect anyone at all.
It's so good to follow a youtuber like you! Someone who believes that all spiritual experiences (so long as they come from a place of respect and sincerity) are valid, and that one's beliefs actually play an important role in their journey.
I cleanse my space regularly, and to be honest I usually feel like that helps a lot. I tried casting circles and putting up wards but in all honesty this only ever made me more anxious. Because it implanted in my brain "someone is out to get you, BETTER MAKE SURE THAT CRYSTAL/SIGIL STAYS IN PLACE AND IS ALWAYS 100% charged, BEWAAARE" and ultimately that didn't serve it's purpose of keeping negative things out cause it was stressing me out.
So what I do is I cleanse my space, and I specify I only want to talk to a specific spirit/entity and no other, for the time being.
And that feels more organic to me than stressing every second of the way that I don't have a ward in place and I need to do 100 tests to make sure Loki is Loki.
If Loki never harmed me, and if Loki brought POSITIVE change into my life, that hadn't happened until he stepped in, you best believe I am convinced it's him.
I newly jumped into paganism at the beginning of the year. I had already been working with spirits , clairvoyant, etc. for decades.Once I jumped into it, the gods/deities came. A bunch. I didn’t know they were real. They are. It’s been great, I work every day, they help, my life has been full of surprises. We all chat every day, I see signs ( Bluejay trickster birds), songs, feel them, etc. I really got a lot out of your video. I really haven’t talked to many yet but they may not understand, great so far!
Profound. I pushed and pulled, it was maddening. Researching online, the Pagan & Witch application, and TH-cam etc. was tedious, because I felt I was going in a loop. However, everything said in your video reminded me of everything I told myself in the beginning. Thank you. “Live and let live.”
Thanks for this video. I'm just starting to think about honouring a certain goddess and it's good to hear your perspective. Plus, "Mellow your mammories" love it 😆
Ahh, thank you for this video, Kelly-Ann! I really felt this down in my fucking soul. I'm pretty much the exact type of person that you mentioned this video being for, and this is exactly what I needed.
In search of a 'cosmic parent' is so spot-on.
I've been loath to really digging in deep with deity for a number of different reasons, mainly because I wanted to see how I felt with 'just' communing with my personification of nature as a whole. I use the term Goddess because that's what called to me, but I was always fascinated by how others speak about their relationships with deity. I guess I was wary of it as a former Christian- the idea of True Believers and Our Way Being the Only Way rubs me wrong, and I wasn't sure if I was ready to 'devote' myself to another deity when I felt at peace and comforted by the universe/nature as a whole.
Now that I've done research and I've leaned into the idea of working with deities, I'm more open about the idea than ever and I hope to do it soon.
I think it's really cool how similar our experiences are.
I felt called to explore paganism on and off during my teenage years, and even now I'm not sure what it was about it as a whole that constantly had me coming back to different blogs and websites as often as I was. I know I was stubborn early on, and even though I didn't have a solid grasp on what my own relationship with deity was, I remember getting irrationally frustrated by the idea of pop culture paganism and feeling that it was somehow degrading to hard polytheists or those who have relationships with historical, documented deities like Frigga, Hermes, Enkt, and so on. To me, it never made sense how you could revere characters from Game of Thrones, Supernatural, or Final Fantasy since they're fictional - but the more I explored the community and I found channels like yours, the more it started to make sense and put my own views and understanding of deity into perspective.
I guess you could say a lot of it was fueled by misconceptions and general misunderstandings about what paganism is and how it's not a single, solitary entity where there's a specific checklist in place. I'm still fairly new finding my path, so it's been tough to remind myself that my connection with deity isn't inherently wrong or irrational as a skeptic in a naturalistic sense.
I didn't think think was going to be as long as I planned, but thanks for making this video. It's hard to find to find your place or build a space for yourself in the community as a new comer, but it's pleasant to have a reminder that there's voices like yours out there to show support and understanding.
Totally off topic, but - a) those earrings look bomb af, and b) have always loved your intro music; now probably a little too much, finding myself humming it on repeat as I cleaned my kitchen the other day, and it jumps in my head at least once a day... those same notes, over and over.. make it stop!!! Lol! On topic, I really loved hearing about how you began to work with deity and it was interesting to hear (and surprising to me) how you had felt about it all before you did end up working with them. So glad you followed your urge to do TH-cam, your vids are always super interesting - thank you!
So much of what you said resonated with me. I can not tell you how many times I have had people question my spirituality or my belief in deity when for the most part I am scientific and extremely logical. My answer is always the same. I am scientific, intelligent and logical but I just know and have always known certain things deep within my soul and one of those is my belief in a divine presence. It is good to question, study, discuss and challenge but sometimes there is a point where we may have to accept that not everything can be explained. I do work with personified deity, 2 in particular but I also explore myths and other deities just because it is an interest in mine ( my historian side). As you said it doesn't always happen with a huge bang and fireworks. One of my deities wasnt someone I had ever really thought about but I decided one sabbat to explore her more and slowly it became clear I felt called to work with her and have done since yet my relationship with her is very different to my relationship with my other Goddess. I also work with the Morrigan. However I deliberately avoided anything to do with her for maybe 5 years or more . I just felt she was a cliche, a concept teenage witches liked to throw about as a badge of coolness. I could feel her pull but just stubbornly ignored it. I was not going to jump on the metaphorical band wagon. However one day I stopped fighting so much and started exploring and so many things fell into place yet as you mentioned many of my experiences with her over the last 10 years plus are not the so called typical ones people talk about and I'm ok with that. I have to admit everytime I hear about someone who works with her who is always surrounded with crows I do feel a tiny twinge of of not jealousy but something because that has never been my experience. However I know my 2 Goddesses are with me, i know I have interacted with them, spoke with them, been comforted by them,guided and inspired. It makes no logical sense and others can say as they want and judge if that makes them feel better about themselves but all that does not change my life experiences and what I know is true for me. I have many friends on this path who dont work with deity or personified deity and again that's ok. We each have our own path to walk and our own lessons to learn. Exploring, learning and challenging ourselves is one of the greatest Joy's of life. thank you for sharing your views
Thank you so much for this video! You really explained a lot of things I've wondering on my new journey & path as far as Deity goes. Blessed Be!
How timely! This year, I have moved into a form of "guidance of the Court" tarot reading approach to deepen my relationship with these archetypes. (They had initially seemed like slightly redundant (I beg your pardon) extensions of the Major Arcana back when I first started out studying Thoth, and I hadn't given them that much attention later on). I'm not sure I can explain my actual 'logic' well, because there wasn't much reasoning: I felt this intuitive command to change this state of superficial acquaintance, and I somehow knew that building a relationship with the court would help move through this roadblock between me and personified deity. I'm looking forward to getting there around later this summer or so, at which point I'll surely revisit this video 🖤 I need more quality time with the court first, I'll get there when I get there ✨
Every single point you hit I have been struggling with a lot over the last 3 months and I am so glad to get your advise and insights on this. Thank You!
Isn't that weird how people get so upset with others for doing something they disagree with. Thank you for sharing your view on working for deity. I've stayed away from it because I just don't feel I understand them and therefore I feel fearful that I might do something wrong and get them upset. Thank you for sharing your insights. It has really helped me take another look at working with deity.
This is the first time I caught one of your videos on the day it was posted. It feels fresh! I have posted this video on my journal in the Cartomancy Forum where I channeled the Empress of the Tarot of Vampyres. Thanks for sharing!!! Signed: Your chicken, cherry pie, pop tart, etc.
Thank you for this, my dear. Very informative and inspirational as always. I immediately resonated with it. I was raised in a Christian home, in fact, my father, grandfather, brother and most of my uncles and cousins were/are Christian ministers. Our particular sect of Christianity was Pentecostal, which places a good deal of emphasis on people having an experience called "the baptism of the Holy Spirit" the physical evidence of which is receiving a heavenly language, also known as speaking in tongues. We also believe in things like divine healing through the laying on of hands etc. etc. so I was and am accustomed to supernatural experiences such as people being able to do things they could not or would not normally do such as handle poisonous snakes, fall into trances and the like. I never experienced these things, but my family members did and I believe in the validity of such experiences.
But is was also very patriarchal and restrictive in nature. Lots of rules that made no sense to me and patriarchal to the point where no one made a move big or small without the blessing/guidance of the head pastor...who happened to be my uncle. There was lots of love, but also lots of control. Some likened us to a cult, which I thought was a ridiculous accusation until I "got out" and had an objective look at it.
Anywho...About 12 years into my own spiritual quest/journey now and am still finding my way. Regarding the subject matter of this video, I remember during the first few years how lost and alone I felt at times when I found myself in situations where I would normally call on Jesus or speak in tongues (because I had been taught that when you didn't know exactly what else or how else to pray you just surrendered to the Holy Spirit and he/she/it prayed through you via an unknown tongue) and I would remember that my beliefs had changed/expanded and I didn't do that anymore. It was a lonely feeling. I came back to have a relationship with Jesus eventually, but in a much different light. I now see that the Christ Consciousness that was in the man Jesus of Nazareth is the same that has been in many ascended masters.
Also, within the last year I saw a video where a woman was speaking what she referred to as "Light Language" which she described as a universal language of the soul/spirit that is not cognitively understood nor can be learned because, in her estimation, comes directly from extra-terrestrial beings. It sounded EXACTLY like what I had always known as speaking in tongues. I burst into tears. I felt like I had been given something back, and now, understanding it in a different way, I use it again regularly.
I know this is getting long...let me wrap up. Although I have rekindled my relationship with Jesus, I also feel drawn to other deities, for instance, at the beginning of this year I felt called to study the whole concept of Avalon and have recently learned about The Morrigan, with whom I resonate strongly. I agree with everything you said here and thank you for putting it out there. Such a confirmation to people like me that we are on the right path for us and it doesn't have to be the same as anyone else's. Blessings ❤️
Really interesting! I've just started working with personified deities. I've always had a much more Taoist/pantheist approach, but since discovering polyamory I'm now much more open to polytheism. I'm all about the poly at the moment!!
You have definitely helped and inspired me in my education on all sorts of witchy research. You are tops! The tarot training courses are something I've rewatched more than 1x.
Love how you talk about the prism and refraction, it's such a great metaphor! Blessed be Kelly
Nothing profound to add, just want to say how much I bloody loved this video and the whole vibe you have going on here. Here's to pulling that pineapple out of my arse 😂♥️
Thankyou for making this lovely xo . I have a tricky situation. I am clearly a woman of European descent from New Zealand but I am incredibly drawn to Hoodoo and all things from the African culture which I believe to be a result of a couple of past lives. I have watched your video in Cultural misappropriation, but I really feel like I relate to Oshun or Poma Gira more than the Euro deities. I also work with Archangel Michael, Odin, Sekhmet and Lilith. Thankyou for bring this subject up.
I just want to say thank you for listening to that urge and making this channel. You were extremely helpful to me in a time of my life where I felt completely lost, confused, and worthless (I was going through a divorce from a narcissistic sociopath.) I can't even begin to thank you enough for how much you helped.
Firstly; get out of my brain! I have been mulling over my own thoughts & situation with deity lately, although for me it was because a Goddess came to me (though without the puff of smoke!) and I was just never interested or saw that being a thing I'd be into or open to at all.
I'm actually in weird place even now with dedication in that it feels right but I don't quite trust my judgement enough to be sure. Urgh. However I've just put your spiritual counselling session on my birthday-list so...!
I really dig your vibe and the 'take no shit in living my life' attitude you embody. Love love LOVE it.
Another brilliant video ❤thanks
Thank you for all you do! You cover the topics that need covering. I am already a subscriber, however this video autoplayed after another video I was watching and it is so on point with what I am going through right now. Everywhere I go is this particular Goddess, and it seems every decision or experience leads back to her. And I have been trying to figure out how I am going to connect, work with and even become a devotee...already I just "know" some workings I am drawn to do, other things are so new I am just absorbing and learning and trying. I have worried about "imagination", but if it benefits me...who is to naysay?
Thanks so much for this video. A lot of this really resonated with me. Growing up my father was a huge atheist and has a lot of negative things to say about religion and spirituality. It has been really had for me at times to accept aspect of my own path because I can hear him in my head saying how stupid they are. He know's I'm spiritual now--but I really wouldn't know how to explain my relationship with Deity of my use of magic to him. Any way I found a lot of what you say here very encouraging.
23:29 is SO freaking adorable, the most endearing I have ever seen you be!
16:40 omg 😳 this makes sense for me because the dream I had of a diety isn’t Amy I’ve seen
How do you know when you’re meditating that you’re talking to your deity and it’s just not your brain telling you what you want to hear? I struggle with trusting myself in this matter
My teacher tells me there's no real difference, and not to overthink it.
I swear you are the perfect mashup between me and my best friend. Visually you could be her doppleganger or long lost twin, but she is solidly wiccan. Myself on the other hand goes by the belief that what I believe today won't be the same as what I believe tommorow because I am always taking in new information and using critical analysis to examine new information and reexamine previously held beliefs that may no longer serve me.
Love you Kelly !! I watch your videos as I need it...love the way you express yourself verbally ...I’m jealous ;-) because English is not my native language...I love the way you express yourself with your fashion...anyway....thank you for your videos. Sending hugs and lots of love 💕 blessed be...
Thank you... I have been mulling this over for a while now, and you always have a way of making something that seems crazy make sense :)
GIRL. This whole video, Dionysus was in the front of my mind. He has come up so often in my life and my mind, and I've been learning about him and thinking about reaching out and working with him and the YOU BROUGHT HIM UP and I'm just sure now that he's been waiting for me to nut up and talk to him. Time for me to take a hint I guess. :P
Thanks, hun! Well timed video. :)
Also, I relate to the idea of not being drawn to male "god-head", as you put it, which is what makes it so interesting to me that I was first drawn to Dionysus. I always thought it would be a goddess I would be drawn to. It's interesting.
This is a wonderful telling
I really enjoyed it
It’s just what I needed to hear .... and confirm for myself 🧐😋
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I describe myself as pagan and solitary witch. I'm very interested in Wicca and hopefully I'll be joining a coven soon. Anyway I believe that all Goddesses are one Goddess. So even though I'm drawn to Kali from a very long time for me She is another face, aspect of the Moon Goddess. So even if I would decide to devote myself to Kali that wouldn't change much. For me. That's my perspective. I'm really enjoying listening to you also I think I didn't get here by accident ;) feel very inspired by your content. Sending love 🖤 BB
Kelly Ann When I was a child ,there always was a screech owl sitting on a branch in a maple tree in the back yard
I've always felt that Grandmother ( Baba) Yaga had been around ...
Also, I'm half Russian ----
so Grandmother Yaga is a part of my heritage ..
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Just wanted to say I really enjoyed this video! I came across your deity videos recently and they came at a opportune time where I was searching for something more in my life, spiritual-wise. I'm a very logical Virgo-y person so I was definitely feeling some doubt and being on the side lines like you said in your into but I love your approach on the subject! Thanks for making these videos!
Yay! 😁 Clicked as quickly as I could!✨ I have missed your videos ❤️
As always, love love love and yes yes yes
My gods how ove missed your deity videos!!
You go girl ... you are interesting , dynamic and just wonderful...... I think any one criticising you must be absolutely jealous or/and unconscious... When/If they awaken how embarrassing...
I have 7 dieties lol and two are technically Catholic saints. I found most of them in the Celtic and Greek pantheons, although I have admiration for others. ( I just think people are missing true understanding when they willy nilly choose from foreign pantheons; accidentally twisting dieties into what they’re not so research is paramount). It has been difficult but very real. I was like, yea 2-3 is okay but then they kept knocking. To me it shows how much I have to give as a person and yet how much I have to learn. I do have my head goddess Morrigan, however and my best relationship is with her. Love your videos! ❤️
Such an awesome video! Just love listening to you 😊
I felt the same way! I find it’s really difficult, especially for people that are coming out of very strict and cult like religions like Jehovahs Witnesses, like me. Even though I left the religion years ago, some of those teachings that they pound in your head aren’t very easy to remove 😢
Right on.
Can I just say I recently got into witchcraft and watched all the fancy TH-cam videos regarding it but you are one of the few who does truly informative and meaningful videos and explains he practical side of it? The biggest thanks to you dear, I also feel we have some connection coming from a Christian environment. Lots of love towards you beautiful soul ♥️♥️
Wonderfully said! 💜💜💜
I needed this video
It's interesting because for the most part, my deities chose me, though I think with Lilith it was a little less of a Call and more of an offer - she didn't keep Calling the way Hecate did. I kind of go with the flow of things and I think I just felt good and excited that my deities wanted to be on my team and look after me. I work with them because I want my life to get better - I feel like I'm kind of stuck in a ditch right now and it's hard to get back out.
Yay you!❤️ Keep up the good work!
I have chosen to have mother Mary in my life too. I love Tarot and wanted to be protected whilst divining. I also ask Angels to help me with securing my progression with intuition and psychic growth. I don't really understand Wicca but respect others beliefs. I seem to be very drawn towards Angels etc.😊
Omg ....thank you !!!
Could this practice of working with personified deity be similar to Jung's Active Imagination? A way to develop a relationship between conscious and unconscious?
I view deity in this way. I didn't want to work with Brighid, but her archetype was persistent. She definitely was what I needed at the time and helped me develop in myself the character I needed.
Great video
OMGoddess a Tyler Durden reference. You are my sort of woman Kelly-Ann xx
Good video
Appreciate the nuance and discernment about not throwing the baby out with the bathwater (in general.) It’s refreshing to run into. 😏
ah, so glad!
Hello Kelly! Absolutely love love love your videos! So beautiful and inspiring! Please keep them coming lol. For real they have helped me so much along my path and my journey to finding myself. Your videos are golden to me ❣️ but I had a question on how I could go about connecting with my Matron Hecate on a deeper and more cosmic level. I would really like your input on that, because if you know Hecate you know she is not one for coddling lol. And I want to approach her properly and with upmost respect. She has given me so much strength and I have learned so much from her. But I really want to connect on a deeper level, iam a solitary practitioner and don't really have anyone to go to for advice on things of this nature. If you could please help and share with me some of your input I'd be most grateful! Thank you so much for you being you and your awesome videos! So much love and light to you❣️ Blessed Be..
'Imagine being a polyamorous pansexual'. 😂😂 I've considered making a set of flash cards. Great video, as ever. There are so many conceptions of, and ways to work with, deity. If it works for someone, awesome.
Came to the gods at first
For blessings but chose to stay
For The friendships instead
So I’ve been at this a while but avoided Deity and Spirit work/communication because I wasn’t comfortable with it yet. Well, now I am and know NOTHING and I hate it 😭 Apollo’s little picture that I have propped up in front of his candle blew over facedown this morning and I don’t think it was air... I don’t know if he wants my attention or if he is saying that he doesn’t want to work with me like he did when I was younger...
About seeing a particular face of a deity; I found this to be very true for my patron, Brighid. I wanted a death goddess or something badass and I got...the mother figure, the midwife, the healer. Why? As I embraced her I began to see the badassery in motherhood. She invented keening and has known great loss and pain, midwifery is a messy, difficult business. Breastfeeding is HARD. She has also seen battle. She is also the patron of metalcraft, which is not a fluffy trade whatsoever. She helps bring life into this world, but she also wields a sword. She is a stern mother in that she will nourish you but she will also temper you in the flame. People who paint her as all-gentle; I don't relate to that. It's what put me off initially in the first place, but we all meet the goddess/god/Spirit where we are. My partner and I are now on the journey to become foster parents-and it isn't easy. So many people have said "I could never do that!" My patron makes even more sense now.
your earrings are so rad
what do I do if kali is my spirit guide Im just like lost lmao like I wanna do all these things for her bc what she's done for me but I just don't know
Have you heard the song (The Labyrinth by Asaf Avidan) it ties in with the Dionysus references... and mythopoetics.. :-)
Hi...I am in the process of going back and watching all the videos you linked in the description box. Just finished the one called "Deity Through the Lens of Consciousness"...excellent! I asked a question in the comment section, but then realized the video is several years old and don't know if you go back and look at comments on old videos, so I will repeat my question here: You mentioned a word I'm not familiar with several times. It sounded like you were saying "I'm a K.O." ... but I'm thinking it's a word related in some way to the word "chaos"... could you expand on that for me, please? Thx!
Merging the conscious with the unconscious. Living the dream world within the corporeal world. Hacking consciousness. Magick. But can become religion.
Thank you for this! I appreciate your insight on this.
I do have a question, what happens when you think you are working with a specific deity and your experience is so different from other peoples experience with her? Is it possible that I have interpreted her signs to me wrong and I am working with a completely different deity or could it be that I am seeing a side of her that is different than other people who have more years of experience working with her?
I have been considering taking an oath to her but am fearful that I am mistaken as to who I am working with. I think I have still been receiving confirmation that I am correct.
what if I have more than one in mind? Ganesh came to me several times, but I also feel drawn to Vishnu and Shiva
Do you think that deity connection is possible for non pagans and witches?
Well Africans or aboriginals traditionally honor saints now not worship them. Great video by the way. Been doing a lot of research on meditation lately helps if someone meditates let’s say before reading a book or practicing math. As regards to Chaos theory so far it’s still just a theory. Also the folkloric devil is traditionally comes to find out if I’m not mistaken for a lot of negro practitioners isn’t that Elegua. Or so the “Vatican” has led negro spiritualists to believe. Cool beans the Norse Kabbalistic tree is similar to the Kemetician tree of life which is the Shamanistic tree. You know the matron saint of Hel from my perspective is Hekate the Saint Of Black Magick. Or better known as the left hand path.
I’m sure you must get this a lot already but just in case I’m gonna put it out there! Have you ever considered starting a podcast? Even recording while you film your videos? I would love! to take you on a road trip with me! Js. ☺️
I wish she had a podcast too
Can anybody describe well the experience of a deity encounter? I’ve heard you can experience them just like another human. Details please. Extremely curious…..
Read the bibles.....feel the experience and impact from that....THAT is an example of a type of experience that can be had with deity(s)
When Catholics refer to Mary, are they really talking about and praying to a diety?
My goddess blinks at me , offends me , annoys me sometimes.. but also can make me happy , tells me she have faith in me , seem to want to help me . She told me once 'love is doing not talking!' (in a pissed way lol) .., she stabbed me in the heart literally (in a dream) . I tried to dumb her once ..i remember saying to her in a dream once 'you can't control me!' ...but later she came after few weeks and gave me a mini vision of heaven and she protested when i thought of her to be some evil goddess (demon) , that vision really restored my faith in her ...but this relationship seem bit weird and complicated to me sometimes . I think maybe i am schizophrenic bcoz i did take drugs(sporadically) ...but also i was a monk in the past for long time and she is a goddess from that monk times .., well i am sometimes tired of this relationship ... when i am 'normal' and not on drugs i love and crave solitude and she doesn't fit into my solitary life ( i don't have friends, or any family) but when i take drugs i have like different persona . Oh yea also i wanted to kill myself but she told me not to do it (i tried anyway but failed) , i struggle with anxiety and depression my whole life (mainly coz of people- i am overly sensitive.. i think) ...but i never feel lonely , still i desire to die bcoz i just don't like the nature of this world and there is to many evil people around (imo),..but that goddess is pushing me for this idiot life and that pisses me off , i am in conflict bcoz of her, part of me likes her the other part wished she stop 'disturbing' me and go away .
It’s funny because I’ve recently wanted to make an Eddie Vedder God candle. Normally, I have no problem with pop pantheons but I’m a bit ambivalent because he’s a living person. I’d love to hear others’ thoughts on this.
Ultimately, it’s my relationship to how I feel when I listen to his music and what I think of him as a person. I don’t want to deify him because I don’t really know him, but the image in my mind of what a positive male archetype can be would be somewhat of the personality I have grown to put upon him.
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I think it's fine if someone inspires you. I recently saw some Lana Del Rey devotional candles and thought it was great! X
I’m just curious what you your opinions are, if you have any, on gender parity between a practitioner and the primary Deity they work with... I’ve noticed that typically, at least in what I’ve come across, male identified people tend toward God work and female identified people tend toward Goddess work. I ask because (despite my profile pic) I identify as a male in my day to day life yet I’ve been feeling very drawn toward the Goddess Ceridwen for some time now... I am a drag queen (thus the picture lol) so I do feel a level of gender fluidity in general and she is a Goddess of transformation so for me it does feel like a good fit... Just curious what your philosophy on Gender in Deity work is.
Are we all struggling with this because I've literally been musing about a god for weeks.
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So...if someone had been trying for 6 years to connect to deity and not getting through...what the hell is that about?
Im having some issues surounding finding a deity I just cant conect with eurocentric panthions , and it would be realy inappropriate to look to indigenous australian deity so for now i guss ill just have to let it be , but yeah i can realy feel the jealousy when people are talking about relationship with deity
I 💓 Anne Boleyn. 😋
Mellow your mammories! 😂😂
Do you feel that someone like myself who only sees diety as a symbol and not "real", can still have that close of a relationship with that symbolic diety? btw your hair is getting so long again! your lookin good girl! ♥
omg at the mellow your mamories XD
Kelly,
These people you are talking about should not even be on your channel if they don't have an open mind. I mean really. Ridiculous. Live and let live. I watch you because I believe in you. If I did not believe in you then I would move on to another channel rather than bash you or your beliefs. I do not get them and I never will. I just believe that if you believe or like someone's Chanel, watch it and give positive feedback. If not, move on.