To be fair they had done a really good job with the stop motion animation tests they did complete before pivoting over to CGI. I'm surprised at how good they were even in this pre-production state. I don't think it would have had a huge impact on the relevance of the movie - either it was going to be the absolute pinnacle and the end of an old technology or the beginning of the new technology that it did end up being.
There was still the full size animatronic dinosaurs too that were the pinnacle of that side of it to that point. Jurassic Park would have been a spectacle either way with CG vs Stop motion
I suspect that just adding motion blur(which they apparently did plan to add) would've made the stop motion footage look more natural. But the final scene here isn't all CGI, it's at least in part animatronics / guy in a suit etc(for shots where only some elements are seen, so robotic elements aren't needed) To quote the actor playing the boy: "The raptor came and was chasing me, and they lost control of it and its claw hit me in the head. I was down for the count; I didn't get knocked out, but I fell to the ground. And that's when Steven and the whole crew sang "Happy Birthday" to me, which was a pretty great moment. That was a small not-fun moment within a great day even still, so I would do any one of those days again in a heartbeat." The movie used a variety of techniques, there is more screen time of animatronics than CG.
I think they would have still managed to make an awesome looking movie. However, from a financial standpoint, it would've made way less money than it did. I was a child when this was released and I perfectly remember how much the revolutionary CGI was its biggest selling point (apart from being a dinosaurs movie). They even oversold it, leading people into believe that dinours were recreated with CGI in every single of shot, when in reality in most shots they were either very realistic animatronics or guys in suits (like in half the shots of this scene). The whole advertising of this movie was aimed at making it clear that this was the greatest achievemente in computer generated images, to the point people in the 90s would atuomatically associate CGI with "good" and old school effects, no matter how realistic they were, with "bad" and outdated (again, even if they looked better than CGI most of the time).
There's a couple things I would have changed with the stop motion (the tongue's look too snake-like and the animation of them calling is a little too fast) but their movements are WAY creepier in stop motion than with CGI, especially that one shot of it looking through the door. I'd honestly be really interested in seeing a Jurassic Park remake but all the dinosaurs are stop motion instead of CGI. I know it would never happen but just think of how cool it would look considering how far stop motion technology has come.
The snake tounge is how they are depicted in the Jurrasic park book actually. Though it made more sense in the book due to the slightly biblical themes.
hard agree on the stop motion being creepier. fsr ive always been frightened by most types of stop motion/claymation... probably due to me recognizing it as uncanny valley when i was a kid, but not knowing what that concept was
Stop motion has a certain quality to it but the CGI is clearly superior to it. It’s actually amazing how great the CGI is even to this day for scenes like this.
@@kensuke0I feel like it really depends on the effect you're going for. If it had a bit more of a horror bend to it, then by all means try to use stop motion where you can IMHO.
I think the stop motion was for testing. Even if they had done stop motion for the final version, it would have looked even better and the actors would have been composited in.
No, originally the dinosaurs were supposed to be animatronic and stop motion, but spielberg was shown a CGI test and decided to switch out stop motion for CGI.
The raptors lizard tongues make this even better!!!! They need to release this entire film in stop motion, id actually watch it more than the CGI version
@@rogerhuffmanjr.7695 Yes it is, I remember seeing that in the DVD bonus features. These are the tests carried out by Phil Tippett before the production decided to make the dinosaurs in CGI !
Both look good but If i had to choose. Animation or Original JP would win for me. Phil Tippett has done amazing things but the CGI in Jurassic Park still holds up today it was a amazing film,
The little snake tongue was a nice touch though I miss that, not that many dinosaurs would've done it but technically the Jurassic Park dinosaurs are a chimera of different genes arranged to resemble dinosaurs so it's plausible
Even the final film didn't replace all the shots with CG. That first shot of the raptor looking through the door is a full scale model, same for the close ups on the feet.
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Agreed. Despite their lizard-like tongues, the way the stop motion version move feels quick and bird-like. I like the CGI version too, but the raptors move slower. The stop motion raptor looks like a cat that's about to pounce.
I think Stop motion dinosaurs and monsters work best when the setting of the movie is somewhere in the past, in prehistoric times, or if the story is inspired by mythology, legends or ballads. Take the Voyage of Sinbad or the Clash of Titans for example. The setting is already blurry and fictional in itself, so the oddness of stop motion creatures just adds to the idea of fantasy and myth. For a movie as grounded and with such developed characters as Jurassic Park, stop motion really could not immerse you into the experience of the characters. The setting is too modern, too “realistic” in a way. Jurassic Park took place in 1993, the year audiences went to watch it for the first time. These animals were brought back from the dead through genetic engineering and were kept in enclosures, so the world could admire these dinosaurs like we admire real world animals at the zoo. There was little fantasy or myth or legend in the story of Jurassic Park. The dinosaurs had to look and behave realistically, because everything else about the movie was realistic as well
The paleontological advisor didn't like the idea, so they got rid of it. Believe it or not, they tried very hard to divorce the concept of dinosaurs being just like weird giant lizards from pop culture. They wanted to make the dinosaurs look, move, and even sound very bird-like.
i would have honestly loved if they released a stop motion version of the movie along side the actual movie similar to the Snyder cut with Justice league except actually fucking good
Because CG wasn't used when "raptors" were running in these scenes, just man-in-a-suit (John Rosengrant of SWS). de9o6n2ujz7l.cloudfront.net/cache/35/7e/357e178a044149f45c1775dee5bf01ed.jpg
This VS is BS. Tippets work in that case was a draft and not anything like an end result. It was produced as basis for the CGI efforts after the decision for CGI has been taken.
That's absolutely not true, plenty of great movies after Jurassic Park had ground breaking and jaw dropping effects, ever see Lord of the Rings for example?
@@queencancerous5332 yes, you're right. It's just when you see a lot of movies like Transformers, which have great looking things going on but the physics are completely cartoonish, it kind of takes me out of it. There are still good ones, but a lot are kind of disappointing to me.
To be fair they had done a really good job with the stop motion animation tests they did complete before pivoting over to CGI. I'm surprised at how good they were even in this pre-production state. I don't think it would have had a huge impact on the relevance of the movie - either it was going to be the absolute pinnacle and the end of an old technology or the beginning of the new technology that it did end up being.
There was still the full size animatronic dinosaurs too that were the pinnacle of that side of it to that point.
Jurassic Park would have been a spectacle either way with CG vs Stop motion
I suspect that just adding motion blur(which they apparently did plan to add) would've made the stop motion footage look more natural.
But the final scene here isn't all CGI, it's at least in part animatronics / guy in a suit etc(for shots where only some elements are seen, so robotic elements aren't needed)
To quote the actor playing the boy:
"The raptor came and was chasing me, and they lost control of it and its claw hit me in the head. I was down for the count; I didn't get knocked out, but I fell to the ground. And that's when Steven and the whole crew sang "Happy Birthday" to me, which was a pretty great moment. That was a small not-fun moment within a great day even still, so I would do any one of those days again in a heartbeat."
The movie used a variety of techniques, there is more screen time of animatronics than CG.
I think they would have still managed to make an awesome looking movie. However, from a financial standpoint, it would've made way less money than it did. I was a child when this was released and I perfectly remember how much the revolutionary CGI was its biggest selling point (apart from being a dinosaurs movie). They even oversold it, leading people into believe that dinours were recreated with CGI in every single of shot, when in reality in most shots they were either very realistic animatronics or guys in suits (like in half the shots of this scene). The whole advertising of this movie was aimed at making it clear that this was the greatest achievemente in computer generated images, to the point people in the 90s would atuomatically associate CGI with "good" and old school effects, no matter how realistic they were, with "bad" and outdated (again, even if they looked better than CGI most of the time).
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That’s why the cgi is so amazing- because of Phil Tippet’s moves
There's a couple things I would have changed with the stop motion (the tongue's look too snake-like and the animation of them calling is a little too fast) but their movements are WAY creepier in stop motion than with CGI, especially that one shot of it looking through the door. I'd honestly be really interested in seeing a Jurassic Park remake but all the dinosaurs are stop motion instead of CGI. I know it would never happen but just think of how cool it would look considering how far stop motion technology has come.
A dinosaur consultant for the movie shouted out loud "Who did that?" when he saw their tongues.
The snake tounge is how they are depicted in the Jurrasic park book actually. Though it made more sense in the book due to the slightly biblical themes.
hard agree on the stop motion being creepier. fsr ive always been frightened by most types of stop motion/claymation... probably due to me recognizing it as uncanny valley when i was a kid, but not knowing what that concept was
Stop motion has a certain quality to it but the CGI is clearly superior to it.
It’s actually amazing how great the CGI is even to this day for scenes like this.
@@kensuke0I feel like it really depends on the effect you're going for. If it had a bit more of a horror bend to it, then by all means try to use stop motion where you can IMHO.
Lmao the stop motion figures of Tim and lex looked like they belong in a robot chicken sketch 😂😂😂
Well, this is just an animatic to test the stop motion raptor animation. There'd be no point using realistic, fully articulated human models.
Just place holders for the real actors locations, this is test footage, have to say that’s the best stop motion I’ve ever seen !
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Guys the stop motion was made by phil Tippett. He is just comparing them
I think the stop motion was for testing. Even if they had done stop motion for the final version, it would have looked even better and the actors would have been composited in.
No, originally the dinosaurs were supposed to be animatronic and stop motion, but spielberg was shown a CGI test and decided to switch out stop motion for CGI.
@@skelo9033 yea but this stop motion is clearly not finished
@@Mantis42 This looks like an animatic.
It would have been interesting if there was a Phil Tippet cut
In a sense, there was. He did animate the CGI models with a device that synced a stop mo armature up to the model on the pc.
The animation from 2:12 to 2:24, I think was really smooth and amazing. Well done
Well, it was created by Phil Tippett. That man is a master in the area of go motion.
The raptors lizard tongues make this even better!!!! They need to release this entire film in stop motion, id actually watch it more than the CGI version
I wanna say that the raptors are even described doing that with their tongues in the book
This wasn't the actual stop motion test I think this is someone else's work.
@@rogerhuffmanjr.7695 Yes it is, I remember seeing that in the DVD bonus features. These are the tests carried out by Phil Tippett before the production decided to make the dinosaurs in CGI !
The finished movie still looks amazing due to the great practical effects blending perfectly with the CGI shots.
Both look good but If i had to choose. Animation or Original JP would win for me. Phil Tippett has done amazing things but the CGI in Jurassic Park still holds up today it was a amazing film,
1:52 la idea original se plasmo exactamente en la pelicula , increible !! . realmente un genio phil
The little snake tongue was a nice touch though I miss that, not that many dinosaurs would've done it but technically the Jurassic Park dinosaurs are a chimera of different genes arranged to resemble dinosaurs so it's plausible
0:31 me with food
This is so cool!
Even the final film didn't replace all the shots with CG. That first shot of the raptor looking through the door is a full scale model, same for the close ups on the feet.
There's only 42 seconds of CG amination in here, the rest is puppets or people in suits.
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That Scene at 0:27 kinda looks like they used stop motion, It's got that lower fps that the stop motion has
true but i think they used a person in a raptor suit for that one.
The stop-motion arguably makes the raptors even scarier.
For a screen test this stop motion looks really great. The dinosaurs somehow look more real and scary. Too bad Spielberg wanted them in CGI.
Agreed. Despite their lizard-like tongues, the way the stop motion version move feels quick and bird-like. I like the CGI version too, but the raptors move slower. The stop motion raptor looks like a cat that's about to pounce.
To be fair a lot of the raptors, in including the big one ‘smiling’ are real effects, not cgi.
Actually, the effects for the dinosaurs were made with both animatronics *&* CGI.
@@TheMouseAvenger Exactly. 9 minutes of animatronics, 6 minutes of CGI apparently.
At least some of the kitchen scene was also animatronics.
@@Bagelgeuse that specific shot you're talking about is not CGI.
I think Stop motion dinosaurs and monsters work best when the setting of the movie is somewhere in the past, in prehistoric times, or if the story is inspired by mythology, legends or ballads. Take the Voyage of Sinbad or the Clash of Titans for example. The setting is already blurry and fictional in itself, so the oddness of stop motion creatures just adds to the idea of fantasy and myth. For a movie as grounded and with such developed characters as Jurassic Park, stop motion really could not immerse you into the experience of the characters. The setting is too modern, too “realistic” in a way. Jurassic Park took place in 1993, the year audiences went to watch it for the first time. These animals were brought back from the dead through genetic engineering and were kept in enclosures, so the world could admire these dinosaurs like we admire real world animals at the zoo. There was little fantasy or myth or legend in the story of Jurassic Park. The dinosaurs had to look and behave realistically, because everything else about the movie was realistic as well
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I really think the tongues would've been a nice touch.
The paleontological advisor didn't like the idea, so they got rid of it. Believe it or not, they tried very hard to divorce the concept of dinosaurs being just like weird giant lizards from pop culture. They wanted to make the dinosaurs look, move, and even sound very bird-like.
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Damn the CGI kids look way more realistic than the stop motion one. Unbelievable.
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The stop motion looks more like an actual reptile
This scene scared the living crap out of me
i would have honestly loved if they released a stop motion version of the movie along side the actual movie similar to the Snyder cut with Justice league except actually fucking good
Which is stop motion
Btw it's a joke
I'm not saying the animation is bad though
It's fantastic 😊
They had tongues?! Whoa!!
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Poor Ken.
ironic the stop motion running looks better than the finished product
Because CG wasn't used when "raptors" were running in these scenes, just man-in-a-suit (John Rosengrant of SWS). de9o6n2ujz7l.cloudfront.net/cache/35/7e/357e178a044149f45c1775dee5bf01ed.jpg
This VS is BS. Tippets work in that case was a draft and not anything like an end result. It was produced as basis for the CGI efforts after the decision for CGI has been taken.
After the movie, cgi went to shit, pretty much
That's absolutely not true, plenty of great movies after Jurassic Park had ground breaking and jaw dropping effects, ever see Lord of the Rings for example?
*Ahem* Starship Troopers?
@@ikagura also the Lord of the Rings Trilogy would've been impossible to make without CGI
@@queencancerous5332 yes, you're right. It's just when you see a lot of movies like Transformers, which have great looking things going on but the physics are completely cartoonish, it kind of takes me out of it. There are still good ones, but a lot are kind of disappointing to me.
CGI>>>>>>>>stop motion
the stop motion is so uncanny, if they ever made a jurassic park mini series or something based on the novel, this would be the way to go
Infinitamente mas realistas los de Stop motion. y no los monigotes de CGI