8:14 Wood dissipates heat better than metal!? Pls tell me that was a joke... How about using something that measures CPU temperate like iStats Menu or Intel Power gadget during the testing???.... 🙄 I understand this is not exactly a technical tech channel but come on....
Yeah, it takes an average of at least a few runs for the result to be meaningful along with other technical stuff but that "wood being more helpful in heat dissipation" thing just cracked me up. Who knows, maybe soon desktop pcs will start using wood air coolers and radiators 😂
also, what did she mean by "cooking your laptop" on metal coolers? I mean yeah, the metal cooler heats up, but from heat it takes from laptop, so in result the laptop is cooler
She's wrong and right - metal is used in most heat sinks, but they are tall - look at the CPU on a desktop computer, for example - it's usually about 3-4" tall so it can draw heat *away* from the CPU. In these tests, the metal is thin and the macbook sits directly on it, so the heat transfer is minimal.
@@bazil83 well, here is what I think it going on . So the metal take more heat then wood, but if the laptop already hot then it just transfering heat back and forth. we need to see how warm the room started and also why are they only using cheap knock offs. Also not many CPU and GPU temps only external temp. That doesnt tell the whole story. One thing I think would help is why dont they try it without the fan and see how cool the cooling pad are without a laptop on it? you could say ok if the laptop make 70F air then the laptop is about 121f then well maybe we could get it down to a comfortable temp such as maybe 90-80F
it wont work on the macbook because there is no air in takes on the bottom its just all metal so really the only thing the cooling pads will do is cool of the metal on the bottom and i know they work because my cooling pad cools down my laptop by at least 15c
Sorry but it is a hardware issue. All they did was turn down the voltages on the CPU so it can't reach it full potential. They (apple) is just covering up their mistakes and lying to their costumers. Not hard to dupe people into believing what they say. All they need to do was update the BIOS to run the CPU slower and then write a patch in the OS to fake the actual CPU frequency to make it look like it's running it's advertised speeds. There is no way software can replace a fan and heatsink unless you turn down the CPU or up the fan speed or use a bigger fin stack. Common sense and physics would tell you that.
I’m sorry but you try and put an i9 in a half an inch thick laptop with a proper cooling solution everyone would be pissed if it wasn’t thin so stop getting pissed about everything
henry u show how retarded apple fans are ,the fact the i9 costs more than a i5 going at the same performance at twice the cost ,its just so apple charges iDiots more
1) It looks to me like the bamboo one actually directs the air out the sides of under the laptop while all the others simply throw air straight at it. I think that is the difference. The metal isn't "killing your laptop". The fans aren't heating the metal mesh, the metal mesh draws heat from the bottom of the laptop, then quickly gets saturated and can no longer cool it off more. That's why the metal mesh is warm when you're done. The reason why none of the gamery style coolers did anything is because the Mac doesn't have big cooling vents on the bottom of the laptop. They are designed to throw air into those vents and cool off the internals of the laptop by exhausting wherever they can as fast as it can. (Seams around ports, cracks in the casing, speakers, the 2" hold you drilled next to touch pad to let more air through, etc. You know anywhere air can get out.) So the throwing air at the Mac does nothing because it's designed different. (I.e. prettier and hotter) I've seen other Mac cooling solutions that pull air from the vents at the back of the laptop under where the screen hinges. That's more along the lines of what this would need. Something designed for it. 2) There is No software upgrade that can produce better performance when there is such a terrible hardware issue as the MacBook with the i9. It is straight up an issue of needing more cooling. Period. You Cannot pump more performance out of that chip And keep it cooler with the Same hardware, just by fiddling with the software. (Unless it's Very poorly optimized, which I think we can agree is not the issue with Intel's $$$$ Core i9). Apple seriously flubbed that one. They Very obviously didn't test this device under load AT ALL. Hold Apple to their bullshit please. Sorry for the long rant. Here is Latvian dream. 🥔
Not to throw it all at Apple but Intel knowing how thin Apple makes there laptops should have told them the i9 would be a bad idea unless they were going to beef up the laptop.
My old MacBook Air usually runs loud and hot. One day I remembered I had one of those cooling pads so I tried it and it works. While I don't notice a performance increase, the laptop fans don't kick on so loud and it doesn't get as warm.
Hey Justine!! Great video, but just one little note...if the cooling pad is metal and gets warm, that's actually better than the plastic cooling pads and not worse. Not only is the cooling pad blowing air on the laptop, but it also acts as a heat sink drawing heat away from the frame. It would act just like the heat sink attached to the CPU, but instead cools down the entire computer.
This wasn't a great test since u didn't check to make sure the starting temps of the machine we're the same really should have let the machine idle for a good ten mins between test
I actually had been pondering a purchase prior to watching this, but this video decides it. Far better to use a regular AC-powered 35cm (or wider) fan on fully blast aimed toward the MacBook Pro. Cools you too.
Fun little story time. My husbands grandfather grew up in the Santa Cruz mountains / Ben lomond area, but he had a friend near more of the Mountain View area that he was helping teach how to do wood working. His friend had some extra wood leftover from the project and their neighbor came over one day and asked for suggestions on how to build a box to hold something he was working on. They gave him some extra wood and my grandfather in law actually wound up helping show Steve (pretty sure his friend lived next to Wozniak?) how to build the original wood housing for the Apple I computer. This story blows my mind every time I remember it, and it was such a minor thing but I still think it’s so cool even if Steve never acknowledged his neighbor for his extra wood and help lol
Blue LED: "Oh it's got RGB!" "It's like you're cooking your laptop" ... you're just transferring heat from one object to another, just like what heat sinks do. To "cook your laptop," the metal has to be hotter than the machine, but in this case, the metal isn't generating any heat, it's sucking it out from the laptop and dissipating it (like a heat sink), something that works a lot better than transferring heat onto wood. How much do these guys actually know about computers... or physics for that matter...? Why did they stop measuring the temperature after like the first three tries? Why are they measuring effectiveness of the cooling pads with render time? Do they even know what thermal throttling is?? Thermal throttling is when performance decreases due to overheating, meaning, unless it reaches a certain temperature (say, 97 C as an extreme) it's effects are miniature. Cooling pads will cool your laptop anywhere from around 2 C to 10 C, if rendering never even made the laptop go up to thermal throttling temperatures in the first place, then regardless of whether you cooled 2 C or 10 C wouldn't matter in terms of render time. The difference in render time shown can be better explained by differences in software differences and background tasks than the actual cooling ability of the pads. Instead of concluding whether cooling pads work or not, they should've just concluded whether it helps rendering on a Mac Book that doesn't even have ventilation to its internals on the bottom.
You know what I love the most about Justine? Although she is quite wealthy and can afford all the latest apple products, she is so grateful for them and appreciates every one of them. I love you Justine....fave youtuber ever.
This video has a lot of flaws. First of all, you should have let the laptop cool down to ambient temperature after each test, then verified it with the camera (you might have done it off camera, so not that big of a deal). Second, you should have ran a software similar to AIDA64 for Mac (not a mac guy, so idk what could be used) to check the clock speeds overtime and the amount of thermal throttle, or boosting. Last but not least, the metal that you said was "cooking your laptop" would in fact give it more thermal mass and make it take longer to heat up if it wasn't for the rubber feet on the bottom of the laptop preventing it from making contact... You really should have done more research and gone more in depth with your review, given the influence that you have. No offence, but someone might freak out that they're "cooking their laptop" and throw their cooling pad in the trash, when in reality it was doing no harm.
7:09 *Armando:* "What is the most unique item from Apple that you own?" *Justine:* "It is a 1984 mac, I haven't opened it jet.." *Armando:* "I have a mousepad."
Those things work, because one of the biggest cooling issues with laptops is that after a while hot air concentrates around the machine and is recycled through the intakes. Those blowers move the hot air away from the machine, reducing the intake air temperature.
Covering the bottom of the computer in an insulating layer of 3M vinyl wrap, and then blowing air on the bottom of the computer to cool it is pretty funny.
i dont think a cooling fan will ever increase the actual performance, but it makes me feel alot better knowing that im not having extremely high CPU temperatures constantly when rendering in programs like Maya/playing games using bootcamp
I used to have a cooling pad a few years ago and I definitely hated it. They're so loud and cumbersome if you want to actually carry around your laptop, even inside your house. A stand might be a good idea but I'm not a fan of cooling pads at all. 😉
Yeah, they made sense like 8 years ago, when laptops used to get pretty hot even with not so intensive regular use. But todays laptops run much cooler & there's almost no difference or maybe only a very slight difference when using a cooling pad.
honestly, i see them as more of a keep it on your desk if you game also they make way more sense for most gaming laptops as there are air intakes at the bottom
I think most of the tests could be described as margin of error, not really any significant differences. I suppose it will depend on the laptops cooling design, whether the cool air can get into the case via vents etc. My old laptop was aging, and the fan would get really noisy. I got one of these things very cheap, mostly just to elevate it a little to get the heat off my legs. It definitely helped, the noise was reduced from the fan, so it must have reduced temperatures a little. Sometimes even a couple of degrees will be enough to keep it on a lower RPM fan carve.
And the joke goes right over some heads. Seriously though Premiere is not properly optimized for anything. I have an 8 Core AMD CPU(16t) and when fully rendering a complex video it doesn't even turbo boost to its maximum speed because Premiere doesn't load it down enough. Premiere never makes full use of the hardware I have for it. It only ever loads my GPU to say 60% and about the same on my CPU usually. It has more power at its disposal, it just has no idea how to access it.
No upate did not solved. It is HARDWARE issue. To be precise - insuficient cooling. Update lower max frequency thus providing lower temperatures and that means overall better performance. But no.. it is not solved. This issue with 45 W TDP is common in many MUCH MUCH bigger laptops. So for such small and thin computer was for sure challange.
Here is a hack. Use a hair dryer on the coldest setting and Max fan speed pointed such that the air flows parallel to the touchbar over it. It’s noisy as heck but works like a charm to cut down render times.
Back around 2004 I had a Dell 600m laptop that overheated so bad that the underside of the power button melted so I needed to use a laptop dock to turn it on. It also just overheated all the time in general so I would use a wooden box under the dock and I would put an ice cube tray under the keyboard with a fan blowing from the side, and periodically swap out the ice. It was the only way I could get through summer!
you know Justine, alot of youtubers are talking about it and complaining about it, but thank you, for finding a possible solution which i also thought about the moment D2D brought it up
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There is no vent port underneath the macbook pro, no wonder why it doesn't work, just remove the back panel and I swear the temps by will drop by atleast 20c. Most gaming laptop have such intake, when i put my gaming laptop on my ''cooling pad'' it actually drop the temps of the CPU and GPU by 10c. It mostly benefit the GPU (it turbo boost to higher clock speed than usual), because my *thicc* laptop has sufficient cooling for the CPU so it doesnt throttle from the get go. Apple went for aesthetic over function, once again.
Hello! This test is great but not accurate, I’m not sure if people who use fans with would agree with me but here goes. I’ve been using fans on my Macs for a very long time, gaming as well as video editing. I also use software such as smcFanControl in order to monitor the temperature of my MacBook. So it’s not the speed that concerns me, generally the CPU strength is what handles that. The main concern is the impact high temperatures have on your laptop over a long period of time. Eventually the laptop will crap out or burn out when constantly exposed, and I found that using these fans while increasing the internal fan speed using the software I mentioned earlier tends to increase the lifespan of my laptop along the lines of any regular Mac that doesn’t experience a heavy work load. Hope my two cents helps....still great video and thanks 👍🏼
the cooling method I have for my MBP 2017 is. 1. Get an ice pack 2. Get tinfoil 3.put tin foil on top of ice pack 4.get another piece of tinfoil and put on top of the keyboard "where the fans are located". I just wanted to say that helps A LOT when cooling :)
I have the MacBook 15 inch 2015, and I have a pad that is mostly holes (bassicalls just a stand), it makes a significant difference as it stops the laptop from throttling)
You know... you shouldn't measure Thermals in CPU performance. The only reason thermals would make a difference is that the macbook still thermal throttles a lot.
jokalee well okay the cpu clocks itself a bit higher and doesn't throttle as much but it's not a lot. If they truly affected performance, it wouldn't have taken longer with more cooling. What I'm saying is, that measuring thermals by cpu performance is incredibly unreliable.
You should always measure thermals. If the CPU throttles at factory clocks due to form factor and VRM, of course you measure it. The benchmarks are clear pre and post "patch".
My GF uses a cooling pad, with built in speakers. The speakers rock but the fans sucked, so I changed the fans for static pressure fans. Was much quieter and I think a bit more effective.
i disagree it does not suck, it is a nice laptop. since having my blade 15 i have wanted a macbook more than ever because it really shows you something. specs are not everything.
well there not, in truth you have to take everything into consideration when buying a laptop or anything really. you have to take into consideration what a laptop looks like, is it going to last a long time, are you happy with the operating system and how much power you really need. in short people who buy macs do not buy macs because they are powerful they buy them because they are dam good lookin and a status symbol. let me put it this way, people ie normies dont really care if you can do 100 fps in witcher 3 on max detail they would rather a faily thin fairly light laptop which boots up fast feels fast and has a good display. if you going to say that mac book pros are for professionals who care about that, not many of apples macbook pro customers are "professionals" rather normies with lots of money to spend buy these because it makes them feel good.
My guy THEKILLERKNIGHTS XI its a cool laptop but performance wise sucks pure ass since it overheats 24/7 and I'm not talking only about games but every day work. Plus you cant even call it a laptop since when you put it on ur lap it will kinda hurt because how hot it is like fo real.
I have a Lenovo T460 thinkpad for work (running Linux & Win10 KVMs). I use a great USB cooling pad, but what makes it great is that it has like cooling vanes that the laptop sits on. The fans pull in cool air from the sides and vents it out the rear. The laptop is always cool to the touch!
I can tell you that using one of those stands, flat, while having your laptop in a desk drawer, where you might put your keyboard normally, does help. lol I do this for my dell work laptop, and no I'm not rendering. The exhaust on the laptop lines up perfectly with the cable cutout at the back of the drawer, the laptop stand is just for additional airflow.
Video is very good. Not long ago, I bought a renhotecic brand computer cooling pad, and after using it for a while, the effect felt ok. It is recommended that friends in need can try to prepare one.
I have an old laptop from like 2011 and the fans stopped working so I gets hot, and I tried to make 70 pics into a video and it took 45mins to burn it to a disc. I put it on an art easel with a decent sized fan behind it, and the next one burnt in 11mins, and the rest in 4. So worst case scenario put it on an easel with a fan behind it, trust me, it works
8:14 Wood dissipates heat better than metal!? Pls tell me that was a joke... How about using something that measures CPU temperate like iStats Menu or Intel Power gadget during the testing???.... 🙄 I understand this is not exactly a technical tech channel but come on....
And the marginal difference between the premiere runs is within the margin of error
Yeah, it takes an average of at least a few runs for the result to be meaningful along with other technical stuff but that "wood being more helpful in heat dissipation" thing just cracked me up. Who knows, maybe soon desktop pcs will start using wood air coolers and radiators 😂
also, what did she mean by "cooking your laptop" on metal coolers? I mean yeah, the metal cooler heats up, but from heat it takes from laptop, so in result the laptop is cooler
Agreed pathetic false testing but great vlog
But the "rgb" when the fan is blue
metal should help dissipate heat and justine says its worse because it heats up... it was an entertaining video, but not really a reliable test.
Yay someone who noticed it. Also the run to run variation is probably larger than the difference between the devices.
And she says that bamboo is good but actually it is an insulator which is bad for heat
She's wrong and right - metal is used in most heat sinks, but they are tall - look at the CPU on a desktop computer, for example - it's usually about 3-4" tall so it can draw heat *away* from the CPU. In these tests, the metal is thin and the macbook sits directly on it, so the heat transfer is minimal.
Were you surprised that a bimbo and a simp are unreliable testers?
@@bazil83 well, here is what I think it going on . So the metal take more heat then wood, but if the laptop already hot then it just transfering heat back and forth. we need to see how warm the room started and also why are they only using cheap knock offs. Also not many CPU and GPU temps only external temp. That doesnt tell the whole story. One thing I think would help is why dont they try it without the fan and see how cool the cooling pad are without a laptop on it? you could say ok if the laptop make 70F air then the laptop is about 121f then well maybe we could get it down to a comfortable temp such as maybe 90-80F
This metal is heating up....sorta like transfer of heat to a heatsink am I missing something
Nice vlog, bad review
it wont work on the macbook because there is no air in takes on the bottom its just all metal so really the only thing the cooling pads will do is cool of the metal on the bottom and i know they work because my cooling pad cools down my laptop by at least 15c
gimme him a like cause he's right :)
Even without cooling pad, if the Macbook had ventilation holes on the bottom it would get cooler a lot (I think).
Read my comments before the info in this video test is terrible
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you are very correct sir
Sorry but it is a hardware issue. All they did was turn down the voltages on the CPU so it can't reach it full potential. They (apple) is just covering up their mistakes and lying to their costumers. Not hard to dupe people into believing what they say. All they need to do was update the BIOS to run the CPU slower and then write a patch in the OS to fake the actual CPU frequency to make it look like it's running it's advertised speeds. There is no way software can replace a fan and heatsink unless you turn down the CPU or up the fan speed or use a bigger fin stack. Common sense and physics would tell you that.
you are correct .. they patched osx ... not the firmware they said they did .. if you install windows on it .. the heat issue is still there
yup crapple uses a 19 just to ge ta higher profit margin
I’m sorry but you try and put an i9 in a half an inch thick laptop with a proper cooling solution everyone would be pissed if it wasn’t thin so stop getting pissed about everything
henry u show how retarded apple fans are ,the fact the i9 costs more than a i5 going at the same performance at twice the cost ,its just so apple charges iDiots more
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1) It looks to me like the bamboo one actually directs the air out the sides of under the laptop while all the others simply throw air straight at it. I think that is the difference. The metal isn't "killing your laptop". The fans aren't heating the metal mesh, the metal mesh draws heat from the bottom of the laptop, then quickly gets saturated and can no longer cool it off more. That's why the metal mesh is warm when you're done. The reason why none of the gamery style coolers did anything is because the Mac doesn't have big cooling vents on the bottom of the laptop. They are designed to throw air into those vents and cool off the internals of the laptop by exhausting wherever they can as fast as it can. (Seams around ports, cracks in the casing, speakers, the 2" hold you drilled next to touch pad to let more air through, etc. You know anywhere air can get out.) So the throwing air at the Mac does nothing because it's designed different. (I.e. prettier and hotter) I've seen other Mac cooling solutions that pull air from the vents at the back of the laptop under where the screen hinges. That's more along the lines of what this would need. Something designed for it.
2) There is No software upgrade that can produce better performance when there is such a terrible hardware issue as the MacBook with the i9. It is straight up an issue of needing more cooling. Period. You Cannot pump more performance out of that chip And keep it cooler with the Same hardware, just by fiddling with the software. (Unless it's Very poorly optimized, which I think we can agree is not the issue with Intel's $$$$ Core i9). Apple seriously flubbed that one. They Very obviously didn't test this device under load AT ALL. Hold Apple to their bullshit please.
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Not to throw it all at Apple but Intel knowing how thin Apple makes there laptops should have told them the i9 would be a bad idea unless they were going to beef up the laptop.
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David good one
My old MacBook Air usually runs loud and hot. One day I remembered I had one of those cooling pads so I tried it and it works. While I don't notice a performance increase, the laptop fans don't kick on so loud and it doesn't get as warm.
you just changed the loudness of your MacBook fan to an external fan, like what's the point
Did u let it cool down to ambient in between tests?
does not matter ,laptop coolers dont work never have never will
girlsdrinkfeck the cooler on my MSI Works pretty well keeps the i7 and the 1070 at 60°c at quite high load
Hey Justine!! Great video, but just one little note...if the cooling pad is metal and gets warm, that's actually better than the plastic cooling pads and not worse. Not only is the cooling pad blowing air on the laptop, but it also acts as a heat sink drawing heat away from the frame. It would act just like the heat sink attached to the CPU, but instead cools down the entire computer.
This wasn't a great test since u didn't check to make sure the starting temps of the machine we're the same really should have let the machine idle for a good ten mins between test
I actually had been pondering a purchase prior to watching this, but this video decides it. Far better to use a regular AC-powered 35cm (or wider) fan on fully blast aimed toward the MacBook Pro. Cools you too.
These days M1s are running really cool and they’re such an improvement but for Windows laptops pads are necessary if you’re doing serious work
it makes me laugh when she said that metal is cooking your laptop.
Fun little story time.
My husbands grandfather grew up in the Santa Cruz mountains / Ben lomond area, but he had a friend near more of the Mountain View area that he was helping teach how to do wood working. His friend had some extra wood leftover from the project and their neighbor came over one day and asked for suggestions on how to build a box to hold something he was working on. They gave him some extra wood and my grandfather in law actually wound up helping show Steve (pretty sure his friend lived next to Wozniak?) how to build the original wood housing for the Apple I computer.
This story blows my mind every time I remember it, and it was such a minor thing but I still think it’s so cool even if Steve never acknowledged his neighbor for his extra wood and help lol
7:02 On 3, right?
*Counts down from 3*
The wood is not sucking in any heat 8:12 Wood is a very bad thermal conductor. Ever seen a wooden heatsink?
Blue LED: "Oh it's got RGB!"
"It's like you're cooking your laptop" ... you're just transferring heat from one object to another, just like what heat sinks do. To "cook your laptop," the metal has to be hotter than the machine, but in this case, the metal isn't generating any heat, it's sucking it out from the laptop and dissipating it (like a heat sink), something that works a lot better than transferring heat onto wood.
How much do these guys actually know about computers... or physics for that matter...?
Why did they stop measuring the temperature after like the first three tries? Why are they measuring effectiveness of the cooling pads with render time? Do they even know what thermal throttling is??
Thermal throttling is when performance decreases due to overheating, meaning, unless it reaches a certain temperature (say, 97 C as an extreme) it's effects are miniature. Cooling pads will cool your laptop anywhere from around 2 C to 10 C, if rendering never even made the laptop go up to thermal throttling temperatures in the first place, then regardless of whether you cooled 2 C or 10 C wouldn't matter in terms of render time. The difference in render time shown can be better explained by differences in software differences and background tasks than the actual cooling ability of the pads.
Instead of concluding whether cooling pads work or not, they should've just concluded whether it helps rendering on a Mac Book that doesn't even have ventilation to its internals on the bottom.
You know what I love the most about Justine? Although she is quite wealthy and can afford all the latest apple products, she is so grateful for them and appreciates every one of them. I love you Justine....fave youtuber ever.
This video has a lot of flaws. First of all, you should have let the laptop cool down to ambient temperature after each test, then verified it with the camera (you might have done it off camera, so not that big of a deal). Second, you should have ran a software similar to AIDA64 for Mac (not a mac guy, so idk what could be used) to check the clock speeds overtime and the amount of thermal throttle, or boosting. Last but not least, the metal that you said was "cooking your laptop" would in fact give it more thermal mass and make it take longer to heat up if it wasn't for the rubber feet on the bottom of the laptop preventing it from making contact... You really should have done more research and gone more in depth with your review, given the influence that you have. No offence, but someone might freak out that they're "cooking their laptop" and throw their cooling pad in the trash, when in reality it was doing no harm.
7:09
*Armando:* "What is the most unique item from Apple that you own?"
*Justine:* "It is a 1984 mac, I haven't opened it jet.."
*Armando:* "I have a mousepad."
Fairly sure the "patch" just made the CPU less powerful lol
WOW RGB!!!!!!! na its just a blue LED, facts.
Awesome vid Justine
Those things work, because one of the biggest cooling issues with laptops is that after a while hot air concentrates around the machine and is recycled through the intakes. Those blowers move the hot air away from the machine, reducing the intake air temperature.
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"This is metal, you are cooking your laptop" Uhmm.... Hard to argue with that solid reasoning. I guess that's why radiators get hot, right?
Covering the bottom of the computer in an insulating layer of 3M vinyl wrap, and then blowing air on the bottom of the computer to cool it is pretty funny.
i dont think a cooling fan will ever increase the actual performance, but it makes me feel alot better knowing that im not having extremely high CPU temperatures constantly when rendering in programs like Maya/playing games using bootcamp
I used to have a cooling pad a few years ago and I definitely hated it. They're so loud and cumbersome if you want to actually carry around your laptop, even inside your house. A stand might be a good idea but I'm not a fan of cooling pads at all. 😉
Yeah, they made sense like 8 years ago, when laptops used to get pretty hot even with not so intensive regular use. But todays laptops run much cooler & there's almost no difference or maybe only a very slight difference when using a cooling pad.
honestly, i see them as more of a keep it on your desk if you game
also they make way more sense for most gaming laptops as there are air intakes at the bottom
I think most of the tests could be described as margin of error, not really any significant differences. I suppose it will depend on the laptops cooling design, whether the cool air can get into the case via vents etc.
My old laptop was aging, and the fan would get really noisy. I got one of these things very cheap, mostly just to elevate it a little to get the heat off my legs. It definitely helped, the noise was reduced from the fan, so it must have reduced temperatures a little. Sometimes even a couple of degrees will be enough to keep it on a lower RPM fan carve.
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Premiere Pro isnt optimtized for a PC either. :-D
😂
Accurate.
It is
Yes it is.
And the joke goes right over some heads.
Seriously though Premiere is not properly optimized for anything. I have an 8 Core AMD CPU(16t) and when fully rendering a complex video it doesn't even turbo boost to its maximum speed because Premiere doesn't load it down enough. Premiere never makes full use of the hardware I have for it. It only ever loads my GPU to say 60% and about the same on my CPU usually. It has more power at its disposal, it just has no idea how to access it.
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No upate did not solved. It is HARDWARE issue. To be precise - insuficient cooling. Update lower max frequency thus providing lower temperatures and that means overall better performance. But no.. it is not solved. This issue with 45 W TDP is common in many MUCH MUCH bigger laptops. So for such small and thin computer was for sure challange.
And here we are adding some couple of bucks to make it 1-10 second faster while we can cut $2000+ for 2 time faster with gigabyte aero 15X
People purchase Macs for the OS not specs.
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You will pay $5000 bucks just for the OS?
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''You're cooking your laptop!''
Basic understanding of physics needed here. This is a bad test..
Here is a hack. Use a hair dryer on the coldest setting and Max fan speed pointed such that the air flows parallel to the touchbar over it. It’s noisy as heck but works like a charm to cut down render times.
"On three, are you ready?" "Yeah" "Okay 3 2 1 Go!"
smh
That drove me crazy too lol
Back around 2004 I had a Dell 600m laptop that overheated so bad that the underside of the power button melted so I needed to use a laptop dock to turn it on. It also just overheated all the time in general so I would use a wooden box under the dock and I would put an ice cube tray under the keyboard with a fan blowing from the side, and periodically swap out the ice. It was the only way I could get through summer!
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The Black Macbook looks cool!
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you know Justine, alot of youtubers are talking about it and complaining about it, but thank you, for finding a possible solution which i also thought about the moment D2D brought it up
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~114°F Baseline
~119°F Technet
~119°F Bamboo
~118°F Nobebird
~103°F Fans
~115°F Newbee
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There is no vent port underneath the macbook pro, no wonder why it doesn't work, just remove the back panel and I swear the temps by will drop by atleast 20c. Most gaming laptop have such intake, when i put my gaming laptop on my ''cooling pad'' it actually drop the temps of the CPU and GPU by 10c. It mostly benefit the GPU (it turbo boost to higher clock speed than usual), because my *thicc* laptop has sufficient cooling for the CPU so it doesnt throttle from the get go. Apple went for aesthetic over function, once again.
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I love this videos, thank you Justine! I’m so excited for my new MacBook Pro 15.
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Hello! This test is great but not accurate, I’m not sure if people who use fans with would agree with me but here goes.
I’ve been using fans on my Macs for a very long time, gaming as well as video editing. I also use software such as smcFanControl in order to monitor the temperature of my MacBook.
So it’s not the speed that concerns me, generally the CPU strength is what handles that. The main concern is the impact high temperatures have on your laptop over a long period of time. Eventually the laptop will crap out or burn out when constantly exposed, and I found that using these fans while increasing the internal fan speed using the software I mentioned earlier tends to increase the lifespan of my laptop along the lines of any regular Mac that doesn’t experience a heavy work load. Hope my two cents helps....still great video and thanks 👍🏼
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the cooling method I have for my MBP 2017 is. 1. Get an ice pack 2. Get tinfoil 3.put tin foil on top of ice pack 4.get another piece of tinfoil and put on top of the keyboard "where the fans are located". I just wanted to say that helps A LOT when cooling :)
cooling pads for a product worth 3000+USD??????? If it would be a made in China product I wouldnt say a bad word...... oh, wait! Its made in china :-D
I have the MacBook 15 inch 2015, and I have a pad that is mostly holes (bassicalls just a stand), it makes a significant difference as it stops the laptop from throttling)
You know... you shouldn't measure Thermals in CPU performance. The only reason thermals would make a difference is that the macbook still thermal throttles a lot.
Ahh, thermals directly affect CPU performance unless I missed something.
jokalee well okay the cpu clocks itself a bit higher and doesn't throttle as much but it's not a lot. If they truly affected performance, it wouldn't have taken longer with more cooling. What I'm saying is, that measuring thermals by cpu performance is incredibly unreliable.
You should always measure thermals. If the CPU throttles at factory clocks due to form factor and VRM, of course you measure it. The benchmarks are clear pre and post "patch".
My GF uses a cooling pad, with built in speakers. The speakers rock but the fans sucked, so I changed the fans for static pressure fans. Was much quieter and I think a bit more effective.
This MacBook sucks. It over heat.
andyrockism haha! All macs overheat! 😂
i disagree it does not suck, it is a nice laptop. since having my blade 15 i have wanted a macbook more than ever because it really shows you something. specs are not everything.
THEKILLERKNIGHTS XI it is a nice laptop but what about the "the specs are not everything"? The i9 is useless is the cooling is worse than my switch
well there not, in truth you have to take everything into consideration when buying a laptop or anything really. you have to take into consideration what a laptop looks like, is it going to last a long time, are you happy with the operating system and how much power you really need. in short people who buy macs do not buy macs because they are powerful they buy them because they are dam good lookin and a status symbol. let me put it this way, people ie normies dont really care if you can do 100 fps in witcher 3 on max detail they would rather a faily thin fairly light laptop which boots up fast feels fast and has a good display. if you going to say that mac book pros are for professionals who care about that, not many of apples macbook pro customers are "professionals" rather normies with lots of money to spend buy these because it makes them feel good.
My guy THEKILLERKNIGHTS XI its a cool laptop but performance wise sucks pure ass since it overheats 24/7 and I'm not talking only about games but every day work. Plus you cant even call it a laptop since when you put it on ur lap it will kinda hurt because how hot it is like fo real.
The position of the fan in the bamboo one was why it may have helped
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Really a good comparison and clear idea. Thanks pal!
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I have a Lenovo T460 thinkpad for work (running Linux & Win10 KVMs). I use a great USB cooling pad, but what makes it great is that it has like cooling vanes that the laptop sits on. The fans pull in cool air from the sides and vents it out the rear. The laptop is always cool to the touch!
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I can tell you that using one of those stands, flat, while having your laptop in a desk drawer, where you might put your keyboard normally, does help. lol I do this for my dell work laptop, and no I'm not rendering. The exhaust on the laptop lines up perfectly with the cable cutout at the back of the drawer, the laptop stand is just for additional airflow.
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Video is very good. Not long ago, I bought a renhotecic brand computer cooling pad, and after using it for a while, the effect felt ok. It is recommended that friends in need can try to prepare one.
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I have an old laptop from like 2011 and the fans stopped working so I gets hot, and I tried to make 70 pics into a video and it took 45mins to burn it to a disc. I put it on an art easel with a decent sized fan behind it, and the next one burnt in 11mins, and the rest in 4. So worst case scenario put it on an easel with a fan behind it, trust me, it works
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Did you guys try running the test twice on the same fan? Great video 😊
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