major defect with these sawhorses C550 is that you cannot use any clamp on the sawhorse! only way to clamp anything is to set up 2 sawhorses and connect them with a 2x4 at both ends then clamp trigger bar clamps or anything only to the 2x4. All this fuss only to cut lumber. The underside is completely open to fit the folding legs! Any suggestions appreciated so i can go out and buy 2 of them worlds best designed Sawhorses! .
Clive, that is a great insight! As soon as I read your comment I said, dang, he is right. Then I went into the workshop and set one of my sawhorses up. So with a regular clamp it would be difficult, but I have several Bessie K style clamps that have the parallel jaws and I was able to clamp with much success! In the middle of the sawhorse (where the metal is black) it is thinner, so clamping with too much pressure might cause damage if overdone (the clamp wobbled a little but still held fine), but towards the ends (where the metal is yellow) it is also reinforced and I was able to clamp there with lots of pressure. I case you are not familiar with them I will put a link at the end of this comment. They are pricy, but you'd only need 1 or 2 of the shorter ones (24" is the shortest). If you go to Home Depot you could set up one of the sawhorses in the aisle and try out one of the K style clamp right there in the store to see if you are happy with them. Thanks for watching and commenting. www.homedepot.com/p/BESSEY-24-in-K-Body-REVOlution-KRE-Parallel-Clamp-with-Composite-Plastic-Handle-and-3-3-4-in-Throat-Depth-KRE3524/303953017.
Very simple. Screw a "sacrificial" 2x6 (not 2x4) on top (two pieces as he's done to allow access to the handle) so the extra width of that 2x6 hangs off to one side and clamp to that. I've done this to all four of my C650 sawhorses. Of course, if you set up a table, you have all kinds of places to clamp to.
@@robinstewart6510This is a great idea. While I have never been bothered too much by the difficulty in clamping, if I ever am, this is a great workaround that I will keep in mind.
I bought a pair of the SH60s about 2 weeks ago, and I'm absolutely sold on things. They don't have some of the bells and whistles of the 700s but they have the essentials. I set a pair of 12 ft 2x6s in the troughs to establish the level surface for building my 10ft x 10ft wall panels that are also built out of 2x6 lumber. The 1st panel became the template for subsequent panels. I've had to climb on top of these panels to set the rigging for lifting them with my tractor. They are amazingly stable even under load, and the easiest way to create a level work surface on uneven ground. So thanks for highlighting this product. They are a tremendous asset!👍🤠👍
I love these sawhorses! I made a cutting table top by cutting half lap notches in two 6' 2x4's to create a grid that I use to break down full sheets of 4x8 material. When finished I remove the short notched 2x4's and the 6' 2x4's and put everything away.
Thank you for the video. I only had one that I bought last year, I had some limitations until yesterday that bought a second one. What a difference it makes. Now I can finish my projects. Thank you for everything.
Thank you for this video! As someone who is just getting into work working (Bought a house and wife has a lot of DIY planned) these will be awesome because I’m working out of a small shed and being able to set up a solid “Work Bench” outside of it is really my only option! Can’t wait to pick these up!
@@MadebyWolfe i used them for the first time last week, sanded and painted a shelf board for my wife's office, these are a tad bit over kill for a 3 ft piece of pine, but it beats kneeling on the ground, i'm not real fast at setting them up, i'm not a youngster any more, i have artheritis in my left wrist bad and in a few fingers on both hands, so grip strength isn't what it used to be, plus i'm anal about my stuff, i made sure not to ding or scratch them :), i am an army vet, ex form carpenter and over the road truck driver, so i know that quality tools are not cheap and i was taught early on to respect my tools , anyway, happy new year, sorry to ramble on, i love these saw horses
Nice review. Just picked these up today. Sturdy and a couple pinch points need to be aware of, but liking them so far. I don't need to fold and unfold on a daily basis so for me these are a step up from the light plastic ones I've been using for years. I'm shocked at how expensive the cheap plastic ones have become for a pair so that motivated me to upgrade also. I love that they are adjustable in height and you can quickly build a temporary work surface if needed.
I could see the lower flip-out supports being extremely useful for cutting drywall also. No more bashing knife blades and knuckles on the floor. A little bit of non slip shelf liner or foam or wood would cushion the edge against damage. Great video, thanks for the great info. Definitely on my wishlist!
I am glad you found the review useful. The two flip out supports (top and bottom) do add another level of versatility that otherwise would not be there. The idea for cutting drywall is a good one too. I will often put my drywall directly on some scrap 2x4 when I load it into the workspace in order to save those knuckles. But, of course, I didn't have these sawhorses then. Thanks for watching and thanks for commenting.
Such a great system for to use for cutting sheet materials with a track saw! And very easy to customize to and size you prefer for large or small jobs.
At 3:37 in the video, those flip down supports are perfect for working on door hardware or sanding door edges. I got these sawhorses just in time to finish up a door painting project for the whole house. Glad I did.
Nice review, I actually have a pair of these and use them to support a welding table top as well as a carpentry or worksite table, they're very strong and durable.
They are indeed. I am expecting many good years out of them. I can see them getting set up semi-permanently as a worktable some day soon here. Thanks for watching and commenting.
I have had these for about 4 months with no complaints...except that they are heavy, but, that makes them sturdy. Thanks for watching and thanks for commenting.
Great review and some top tips there. I've just returned from Toolstation(UK) with two C700. I got them on a 20% off deal and found a further promo code for an additional 5% off ....total cost £125 in August 2023 (it's dollar to pound equivalence even though the rate is $1.25 to the £1) . I like the tip for the sacrificial wood blocks for the reasons you mention and it also buys an extra couple of inches in height. I didn't realise it would take 4x4" batons but - living in the UK - you would need a mortgage to buy them nowadays! The quality of wood we get in the UK is really poor. 2"x2" is invariably crackedand shiplap & loglap quality is poor. Your workshop looks fantastic by the way!! I also use the "Keter" worktables (plastic, foldable) and these have been abused but are still brilliant but there is never enough worksurface.
thanks for your thoughtful comments. I do not think a sawhorse is fully functional unless there is a surface you can cut into. But that goes back to my house building days when it was an absolute necessity for quickly cutting plywood. I need to puck up a pair of quick setup, lightweight plastic sawhorses. I miss having them for quick things and small jobs.
Thank you. This was very helpful. I'm considering buying them for cutting up some railway sleepers for my garden. I'm sure I'll reuse them for other projects. Those sleepers are very heavy and cannot be cut by most convention circular saws without turning them upside. Who has the money for a Mafell MKS 130 EC? : )
I think they will handle the sleepers well. However, I know for me I would simply roll the sleepers on the ground and cut the up side. They are heavy and this would mean you would not have to lift them. As for the Mafell, I have not use it, but I have used the Makita 14" circular saw. It is a beast and a bit intimidating even for a seasoned veteran. But, each time I have used it I have wanted to own one just for the fun of it all.
This is actually a great idea! The only thing I'm confused about is how you fix those 4 small pieces of wood on the sawhorse. Because I don't see any special part on the top of my C700. Can you share some info about that?
If I remember right, there were four small holes (two on each side of the handle) in the top sheet metal surface of the sawhorse. If you don't see any holes, I would recommend drilling holes for small screws. I kept the screws short (like 1") so that I do not need to worry about hitting them with a saw blade. The sacrificial surface is a must for me and sawhorses.
There are some nice features on those sawhorse at around $50 a good price too. However, I would find it bothersome to extend the second set of legs. That is why I decided to go with the Bora Speed-Horses at almost twice the price.
Hey Teddy, thanks for your comment on the legs, and I agree. That is my biggest frustration with the sawhorses. I have a contractor friend who owns a set of Bora Speed-Horses. I am hoping to do a comparison of them at some point when I can steal them from him for a day. Thanks for watching and commenting. I am sure you will love your Speed-Horses.
Can you close the second leg half way adjusted instead of adjusting it all the way back down? Or does it have to be adjusted all the way down before closing
Great question and I don't know. I have always been in the habit of closing them all the way down. And, unfortunately I am away from my workspace for an extended period of time and cant check. But the second legs do have to be shorter to fit into the top.
Just got a pair of these. Really like the features, but I have some issues with them. 1) I find that the height adjustment locking levers feel like they're about to bend as you latch them. Even being ever so careful, I could feel one bend slightly the first time it was used. At least they look easy to replace if you can get spare parts. 2) On mine, the side supports for 2x4s or 4x4s require material that is 3-5/8" tall to make it level with the top of the sawhorse. Every 2x4 in my shop is 3-1/2" or smaller, so in 'table mode' the sawhorse stands proud 1/8" above the 2x4s. 3) Looking at the feet and legs from above, all the legs look twisted slightly. Feet and Legs above twist to the left while those below twist to the right. Not sure there's a problem with this, but it is odd. 4) The location of the holes in the top for attaching sacrificial 2x material could have been better thought out. There are a pair of holes a few inches in from either end. These holes would have been better placed further outboard, and they could have added two more pair of holes close to either side of the handle. These sawhorses do seem stable and well build for the most part, but there is room for improvement.
Corwin D, those are all good and valid observations. I hope people find there way to your comment. None of them are game changers for me. If anything their weight is the biggest obstacle for me.
This was his reply above Made by Wolfe 5 months ago They were just some steel pan head screws. I think they were #6 or #8 x 3/4 inch. You should be able to get a pack for a buck or so at the Depot. Make sure they are not stainless. You just want to make sure they are not drywall or decking screws, and the pan head screws work well because they have a flat head instead of a tapered head. Here is a link of they type of screw I am talking about: www.homedepot.com/p/Everbilt-8-x-3-4-in-Zinc-Plated-Phillips-Pan-Head-Sheet-Metal-Screw-100-Pack-801592/204275070#overlay
There are holes already drilled into the top of the sawhorses. Just need to be screwed on. Best to use non-hardened screws so if you hit it with your saw, it will not ruin the teeth on the blade.
ya didn't load them from the side. If you have a big load on the horses and if a sideways load is applied to the load (parallel to the run of the main body) any slop in the mechanism will allow some inertia build and one could easily get a few hundred pounds of side loading. So it's been a year at least have you side loaded 'em yet?
Rual, to be honest, I do not use them all that often. They are heavy and although they are quick to set up, most of what I need sawhorses for, I can use my lighter, shop made A-frame sawhorses. I do use them for heavier loads, but I have not "side-loaded" them. I have seen reviews saying that can be problematic, so your point is well made. Thanks for commenting.
Great video! Thank you! Is this the normal height for a saw horse? Looking at this model or the Bora Speed Horse for my husband's birthday. He's quite tall and has a bad back. Never seen a saw horse before so this was a useful video!
For the most part Sawhorses are roughly the height of a table. But a few inches here and there can make all the difference for someone with a bad back. I am unsure how this compares to others. One option is him to make his own sawhorses, then he could make them any height he wants and make them taller to help his back.
That is a great question. The top surface of the sawhorse actually has pre-drilled holes already in it, so it is as easy lining up the wood and screwing it in place from underneath. Thanks for watching and thanks for commenting.
Great video! I just got home with the C550's from walmart and just realized they only have a height of 28". I'm 6'2 so these C700's with a height of 32 plus the sacrificial surface will be about perfect! Any chance you could link or name the type of unhardened screws you use?
They were just some steel pan head screws. I think they were #6 or #8 x 3/4 inch. You should be able to get a pack for a buck or so at the Depot. Make sure they are not stainless. You just want to make sure they are not drywall or decking screws, and the pan head screws work well because they have a flat head instead of a tapered head. Here is a link of they type of screw I am talking about: www.homedepot.com/p/Everbilt-8-x-3-4-in-Zinc-Plated-Phillips-Pan-Head-Sheet-Metal-Screw-100-Pack-801592/204275070#overlay
I am considering these or the Minotaurs which look very similar. please tell me the maximum and minimum height of the 550s and 700s. Kind regards from GB NATO
Can these be lowered to match the height of their folding workbench? No sense in buying the workbench and a pair of sawhorses if I can get by with just one sawhorse and the table.
The model C700 is no available for the UD market. I've been trying to get one and Lowe's, Home Depot, and Amazon are are all showing no availability. I also had a chat today with Tough Build corporate and all they say is the same thing, that they are not available at the moment. Darn I really wanted one.
There are a couple of holes each side of the handle to attach the sacrificial pieces. Use non hardened screws. They just need to be 1.5 " thick. Length and width do not need to be exact. And...yes, they are $50 each
There are some predrilled holes on the top that you can screw through. Make sure you use non hardened screws (not drywall screws) so that if you hit one with your blade it won't ruin the blade.
I believe these to be the best of this style sawhorse. Unfortunately, the C700 is the only one of this brand that allows for the top board. Also, the C700 is incredibly difficult to find.
That is an excellent question. The top surface of the sawhorse has some holes already drilled into it. Four on each side of the handle. They expect people to put a sacrificial board there. So it was quite easy. Thanks for asking and thanks for watching.
@@philharris7619 The top of the saw horse is 3 inches wide. The piece I put on was 2.5 inches wide. A full 2x4 would have overhung slightly and a 2x2 would have been a little narrow in my thinking. I did screw it on. It is best to use non hardened screws (not drywall or decking screws) just in case you hit it with your saw blade. Hardened screws do a job on carbide tips, as I proved to myself once again the other day. Thanks for watching and commenting.
@@MadebyWolfe thanks, I decided to order a Bora sawhorse, almost same price and is available. I wonder if Toughbuilt ran a foul of some patent issue with their design.
I get it. These are overkill for many situations. I have some shop built that I still pull out for most things. But for heavy or big things, these do the trick. I could definitely live without them if I had to.
Thanks for the video. What size timber did you use for the sacrificial piece on top? I think you said the metal piece raises it by 1.5 inches so I guess it's 2.5 by something? Also what type and thickness would you recommend for the table top?
The sacrificial piece is 1.5" high by 2.5" wide. The top of the sawhorse is 3" wide. There are holes in the top of the sawhorse so that the sacrificial top is able to be screwed on and replaced easily. It is best to use screws that are not hardened, just in case you do hit one with a saw blade. Hope that helps. Let me know if you need more clarification. Thanks for watching.
lateral movement? if youre planing a piece pushing the plainer does sawhorses wobble? bet they do without a cross brace these break down horses will wobble latteraly. no reviews will touch that.
Life is about compromises. I knew that folding for space might likely result in some stability issues. I even saw a review of another sawhorse that caused me some concern before I purchased. So, I actually sat on these at the Home Depot and wiggled around and was satisfied. I have not been concerned during my use of them yet. But, I do agree with your assessment, lateral movement of fold-down sawhorses should be looked at to make sure it will fit your needs.
Lots of fun to watch again. I made the video a couple of months ago and have forgotten that I started it that way. Thanks for watching and thanks for commenting.
I am not in my shop where the sawhorses are, but according to the Home Depot website, the maximum height is 32.09 inches. That seems about right with the 2x4 on top it would bring it up to 33 1/2 inches high. Thanks for watching and commenting.
They are indeed heavy, as I said in the video. I actually have a set of wood sawhorses that fold flat that I pull out just as often for lighter work. Thanks for commenting!
I agree I know exactly which ones you're talking about the DeWalt ones plus they actually stacked together and clipped together so with one handle you can hold both saw horses it's really a pretty cool set.
I was hoping to add some sex appeal so I could get more views on the video. But I guess a fully clothed 50 year old balding male does not necessarily do the job. Probably should have gone with the speedo. JK Laying on them was only to show that they are sturdy. And they really are study sawhorses.
major defect with these sawhorses C550 is that you cannot use any clamp on the sawhorse! only way to clamp anything is to set up 2 sawhorses and connect them with a 2x4 at both ends then clamp trigger bar clamps or anything only to the 2x4. All this fuss only to cut lumber. The underside is completely open to fit the folding legs! Any suggestions appreciated so i can go out and buy 2 of them worlds best designed Sawhorses!
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Clive, that is a great insight! As soon as I read your comment I said, dang, he is right. Then I went into the workshop and set one of my sawhorses up. So with a regular clamp it would be difficult, but I have several Bessie K style clamps that have the parallel jaws and I was able to clamp with much success! In the middle of the sawhorse (where the metal is black) it is thinner, so clamping with too much pressure might cause damage if overdone (the clamp wobbled a little but still held fine), but towards the ends (where the metal is yellow) it is also reinforced and I was able to clamp there with lots of pressure. I case you are not familiar with them I will put a link at the end of this comment. They are pricy, but you'd only need 1 or 2 of the shorter ones (24" is the shortest). If you go to Home Depot you could set up one of the sawhorses in the aisle and try out one of the K style clamp right there in the store to see if you are happy with them.
Thanks for watching and commenting.
www.homedepot.com/p/BESSEY-24-in-K-Body-REVOlution-KRE-Parallel-Clamp-with-Composite-Plastic-Handle-and-3-3-4-in-Throat-Depth-KRE3524/303953017.
Very simple. Screw a "sacrificial" 2x6 (not 2x4) on top (two pieces as he's done to allow access to the handle) so the extra width of that 2x6 hangs off to one side and clamp to that. I've done this to all four of my C650 sawhorses. Of course, if you set up a table, you have all kinds of places to clamp to.
@@robinstewart6510This is a great idea. While I have never been bothered too much by the difficulty in clamping, if I ever am, this is a great workaround that I will keep in mind.
Is the sacrificial 2x4 screwed in from the bottom?
@@marcstewart5531 Same question from me...
I bought a pair of the SH60s about 2 weeks ago, and I'm absolutely sold on things. They don't have some of the bells and whistles of the 700s but they have the essentials. I set a pair of 12 ft 2x6s in the troughs to establish the level surface for building my 10ft x 10ft wall panels that are also built out of 2x6 lumber. The 1st panel became the template for subsequent panels. I've had to climb on top of these panels to set the rigging for lifting them with my tractor. They are amazingly stable even under load, and the easiest way to create a level work surface on uneven ground. So thanks for highlighting this product. They are a tremendous asset!👍🤠👍
I love these sawhorses! I made a cutting table top by cutting half lap notches in two 6' 2x4's to create a grid that I use to break down full sheets of 4x8 material. When finished I remove the short notched 2x4's and the 6' 2x4's and put everything away.
I had two pairs of old beat-to-death Stanley’s that became a hazard, so I saved up to buy the 700’s. Simply one of the best purchases I’ve ever made.
Thank you for the video. I only had one that I bought last year, I had some limitations until yesterday that bought a second one. What a difference it makes. Now I can finish my projects. Thank you for everything.
Thank you for this video! As someone who is just getting into work working (Bought a house and wife has a lot of DIY planned) these will be awesome because I’m working out of a small shed and being able to set up a solid “Work Bench” outside of it is really my only option! Can’t wait to pick these up!
my wife just ordered me a set for christmas,, have them in just over a week,,,, really cool, great video by the way
Thanks
@@MadebyWolfe i used them for the first time last week, sanded and painted a shelf board for my wife's office, these are a tad bit over kill for a 3 ft piece of pine, but it beats kneeling on the ground, i'm not real fast at setting them up, i'm not a youngster any more, i have artheritis in my left wrist bad and in a few fingers on both hands, so grip strength isn't what it used to be, plus i'm anal about my stuff, i made sure not to ding or scratch them :), i am an army vet, ex form carpenter and over the road truck driver, so i know that quality tools are not cheap and i was taught early on to respect my tools , anyway, happy new year, sorry to ramble on, i love these saw horses
Nice review. Just picked these up today. Sturdy and a couple pinch points need to be aware of, but liking them so far. I don't need to fold and unfold on a daily basis so for me these are a step up from the light plastic ones I've been using for years. I'm shocked at how expensive the cheap plastic ones have become for a pair so that motivated me to upgrade also. I love that they are adjustable in height and you can quickly build a temporary work surface if needed.
Great job reviewing these
I could see the lower flip-out supports being extremely useful for cutting drywall also. No more bashing knife blades and knuckles on the floor. A little bit of non slip shelf liner or foam or wood would cushion the edge against damage.
Great video, thanks for the great info. Definitely on my wishlist!
I am glad you found the review useful. The two flip out supports (top and bottom) do add another level of versatility that otherwise would not be there. The idea for cutting drywall is a good one too. I will often put my drywall directly on some scrap 2x4 when I load it into the workspace in order to save those knuckles. But, of course, I didn't have these sawhorses then. Thanks for watching and thanks for commenting.
Thanks for the thorough review. I had already ordered a set. But you displayed additional features that I didn't know it had.
Very nice review. I am glad I saw this video. Will definitely grab a pair.
Such a great system for to use for cutting sheet materials with a track saw! And very easy to customize to and size you prefer for large or small jobs.
They are very versatile.
At 3:37 in the video, those flip down supports are perfect for working on door hardware or sanding door edges. I got these sawhorses just in time to finish up a door painting project for the whole house. Glad I did.
Sold! Great video and thank you! I've been working on a design for my jobsite work bench and these saw horses are perfect!
Jus bought mine 2 hrs ago I'm a mechanic by trade
So this should cover all my DYI lil projects. Great video
I am glad the video was helpful. Enjoy. Thanks for watching and commenting.
Nice review, I actually have a pair of these and use them to support a welding table top as well as a carpentry or worksite table, they're very strong and durable.
They are indeed. I am expecting many good years out of them. I can see them getting set up semi-permanently as a worktable some day soon here. Thanks for watching and commenting.
That's really good to know as I'm a metal worker and was looking for tips reason:)
They are heavy and clumsy for moving in small areas, but they are great for holding heavy loads, and making solid work tables!
I am a tightwad. But these are worth every penny ! great video.
I too am a tightwad...except when I am not. LOL. thanks for sharing.
These were on sale at Princes Auto last month, unfortunately I miss it, thx for making this video
you are welcome
I use mine all of the time. Highly recommended.
Yes indeed. How long have you had yours? Have you seen wear that concerns you?
Excellent video
Thanks.
Great video. I have a pair of these and they are beasts.
Great review. Just got these for a photo studio setup and that 'sacrifice' idea is perfect.
I am glad it was helpful. Enjoy your new sawhorses! And thanks for watching and commenting.
Going to pick up a pair today. I’m wanting to use these to make a large job site miter stand for building my deck.
Thank you
I’ve had a set for a couple years. It’s a great product!!
I have had these for about 4 months with no complaints...except that they are heavy, but, that makes them sturdy. Thanks for watching and thanks for commenting.
Ah the old workshite job table 😂 In all seriousness really great review. Thank you!
Great review and some top tips there. I've just returned from Toolstation(UK) with two C700. I got them on a 20% off deal and found a further promo code for an additional 5% off ....total cost £125 in August 2023 (it's dollar to pound equivalence even though the rate is $1.25 to the £1) . I like the tip for the sacrificial wood blocks for the reasons you mention and it also buys an extra couple of inches in height. I didn't realise it would take 4x4" batons but - living in the UK - you would need a mortgage to buy them nowadays! The quality of wood we get in the UK is really poor. 2"x2" is invariably crackedand shiplap & loglap quality is poor.
Your workshop looks fantastic by the way!!
I also use the "Keter" worktables (plastic, foldable) and these have been abused but are still brilliant but there is never enough worksurface.
thanks for your thoughtful comments. I do not think a sawhorse is fully functional unless there is a surface you can cut into. But that goes back to my house building days when it was an absolute necessity for quickly cutting plywood. I need to puck up a pair of quick setup, lightweight plastic sawhorses. I miss having them for quick things and small jobs.
Thank you. This was very helpful. I'm considering buying them for cutting up some railway sleepers for my garden. I'm sure I'll reuse them for other projects. Those sleepers are very heavy and cannot be cut by most convention circular saws without turning them upside. Who has the money for a Mafell MKS 130 EC? : )
I think they will handle the sleepers well. However, I know for me I would simply roll the sleepers on the ground and cut the up side. They are heavy and this would mean you would not have to lift them.
As for the Mafell, I have not use it, but I have used the Makita 14" circular saw. It is a beast and a bit intimidating even for a seasoned veteran. But, each time I have used it I have wanted to own one just for the fun of it all.
This is actually a great idea! The only thing I'm confused about is how you fix those 4 small pieces of wood on the sawhorse. Because I don't see any special part on the top of my C700. Can you share some info about that?
If I remember right, there were four small holes (two on each side of the handle) in the top sheet metal surface of the sawhorse. If you don't see any holes, I would recommend drilling holes for small screws. I kept the screws short (like 1") so that I do not need to worry about hitting them with a saw blade. The sacrificial surface is a must for me and sawhorses.
There are some nice features on those sawhorse at around $50 a good price too. However, I would find it bothersome to extend the second set of legs. That is why I decided to go with the Bora Speed-Horses at almost twice the price.
Hey Teddy, thanks for your comment on the legs, and I agree. That is my biggest frustration with the sawhorses. I have a contractor friend who owns a set of Bora Speed-Horses. I am hoping to do a comparison of them at some point when I can steal them from him for a day. Thanks for watching and commenting. I am sure you will love your Speed-Horses.
they look super useful!
They are a few steps up from some of the old timber ones that I have used. And folding up is a real treat for portability.
Can you close the second leg half way adjusted instead of adjusting it all the way back down? Or does it have to be adjusted all the way down before closing
Great question and I don't know. I have always been in the habit of closing them all the way down. And, unfortunately I am away from my workspace for an extended period of time and cant check. But the second legs do have to be shorter to fit into the top.
Just got a pair of these. Really like the features, but I have some issues with them. 1) I find that the height adjustment locking levers feel like they're about to bend as you latch them. Even being ever so careful, I could feel one bend slightly the first time it was used. At least they look easy to replace if you can get spare parts. 2) On mine, the side supports for 2x4s or 4x4s require material that is 3-5/8" tall to make it level with the top of the sawhorse. Every 2x4 in my shop is 3-1/2" or smaller, so in 'table mode' the sawhorse stands proud 1/8" above the 2x4s. 3) Looking at the feet and legs from above, all the legs look twisted slightly. Feet and Legs above twist to the left while those below twist to the right. Not sure there's a problem with this, but it is odd. 4) The location of the holes in the top for attaching sacrificial 2x material could have been better thought out. There are a pair of holes a few inches in from either end. These holes would have been better placed further outboard, and they could have added two more pair of holes close to either side of the handle. These sawhorses do seem stable and well build for the most part, but there is room for improvement.
Corwin D, those are all good and valid observations. I hope people find there way to your comment. None of them are game changers for me. If anything their weight is the biggest obstacle for me.
@@MadebyWolfe I agree. Wish they were slightly lighter but they are very sturdy
Thanks - how did you secure the wood on top?
What did you use to attach the sacrificial 2x4 to the top of the saw horse
This was his reply above
Made by Wolfe
5 months ago
They were just some steel pan head screws. I think they were #6 or #8 x 3/4 inch. You should be able to get a pack for a buck or so at the Depot. Make sure they are not stainless. You just want to make sure they are not drywall or decking screws, and the pan head screws work well because they have a flat head instead of a tapered head. Here is a link of they type of screw I am talking about: www.homedepot.com/p/Everbilt-8-x-3-4-in-Zinc-Plated-Phillips-Pan-Head-Sheet-Metal-Screw-100-Pack-801592/204275070#overlay
Good job
What did you do to securely attach the “sacrificial lumber” to the saw horse?
There are holes already drilled into the top of the sawhorses. Just need to be screwed on. Best to use non-hardened screws so if you hit it with your saw, it will not ruin the teeth on the blade.
Thanks a lot. Just bought these
I am glad it was helpful for you to make the decision. Enjoy! Thanks for watching and thanks for commenting.
Great video! Thanks for the teach
You bet. Thanks for watching and commenting.
Thank you. Useful info
Good Info, you sold me!
Glad it was helpful!
ya didn't load them from the side. If you have a big load on the horses and if a sideways load is applied to the load (parallel to the run of the main body) any slop in the mechanism will allow some inertia build and one could easily get a few hundred pounds of side loading. So it's been a year at least have you side loaded 'em yet?
Rual, to be honest, I do not use them all that often. They are heavy and although they are quick to set up, most of what I need sawhorses for, I can use my lighter, shop made A-frame sawhorses. I do use them for heavier loads, but I have not "side-loaded" them. I have seen reviews saying that can be problematic, so your point is well made. Thanks for commenting.
Great video! Thank you! Is this the normal height for a saw horse? Looking at this model or the Bora Speed Horse for my husband's birthday. He's quite tall and has a bad back. Never seen a saw horse before so this was a useful video!
For the most part Sawhorses are roughly the height of a table. But a few inches here and there can make all the difference for someone with a bad back. I am unsure how this compares to others. One option is him to make his own sawhorses, then he could make them any height he wants and make them taller to help his back.
You sold me on the C700 mind sharing the lfull umber dimensions & plywood dimensions. I want that jobsite table for my garage.
How did you fix the 2x4 on top of the sawhorse? Did you drill them on?
€80 each in ireland so €160 a pair
That is a great question. The top surface of the sawhorse actually has pre-drilled holes already in it, so it is as easy lining up the wood and screwing it in place from underneath. Thanks for watching and thanks for commenting.
Great video! I just got home with the C550's from walmart and just realized they only have a height of 28". I'm 6'2 so these C700's with a height of 32 plus the sacrificial surface will be about perfect! Any chance you could link or name the type of unhardened screws you use?
*I meant Home Depot not walmart
They were just some steel pan head screws. I think they were #6 or #8 x 3/4 inch. You should be able to get a pack for a buck or so at the Depot. Make sure they are not stainless. You just want to make sure they are not drywall or decking screws, and the pan head screws work well because they have a flat head instead of a tapered head. Here is a link of they type of screw I am talking about: www.homedepot.com/p/Everbilt-8-x-3-4-in-Zinc-Plated-Phillips-Pan-Head-Sheet-Metal-Screw-100-Pack-801592/204275070#overlay
I am considering these or the Minotaurs which look very similar. please tell me the maximum and minimum height of the 550s and 700s. Kind regards from GB NATO
@@borisgulliver4970 I'm sorry I don't have them anymore. One of them had a malfunction with the opening system so I took them back within days
Can these be lowered to match the height of their folding workbench? No sense in buying the workbench and a pair of sawhorses if I can get by with just one sawhorse and the table.
I am unfamiliar with their folding workbench so I cannot answer.
The model C700 is no available for the UD market. I've been trying to get one and Lowe's, Home Depot, and Amazon are are all showing no availability. I also had a chat today with Tough Build corporate and all they say is the same thing, that they are not available at the moment. Darn I really wanted one.
Oops, US market and they are not available.
Great review
Thanks and thanks for watching.
Would have liked to see how you got the sacrificial peice in there and what size it is. Also , whe u say $50 a peice , do u mean apeice or pair
There are a couple of holes each side of the handle to attach the sacrificial pieces. Use non hardened screws. They just need to be 1.5 " thick. Length and width do not need to be exact. And...yes, they are $50 each
Thanks!
You are welcome and thanks for watching.
Did you screw the sacrificial board on the top?
Yes. There are already a few holes in the top of the sawhorse that allows you to attach a piece of wood with a screw from underneath.
How do you attach the sacrificial piece of lumber that is attached to the top?
There are some predrilled holes on the top that you can screw through. Make sure you use non hardened screws (not drywall screws) so that if you hit one with your blade it won't ruin the blade.
That’s a nice work garage
I am a lucky man who has been worked hard. Always feel blessed when I am at my shop.
👍👍👍👍👍
I believe these to be the best of this style sawhorse. Unfortunately, the C700 is the only one of this brand that allows for the top board. Also, the C700 is incredibly difficult to find.
Hi thanks for the review, can I ask, how did you attach the sacrificial wood to the top of each sawhorse .... is it glued or otherwise? Thanks
That is an excellent question. The top surface of the sawhorse has some holes already drilled into it. Four on each side of the handle. They expect people to put a sacrificial board there. So it was quite easy. Thanks for asking and thanks for watching.
Was the sacrificial surface 2x2 and I presume it was secured by screws ?
@@philharris7619 The top of the saw horse is 3 inches wide. The piece I put on was 2.5 inches wide. A full 2x4 would have overhung slightly and a 2x2 would have been a little narrow in my thinking. I did screw it on. It is best to use non hardened screws (not drywall or decking screws) just in case you hit it with your saw blade. Hardened screws do a job on carbide tips, as I proved to myself once again the other day. Thanks for watching and commenting.
@@MadebyWolfe thank you for the reply, I've ordered two after seeing your video, and your advise on the sacrificial top will be one that I follow
@@philharris7619 Great...enjoy the sawhorses
Are you in Canada??
Close, but no. I am in upstate New York
@@MadebyWolfe thanks, I decided to order a Bora sawhorse, almost same price and is available. I wonder if Toughbuilt ran a foul of some patent issue with their design.
My craftsman sawhorses are great
I get it. These are overkill for many situations. I have some shop built that I still pull out for most things. But for heavy or big things, these do the trick. I could definitely live without them if I had to.
Thanks for the video. What size timber did you use for the sacrificial piece on top? I think you said the metal piece raises it by 1.5 inches so I guess it's 2.5 by something?
Also what type and thickness would you recommend for the table top?
The sacrificial piece is 1.5" high by 2.5" wide. The top of the sawhorse is 3" wide. There are holes in the top of the sawhorse so that the sacrificial top is able to be screwed on and replaced easily. It is best to use screws that are not hardened, just in case you do hit one with a saw blade. Hope that helps. Let me know if you need more clarification. Thanks for watching.
As noted by @Robin Stewart, it's a great idea to use a 2x6 instead of a 2x4 so you have some extra width to CLAMP to.
This is not available anywhere in Chicagoland area !
lateral movement? if youre planing a piece pushing the plainer does sawhorses wobble? bet they do without a cross brace these break down horses will wobble latteraly. no reviews will touch that.
Life is about compromises. I knew that folding for space might likely result in some stability issues. I even saw a review of another sawhorse that caused me some concern before I purchased. So, I actually sat on these at the Home Depot and wiggled around and was satisfied. I have not been concerned during my use of them yet. But, I do agree with your assessment, lateral movement of fold-down sawhorses should be looked at to make sure it will fit your needs.
very good presentation but noise is terrible
Great intro haha
Lots of fun to watch again. I made the video a couple of months ago and have forgotten that I started it that way. Thanks for watching and thanks for commenting.
What is the maximum height?
I am not in my shop where the sawhorses are, but according to the Home Depot website, the maximum height is 32.09 inches. That seems about right with the 2x4 on top it would bring it up to 33 1/2 inches high. Thanks for watching and commenting.
@@MadebyWolfe thankyou
Thankyou
I think these are nice, but I prefer the simpler and LIGHTER dewalt stackable set. These are just too clunky for me, too much steel and moving parts.
They are indeed heavy, as I said in the video. I actually have a set of wood sawhorses that fold flat that I pull out just as often for lighter work. Thanks for commenting!
I agree I know exactly which ones you're talking about the DeWalt ones plus they actually stacked together and clipped together so with one handle you can hold both saw horses it's really a pretty cool set.
50 a piece.. they're 100 euros or more a piece in Europe now.
Too bad the legs are not longer, then it could be used as a extension table for a table sawfor cuttin full sheets
What the hell does laying on them prove?
I was hoping to add some sex appeal so I could get more views on the video. But I guess a fully clothed 50 year old balding male does not necessarily do the job. Probably should have gone with the speedo.
JK
Laying on them was only to show that they are sturdy. And they really are study sawhorses.
I THINK YOU GOT THESE AT LOWES
Yes indeed.
Flys undone🤧
You really need to tidy up your workspace. I can see three specs of dirt in your workshop. Come on now!
They look too heavy!
Great review
Great review.
Thanks!