To go forward, you must go back. I'm going to be 35 this year and to celebrate that landmark (and to somewhat reinvent myself - again!) I'm giving myself the classical education that I never had. I've only read a few books so far, but I'm completely absorbed already.
this brings to mind the Great Books program at Kansas U in the 70s and 80s, the founders of it (not all Catholics) got accused of proselytism because so many kids were converting to Catholicism, and the secular profs got it shut down
Mrs. Coronado is a great teacher. My daughter is in her class. I am thankful to her for her intervention with my child. Good luck to Debbie Rocha and all of the other students taking the test.
I see at the roots of the tree (near the end) the names of the great teachers in our past. I am saddened that Jesus Christ and other significant individuals in the Bible are excluded. The great teachers shown gathered much of their wisdom from the Bible.
A Christian Classical education is also a real option and also whole other animal, completely centering around the Bible in everything taught and including not only the study of Latin in Grammar school but sometimes also Koine Greek and Biblical Hebrew for exegetical study of the Bible. Check it out!
As a big fan of classical education myself, I find it troubling this video and many others ignore the absolute fact that not every child is going to be successful in classical education environments and there is a reason the stats are so inflated for classical education schools vs public schools. Modern liberal arts primary and secondary schools are attended by a biased sample of students as the schools both get to select their students and the kinds of students who would even apply/pay do not reflect the population of public schools. In plain terms: Sample bias is a problem when comparing classical schools to public schools. Public schools MUST educate ALL students in the community to a basic level to be functional workers in society, a purely classical education school district would quickly be sued and found unconstitutional because it deprives some subset of the population (in some districts, perhaps even most students) of a useful education. A school of classical education has a place in every community, but lets not pretend it will ever be, or should be, the norm.
Who are the funders and benefactors of such an educational systems in a 21st century context I wonder? And how do the beneficiaries who have mindsets irrevocably molded and shaped by such an educational process aim to be accommodated or applied by the rest of society into the future. Be it by the body politic, banking coalitions or sci-tech industrial bases? Drawing such candidates out as demographics and psycho graphics to serve what ultimate function I wonder,? The waist line that first feels the pinch when it's time for belt tightening measures? I promote a Classical Greco/Roman Education, as much as I would support a Classical Confucian education, or a Hindu based one, or a Scandinavian one for that matter, but only in the context of a 21st/22nd century scientific world, where equal representation and opportunity exists for all, regardless of language, ethnicity or culture. So that the humanities can continue to serve as a vital off-setting force to sciences and engineering. In which more and more resources are being pumped in and out of. But for this to truly take place, surely the measure can no longer strictly be monetary or economic
mwall444 As a christian it is wise to see the er of the athiest in all its forms. Nietzsche's philosophy opened my eyes on how the athiest thinks at an intelectual level and has helped tremendously in my christian appologetics.
Now that Trump is president, or will be soon, we should see the education system handled at the state level and hopefully rethink the impact that common core has had on our youth. Although I believe this should be handled on the county level, I see things moving in the right direction. I most certainly advocate that a clasical education be administered in all public education facilities here in Florida.
@@arikking5893 That is debatable. Though pleasure seeking seems to be a natural human inclination, we ought not be consumed as we have by it; in doing so, we cause future generations greater suffering, as non before have prepared themselves for the difficulties that life presents and thus dooms the rise of weak men. Stoicism is more preferable I would say in that regard, as it prepares one for these events and creates strong minded individuals capable of enduring and appreciating life as it comes rather than seeking a life of total bliss or ignorance (which I would argue is necessary for maximizing pleasure, but is very much a dangerous endeavor).
+Keegan Rice Expected educational establishment response. Proclamations with no facts, evidence or sound argumentation. This is exactly why we need classical education in America.
Ha! The only female in this video, besides children who are in the same photograph, is a teacher in a classroom from what looks like the 1950's. Every role model from the beginning to the end is a male. Every speaker is a male. Fortunately, I have learned to dissect one of the worst flaws in classical education. You've got a problem and its a big problem! This video highlights it very clearly.
You do realize we're talking about a system whose foundation predates the Woman's Rights movement by several millennia, right? We're also talking about the same system which carried Western civilization from antiquity into modernity (with the lot of women and humanity in general progressively improving, I would add). You haven't dissected anything - you've pointed out an absence of women in a twelve minute video comprised of largely text-based images, and from this inferred a pervasive sexist conspiracy (in spite of glaringly obvious reasons for a diminutive female influence on the classical model of education). The only thing you've successfully done is, reveal your own bias and the complete corruption it has wrought on your objective reasoning.
@Straight White Male What's interesting for me is that I am a woman and I agree with aservantofelohim, at the same time I feel it is a strength that I feel so much, as women do. It seems that I am not like most women in that they seem to be manipulated by their feelings, and weaponized against their own society. I think there is even something in the bible where "gullible women" are used by their enemy. Such weakness isn't necessarily normal, although now it is very widespread. Perhaps women have been taught to hate their own softness, perhaps in their own experience they were not appreciated for their softness. It's hard for each of us to respect the qualities of the opposite sex, when the qualities of our own sex and therefore makeup are not respected and appreciated by the opposite sex. I love men for their strength and their hardness. I love their clarity when I can't see readily that my emotions are being manipulated. I find that as the men in my life know and see my respect for their gifts, they regard the gifts of my womanness, like softness and feelings, as worthy influencers on their opinions and actions. It's rather dangerous that this equilibrium isn't out in society at large- both sexes have the power to destroy the other...and therefore our society as we know it.
@Straight White Male Actually, I find it to be more of a rejection of male nature, or an invalidation of it's value. That is the narrative being pushed and foolish women are running with it, not understanding that we need one another to have a balanced vision.
Now that Trump is president, or will be soon, we should see the education system handled at the state level and hopefully rethink the impact that common core has had on our youth. Although I believe this should be handled on the county level, I see things moving in the right direction. I most certainly advocate that a clasical education be administered in all public education facilities here in Florida.
God help us all if the federal government gives the power of education to the states. As a Texan, I shudder to think of the way the public school system would change for the worse if this state could determine what it wanted to teach and how. Besides that, Texas prints the majority of the nation's textbooks and allowing them free reign over that, alone, would ruin the educations of millions of American schoolchildren.
To go forward, you must go back. I'm going to be 35 this year and to celebrate that landmark (and to somewhat reinvent myself - again!) I'm giving myself the classical education that I never had. I've only read a few books so far, but I'm completely absorbed already.
this brings to mind the Great Books program at Kansas U in the 70s and 80s, the founders of it (not all Catholics) got accused of proselytism because so many kids were converting to Catholicism, and the secular profs got it shut down
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John Senior program, right? It was a sad thing they shut down his program.
Who got sent from r/classicaleducation like me?
I go to the school what grade are you going into?
Mrs. Coronado is a great teacher. My daughter is in her class. I am thankful to her for her intervention with my child. Good luck to Debbie Rocha and all of the other students taking the test.
Great video!
I go to this school and love it
Doesn't the trivium and the quadrivium compose the liberal arts?
I see at the roots of the tree (near the end) the names of the great teachers in our past. I am saddened that Jesus Christ and other significant individuals in the Bible are excluded. The great teachers shown gathered much of their wisdom from the Bible.
A Christian Classical education is also a real option and also whole other animal, completely centering around the Bible in everything taught and including not only the study of Latin in Grammar school but sometimes also Koine Greek and Biblical Hebrew for exegetical study of the Bible. Check it out!
Lol Capella looks like he just saw something he should not see
As a big fan of classical education myself, I find it troubling this video and many others ignore the absolute fact that not every child is going to be successful in classical education environments and there is a reason the stats are so inflated for classical education schools vs public schools. Modern liberal arts primary and secondary schools are attended by a biased sample of students as the schools both get to select their students and the kinds of students who would even apply/pay do not reflect the population of public schools. In plain terms: Sample bias is a problem when comparing classical schools to public schools.
Public schools MUST educate ALL students in the community to a basic level to be functional workers in society, a purely classical education school district would quickly be sued and found unconstitutional because it deprives some subset of the population (in some districts, perhaps even most students) of a useful education. A school of classical education has a place in every community, but lets not pretend it will ever be, or should be, the norm.
Hello i go to this school!😁 i suggest to go to this school it is soon gunna be my sixth year at this school
Cassiodorus wasn't a senator, that was just part of his name.
most schools suck now
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Who are the funders and benefactors of such an educational systems in a 21st century context I wonder? And how do the beneficiaries who have mindsets irrevocably molded and shaped by such an educational process aim to be accommodated or applied by the rest of society into the future. Be it by the body politic, banking coalitions or sci-tech industrial bases?
Drawing such candidates out as demographics and psycho graphics to serve what ultimate function I wonder,? The waist line that first feels the pinch when it's time for belt tightening measures? I promote a Classical Greco/Roman Education, as much as I would support a Classical Confucian education, or a Hindu based one, or a Scandinavian one for that matter, but only in the context of a 21st/22nd century scientific world, where equal representation and opportunity exists for all, regardless of language, ethnicity or culture.
So that the humanities can continue to serve as a vital off-setting force to sciences and engineering. In which more and more resources are being pumped in and out of. But for this to truly take place, surely the measure can no longer strictly be monetary or economic
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How does Nietzsche, the poster-child for post-modernism, wheedle into the hallowed roots of Classical exemplars? I think that was a big oversight.
mwall444
As a christian it is wise to see the er of the athiest in all its forms. Nietzsche's philosophy opened my eyes on how the athiest thinks at an intelectual level and has helped tremendously in my christian appologetics.
Now that Trump is president, or will be soon, we should see the education system handled at the state level and hopefully rethink the impact that common core has had on our youth. Although I believe this should be handled on the county level, I see things moving in the right direction. I most certainly advocate that a clasical education be administered in all public education facilities here in Florida.
Where's Stoicism? It's more important, especially today, than the rest of them combined.
Even epicureanism is better than stoicism
@@arikking5893 That is debatable. Though pleasure seeking seems to be a natural human inclination, we ought not be consumed as we have by it; in doing so, we cause future generations greater suffering, as non before have prepared themselves for the difficulties that life presents and thus dooms the rise of weak men. Stoicism is more preferable I would say in that regard, as it prepares one for these events and creates strong minded individuals capable of enduring and appreciating life as it comes rather than seeking a life of total bliss or ignorance (which I would argue is necessary for maximizing pleasure, but is very much a dangerous endeavor).
@@arikking5893No.
Lies! Twisting the truth!
+Keegan Rice
Expected educational establishment response. Proclamations with no facts, evidence or sound argumentation. This is exactly why we need classical education in America.
Ha! The only female in this video, besides children who are in the same photograph, is a teacher in a classroom from what looks like the 1950's. Every role model from the beginning to the end is a male. Every speaker is a male. Fortunately, I have learned to dissect one of the worst flaws in classical education. You've got a problem and its a big problem! This video highlights it very clearly.
You do realize we're talking about a system whose foundation predates the Woman's Rights movement by several millennia, right? We're also talking about the same system which carried Western civilization from antiquity into modernity (with the lot of women and humanity in general progressively improving, I would add). You haven't dissected anything - you've pointed out an absence of women in a twelve minute video comprised of largely text-based images, and from this inferred a pervasive sexist conspiracy (in spite of glaringly obvious reasons for a diminutive female influence on the classical model of education). The only thing you've successfully done is, reveal your own bias and the complete corruption it has wrought on your objective reasoning.
@Straight White Male What's interesting for me is that I am a woman and I agree with aservantofelohim, at the same time I feel it is a strength that I feel so much, as women do. It seems that I am not like most women in that they seem to be manipulated by their feelings, and weaponized against their own society. I think there is even something in the bible where "gullible women" are used by their enemy. Such weakness isn't necessarily normal, although now it is very widespread. Perhaps women have been taught to hate their own softness, perhaps in their own experience they were not appreciated for their softness. It's hard for each of us to respect the qualities of the opposite sex, when the qualities of our own sex and therefore makeup are not respected and appreciated by the opposite sex. I love men for their strength and their hardness. I love their clarity when I can't see readily that my emotions are being manipulated. I find that as the men in my life know and see my respect for their gifts, they regard the gifts of my womanness, like softness and feelings, as worthy influencers on their opinions and actions. It's rather dangerous that this equilibrium isn't out in society at large- both sexes have the power to destroy the other...and therefore our society as we know it.
@Straight White Male Actually, I find it to be more of a rejection of male nature, or an invalidation of it's value. That is the narrative being pushed and foolish women are running with it, not understanding that we need one another to have a balanced vision.
Now that Trump is president, or will be soon, we should see the education system handled at the state level and hopefully rethink the impact that common core has had on our youth. Although I believe this should be handled on the county level, I see things moving in the right direction. I most certainly advocate that a clasical education be administered in all public education facilities here in Florida.
God help us all if the federal government gives the power of education to the states. As a Texan, I shudder to think of the way the public school system would change for the worse if this state could determine what it wanted to teach and how. Besides that, Texas prints the majority of the nation's textbooks and allowing them free reign over that, alone, would ruin the educations of millions of American schoolchildren.
Trump is no fan of critical thinking.