Great video thoroughly explaining nuke wall! One thing you missed, however, was building skillchains via immanence with scholar using no magic damage and magic attack bonus gear. When doing this, it will not trigger the nuke wall. I’m not sure the exact damage threshold that triggers the nuke wall, but doing 0-50 damage will not.
Thanks! Good point. I haven’t revisited this video in a while, but the nuke wall penalty scales with damage up to a cap around 2600 dmg (iirc) giving the max 40% penalty. It’s very good practice for scholars to build a low Mdmg/MAB set specifically for closing immanence skillchains so you’re not immediately nuke walling your bursts.
Thanks for the video. just sharing what we on boss G is one of the sch TR : liquefaction and immanence thunder before the window close to make a fusion. It's what we used to do on zerde as well.
Great video! Just to clarify, the nuke wall is only applied to following nukes of the same element. This is also extended to blue magic, ninjitsu, amd lunge/swipe.
Thanks! Jakey at FFXI Math recently did some testing on the nuke wall: th-cam.com/video/PW7wuobIB0A/w-d-xo.html My four takeaways from his video: 1) Nuke wall is element-specific 2) immanence does inflict nuke wall penalty (so SCH should use level 2 SC and close with an element that won’t be bursted) 3) There is no 60% penalty, and the 40% penalty becomes 20% after 1 second, then disappears after 4 more seconds 4) additional nukes DO restart/extend the penalty timer (not 100% sure if I agree with that analysis, because I’ve seen random dmg spikes in the middle of multiple people bursting, but that’s just anecdotal).
Generally, I'm referring to the BLM as the heavy hitter compared to SCH or GEO. In other words, if you're the GEO and you're not hitting capped dmg, you shouldn't be trying to land 1st MB (and nuke walling others). However, bg-wiki has a good MB set for BLM here: www.bg-wiki.com/ffxi/All_Jobs_Gear_Sets/Black_Mage My only deviation is +2 BLM earring (super rare, I know) for Regal, and I swap in Quanpur necklace for earth-based nukes.
In the Dream Team MB example, you have SCH casting Stone 5 twice within the first 5 seconds. What wizardry are you summoning to make that happen? Unless.... 2 scholars in the party? Was hoping to apply this to Ongo :(
According to the JP wiki, the AM2 effect is -30 M.eva for 15 seconds. So that'd be like 50% of a Threnody I with no +song equipment for only 15 seconds. Not worth it imho
It's called Gear Info: github.com/sebyg666/GearInfo Just an FYI, it doesn't capture augments properly. So if you have a piece of gear augmented with Haste +4% for example, it won't show in the addon. The default look is also a bit different. I changed the layout to be a bit more pleasing to the eye.
On asura most pick up groups are terrible at anything other than weapon skill spam... GEO or RDM should not magic burst at all... The majority of players nuke wall BLM instead of playing support role... The annoying part is these people are grown and the game is +20 years old should be common sense...
Agreed - that's what inspired me to make this video. It seems so many players don't realize they're hurting the overall damage by dropping a whopping 3k MB before the BLM or SCH have a chance to MB.
What a great video. Nicely put together
Thanks! Glad you liked it.
Great video thoroughly explaining nuke wall!
One thing you missed, however, was building skillchains via immanence with scholar using no magic damage and magic attack bonus gear. When doing this, it will not trigger the nuke wall. I’m not sure the exact damage threshold that triggers the nuke wall, but doing 0-50 damage will not.
Thanks! Good point. I haven’t revisited this video in a while, but the nuke wall penalty scales with damage up to a cap around 2600 dmg (iirc) giving the max 40% penalty. It’s very good practice for scholars to build a low Mdmg/MAB set specifically for closing immanence skillchains so you’re not immediately nuke walling your bursts.
Thanks for the video. just sharing what we on boss G is one of the sch TR : liquefaction and immanence thunder before the window close to make a fusion. It's what we used to do on zerde as well.
An easy way to understand scholar MB window: Wait for the full animation of the closing spell, imagine a weaponskill with a bunch of hits.
Great video! Just to clarify, the nuke wall is only applied to following nukes of the same element. This is also extended to blue magic, ninjitsu, amd lunge/swipe.
Thanks! Jakey at FFXI Math recently did some testing on the nuke wall:
th-cam.com/video/PW7wuobIB0A/w-d-xo.html
My four takeaways from his video:
1) Nuke wall is element-specific
2) immanence does inflict nuke wall penalty (so SCH should use level 2 SC and close with an element that won’t be bursted)
3) There is no 60% penalty, and the 40% penalty becomes 20% after 1 second, then disappears after 4 more seconds
4) additional nukes DO restart/extend the penalty timer (not 100% sure if I agree with that analysis, because I’ve seen random dmg spikes in the middle of multiple people bursting, but that’s just anecdotal).
Excellent Work Bro, Well Explained.
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it!
What a fun video😊
Do you have anything to reference for blm gear and what would be considered a "heavy hitter" for a blm as you mention? Hitting cap dmg with T5 nukes
Generally, I'm referring to the BLM as the heavy hitter compared to SCH or GEO. In other words, if you're the GEO and you're not hitting capped dmg, you shouldn't be trying to land 1st MB (and nuke walling others). However, bg-wiki has a good MB set for BLM here:
www.bg-wiki.com/ffxi/All_Jobs_Gear_Sets/Black_Mage
My only deviation is +2 BLM earring (super rare, I know) for Regal, and I swap in Quanpur necklace for earth-based nukes.
In the Dream Team MB example, you have SCH casting Stone 5 twice within the first 5 seconds. What wizardry are you summoning to make that happen? Unless.... 2 scholars in the party? Was hoping to apply this to Ongo :(
Yeah, this assumes two SCH. Sorry :(
I’m curious how ancient magic plays a role in debugging as well or is it not worth doing at all?
According to the JP wiki, the AM2 effect is -30 M.eva for 15 seconds. So that'd be like 50% of a Threnody I with no +song equipment for only 15 seconds. Not worth it imho
Thanks for the response ^^
What's the addon with the stat view next to equipment viewer called?
It's called Gear Info: github.com/sebyg666/GearInfo
Just an FYI, it doesn't capture augments properly. So if you have a piece of gear augmented with Haste +4% for example, it won't show in the addon. The default look is also a bit different. I changed the layout to be a bit more pleasing to the eye.
On asura most pick up groups are terrible at anything other than weapon skill spam... GEO or RDM should not magic burst at all... The majority of players nuke wall BLM instead of playing support role... The annoying part is these people are grown and the game is +20 years old should be common sense...
Agreed - that's what inspired me to make this video. It seems so many players don't realize they're hurting the overall damage by dropping a whopping 3k MB before the BLM or SCH have a chance to MB.