I'M SO HAPPY YOU HAVE THAT GEAR SET! My absolute favorite for arcane! I almost have all of it but if you are looking to really complete it get the "Staff of the Redeemer" I think it's called. Looks fantastic. Anyways, glad to see SOMEONE making mop arcane vids lol
during end of beta period they focus mostly on what changes they have made and tweak it here and there as needed if still needed at live it will be changed
fire is very mobile with scorch, can do decent burst, and dragons roar is very good control. not as good as frost, but good. not to mention multi-dottiing gives good synergy with affflocks
We have Frost Nova, Cone of Cold, Deep Freeze, Polymorph, and Slow. We can spec into Fostjaw, and we can spec into ice floes for two mobile arcane blasts or we can get Scorch (since fire/frost/arcane damage isn't preferred over another regardless of spec). Arcane charges are what make arcane Mages who they are in PvE, and with the changes to our mechanics alone we're definitely more mobile in PvP. I would rather have this charge mechanic than be a copy-paste of frost.
Fire mages have 3 second stun, 45 second cooldown - Combustion 5 second stun, 30 second cooldown - Deep Freeze (I mean really, the signature frost ability?) 4 second AoE disorient, 25 second cooldown - Dragon's Breath 8 second duration CC, no cooldown - Polymorph 4 second blanket, 7 second successful lockout, 24'ish second cooldown - Counterspell Either Ring of Frost 30 second CD or Frostjaw 20'ish second CD And Frost Nova Yea not over powered Just 7 cc's and amazing burst plus absorb talents
Herpderp, I am fully aware of the CC we got. In comparison, Fire has those ccs minus Slow but plus Dragon's Breath and Combustion-stun. Frost has an extra nova through the pet and Frozen Orb instead of Slow. Arcane is STILL the weakest spec when it comes to CC, so both survival and control is weaker. Its burst needs time to build up. No decent player will take Frostjaw and Ice Floes/Scorch for PvP. Ring of Frost is much more potent, and the occasional Presence of Mind is way stronger.
i seent there were 2 more freez spells (i no they got ride of one) which will make pvp more fun for frost. And forst mage can geal themselfs a little more now
Your right bro mages only have 7 different CC's 2 absorb talents 1 that heals them when they are gonna get burst down.Talents that heal 30% of there HP that can be used while cc'd and is not on the GCD that also resets cc cool downs.Mages also have 70 % aoe slows with frost bomb or the 90% damage reduction from invis. Lets not forget you can counter spell while casting. Your right though bro its still beta ghost crawler can still give them more tools to make them even more OP.
Nothing is more op then the other classes, so fuckin stop it, blizzard does a fantastic job at balancing everything out; which is why it's so successful. As proof that people jump the gun on things I'll tell you each class that is considered 'op'- death knights, paladins, priests, warlocks, mages, shamans, druids, monks (yes people are assuming things this fast), rogues, warriors, and hunters.
to all of u who thinks mages got buffed, go read mmo champion lol. mages has been nerfed for about 3 or 4 times lately. i personally plays a mage and i love the class, but now im thinking to make my mage an alt
They lean certain specs towards certain gamestyles.. For example Fire and Arcane are PvE while Frost is PvP. Why? Because Fire and Arcane is ass in PvP, and Frost is ass in PvE.
I still dislike the entire charge-thingy and that arcane barrage consumes it. It's the biggest reason of why arcane isn't that good in PvP. To do damage in PvP, you have to either have huge cc or to be mobile as a caster. Arcane lacks cc, and their mobile ability removes all the damage from the stacks.
Stick with the mage kid you would not make it with much else. I didnt even bring up 2 absorbs 1 absorb that heals you for damage taken or 30% heal used while cc'd that refreshes all 7 of your CD's. Nor did i bring up the combust that bursts over 350k. So a class that has 2x as more cc than any other class with THE best burst in the game unlimited mobility with scorch is some how not OP. 70% aoes slows not op? Did i mention the unlimited mana? Yea you must be a mage to think that is normal.
Come back to reality. Mages have 2x the cc the best mobility and best burst in the game. Your mage tears did make me smile. 7 cc's and you whine about mitigation the only specs that need mitigation is tanks and disc priests.Just because you do not understand the new changes does not mean mages are bad. It means you are bad. Mana even got hot fixed for mages since 90 talents generate mana. I think i have it right along with countless other people I think your delusional if you think mages are bad
OMG!!! So much better this video than the last! Very clear and precise! Love your work man! Thanks!
i sometimes find the local news very boring, but i sit through it anyway because i value being informed
I'M SO HAPPY YOU HAVE THAT GEAR SET! My absolute favorite for arcane! I almost have all of it but if you are looking to really complete it get the "Staff of the Redeemer" I think it's called. Looks fantastic. Anyways, glad to see SOMEONE making mop arcane vids lol
Love the fact u shot the video in TBC brings back memories :D
Yep. It definitely is.
So mages are gonna be even more OP in mop. Good to know Ghost crawler is still loving his mage
dude... that mount in the beginning is amazing!! how did you get that?
Fire is good if you're left to free-cast or everyone squishes together like sardines.
that is a cool mount at the beginning
Has it crossed your mind that Arcane might be for PvE? Durr?
what is that mount in the beginning?
during end of beta period they focus mostly on what changes they have made and tweak it here and there as needed if still needed at live it will be changed
fire is very mobile with scorch, can do decent burst, and dragons roar is very good control. not as good as frost, but good. not to mention multi-dottiing gives good synergy with affflocks
Mages OP, and please make tgn vids fun to watch not so boring its a game not maths!
Nice video, nice changes
so what the best spc for pvp with a mage
How are arcane mages OP? Have you seen the other classes?
anybody know how the talent tree's have changed or if they have?
Mages looked bad at first, but now they dont seem too bad.
neat, mages look cool in Mop
Rogues got that giant ass nerf we were all waiting for.
We have Frost Nova, Cone of Cold, Deep Freeze, Polymorph, and Slow. We can spec into Fostjaw, and we can spec into ice floes for two mobile arcane blasts or we can get Scorch (since fire/frost/arcane damage isn't preferred over another regardless of spec). Arcane charges are what make arcane Mages who they are in PvE, and with the changes to our mechanics alone we're definitely more mobile in PvP. I would rather have this charge mechanic than be a copy-paste of frost.
It's a TCG rocket, sometimes when you copy characters to the beta you randomly get TCG mounts, it happened to my friend
Fire mages have
3 second stun, 45 second cooldown - Combustion
5 second stun, 30 second cooldown - Deep Freeze (I mean really, the signature frost ability?)
4 second AoE disorient, 25 second cooldown - Dragon's Breath
8 second duration CC, no cooldown - Polymorph
4 second blanket, 7 second successful lockout, 24'ish second cooldown - Counterspell
Either Ring of Frost 30 second CD or Frostjaw 20'ish second CD
And Frost Nova Yea not over powered Just 7 cc's and amazing burst plus absorb talents
Herpderp, I am fully aware of the CC we got. In comparison, Fire has those ccs minus Slow but plus Dragon's Breath and Combustion-stun. Frost has an extra nova through the pet and Frozen Orb instead of Slow.
Arcane is STILL the weakest spec when it comes to CC, so both survival and control is weaker. Its burst needs time to build up. No decent player will take Frostjaw and Ice Floes/Scorch for PvP. Ring of Frost is much more potent, and the occasional Presence of Mind is way stronger.
i seent there were 2 more freez spells (i no they got ride of one) which will make pvp more fun for frost.
And forst mage can geal themselfs a little more now
I love how people are calling OP before they have any rational idea of the damage arcane mages put out
Your right bro mages only have 7 different CC's 2 absorb talents 1 that heals them when they are gonna get burst down.Talents that heal 30% of there HP that can be used while cc'd and is not on the GCD that also resets cc cool downs.Mages also have 70 % aoe slows with frost bomb or the 90% damage reduction from invis. Lets not forget you can counter spell while casting. Your right though bro its still beta ghost crawler can still give them more tools to make them even more OP.
fire is very good right now and better on ptr and beta
I miss older wow : /
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Blizzard have made it very clear that no spec is intended to only function in one aspect of the game...
has tgn done boomkin yet :p
holy fuck they got more cc.. fucking perfect
still laughing at the mount at the start. lol
nice :)
Nerds getting their panties in a bunch is more amusing than watching the video :)
is this beta?
Pwn nubs!
A Mists video with gameplay in Outland. :\
lol nope but first time i actually had the chance to so i took it :P
Damn it, im a Frost Mage D:
Prot paladin already!!???
Nothing is more op then the other classes, so fuckin stop it, blizzard does a fantastic job at balancing everything out; which is why it's so successful. As proof that people jump the gun on things I'll tell you each class that is considered 'op'- death knights, paladins, priests, warlocks, mages, shamans, druids, monks (yes people are assuming things this fast), rogues, warriors, and hunters.
They're not. They're really balanced right now. Play the beta before you make assumptions.
cuz mages geting OP again -.-
Engineering mount.
yes, because it isnt beta and its all finished
to all of u who thinks mages got buffed, go read mmo champion lol. mages has been nerfed for about 3 or 4 times lately. i personally plays a mage and i love the class, but now im thinking to make my mage an alt
People still do that?
They lean certain specs towards certain gamestyles.. For example Fire and Arcane are PvE while Frost is PvP. Why? Because Fire and Arcane is ass in PvP, and Frost is ass in PvE.
-_- did i say i didnt watch it! i said it would be more interesting if it was a bit different!
BG's don't count. Also the reason I mean Fire and Arcane suck at PvP is that Frost is SO much better. It's stupid to pass up frost.
I still dislike the entire charge-thingy and that arcane barrage consumes it. It's the biggest reason of why arcane isn't that good in PvP. To do damage in PvP, you have to either have huge cc or to be mobile as a caster. Arcane lacks cc, and their mobile ability removes all the damage from the stacks.
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if they are getting their butt-kicked then they op'd lol
Buff cold snap?Are you fucking serious?...
Supp?
Stick with the mage kid you would not make it with much else. I didnt even bring up 2 absorbs 1 absorb that heals you for damage taken or 30% heal used while cc'd that refreshes all 7 of your CD's. Nor did i bring up the combust that bursts over 350k. So a class that has 2x as more cc than any other class with THE best burst in the game unlimited mobility with scorch is some how not OP. 70% aoes slows not op? Did i mention the unlimited mana? Yea you must be a mage to think that is normal.
arcane doesnt seem very op
bullshit.. at live they usually have everything fucked up and then there is about 6 patches to try and make it decent
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Come back to reality. Mages have 2x the cc the best mobility and best burst in the game. Your mage tears did make me smile. 7 cc's and you whine about mitigation the only specs that need mitigation is tanks and disc priests.Just because you do not understand the new changes does not mean mages are bad. It means you are bad. Mana even got hot fixed for mages since 90 talents generate mana. I think i have it right along with countless other people I think your delusional if you think mages are bad
haha its not the damage of a mage its their cc and defensives that are op but then again their damage is also op! waw so they are op..
lmao... you been living under a rock? yes they've changed sooooo much. their isn't even talent tree..
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what mount is that at the beginning?