JRjr's first run on x-men is incredible. nimrod era x-men didn't get a lot of hype but the action is great imo. always loved the way he drew nightcrawler, colossus and he drew the best rachel summers hound.
jrjr is a beast I'm slowly realizing. His sound foundation is versatility is key, which can be said of some of the old greats like his dad and John Buscema. I would love to hear you guys' opinions on that early wolverine solo monthly that started with claremont and buscema (another must have essential: Essential Wolverine #1)
He’s top 10 for me - like others always say, he has mastered weight, form and movement like Kirby, Ditko, Adams, Buscema, etc. His work on the Nocenti Dardevil is phenomenal. 💀🔥
I'm surprised to hear you didn't like it when it first came out! This was the book that made me fall in love with JRJR. Loved the speed of its production; you're right, it definitely served the material.
The energy in these pages is insane. Although he's always been popular, I'm surprised in retrospect that JRJR wasn't a bigger star in the 90s. These issues encapsulate everything that seemed cool to us 90s kids about Liefeld's art, but they are actually well executed and they really hold up.
I actually bought that double-page spread at the @13:08 mark for my buddy as a wedding gift. It was fucking awesome to have that shit on my drawing table for even just a few minutes.
Also, so glad to see some JRJR love on the channel. For my money, he's the quintessential American superhero comics artist of the last 30 years. The dude does everything, and he does it WELL.
I definitely copied some of JRJr's action poses form this mini-series for window paintings of football games I did at a Sports Bar. He's so fundamental it doesn't matter how much of a hurry he's in-- his roughs sketches are in perfect perspective 100% of the time, better than anybody.
Bought issue 1, again, because of this video. 🙂 Regarding the colors, I loved it when it first came out. Looking at it now, I still do, but agree on the things pointed out here. I figured out why I love it: it's already digital color, but it still used the color language of pre-digital comics. So you still see a lot of magenta and cyans when all those colorful stuff even if they already have the means to go beyond it.
“Dick in a Sock!” Hahahahahahahahaha, and it totally did look like one! Absolutely brilliant! Great episode! Totally pleased to have found this channel!
Man, JRJR really brought his A game to this mini-series. I remember being very surprised by how awesome these 2 issues were back in the day. I initially wasnt looking forward to them as Liefeld had moved on to Image and thinking that Romita was the wrong artist for this. I loved his work on Daredevil and Warzone but thought he was a bad fit for Cable. Man, was I wrong- it was like he became a totally different artist and went to a whole new level proving he could do the more popular characters as well as the Image guys. In fact I actually prefer his Cable to Liefeld- he gave form to the characters, the tech, the pads, the world in a way that Liefeld didnt- and brought it all to life in a way Liefeld couldnt. Everything felt more real and looked more exciting. Plus the colouring for this- was superb- the way a superhero comic should look. Also it made me realise that Romita is only awesome when he is being inked by Janson- its almost as if no one else knows how to ink Romita Jr properly- Janson brings out the best in his work. Romita Jr's best work has always been with Janson in my opinion. Finally- he is a much better storyteller than Liefeld which I really appreciated- its one of the reasons I kept on re-reading these issues over and over- one of the best comics from the 90s in my opinion.
JRJR is really fascinating. He's so talented, but he's also SUCH a blue-collar guy. I'm pretty positive he loves comics, but very much sees it as a job, and it creates some really wild dissonance in some of his work, because you'll get books that are literally some of the best art Big Two comics has ever offered, and you'll also get some absolute clunkers, like his work on AVX. Regardless, he's still my all-time fave.
Great episode! Speaking of Cable, have you covered Jose Ladronn? If you do, I hope you include his Spider-Boy issues alongside Hip Flask. Might be my favorite Kirby tribute artist.
I've always loved JR JR's art... I remember he followed high profile artist in some runs at the time, think he was right after Paul Smith in the Uncanny X-Men and Frank Miller in Daredevil. I dropped a sub when the youtuber called his art shit... never call JR JR art shit.
I think John romita Jr is a talented artist and love some of his stuff kind of like this it's very stylized, but of course whoever did the inks on that probably takes a lot of that credit as far as it looking so solid and heavy as you guys said. Because honestly the artwork on his uncanny X-Men run was hollow as hell. The X-Men world these thin lined empty caricatures of themselves artistically. His run ruined the X-Men for me I didn't come back until the mutant massacre about 20 issues later just to watch them all get killed! Which really sucked for me because I love that comic it was my favorite.
At the time I hated Liefeld's art so much I didn't even want to see his characters drawn by other people and avoided anything that had his characters in it, except this. I couldn't pass up some JRJR Dan Green action, even if it was fucking Cable. To me Claremont JRJR and Dan Green are the X-Men.
Could you guys please do a John ramita Jr X-Men episode. His art is so much different in what you're presenting in cable and The uncanny X-Men I would love to know how he got on the book I would love to hear you guys explain exactly the controversy of his art style compared to Paul Smith that really drew the eye of many fans including myself. I've never understood how he ended up on that book I mean I know Paul Smith had to leave it for some reason but that they put him on it and I think it was supposed to be temporary and he got to stay for like 50 issues I'm not sure I ever understood that.
JRjr's first run on x-men is incredible. nimrod era x-men didn't get a lot of hype but the action is great imo. always loved the way he drew nightcrawler, colossus and he drew the best rachel summers hound.
I really would love to see mote JRJR content in this channel, loved this.
Ed, Jim... can we have a discussion of the evolution of Greg Capullo?
And Dan Panosian for that matter.
His Quasar run had me thinking at the time that he was aping JRJr which I was down for. And then McFarland snags him... which I wasn't down for.
matteo ceccotti what does that mean?
Yes PJB, would love to hear what they have to say about Greg's work. ...derekdraws about Dan as well.
Oh man. I love old school Romita Jr and his blocky anatomy.
jrjr is a beast I'm slowly realizing. His sound foundation is versatility is key, which can be said of some of the old greats like his dad and John Buscema. I would love to hear you guys' opinions on that early wolverine solo monthly that started with claremont and buscema (another must have essential: Essential Wolverine #1)
His X-Men, Early Daredevil stuff is amazing. His figures has power and weight... And the moviments...is all there, man. He is a master.
He’s top 10 for me - like others always say, he has mastered weight, form and movement like Kirby, Ditko, Adams, Buscema, etc. His work on the Nocenti Dardevil is phenomenal. 💀🔥
3:30 "Keep it Liefeld friendly" sounds like prime cartoonist kayfabe.
Man those two cable issues were awesome ,bought them right when they hit the comic shop
I love JRJR storytelling and art
Jrjr is my favorite comic artist of all time
One of the best Romita J.R. works ever with great script by Fabian Nicieza!
No matter what JRJR draws I always love the results. One of my favorites
I'm surprised to hear you didn't like it when it first came out! This was the book that made me fall in love with JRJR. Loved the speed of its production; you're right, it definitely served the material.
I love John Romita Jr. First introduced to him on Daredevil. Absolutely loved this Cable miniseries. The art blew me away. (The story less so)
Reading along with this is so freakin' cool! Romita Jr. is a master!
The energy in these pages is insane. Although he's always been popular, I'm surprised in retrospect that JRJR wasn't a bigger star in the 90s. These issues encapsulate everything that seemed cool to us 90s kids about Liefeld's art, but they are actually well executed and they really hold up.
JR JR best cover is Punisher: War Zone 1, 1992. The cover has wholes
Súper fun episode. Love this miniseries. For me it's one of the best looks Cable ever had
I actually bought that double-page spread at the @13:08 mark for my buddy as a wedding gift. It was fucking awesome to have that shit on my drawing table for even just a few minutes.
Also, so glad to see some JRJR love on the channel. For my money, he's the quintessential American superhero comics artist of the last 30 years. The dude does everything, and he does it WELL.
Damn, you’re a great friend! 💀🔥
Man, I was (and still am) a huge fan of the cordless power tool look of JRJR's weapon design of that era.
Has there been a Texeira episode yet?
What Texeira comic would you recommend? - Jim
@@CartoonistKayfabe I'm partial to his run on Ghost Rider!
@@CartoonistKayfabe Ghost Rider or Black Panther.
Definitely Ghost Rider.
Jr Jr! My favorite mainstream artist 💯
I would love to get a black and white version of this!
I definitely copied some of JRJr's action poses form this mini-series for window paintings of football games I did at a Sports Bar. He's so fundamental it doesn't matter how much of a hurry he's in-- his roughs sketches are in perfect perspective 100% of the time, better than anybody.
Bought issue 1, again, because of this video. 🙂 Regarding the colors, I loved it when it first came out. Looking at it now, I still do, but agree on the things pointed out here. I figured out why I love it: it's already digital color, but it still used the color language of pre-digital comics. So you still see a lot of magenta and cyans when all those colorful stuff even if they already have the means to go beyond it.
What would you call that page setup at 14:30? I'm trying to look up more scenes of people shooting as splash pages
“Dick in a Sock!” Hahahahahahahahaha, and it totally did look like one! Absolutely brilliant! Great episode! Totally pleased to have found this channel!
i actually loved these 2 issues.
This 2 issue mini actually had me hyped!
Then that gold foil issue 1 dropped.
Thanks fellas.
Man, JRJR really brought his A game to this mini-series. I remember being very surprised by how awesome these 2 issues were back in the day. I initially wasnt looking forward to them as Liefeld had moved on to Image and thinking that Romita was the wrong artist for this. I loved his work on Daredevil and Warzone but thought he was a bad fit for Cable. Man, was I wrong- it was like he became a totally different artist and went to a whole new level proving he could do the more popular characters as well as the Image guys. In fact I actually prefer his Cable to Liefeld- he gave form to the characters, the tech, the pads, the world in a way that Liefeld didnt- and brought it all to life in a way Liefeld couldnt. Everything felt more real and looked more exciting. Plus the colouring for this- was superb- the way a superhero comic should look. Also it made me realise that Romita is only awesome when he is being inked by Janson- its almost as if no one else knows how to ink Romita Jr properly- Janson brings out the best in his work. Romita Jr's best work has always been with Janson in my opinion. Finally- he is a much better storyteller than Liefeld which I really appreciated- its one of the reasons I kept on re-reading these issues over and over- one of the best comics from the 90s in my opinion.
This is great two issues of Cable that was a great memory for me.
I loved this. The taxis showing inflation seemed hilarious.
Jr Jr will always be great. And this comics mini serie is sooo "macho" 😏 as Rob liked to say
Romita Jr. has been the penciller on Action Comics lately, and despite some rough patches, some of it is really reminiscent of his older stuff.
yeah, there's a real looseness to it. and sometimes, it really works.
JRJR is really fascinating. He's so talented, but he's also SUCH a blue-collar guy. I'm pretty positive he loves comics, but very much sees it as a job, and it creates some really wild dissonance in some of his work, because you'll get books that are literally some of the best art Big Two comics has ever offered, and you'll also get some absolute clunkers, like his work on AVX. Regardless, he's still my all-time fave.
Really enjoyed this video even though JR JR is not for me.
I would love if you guys would ever do a video covering JR JR’s punisher war zone run. Probably his best stuff.
That art was awesome
I loce JR JR. And Dan Green. And Steve Buchelato & LYnn Varley! And Adamn Kubert Wolverine!!
Great episode! Speaking of Cable, have you covered Jose Ladronn? If you do, I hope you include his Spider-Boy issues alongside Hip Flask. Might be my favorite Kirby tribute artist.
Was that what he left Iron Man for? I really liked his Iron Man at the time but this is SO different
When Sal buscema style breakdown
F#@$%&&cking great retrospect😄
JR JR is hit and miss. I think a lot of his success depends upon his inker’s ambition
I love JRJR. The first comic I ever read was Uncanny X-Men 300 and the cover by JRJR just called to me.
Oh man, if you guys got JRJR on, I’d loose my shit!
hey! just two days ago i thought "when will they do Romita jr?" haha nice
I've always loved JR JR's art... I remember he followed high profile artist in some runs at the time, think he was right after Paul Smith in the Uncanny X-Men and Frank Miller in Daredevil. I dropped a sub when the youtuber called his art shit... never call JR JR art shit.
I think John romita Jr is a talented artist and love some of his stuff kind of like this it's very stylized, but of course whoever did the inks on that probably takes a lot of that credit as far as it looking so solid and heavy as you guys said. Because honestly the artwork on his uncanny X-Men run was hollow as hell. The X-Men world these thin lined empty caricatures of themselves artistically. His run ruined the X-Men for me I didn't come back until the mutant massacre about 20 issues later just to watch them all get killed! Which really sucked for me because I love that comic it was my favorite.
Mulkey Mania!
Not a single ad in these issues, weird..
At the time I hated Liefeld's art so much I didn't even want to see his characters drawn by other people and avoided anything that had his characters in it, except this. I couldn't pass up some JRJR Dan Green action, even if it was fucking Cable. To me Claremont JRJR and Dan Green are the X-Men.
Could you guys please do a John ramita Jr X-Men episode. His art is so much different in what you're presenting in cable and The uncanny X-Men I would love to know how he got on the book I would love to hear you guys explain exactly the controversy of his art style compared to Paul Smith that really drew the eye of many fans including myself. I've never understood how he ended up on that book I mean I know Paul Smith had to leave it for some reason but that they put him on it and I think it was supposed to be temporary and he got to stay for like 50 issues I'm not sure I ever understood that.
Have you guys done JRJr Hearts of Darkness ft Ghost Rider, Wolverine and the Punisher? I'd love to hear your thoughts on that one