I like how Tom always talks to us like we are on a train that's starting to slowly pull away from the station, and he's jogging along side it trying to give us profound life-changing information before we never see each other again.
Fun fact: the problem at hand isn't our eyes, it's how our brains perceive something. Imagine it like the uncanny valley, but for location. Your facial recognition, depth perception, and spacial awareness are all at the same time saying "hold up, something's wrong" even if you yourself don't realize it.
Remember the experiment watching a movie with good audio but bad graphics vs bad audio good graphics. The audience could handle the visuals but they quit the movie with bad audio. Audio is one of the most important at giving information and is overlooked 😪
There is an episode of The Park Bench that covers more green screen visual and audio problems, and a Matt Gray video for applying a location's reverb to any recording you like. Both are interesting if you want more behind-the-scenes stuff.
On the technical side, if his skin was still a tan in the parallel universe there would have to be quite a lot of work out in to make his face not blend in with the green screen mainly because a skin tone has more red than green, so green screens are usually a better option. I know this was a joke btw.
*"This episode from 30 Rock... looks dreadful, but it's difficult to immediately point out why"* The word "immediately" obviously means you can't tell _immediately._
Matt Milton think about it. Is it your hobby? Do you like it? If not, you should quit yet if it is hard and you hate it. If you like it, you should keep going.
That's decent editing skills, nothing too spectacular. Captain D is the god of this stuff. And for editing that's more in the background and not the centre of attention, check out Markiplier videos. Lixian is the best editor any TH-cam gamer has.
How are you here?? How are you everywhere at every instant but at the same time nowhere at all. I don't know what I typed, but...…...I guess we have done a good deed to confirm your presence every single day
to be fair to the cats animators they were rushed super hard to finish and the directer decided not to use mocap suits for some reason so it looked terrible
I mean, on kinda "oldschool" sitcoms it gives some sort of "charm" to it, the bad CGI, bad greenscreen, the way they drive the cars and the background in the cars, it really screams sitcom to me..
In college we had to make a video that combined filmed footage and 3D rendering. The single biggest mistake people made was that the filmed footage was a bit blurry (as we didn't have great equipment), and the 3D renders were super sharp. You could have everything else right, and it still seems wrong if you add crystal sharp renders on blurry footage. So I just blurred the renders and it looks a 1000 times more convincing.
We play a game at my house: whenever a green screen does Not look right, we take a shot. As a consequence we are always drunk. Perhaps part of the problem is that nothing looks quite right when you are drinking shots.
Wow I loved this, so interesting to finally know exactly *why* things looked wrong on TV shows now and again! I've used green screens for years and would get so worked up about why it always looked bad. I think I've committed every sin here.
Hey, I'm not a subscriber but I remembered your Google+ song today out of the blue and went to check it out and now I find your comment in a totally unrelated video, small world x)
If you want a slightly deeper insight into green screens you should check out Captain Disillusion "Chinese Invisibility Cloak Hoax DESTROYED!!!" it's the best video on green screens I have seen and watching you can will be able to see why Tom's Green screen doesn't look fantastic in this video.
I mean that does happen. Say it’s really sunny outside and your friend is stood in the shade but the shade isn’t immediately obvious, and the immediate background behind them isn’t in the shade. Kinda looks like they were poorly green screened into real life.
That setup is the future. I hear they use Unreal engine for their backgrounds. Too bad it costs 10s of millions of dollars. But once you have it, its there forever.
Well many times green screen is simply used for convenience like having to shoot something after the movie has already wrapped filming or other things. Simply saying green screen is sometimes needed and isn't just trying to fool people.
"Just acknowledge the green screen" If you want to go all out, then get a tattoo that has lots of green in it. (Always good to see when one of Karl's editors have to one-up him and manage to key out the background and not the tattoo)
@@nickesteph4925 They upload on the same hour on the same days. Though personally, i am not so keen on the hiding comments that they are doing now but that has nothing to do with topic at hand.
For those interested, the effect mentioned at 3:42 is a 'dolly zoom.' Edit: you might have heard of other names for the same effect, but 'dolly zoom' is the name Wikipedia uses (and the name I use).
That Big Bang shot isn't green screen. They literally filmed it in front of a printed backdrop. Same result with the wrong lighting, but not green screen.
This video is a great definition to show AND tell - demonstrating what he's explaining through editting to make the concepts that much easier to understand
3:40 Tom: "... What?" Editor: "I know this looks bad..." Tom: *takes out a gun and shoots the editor* I've seen too many "Chris Pratt will be voicing super Mario" memes recently
Meanwhile, the company I work for, is like, "eh, we'll just shoot some pictures with my phone, and splice that into the project from 4 years ago. It's good enough." *Head, desk, head, desk. Can't even get a camera with changeable lenses. But the pay is decent, and my job isn't going anywhere even in the time of Covid.
For those curious, the effect at 3:42 is called the Dolly Zoom effect. It’s when you either dolly in and zoom out (like the Guardians shot), or dolly out and zoom in, all while keeping the subject in basically the same place on the screen.
@@Lumiesfinetoo dollying means physically moving the camera closer to or further from what’s being filmed. And I think anyone watching this understands what zooming in and out means. Dollying in and zooming out (or vice versa) have roughly opposite but not exactly opposite effects. So if you do both simultaneously at the right rates, you can keep the subject in the middle of the frame and have the affect that’s shown at 3:42.
Big Bang Theory: Those rocks are actually ones that have been used several times in Star Trek. You have to go through some serious environmental hoops to film out there these days. Mind you, this still doesn't excuse their garbage green screen for that shot.
@@williammallon4190 Agreed. I'm honestly not getting why people are criticizing it as if they wanted it to look convincing. As bad as the show itself is, I'm positive that whole scene was supposed to look as shitty as possible and doesn't reflect the editors' skills.
Tom !! (& another Thomas now too?) -- Are you serious ?!? 1:37 ...that you're "Not Convinced" that BigBang actually MEANT TO make it look cheesy?!? OF COURSE THEY DID !! C'mon, don't give me that. Here we are clicking on your videos because we thought you were a smart guy. Even with a 2-inch screen on my phone, it's so obvious. BTW they did more than simply "reference" the bad FX of low-budget 1980s/1960s television programming... This is a DIRECT LAMPOON / PARODY. And they were already "taking your advice" (4:03) to make it deliberately bad WAAAY before you "Noticed it" and graciously pointed it out for them. The producers thank you for your feedback. To prove my point, I could dwell on the more obvious reasons/evidence, but I'll skip to The Clincher: ...it's BIG-BANG THEORY getting their Dream-Come-True "StarTrek" episode which they've been sleepjaculating about since before even scripting the pilot. And you think they've left ANY-thing to CHANCE, and did not Comb This With A Fine-Tooth?... Well then, I'm not convinced YOU'VE EVER SEEN an episode of The BigBang Theory !
Amazing stuff! As a filmmaker I'm glad someone is finally mentioning the focal length difference. I've seen too many "green screen" videos that completely dismiss focal length matching.
the two that always stand out to me-and are the most common-are the lightning (seriously, it stands out so much when a person in a poorly lit room somehow is glowing like a million invisible spotlights are shining on them but not illuminating the room) and i guess what you said is the key for outlines. They look almost like they were animated in with the ink lines showing, just a thin dark outline around them the whole time that's worse than century old photo tricks
0:20 i see, i hope you're feeding your animator atleast twice a day, and atleast let him see sunlight once a week. i didn't do this for mine and now he's.. ummm... let's just say he's not doing so well
Umm, _ackchyually,_ you don't even have to own a physical greenscreen for the info about it to be useful. If you use footage made by someone else, you can cut out object frame by frame, and place them on a greenscreen for pre-rendering - TH-cam poopers do that all the time (not only them, other video editors also use it, but they most notably). In fact, digital greenscreen (which is just an image of the very bright, specific shade of green) and the "chroma keyer" tool are one of the most used video effects by editors.
I feel like this should be in a collection of videos as a resource for TH-cam content creators. Short, informative, vivid, honest. Your script writer(s) and editing team do an excellent job.
I'm sure graphics-heavy productions will return at some point! Just, hopefully, not for a while. And thanks to CuriosityStream for continuing to sponsor! Just $2.99 will get you access to them, and to Nebula and my original series: curiositystream.com/tomscott
I wish there was more of the Money show on Nebula. I had already watched it before seeing it (also watching/listening to Lateral and other of your shows), and when I saw this I thought for a second that I wasn't super late to seeing this video and that maybe there might be more Money that I hadn't already seen. Please keep making game shows. They're so much more thoughtful and interesting than the typical game show, and I love game shows in general, so they're the cream of the crop to me.
A reason why I know blue is one of the colours that work great: a specific shade of light blue pen/pencils are used by people who animate and also those who scans their sketches - the colour of that blue is easy for programs to not recognise, and therefore, the outline is more clean
My guess would be that Tom prefers to be on the left side or the middle, and that shot works much better flipped so he's not going straight through a car, or jumping from one side of the screen to the other.
This can be countered if you use a dark grey screen / Black screen, as the colour doesn't bleed into the edges of the subject, so the edges can be left more natural looking without having to desaturate them. It all depends on the colour of the subject in question.. Green screen is not the only option, and may not be the best choice for your subject. If you can use one, a black screen will give much better results.
@@TheMcal9909 You've got to be joking.. Black screen is not a thing. Blue screen is and fixes most of the problems the green screen has when shooting scenes that are supposed to be in dark areas. But i do repeat: black screen is not a thing.
That explanation of why indoor shots have more motion blur than outdoor ones was genuinely one of the best explained things I've ever seen, and it was also cool as hell. Love this vid. Great work as always
He could talk about the challenges people had with BLUE screen in the old film days (such as TOS.) Imagine printing green separation positives and red separation negatives and compositing them in an optical printer, all with film.
Is it just me or at 4:10 when transitioning to the space background Tom's voice changes a bit to simulate using a helmet on space, it immediately goes back to normal... probably a dropped idea that still got to the final video. Still props to the animator, really good job.
The Guardians effect at 3:45 is called a "dolly zoom" in case you're interested. The name is a reference to the rail system you need for the camera to do it. It's unsettling but not overly dizzying so, used right, it can draw more emotion out of a scene and get across that the character is shocked. The next time you watch Jaws, look out for it.
Another simple problem with green screen People sit too close to the green screen and when lighting themselves the green screen itself reflects some of the green light back in to them screwing with the keying.
We had this problem sometimes doing a news segment at school. It also tended to mess up levels because blacks would never look quite right. White clothes were highly discouraged.
For the show, aside from the lighting on the actors not showing up on the wall, and the dodgy drop shadow, there's also the issue of the wall no shadowing the actors. Conan is lit from behind him from an upper left direction. But there's just a wall there. He's got an impossible rimlight. I really wonder why they didn't just get a piece of wood in front of the actors. Even if they didn't have them in the same location, if you keep the lighting consistant and the pieces of wood are similar enough you could stitch those two pieces together and have it look like they're in front of a wall. It couldn't look much less elevatory than this.
*His videos always make me intrigued in what he's explaining.* There is a nice sense of one-on-one, simple explanations, and thought-provoking concepts that we take for granted explained in a way that makes you want to go explain it to others.
That's so strange I was just looking for a comment to piggyback this on to. After watching this, I got recommended the led wall mandalorian vid which was, for want of a better word... Unreal
daughter in theaters with live audience they usually use a big poster backdrop with a picture or realistic painting. Could this also have been used instead of a greenscreen for tbbt ? I cant tell...
OK, thanks for talking us through this, Tom. It was interesting, but your animator did a really amazing job buzzing us through all of these changes. That was really cool, and I'm sure it took hours of work.
how in 5 minutes you can go from knowing nothing in picking apart green screen to being a green screen curator who can list about 5 reasons on the spot of why it is a bad green screen edit.
It's a lot easier to spot the problems than it is to know how to fix them, especially if you're working with footage that can't be reshot, like in film or TV.
I've always heard it called the Vertigo effect! But no matter what people call it, it's one of my favourite filmmaking tricks. Seeing either the background get close to them or far away from them, it always has a great eerie unsettling effect.
whoever edited this deserves a high five
truly
In the description.
aye scout
more like an award
You do too mister
I like how Tom always talks to us like we are on a train that's starting to slowly pull away from the station, and he's jogging along side it trying to give us profound life-changing information before we never see each other again.
Ha, I love this
that's oddly specific yet true
That's deep 😁
😂😂😂
top notch comment! ty
Our eyes: Creates false illusions
Our eyes: Notices flaws we don't even know
At least the false illusions are convincing.
Bad green screening wouldn't even fool a child.
Fun fact: the problem at hand isn't our eyes, it's how our brains perceive something. Imagine it like the uncanny valley, but for location. Your facial recognition, depth perception, and spacial awareness are all at the same time saying "hold up, something's wrong" even if you yourself don't realize it.
"You didn't notice... but your brain did."
-Mr. Plinkett
Our eyes spot patterns, even make new ones.
@@cagkiller0317 kk
Sound also plays a factor, you can hear the reverb as Tom is sitting a small room where as being outside it wouldn't be there at all.
100% true and, most times, overlooked
Yeh i agree. This is what i thought
Remember the experiment watching a movie with good audio but bad graphics vs bad audio good graphics. The audience could handle the visuals but they quit the movie with bad audio. Audio is one of the most important at giving information and is overlooked 😪
Sure, but the video is about green screens, so image
There is an episode of The Park Bench that covers more green screen visual and audio problems, and a Matt Gray video for applying a location's reverb to any recording you like. Both are interesting if you want more behind-the-scenes stuff.
In a parallel universe, a green-shirted Tom is presenting this in front of a Red Screen
On the technical side, if his skin was still a tan in the parallel universe there would have to be quite a lot of work out in to make his face not blend in with the green screen mainly because a skin tone has more red than green, so green screens are usually a better option. I know this was a joke btw.
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@@plaonder You're wrong. In this parallel universe human skin is green.
“This episodes green screen is horrible but I’m not exactly sure why.”
sir his jacket is literally clipping
Also there is a bizarre blurry shadow that was probably added in post, but don't look convincing at all
*"This episode from 30 Rock... looks dreadful, but it's difficult to immediately point out why"*
The word "immediately" obviously means you can't tell _immediately._
i dont see it
Edit:I finally see I
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@@gabrielantos4144 As immediate as you can get with the natural latency of the mind, then.
50%: Tom explaining the use of green screen
50%: Tom's editor flexing his skills
Tom should I quit youtube my friends keep making fun of me for it
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Matt Milton think about it. Is it your hobby? Do you like it? If not, you should quit yet if it is hard and you hate it. If you like it, you should keep going.
@@MatthewMilton Doesn't sound like they're good friends if they're making fun of your hobby
That's decent editing skills, nothing too spectacular. Captain D is the god of this stuff.
And for editing that's more in the background and not the centre of attention, check out Markiplier videos. Lixian is the best editor any TH-cam gamer has.
Alternate title idea: Torturing my animator for 5 minutes straight
i would just make it crappy
We only saw five minutes but i bet this video took days to be made
Sive entered the chat
That's why his videos are released weekly or probably less
It is not so hard to cut out green screen...
Tom: *shows how to make green screen more realistic*
Me who doesn't even have a green screen: Ah yes, yes indeed
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On the elevator, the shadows they cast on the wall also look hideous.
THATS IT THATS THE ISSUE I WAS TRYING TO PINPOINT IT
Makes them look like cardboard cutouts held an inch away from the wall
They are just demons and don't cast shadows
@@molotera8789 They're also blocky :'D
blending options ---> drop shadow ✔️
I'd like to buy your animator and whoever else is responsible for the technical side of this video several beers
Fancy seeing you here doctor! 😏😜
I was scared by your comment until i saw several beers
Another gloomy night shift doc?
Nice to see you doctor
Herr Doktor, vat a surprise to zee you here...
Tom Scott's animator could've animated the Cats movie and actually would've made it look good
How are you here?? How are you everywhere at every instant but at the same time nowhere at all. I don't know what I typed, but...…...I guess we have done a good deed to confirm your presence every single day
Hello again
to be fair to the cats animators they were rushed super hard to finish and the directer decided not to use mocap suits for some reason so it looked terrible
Yo 100th time
Here too, huh. Can we be friends because I see you so much haha
Your animator deserves cookies for this, those badly done green screen parts were perfect.
I believe they are called "biscuits" in that part of the world.
@@ergohack No, we have cookies too. Biscuits go with tea. Cookies are more like a reward.
Mystery biscuits!
andymcl92 mystery cookies doesn’t have quite the same ring to it...
@@ergohack ermm if they don't have cookies over here, I've been lied to for my entire life.
Tom to is editor: "For this episode, I need you to green-screen me onto a green-screen..."
Greenscreenception
I mean, on kinda "oldschool" sitcoms it gives some sort of "charm" to it, the bad CGI, bad greenscreen, the way they drive the cars and the background in the cars, it really screams sitcom to me..
And how they keep turning the wheel even tho they are driving straight 😄
Wandavision leaned into that for sure. There is a lot of it to homage those old sitcoms
They wouldn't have faked an elevator though; they would have built a set for that or filmed a real one.
*coughs in merlin*
cgi wasn’t used bro it’s “compositing”
In today's episode: Tom Scotts's Editor Flexing his skills fpr 5 minutes straight
this
As stated in the end credits, you can thank William Marler for this.
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Also editor isn't a proper noun. You don't capitalize it. In addition, the F in flexing shouldn't be capitalized. It's a verb.
Tom edits his own videos :P but his animator, sure :)
@@Orange_Swirl wow, you're Fun
Lets be honest, the editor narrated this one. He's a pro!
narrated? how?
Wtf are u bsing
I think you mean wrote this one but to a certain degree yes
do you mean "nailed this one?"
@@TamirOulu visual storytelling! look it up, you can find tons of articles and videos about it.
In college we had to make a video that combined filmed footage and 3D rendering. The single biggest mistake people made was that the filmed footage was a bit blurry (as we didn't have great equipment), and the 3D renders were super sharp. You could have everything else right, and it still seems wrong if you add crystal sharp renders on blurry footage.
So I just blurred the renders and it looks a 1000 times more convincing.
did your project do well?
We play a game at my house: whenever a green screen does Not look right, we take a shot. As a consequence we are always drunk.
Perhaps part of the problem is that nothing looks quite right when you are drinking shots.
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So ur the reason why corona beer sales are still normal
What
It’s way more fun with children
props to the animator for the sicc job they've done
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@@tiyenin
They're 7 actually
Tom: "This is how green screen can go wrong and possible steps to avoid it"
Me, who only photoshops glasses onto cats: "hmm....yess.."
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Wow I loved this, so interesting to finally know exactly *why* things looked wrong on TV shows now and again! I've used green screens for years and would get so worked up about why it always looked bad. I think I've committed every sin here.
Hey, I'm not a subscriber but I remembered your Google+ song today out of the blue and went to check it out and now I find your comment in a totally unrelated video, small world x)
Hey now. Your TH-camr vs Musician diss track was pure art
sup emma
Yea, like some disney shows in the past
If you want a slightly deeper insight into green screens you should check out Captain Disillusion "Chinese Invisibility Cloak Hoax DESTROYED!!!" it's the best video on green screens I have seen and watching you can will be able to see why Tom's Green screen doesn't look fantastic in this video.
Imagine meeting someone in real life and they look like they're greenscreened in.
That'd be TERRIFYING!
What of that person was a hologram?
Software gore
But irl.
I mean that does happen. Say it’s really sunny outside and your friend is stood in the shade but the shade isn’t immediately obvious, and the immediate background behind them isn’t in the shade. Kinda looks like they were poorly green screened into real life.
@@entitree. A valid point.
That's a book character waiting to be written.
Fun fact: instead of green screens, the mandolorian used big L.E.D screens.
Interesting!
That setup is the future. I hear they use Unreal engine for their backgrounds. Too bad it costs 10s of millions of dollars. But once you have it, its there forever.
iirc they used something like that in some of the scenes in the movie Oblivion
I did wardrobe on a Goo Goo Dolls concert with one of these set ups. Someone said it was the Star Wars of holiday specials
@@ChefofWar33 I wasn't expecting a guy with an A7X deathbat picture under a Tom Scott video xD
In short: if it's too hard to trick people just stop trying to trick them.
Well many times green screen is simply used for convenience like having to shoot something after the movie has already wrapped filming or other things. Simply saying green screen is sometimes needed and isn't just trying to fool people.
Well, that would the end of politics...
Yes, lets go to mars and film there
Hence, why lying is always a bad idea.
@@HangTimeDeluxe I appreciate you for making the long crochety response we all knew this person needed but were too lazy to write
"Just acknowledge the green screen" If you want to go all out, then get a tattoo that has lots of green in it. (Always good to see when one of Karl's editors have to one-up him and manage to key out the background and not the tattoo)
I just realized that that isn't even as stupid of an idea as it was supposed to be
When karl decides to wear a green short sleeved tee just to make the editors life hard
@@SenshiSunPower well yes, but that's kinda hard for an online video format that comes out several times a week
Don't forget, it's Karl with a K, not a C.
Damn I've not watched that channel for ages!
@@nickesteph4925 They upload on the same hour on the same days. Though personally, i am not so keen on the hiding comments that they are doing now but that has nothing to do with topic at hand.
Remember when Captain Disillusion dressed up as Tom while talking about green screens?
What's the name of the video?
@@SkelloBellow It's "Chinese Invisibility Cloak Hoax DESTROYED!!!" , with the Tom Scott section starting about 6:20.
With the Pat Sharp surplus?
Underrated comment
I was looking for this comment!
Another one:
Replace your green screen with a picture of a different room with another green screen.
BOOM
Genious.
@@computer_dude no you are.
@@TsukiEditss Tanks
Mind blown
Greenscreensection :P
For those interested, the effect mentioned at 3:42 is a 'dolly zoom.'
Edit: you might have heard of other names for the same effect, but 'dolly zoom' is the name Wikipedia uses (and the name I use).
I've heard it referred to as a "rack zoom" as well.
@@adamtennant4936 And sometimes it's called the Vertigo effect.
Pifci it's a Dolly Zoom, often performed on a rack, which creates the vertigo effect.
Also called a Zolly
Oh hey, it's half tau eater.
That Big Bang shot isn't green screen. They literally filmed it in front of a printed backdrop. Same result with the wrong lighting, but not green screen.
One of these days, use a blue screen and wear a green shirt. You’ll blow everyone’s minds.
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Bright Red pants too?
a white/black wall would work better
Or just tell the editor to change the color in post. :)
Tom Scott not in a red shirt isn't Tom Scott.
This video is a great definition to show AND tell - demonstrating what he's explaining through editting to make the concepts that much easier to understand
Captain D is getting real good at these impressions
:)
My name is Leo and I approved this reference.
I really love this new costume of his. It's really convincing.
I’d love to see a collab between those two
One take!
And remember... _Love with your heart. Use your head for everything else_
Haha! YES! I thought there was something familiar about this video!
shut up
@@hannibalburgers477 Bruh exit the comments you have been banished
You sure that you aren't stealing someone's line? I might be mistaken, it might just be an illusion!
Haha
3:40
Tom: "... What?"
Editor: "I know this looks bad..."
Tom: *takes out a gun and shoots the editor*
I've seen too many "Chris Pratt will be voicing super Mario" memes recently
He’s so cool
@@blakeskit he's not cool. he's CHRISpy
"You might not have noticed, but your brain did”
Mr. Plinkett, is that you?
Who's in charge? Me or my brain?
you are the brain though lmao, your body is like the shell and parts
@@embodyingocean189 Can you be sure about that? Perhaps the brain is a parasite that let you think that you are in control. ;P
Are the nerves the legs of the brains?
Meanwhile, the company I work for, is like, "eh, we'll just shoot some pictures with my phone, and splice that into the project from 4 years ago. It's good enough."
*Head, desk, head, desk.
Can't even get a camera with changeable lenses. But the pay is decent, and my job isn't going anywhere even in the time of Covid.
Sounds like some boomer company
@@Rainaman- ok zoomer
@@Rainaman- ok zoomer
@@Rainaman- I'm assuming it's modern technology related, so no.
@@Rainaman-, booms with extra long poles to keep 2 metres distance.
Tom Scott: Why You Can Spot Bad Green Screen
Thumbnail: *shows Tom Scott with deformed skull*
I think I know why, Tom.
Th editor while doing the bad green screen effects:
"Process failed correctly"
Task failed successfully.
@@LjCaples Fission Mailed.
@@GenocideOwl So that's how the Soviet Union got their hands on nukes
Deliberate mistake.
@@LjCaples Is it really a failure if it is intentional?
did anyone else feel like the zoom out made Tom's head look absolutely massive? Just me?
yes, I think the lens disortion is doing that and stuff
This effect in cinema is known as "dolly zoom"
It's like two of these people are lying!
Yep!
I think everybody else felt that. It's also noticeable with selfies.
0:50 I weirdly love this effect, it's like you're being hugged by darkness
You gotta thank William Marler for that.
For those curious, the effect at 3:42 is called the Dolly Zoom effect. It’s when you either dolly in and zoom out (like the Guardians shot), or dolly out and zoom in, all while keeping the subject in basically the same place on the screen.
I thought it’s called the Vertigo zoom.
@@joachimb5721valid too, wait till you hear some call it the jaws effect
…what?
@@Lumiesfinetoo dollying means physically moving the camera closer to or further from what’s being filmed. And I think anyone watching this understands what zooming in and out means.
Dollying in and zooming out (or vice versa) have roughly opposite but not exactly opposite effects. So if you do both simultaneously at the right rates, you can keep the subject in the middle of the frame and have the affect that’s shown at 3:42.
This thumbnail will continue to haunt my dreams for years to come.
Right!! 😱
More like your pfp will haunt my dreams for years
Both have given me PTSD
Your pfp will continue to haunt my dreams for years to come...
@@centntn Oh that's just gollum.
"Huh, that looks odd."
"Why?"
"I don't know."
Big Bang Theory:
Those rocks are actually ones that have been used several times in Star Trek. You have to go through some serious environmental hoops to film out there these days.
Mind you, this still doesn't excuse their garbage green screen for that shot.
I’m guessing that big bang did that as an intentional nod to the cheesy old Star Trek sets. Just a guess.
@@williammallon4190 Agreed. I'm honestly not getting why people are criticizing it as if they wanted it to look convincing. As bad as the show itself is, I'm positive that whole scene was supposed to look as shitty as possible and doesn't reflect the editors' skills.
Tom !! (& another Thomas now too?) -- Are you serious ?!? 1:37 ...that you're "Not Convinced" that BigBang actually MEANT TO make it look cheesy?!? OF COURSE THEY DID !!
C'mon, don't give me that. Here we are clicking on your videos because we thought you were a smart guy.
Even with a 2-inch screen on my phone, it's so obvious. BTW they did more than simply "reference" the bad FX of low-budget 1980s/1960s television programming... This is a DIRECT LAMPOON / PARODY. And they were already "taking your advice" (4:03) to make it deliberately bad WAAAY before you "Noticed it" and graciously pointed it out for them. The producers thank you for your feedback.
To prove my point, I could dwell on the more obvious reasons/evidence, but I'll skip to The Clincher:
...it's BIG-BANG THEORY getting their Dream-Come-True "StarTrek" episode which they've been sleepjaculating about since before even scripting the pilot. And you think they've left ANY-thing to CHANCE, and did not Comb This With A Fine-Tooth?... Well then, I'm not convinced YOU'VE EVER SEEN an episode of The BigBang Theory !
Thumbs Down Jesus Christ relax
@@thumbsdown7502 It's never a good sign when someone overuses punctuation and capital letters.
Amazing stuff! As a filmmaker I'm glad someone is finally mentioning the focal length difference. I've seen too many "green screen" videos that completely dismiss focal length matching.
the two that always stand out to me-and are the most common-are the lightning (seriously, it stands out so much when a person in a poorly lit room somehow is glowing like a million invisible spotlights are shining on them but not illuminating the room) and i guess what you said is the key for outlines. They look almost like they were animated in with the ink lines showing, just a thin dark outline around them the whole time that's worse than century old photo tricks
0:20 i see, i hope you're feeding your animator atleast twice a day, and atleast let him see sunlight once a week. i didn't do this for mine and now he's.. ummm... let's just say he's not doing so well
Pewds is that you?
Don't forget to water him too
Me, who doesn't even own a green screen: yes... give me the information...
I can't use green screen because I'm green myself.
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@@tiihtu2507 no me I'm a green ogre
Umm, _ackchyually,_ you don't even have to own a physical greenscreen for the info about it to be useful. If you use footage made by someone else, you can cut out object frame by frame, and place them on a greenscreen for pre-rendering - TH-cam poopers do that all the time (not only them, other video editors also use it, but they most notably).
In fact, digital greenscreen (which is just an image of the very bright, specific shade of green) and the "chroma keyer" tool are one of the most used video effects by editors.
Why would a Duck own a green screen anyway? Also you can have these breadcrumbs that are at the bottom of my pocket
Id like to mention Captain Disillusion. His green screen abilities are phenomenal
I feel like this should be in a collection of videos as a resource for TH-cam content creators. Short, informative, vivid, honest. Your script writer(s) and editing team do an excellent job.
Any American popular video does.
I'm sure graphics-heavy productions will return at some point! Just, hopefully, not for a while. And thanks to CuriosityStream for continuing to sponsor! Just $2.99 will get you access to them, and to Nebula and my original series: curiositystream.com/tomscott
Tom Scott cool
How is this from 2 weeks before the vid?
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How to recognize a Video from Tom Scott
1. *_Comment older than the video aka being a time traveller_*
2. *_Red T-Shirts_*
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I wish there was more of the Money show on Nebula. I had already watched it before seeing it (also watching/listening to Lateral and other of your shows), and when I saw this I thought for a second that I wasn't super late to seeing this video and that maybe there might be more Money that I hadn't already seen. Please keep making game shows. They're so much more thoughtful and interesting than the typical game show, and I love game shows in general, so they're the cream of the crop to me.
Filming tip: If you don't have a green screen, film on a blue screen and then replace the background with green.
Or just leave it blue... it works the same (with most programs) but with a different colour
@@Henry-fu2hc Whoosh 🤣🤣🤣
its true, i mean if the sky is clear u could somehow use it as the bluescreen
A reason why I know blue is one of the colours that work great: a specific shade of light blue pen/pencils are used by people who animate and also those who scans their sketches - the colour of that blue is easy for programs to not recognise, and therefore, the outline is more clean
@@slm60uk Whooosh you a s s
Nooooo, flipping the road scene so the Americans don't notice the car on the other side of the road 😂, you are too smart
I'm still puzzled by that! My best guess is that they didn't have suitable footage, so flipped the shot.
My guess would be that Tom prefers to be on the left side or the middle, and that shot works much better flipped so he's not going straight through a car, or jumping from one side of the screen to the other.
@@Xentillus I'd lay good odds that it's all these things, and some that haven't been thought of, just to mess with the viewers.
I thought something looked wrong but couldn't put my finger on it.
The fact that the signs said “YAW ƎVIӘ” didn’t tip you off?
One of the best videos I've seen. Short. Precise. Logical. Thorough. Entertaining. Well done!
Remember guys: Love with your heart; use your head for everything else.
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I always seem to focus on the outline of the person when they are using a green screen.
The edges just look weird to me.
This can be countered if you use a dark grey screen / Black screen, as the colour doesn't bleed into the edges of the subject, so the edges can be left more natural looking without having to desaturate them. It all depends on the colour of the subject in question.. Green screen is not the only option, and may not be the best choice for your subject. If you can use one, a black screen will give much better results.
@@TheMcal9909 You've got to be joking.. Black screen is not a thing. Blue screen is and fixes most of the problems the green screen has when shooting scenes that are supposed to be in dark areas. But i do repeat: black screen is not a thing.
This is a better and more informative green screen video than any actual green screen tutorial that I've ever seen. Kudos to you.
*Tom gives his notes to his animator*
"YOU WANT ME TO DO WHAT?"
Alternate title : Tom Scotts editor flexing his skill for 5 minutes
Stolen comment but okay
Our comment
Not sure why, but there's something so carnally satisfying to hear Tom refer to the main characters of Big Band Theory as "this guy" and "that guy"
2:13 Also, make sure the green screen image isn't mirrored.
Why are you so far down here?
@@DJTrainBrain Probably because I make too many comments about the TH-cam view counting algorithm.
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Because in my country we drive on the right, I didn't even notice, but yup, it's mirrored
Now I want to see the opposite: don't film in front of a green screen but make it look like it was
That could even be harder.
But then again i have never edited videos or pictures.
This is honestly just a really good tutorial for green screening, although it don’t touch on actual techniques it makes it clear what to avoid
That explanation of why indoor shots have more motion blur than outdoor ones was genuinely one of the best explained things I've ever seen, and it was also cool as hell. Love this vid. Great work as always
I'm reminded of Captain Disillusion explaining this as Tom Scott.
and you can see, my trademark red shirt is in fact, soft pink
Oh same... This is second time
*light pink
One take! HAHA
The solution, of course, is an algorithm
Tom Scott: makes video about green screen
Captain Disillusion: has already made a Tom Scott video about green screens
Is there a link to this? It's been mentioned a few times but I don't remember it and can't find it.
@@koberulz "Chinese Invisibility Cloak Hoax DESTROYED!!!
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Is this just Captain Disillusion cosplaying as Tom Scott again?
He could talk about the challenges people had with BLUE screen in the old film days (such as TOS.) Imagine printing green separation positives and red separation negatives and compositing them in an optical printer, all with film.
Is it just me or at 4:10 when transitioning to the space background Tom's voice changes a bit to simulate using a helmet on space, it immediately goes back to normal... probably a dropped idea that still got to the final video.
Still props to the animator, really good job.
The Guardians effect at 3:45 is called a "dolly zoom" in case you're interested. The name is a reference to the rail system you need for the camera to do it. It's unsettling but not overly dizzying so, used right, it can draw more emotion out of a scene and get across that the character is shocked. The next time you watch Jaws, look out for it.
Why did I read the title as “Why You Can Spot Bad Screen Green”
Another simple problem with green screen
People sit too close to the green screen and when lighting themselves the green screen itself reflects some of the green light back in to them screwing with the keying.
I was catching this effect in Star Wars EP2 when Obi Wan in his fighter chasing Fett. I felt a bit dissapointed.
We had this problem sometimes doing a news segment at school. It also tended to mess up levels because blacks would never look quite right. White clothes were highly discouraged.
It's weird not hearing in the begining "CAPTAIINNN DISILLUSION HERE!"
Greetings, children…
Captain D's "Chinese Invisibility Cloak Hoax DESTROYED!!!" is the best video on green screens I have seen
Another basic tip I learned the hard way long long ago: Never use lossy compression, keep the original videos in raw or use a lossless codec.
1:19 I thought my screen was shutting down
Same
same bruh
For the show, aside from the lighting on the actors not showing up on the wall, and the dodgy drop shadow, there's also the issue of the wall no shadowing the actors. Conan is lit from behind him from an upper left direction. But there's just a wall there. He's got an impossible rimlight. I really wonder why they didn't just get a piece of wood in front of the actors. Even if they didn't have them in the same location, if you keep the lighting consistant and the pieces of wood are similar enough you could stitch those two pieces together and have it look like they're in front of a wall. It couldn't look much less elevatory than this.
2:14 fun fact: the background footage is mirrored, registration sign on car and text Give way are not readable.
Not to mention driving on the right in what is clearly England :)
Audio is also important, when the background is outsid but it sounds like you're in a room, it also feels wrong.
*His videos always make me intrigued in what he's explaining.*
There is a nice sense of one-on-one, simple explanations, and thought-provoking concepts that we take for granted explained in a way that makes you want to go explain it to others.
Major kudos to your video editor on this. It is a tour de force of video editing work.
I would’ve never even though about using the same camera, makes sense.
0:45 Tom Scott performing the famous Touhou song Bad Apple, 2020 colourised.
Okay now this is really interesting and may come in handy some day! Massive props to that editor of yours.
That’s really cool I didn’t know why green screens looked wrong sometimes even when I knew they did.
coming next: led walls w/ unreal engine - no more green screens
That's so strange I was just looking for a comment to piggyback this on to. After watching this, I got recommended the led wall mandalorian vid which was, for want of a better word... Unreal
This is probably why many productions have simply stopped using green screens and simply have overworked vfx artists keying out everything manually
That only really fixes the keying tho, everything else can still happen
All of The Big Bang Theory was filmed in front of a live audience so it makes perfect sense that they used green screens instead of moving around.
daughter in theaters with live audience they usually use a big poster backdrop with a picture or realistic painting. Could this also have been used instead of a greenscreen for tbbt ? I cant tell...
@@Keneo1 probably would have looked worse than the green screen in that scene but yes, they also used paintings for backgrounds and windows and stuff.
This is why those LED screens studios used in The Mandalorian are really interesting. It avoids some of the issues of green screens.
Hopefully you gave your hard-working animator a goddamn raise for this one, Tom!
Tom Scott has taught me more useful information in my entire life than school
Same with educational videos on TH-cam XD
That’s just TH-cam in general for me.
Your Animator is a god for doing all that!
That takes either passion or a lot of money!
OK, thanks for talking us through this, Tom. It was interesting, but your animator did a really amazing job buzzing us through all of these changes. That was really cool, and I'm sure it took hours of work.
The long awaited sequel to Tom's Captain Disillusion appearance
how in 5 minutes you can go from knowing nothing in picking apart green screen to being a green screen curator who can list about 5 reasons on the spot of why it is a bad green screen edit.
It's a lot easier to spot the problems than it is to know how to fix them, especially if you're working with footage that can't be reshot, like in film or TV.
The editor is insane😂. his explanations are too accurate
*Effect at **3:42** is known as "dolly zoom", you know if you guys are interested.*
I've always heard it called the Vertigo effect! But no matter what people call it, it's one of my favourite filmmaking tricks. Seeing either the background get close to them or far away from them, it always has a great eerie unsettling effect.
I can’t watch this without thinking about Captain Disillusion’s impersonation of you.
The person who edited this deserves a cookie