I was on the beta team, I'll have to look over what "official" builds were given out during the beta phase. There was also a lengthy release candidate phase that you skipped. My vague recollection is that Microsoft would seed different builds among testers. I don't recall getting a RC3 CD for example. Regarding Web TV For Windows. I owned the lone capture card that was supported during beta, the original ATI All-in-Wonder. It never worked right, and other testers had the same results. MS put a TON of resources behind developing and having it beta tested. It was a bloated buggy mess that Microsoft eventually shelved as it was clearly not going to work. I remember rosy predictions from people backing the likes of WaveTop about a market for selling VBI space for datacasting use. Yeah, that didn't work out.
The single-click mode shown in 5:31 is actually available in Windows 98 and above, but it needs to be enabled from the Explorer settings (in Win98 at least it can be changed from Folder Options > General > Web style, or General > Custom > Settings... > Click items as follows).
@@l3p3 I didn't, I had remembered seeing one teacher's computer looking like that back in the day and they were like "IDK how to turn it off" so I vaguely recalled seeing it, looked down to the comments when I saw it in a beta in this video, and was thankful that she hadn't somehow been using a beta version this whole time.
@@Khyree_Holmes To further complicate things: Later OEM versions of Win95 also acted as prototypes to Win98. Win95C (officially known as Win95 OSR 2.5) which I believe was released in 1997, had a lot more in common with Win98 than the original retail version of Win95.
Something many people don't know is that Windows 98's UI changes were actually developed by the Internet Explorer team as part of IE 4 and then ported over. This was referred to as Shell UI and Active Desktop, and was my first product in the 20 years I spent working at Microsoft. I also got such a kick out of seeing the comma splice I filed a bug on at 12:04 (in the lower left corner). Believe it or not, correcting their grammar ruffled some feathers, but at least they fixed it. If only they had fixed the Earth turning backward in IE 5.0 Setup when I filed that bug, we could have saved some public embarrassment. All they had to do was reverse the order of the frames in the animated GIF, but the PM felt it was too late to take on a potentially "destabilizing" fix, and that no one would notice anyway. smh
Being a kid who went from windows 95 to 98. If only the internet was more open back then I would wish I had known so much behind the scenes. Years later I now know XD Funny how that works.
4:44 Go to View to bring up tool bar and "address bar" and folder options to set all folders to be opened in single windows! Windows 95 have those features and I do not know why they are not enabled by default !
To think the "Show desktop button" could have been implemented as early as Win 98!!! It would have been SO useful. I use it all the time and it was truly missing back then.
I really love the Second Edition better than the first edition Michael. Keep up the good work. In the next few months, I am going to start a new tech series for Tech Monday.
Hey man, been subscribed for a while now, love the coverage of various OS's and software, feels like I'm going back in time lol, keep up the good work dude !
I still don't get why there's so much hate for Windows 10 (aside from Windows Update which I totally understand but that's just a piece of the pie). I mean, it works well for me. Update is just the shitty thing but other than that it's a good one. Unless I'm missing something.
Okay I’m sorry to burst your bubble man but that’s biased as fuck lol. I’ve used Windows 98 am absolute fuck ton and there’s definitely a reason why I use Windows 10 for daily use. 98s UI consists of a literal rubbish bin compared to modern Windows.
I regularly watch these on my smart TV, so I can't post comments there. Just let me say, I love this kind of videos, in which you look into the development history of a major Windows release without getting too technical o the issue.
Great trip through childhood nostalgia! Another chance to forget common things in 10 that weren't always there, which is entertaining knowledge worth having. Cheers!
Yeah,everything needs testing,since they reverted once maybe the design were not fit in IE4 Developer days,and probably the develop team didn't have new design yet so they just use the IE4 Desktop Update design but changes some function like using IE you open up File Explorer which doesn't do in final version(but you can do it manually).
I always thought that this was basically their trial run for these features, to see how users would like them. If I remember correctly the one-click-open feature was enabled by default in the IE4 update (to make everything more web-like), but not in 98. Maybe it wasn't well received.
It's not an operating environment as it can boot without any other OS to be booted by the user first. (It boots DOS in the background and then becomes independent once it starts)
@@QuantumScratcher While yes the user does not need to start DOS 7 themselves, the Windows 98 environment cannot operate without DOS 7. If you remove the Windows directory entirely, the machine would still function under DOS 7 (hence Restart in MS-DOS Mode in the Shutdown Menu). But if you removed DOS 7 the machine won't boot. The Primary Partition is DOS with Windows 98 laying on top of it. That is different to the NT side, because NT is the actual Windows Operating System not DOS.
Windows 98/SE will ALWAYS be for me the ultimate best operating system to come from Microsoft. I still have an old 98 system and I use 98 in a vm. I still remember all the great unsupported updates, fixes, additions, etc. that came out for it when 98 was going EOL. I will never stop wondering why Windows XP, and now even 7 never seemed to get the same attention when it hit the EOL. Thanks for another great video.
WOW! To think that my hometown was actually used as the code name for one of the most liked operating systems in the mid to last ’90s and I only able two years old when it released too! THAT IS SO DANG AWESOME!😃
Thanks for the great video! Microsoft went all-in on the Web design with the blue hyperlink for icons and the single click in the second build. Never knew that because it was reverted. Also, foreshadow to the Show Desktop and the Settings + Control Panel we have since Windows 8. Michael, could you check if the third build is a reset build like what happened with Longhorn? Or was it a continuation of the second build with the features removed? Also, is it possible that those features are just locked in the 3rd build and require something like Redlock?
"My" first PC ran Windows 98. My older brother got it as a present from our grandparents, it was the family's first computer. I was 5 years old at the time and it probably sparked the fascination for tech in me. Today I work in software development. My grandparents are long dead by now. They never used computers in their lives. But they apparently understood it enough to realize that this was a tool that would matter in the future. My brother hadn't asked for a computer. I never thought about how much this investment into a computer has probably affected my life. Who would have thought back in 1999 in the store?
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I find it interesting that these older versions of Windows are still floating around out there in the ether. When I was in my early teens, when internet access was at a major premium, and people were still charged by the hour, it was common for us to utilize local BBS' in order to more openly communicate with one another, share files, games, etc. One of the local BBS' had a, for the time, major repository of software. It was common practice that if you wanted to download content, that you should rip your own games, and upload them back to the BBS to share with others. This particular BBS was simply known as 'KABOOM', and they had a copy of Windows that was referred to at the time as 'Windows 96 Memphis". Looking back now it was definitely an early alpha or beta of Windows 98. I downloaded it at one point and made the necessary efforts to make it installable, but it was very unstable on my system and would crash during setup. I can't recall what the issues were - as this was ages ago, but it I do remember spending a very, very long time licking my PC's wounds reformatting and re-installing Windows95, plus all the gobbledygook that went with it (PCs used to include a ridiculous number of software packages back then). We didn't know much about it though, what the story was, what the differences were (This was before 98, so it'd be a couple more years before we found out), we all just thought Microsoft had some kind of super secret "Windows96" that wasn't available to the pubic.
Even the earliest Windows 95 releases had address bars (View->Toolbar/Adressbar) and weren't very different to the one in Windows98. Also open in a single window was an option in 95 (that could be set in the view menu). I believe (but I haven't checked yet) one click opening was also an optional thing from the very first 95 commercial releases.
Would've been great to have the "Welcome to Windows 98" music play as your outro to this video as that was thumping. Shame it only lasted around 10 seconds though I do understand it's shortness, Windows only allowed short audio files to play for Windows events. But then again I wonder if it would've incurred the wrath of the TH-cam algorithm and gotten this video a copyright strike.
The last “best” Windows ever made was XP. After that it was annoyance after annoyance taking away things I used a lot, constant error messages and harder to use ms-dos on the fly.
Ah, windows 98. I was on the beta for this from beta 2 (I think). It was always fun to get a package from overseas with another disk. I ended up with enough CDs to make up the complete Windows logo on my wall (each CD had part of the logo)
Yikes! I thought I had gotten references to ME out of my head. By the time ME came out, I had about 7 or 8 computers running on my home network. The next machine I bought (a high end Dell notebook) had ME on it. When I plugged it in and connected it to my network, it was basically running as hard as it could but it was extremely slow. I'd press a key and it would take 3 to 4 seconds to register. It took me a couple of days to figure out, ME was trying to index everything on my network, and with that many computers the indexing was eating up all the resources the machine had. Apparently, indexing was set with a very high priority. When I finally realized what was going on, I temporally disconnected it from the network so I had some control of the machine, turned off indexing, reconnected to the network, then the machine ran pretty good. But I refused to buy another machine with ME on it.
Tug And Thug Computing it was present in every release yes, but what Michael is saying is that only recently, with the release of Windows 7 it moved from the Quick Launch menu over to the right hand side of the taskbar.
Awesome video! Now I'd like you to focus on Windows Me, if you could. It actually has a nice development history of its own... You may have touched on some of it in other videos you did.
15:46 Ah - that's the look of Windows Explorer if you have a clean 95A installation and install the full Internet Explorer 4.0 suite, I think they had it listed as "Desktop Enhancements" or "Desktop Upgrade" as a component. I think Windows 95C has that look by default as well.
I have video idea if you want to hear it. Ten changes in each window relese. Show the ten most important new things in win 1 - then ten most important new things in win 2 - ten most important new things in win 3 .... you get the idea just show the full history of changes in windows, maybe start with DOS.
At around 13:00, I noticed that you didn't install at least graphics and sound drivers. I've a feeling build 1596 was a test or an experimental build, but around the time they were finalising Internet Explorer 4 for Windows 95, and Windows 95 OSR 2.5 "C", which I believe was released only to manufacturers as a holdover before Windows 98 was released. 10:47 "Microsoft Internet Explorer Suite" Seems as though Microsoft were trying out a "Netscape Communicator" kind of thing there. I've a feeling build 1351 was around the time they merged Windows 95 and Plus for Win95 together, and then 1415 would be around the time they merged in code from their cancelled "Nashville" project. Both Nashville and Memphis are towns in Tennessee, so that naming convention would make sense. Then, with build 1511, they likely would've already removed quite a bit of "Nashville" code for features they found to not really work for users then. 9:58 Most likely a newer version of the MSN Internet Access client that was probably shipped to subscribers around the time on floppy disks and/or through the dial-up connection itself. 18:32 Dell, around that time, offered customers the choice of Windows 98, NT 4, or 95, at least on Dimension XPS and Latitude models.
Hey micheal, do you remember what song you used in the 1st few seconds of the video? Anyway, regarding the video itself, you don't really realize the work that goes into making a product such as an os until videos like this are made. Edit: ok, with the song, i do think i heard it on a few video's as background music, but haven't heard it for a while.
Ahh the golden age for me. I had so much fun with this version. I’ve been an IT Professional for the past 20 years, likely because I got the bug when I ‘hacked’ my way around the parental controls for ‘Compuserve’. The feeling of power I got from bypassing my Dads feeble attempts at limiting our access to the dreadful 56k, which mostly connected at 28k at the time. I spent so much time in encyclopedia Britannica, Roger Wilco and Delta Force 1. Ahhhh the nostalgia!
YES! history videos are my favourite (just about) My favourite is the windows 98 PC when you install OSes in it I have a suggestion can you install a very slimmed down version of Windows 10 or 8?
Way back when I got my hands on build 1351 shortly after it was released and tried it out. It did not go well! The PC I was using had an AMD 5x86 (which was just a high clocked 486 chip) 133 mhz CPU running at 120 mhz (due to my PC's MB being from early 1992!) and only 12 MB of RAM. That Memphis beta would boot but was unbelievably slow, even compared to plain old Windows 95! Speaking of Win95. I got my hands on build 357 of Win 95 in March or April of 1995 and used it as my main OS for almost a year before "upgrading" to the retail version of Win 95. Even compared to the retail build of Win 95, that earlier beta build was quite good and ran fast since it didn't have some of the stuff later added to the "official" release of the OS.
Can you make a slideshow of the screenshots from the faces of Windows from 3 up to the latest build of Windows 10? As a transition video to let us see how Windows changes over time? As a summary of all the history developments of the OS versions. I watched it all and it is so great. Thanks!
I never was a fan of the show desktop button. I prefer having it in the quick launch. I still use it on 7, 8 and 10. The icons aren't as stretched out as much.
So both the show desktop button and the streamlined control settings from Windows 10, were already a thing in 1996 ? So it's not only Nintendo the one that never throws anything away and reuses old ideas decades later...
Fun fact: the exact Windows Explorer description pane in build 1593 could be installed in Windows 95 or Windows NT 4.0 if IE4 - IE5.5 SP2 with active desktop components (Windows Desktop Update) was installed onto the OS. Coincidentally enough, this package was also created in 1997. It also updated the explorer executable to include the quick launch bar. You can actually make Windows 95 function very closely to Windows 98 first edition by installing Windows 95 B/OSR 2.1 or C/OSR 2.5, which includes FAT32 and USB support (but not USB PnP) and the Windows Desktop Update package built into the IE installer. There are generic USB drivers that exist to create an almost-PnP experience for USB in Windows 95. I've done it before.
I was on the beta team, I'll have to look over what "official" builds were given out during the beta phase. There was also a lengthy release candidate phase that you skipped. My vague recollection is that Microsoft would seed different builds among testers. I don't recall getting a RC3 CD for example.
Regarding Web TV For Windows. I owned the lone capture card that was supported during beta, the original ATI All-in-Wonder. It never worked right, and other testers had the same results. MS put a TON of resources behind developing and having it beta tested. It was a bloated buggy mess that Microsoft eventually shelved as it was clearly not going to work. I remember rosy predictions from people backing the likes of WaveTop about a market for selling VBI space for datacasting use. Yeah, that didn't work out.
it's cool seeing you here.
Yeah, right
@Gill Bates "no way he was on the beta team because this is internet and nobody here has a fucking job"
@@micefort lmao
Panda panda windows 10
I will never forget this OS and that BSOD during Bill Gates presentation... 👌😎
"Probably that's why we're not shipping the OS just yet."
@@tristanraine Absolutely Absolutely
It's wasn't called plug-n-pray for no reason.
The "whoa" is a carbon copy of every time I've ran into a BSOD
Me: blue screens my computer
Computer: * blue screens *
The single-click mode shown in 5:31 is actually available in Windows 98 and above, but it needs to be enabled from the Explorer settings (in Win98 at least it can be changed from Folder Options > General > Web style, or General > Custom > Settings... > Click items as follows).
Is there anyone here who doesn't know that already?
@@l3p3 I didn't, I had remembered seeing one teacher's computer looking like that back in the day and they were like "IDK how to turn it off" so I vaguely recalled seeing it, looked down to the comments when I saw it in a beta in this video, and was thankful that she hadn't somehow been using a beta version this whole time.
That's also how KDE Plasma behaved years ago when I used it (don't know how it works today)
@@vurpo7080 by default it'll be double click
Just like in newer windows.
10:42 "Created: Monday, January 01, 1601"
And people say the Dark Ages were good for nothing
"this is a title"
I guess it is like that because the milisecond time style starts with 1 in 1601 and goes from there
@@JamesWeetman yeah as if he really meant it
Gettysburg bible is first printed book
This is a title: excuse me
@@franoneninenine1209 i think you mean gutenberg
This one has to be the most confusing Windows development history yet.
9:49 - I was so confused, "why would you regress?"
@@Khyree_Holmes To further complicate things: Later OEM versions of Win95 also acted as prototypes to Win98. Win95C (officially known as Win95 OSR 2.5) which I believe was released in 1997, had a lot more in common with Win98 than the original retail version of Win95.
@@GTXDash Incidentally, bootleg copies of Windows 95 OSR2 where sold as "Windows 97", at least in my country. I was very confused for a long time.
¿Why Windows 95C is even a thing?, when it has a lot of Windows 98 features in it anyways!
@@GTXDash A lot of OSR builds call themselves Memphis actually.
I could imagine they got rid of the scrolling text during setup because of improper scaling between resolutions or something small like that
Something many people don't know is that Windows 98's UI changes were actually developed by the Internet Explorer team as part of IE 4 and then ported over. This was referred to as Shell UI and Active Desktop, and was my first product in the 20 years I spent working at Microsoft. I also got such a kick out of seeing the comma splice I filed a bug on at 12:04 (in the lower left corner). Believe it or not, correcting their grammar ruffled some feathers, but at least they fixed it. If only they had fixed the Earth turning backward in IE 5.0 Setup when I filed that bug, we could have saved some public embarrassment. All they had to do was reverse the order of the frames in the animated GIF, but the PM felt it was too late to take on a potentially "destabilizing" fix, and that no one would notice anyway. smh
You can see their fixed text at 14:49.
Being a kid who went from windows 95 to 98. If only the internet was more open back then I would wish I had known so much behind the scenes. Years later I now know XD Funny how that works.
Another Windows development video! Love it!
Thankyou so much, MajorSky17!
There's this dry cleaning place out by me which has computers that still run to this Day Windows 98, it was an amazing sight.
Holy cow, the production quality of these history videos just keeps going up and up!! 😁 Keep up the good work MJD!
Thanks so much! I appreciate it : )
12:38 "Register your copy of Memphis now, and enjoy the benefits of being a registered Window user."
Ah yes, it's very good to be a Window user
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
(It's just really funny. Sorry for spamming emojis.)
I'm a Wall user, is that a good thing?
I know this is old, but is it a good thing to be a Celling user?
@@some1-1038 eh, why not
I love the music that Michael uses for his history & retrospective videos.
Thank you for walking us through Memphis.
You’re welcome!
Mr. MJD, The next is Development of Windows 2000.
That one I really wanna see. My favourite ever OS
Or ME
Yes you missed windows 2000
+1
ie NT 5.0 in disguise
Some builds of Windows Memphis have the taskbar identical to Windows 7.
If you installed IE4 Developer Preview on Windows 95 you would get the same thing
Hahaha
@@linglin92 yep
4:44 Go to View to bring up tool bar and "address bar" and folder options to set all folders to be opened in single windows! Windows 95 have those features and I do not know why they are not enabled by default !
They were mimicking MacOS which always had one window per folder
@@chroma.z And Amega / GEM which actually had more market share at the time and was stolen from xerox.
Glad to see you return to Windows Betas. These are my favorite videos of yours.
To think the "Show desktop button" could have been implemented as early as Win 98!!! It would have been SO useful. I use it all the time and it was truly missing back then.
Loving these OS development videos. Keep up the great content.
Glad to hear it!
@@MichaelMJDhi.
Realy enjoy the Windows development history videos. Keep up the great work.
Thanks, will do! : )
I'm a simple man. I see a new Michael MJD video, I click it.
I really love the Second Edition better than the first edition Michael. Keep up the good work. In the next few months, I am going to start a new tech series for Tech Monday.
Awesome video,Michael!
this is just so nostalgic to me since my first experiences on a computer were on Windows98. My family got a new home computer just before XP came out
Hey man, been subscribed for a while now, love the coverage of various OS's and software, feels like I'm going back in time lol, keep up the good work dude !
Thanks so much! Will do : )
It amazes me why Windows never shipped with a copy of Basic that you could use as a starting point...
It was already included with DOS.
Qbasic was still there.
It was included on Windows CD under the folder for old DOS tools (even Windows ME had it).
Interestingly enough, the settings wizard looks like the windows settings layout of windows 10.
where?
timestamp please
@@ShiroCh_ID 19:59
a real timestamp?
@@shadept 8:40
Ah, the memories-
Wait, im still here. Im alive!
Hello, Windows 98
I was have a virtual machine about Windows 9x!
another one of these accounts dear god
@@Fowlware ikr
Even though windows 98 is outdated today, Windows 98 is still better than windows 10 in design and features.
Yea, like it's got a bad 3d engine, built for older pc's, runs on DOS and USESS DIALUP. Totally out of date and windows 10 is BETTER
I still don't get why there's so much hate for Windows 10 (aside from Windows Update which I totally understand but that's just a piece of the pie). I mean, it works well for me. Update is just the shitty thing but other than that it's a good one.
Unless I'm missing something.
@@multiverseone8115 what
@@multiverseone8115 what 3d engine
Okay I’m sorry to burst your bubble man but that’s biased as fuck lol. I’ve used Windows 98 am absolute fuck ton and there’s definitely a reason why I use Windows 10 for daily use. 98s UI consists of a literal rubbish bin compared to modern Windows.
History of MS-DOS development please.
User I don’t think so
@@EneaX6 I find this reply hilarious and I don't know why
depends on which version-
If its DOS 1.0 it wouldnt be Microsoft since Microsoft bought DOS from IBM and renamed it to MS-DOS sometime after DOS 1.0
@@zank8470 no ms bought it from some random guy off the streets
Great video. I feel like this one and a lot of your recent videos have been big improvements in terms of production and scripting.
Thanks so much!
Unfortunately, this one suffers from factual errors. He should have played around a bit with Windows95 before doing this.
@@petergarami8504 well don't leave us in suspense. Errors such as?
Me: Hey, that's World of Warcraft!
Michael: No, that's not World of Warcraft.
Me: ok, sorry for being stupid I guess
@AThePetrov What Lmao
Now I'm really get pissed off with the blue and a gold "W" thing, which refers to World of Warcraft.
Surprised second edition is not a part of this one, part two material?
So that's where the mid-96-98 Never-released backgrounds came from.
I regularly watch these on my smart TV, so I can't post comments there. Just let me say, I love this kind of videos, in which you look into the development history of a major Windows release without getting too technical o the issue.
You're on a roll with these awesome videos. Keep it up ♥
Your videos are always so interesting. Thank you for the effort you put in those. It's really cool to see the development history of Windows OSes!
Great trip through childhood nostalgia! Another chance to forget common things in 10 that weren't always there, which is entertaining knowledge worth having. Cheers!
You beta tested operating systems as a child? Dam bro, u gots skillz
15:47 That design looks like the Windows Desktop Update that you optionally get when installing IE4 on Windows 95/NT 4.0.
Yeah,everything needs testing,since they reverted once maybe the design were not fit in IE4 Developer days,and probably the develop team didn't have new design yet so they just use the IE4 Desktop Update design but changes some function like using IE you open up File Explorer which doesn't do in final version(but you can do it manually).
I always thought that this was basically their trial run for these features, to see how users would like them. If I remember correctly the one-click-open feature was enabled by default in the IE4 update (to make everything more web-like), but not in 98. Maybe it wasn't well received.
I still have a special place in my heart for Windows 98 (98 SE to be exact). If Microsoft still supported the OE, I would still be using it.
It's not an operating environment as it can boot without any other OS to be booted by the user first. (It boots DOS in the background and then becomes independent once it starts)
@@QuantumScratcher While yes the user does not need to start DOS 7 themselves, the Windows 98 environment cannot operate without DOS 7. If you remove the Windows directory entirely, the machine would still function under DOS 7 (hence Restart in MS-DOS Mode in the Shutdown Menu). But if you removed DOS 7 the machine won't boot. The Primary Partition is DOS with Windows 98 laying on top of it.
That is different to the NT side, because NT is the actual Windows Operating System not DOS.
7:28 what is inside the "C_" folder?
Windows 98/SE will ALWAYS be for me the ultimate best operating system to come from Microsoft. I still have an old 98 system and I use 98 in a vm. I still remember all the great unsupported updates, fixes, additions, etc. that came out for it when 98 was going EOL. I will never stop wondering why Windows XP, and now even 7 never seemed to get the same attention when it hit the EOL. Thanks for another great video.
WOW! To think that my hometown was actually used as the code name for one of the most liked operating systems in the mid to last ’90s and I only able two years old when it released too! THAT IS SO DANG AWESOME!😃
Thanks for the great video! Microsoft went all-in on the Web design with the blue hyperlink for icons and the single click in the second build. Never knew that because it was reverted. Also, foreshadow to the Show Desktop and the Settings + Control Panel we have since Windows 8. Michael, could you check if the third build is a reset build like what happened with Longhorn? Or was it a continuation of the second build with the features removed? Also, is it possible that those features are just locked in the 3rd build and require something like Redlock?
"My" first PC ran Windows 98. My older brother got it as a present from our grandparents, it was the family's first computer. I was 5 years old at the time and it probably sparked the fascination for tech in me. Today I work in software development.
My grandparents are long dead by now. They never used computers in their lives. But they apparently understood it enough to realize that this was a tool that would matter in the future. My brother hadn't asked for a computer.
I never thought about how much this investment into a computer has probably affected my life. Who would have thought back in 1999 in the store?
I sometimes wonder if any of those features were actually *removed,* or if those were just _different development branches._
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yup! Today 5 May is the 21st anniversary of Windows 98's Second Edition
@5:30 you could enable the single click and folder backgrounds in the 98 release you just had to go into the settings.
And in fact, you can do this on all versions of Windows, up to Windows 10. It's disabled by default, but it's still there.
I find it interesting that these older versions of Windows are still floating around out there in the ether.
When I was in my early teens, when internet access was at a major premium, and people were still charged by the hour, it was common for us to utilize local BBS' in order to more openly communicate with one another, share files, games, etc.
One of the local BBS' had a, for the time, major repository of software. It was common practice that if you wanted to download content, that you should rip your own games, and upload them back to the BBS to share with others.
This particular BBS was simply known as 'KABOOM', and they had a copy of Windows that was referred to at the time as 'Windows 96 Memphis". Looking back now it was definitely an early alpha or beta of Windows 98. I downloaded it at one point and made the necessary efforts to make it installable, but it was very unstable on my system and would crash during setup.
I can't recall what the issues were - as this was ages ago, but it I do remember spending a very, very long time licking my PC's wounds reformatting and re-installing Windows95, plus all the gobbledygook that went with it (PCs used to include a ridiculous number of software packages back then).
We didn't know much about it though, what the story was, what the differences were (This was before 98, so it'd be a couple more years before we found out), we all just thought Microsoft had some kind of super secret "Windows96" that wasn't available to the pubic.
14:00 "The wizard itself looks just like the one in Windows 98..." 🧐
As much as it’s not a 98 build, I’m surprised that Windows Nashvile 999 wasn’t referenced anywhere before Memphis 1351.
That Windows Screensaver at the end, brought back Memories of rewriting the code to display many things other than the Window
I love your development history videos! Keep up the good work! You really deserve more subscribers!
Thanks! Glad you like them : )
Even the earliest Windows 95 releases had address bars (View->Toolbar/Adressbar) and weren't very different to the one in Windows98. Also open in a single window was an option in 95 (that could be set in the view menu). I believe (but I haven't checked yet) one click opening was also an optional thing from the very first 95 commercial releases.
i miss the jungle theme :(
First OS I ever used
Would've been great to have the "Welcome to Windows 98" music play as your outro to this video as that was thumping. Shame it only lasted around 10 seconds though I do understand it's shortness, Windows only allowed short audio files to play for Windows events. But then again I wonder if it would've incurred the wrath of the TH-cam algorithm and gotten this video a copyright strike.
The design of the folder view in 1593 is the same one you get if you install IE4 with the desktop update on Windows 95.
The last “best” Windows ever made was XP. After that it was annoyance after annoyance taking away things I used a lot, constant error messages and harder to use ms-dos on the fly.
Love it. Keep up the great work!
Thank you!
@@MichaelMJD Thanks for answering! You made my day.
Do Windows 95, it'd be interesting to see how the old design shifted into a taskbar and Start menu
I Love These Vids Of The History Of OS Development!
Ah, windows 98. I was on the beta for this from beta 2 (I think). It was always fun to get a package from overseas with another disk.
I ended up with enough CDs to make up the complete Windows logo on my wall (each CD had part of the logo)
I always liked Windows 98. Between that XP, and Windows 7 them were the best programs in my opinion
Pretty cool video, and nice intro tho ⚡️
Keep up the good work! How about some Windows NT history?
It's possible! I definitely want to do more of these videos
I was looking for this yesterday, only to realize that it was just released today
Time traveler eh?
Yikes! I thought I had gotten references to ME out of my head. By the time ME came out, I had about 7 or 8 computers running on my home network. The next machine I bought (a high end Dell notebook) had ME on it. When I plugged it in and connected it to my network, it was basically running as hard as it could but it was extremely slow. I'd press a key and it would take 3 to 4 seconds to register. It took me a couple of days to figure out, ME was trying to index everything on my network, and with that many computers the indexing was eating up all the resources the machine had. Apparently, indexing was set with a very high priority. When I finally realized what was going on, I temporally disconnected it from the network so I had some control of the machine, turned off indexing, reconnected to the network, then the machine ran pretty good. But I refused to buy another machine with ME on it.
Honestly, windows 98 SE and XP are still my favorite windows ever created.
ACPI is one of the best things in the computing world and it has changed it a lot
Tug And Thug Computing it was present in every release yes, but what Michael is saying is that only recently, with the release of Windows 7 it moved from the Quick Launch menu over to the right hand side of the taskbar.
@@KamilOchel I think you're replying to the wrong comment.
Yay! Pls do more videos like this!
Will do!
Awesome video! Now I'd like you to focus on Windows Me, if you could. It actually has a nice development history of its own... You may have touched on some of it in other videos you did.
The quality which we all need but do not deserve :)
15:46 Ah - that's the look of Windows Explorer if you have a clean 95A installation and install the full Internet Explorer 4.0 suite, I think they had it listed as "Desktop Enhancements" or "Desktop Upgrade" as a component. I think Windows 95C has that look by default as well.
I have video idea if you want to hear it.
Ten changes in each window relese.
Show the ten most important new things in win 1 - then ten most important new things in win 2 - ten most important new things in win 3 .... you get the idea just show the full history of changes in windows, maybe start with DOS.
i remember testing out build 1511 on Virtualbox back in April. i can't wait to test out build 1415 one of these days!
Single-click to open was actually included for Windows for a long time (dunno if it still is) but it was not enabled by default.
Win98 still looks sexy to me. Probably like nostalgia for an old girlfriend who is also 22 years older than when you last saw her.
What
At around 13:00, I noticed that you didn't install at least graphics and sound drivers.
I've a feeling build 1596 was a test or an experimental build, but around the time they were finalising Internet Explorer 4 for Windows 95, and Windows 95 OSR 2.5 "C", which I believe was released only to manufacturers as a holdover before Windows 98 was released.
10:47 "Microsoft Internet Explorer Suite"
Seems as though Microsoft were trying out a "Netscape Communicator" kind of thing there.
I've a feeling build 1351 was around the time they merged Windows 95 and Plus for Win95 together, and then 1415 would be around the time they merged in code from their cancelled "Nashville" project. Both Nashville and Memphis are towns in Tennessee, so that naming convention would make sense. Then, with build 1511, they likely would've already removed quite a bit of "Nashville" code for features they found to not really work for users then.
9:58 Most likely a newer version of the MSN Internet Access client that was probably shipped to subscribers around the time on floppy disks and/or through the dial-up connection itself.
18:32 Dell, around that time, offered customers the choice of Windows 98, NT 4, or 95, at least on Dimension XPS and Latitude models.
5:48 black gradient title bar, desktop near clock will be introduces at windows 7
9:51 gradient title bar with 16 colors
I remember installing Win 98 and turning off all that internet and network components because I just didn't know what internet is :-D
Hey micheal, do you remember what song you used in the 1st few seconds of the video? Anyway, regarding the video itself, you don't really realize the work that goes into making a product such as an os until videos like this are made. Edit: ok, with the song, i do think i heard it on a few video's as background music, but haven't heard it for a while.
Ahh the golden age for me. I had so much fun with this version. I’ve been an IT Professional for the past 20 years, likely because I got the bug when I ‘hacked’ my way around the parental controls for ‘Compuserve’. The feeling of power I got from bypassing my Dads feeble attempts at limiting our access to the dreadful 56k, which mostly connected at 28k at the time. I spent so much time in encyclopedia Britannica, Roger Wilco and Delta Force 1. Ahhhh the nostalgia!
YES! history videos are my favourite (just about)
My favourite is the windows 98 PC when you install OSes in it
I have a suggestion can you install a very slimmed down version of Windows 10 or 8?
Way back when I got my hands on build 1351 shortly after it was released and tried it out. It did not go well! The PC I was using had an AMD 5x86 (which was just a high clocked 486 chip) 133 mhz CPU running at 120 mhz (due to my PC's MB being from early 1992!) and only 12 MB of RAM. That Memphis beta would boot but was unbelievably slow, even compared to plain old Windows 95!
Speaking of Win95. I got my hands on build 357 of Win 95 in March or April of 1995 and used it as my main OS for almost a year before "upgrading" to the retail version of Win 95. Even compared to the retail build of Win 95, that earlier beta build was quite good and ran fast since it didn't have some of the stuff later added to the "official" release of the OS.
The Welcome To Windows 98 song is forever ingrained in my brain
Can you make a slideshow of the screenshots from the faces of Windows from 3 up to the latest build of Windows 10? As a transition video to let us see how Windows changes over time? As a summary of all the history developments of the OS versions. I watched it all and it is so great. Thanks!
Thanks for making windows 98 Development please also make a video on windows 10 development (also the video was nice)
Thank you for the history of my favorite OS in the world
I never was a fan of the show desktop button. I prefer having it in the quick launch. I still use it on 7, 8 and 10. The icons aren't as stretched out as much.
I recently discovered your channel and enjoy it, and now even a new video! Great job, keep up the good work. Excited to see more:)
For anyone who's thinking about the Show Desktop shortcut in Quick Launch, no, it's not a hardcoded button.
Hyperlink icons were still in the system. As option. I can't remember if in 98 final release, but ME had it 100%
So both the show desktop button and the streamlined control settings from Windows 10, were already a thing in 1996 ?
So it's not only Nintendo the one that never throws anything away and reuses old ideas decades later...
I am currently on hold of the CD-OS build Bkuesky (previously Sandstone) version 0.9, the official release is planned on this weekend
Fun fact: the exact Windows Explorer description pane in build 1593 could be installed in Windows 95 or Windows NT 4.0 if IE4 - IE5.5 SP2 with active desktop components (Windows Desktop Update) was installed onto the OS. Coincidentally enough, this package was also created in 1997. It also updated the explorer executable to include the quick launch bar. You can actually make Windows 95 function very closely to Windows 98 first edition by installing Windows 95 B/OSR 2.1 or C/OSR 2.5, which includes FAT32 and USB support (but not USB PnP) and the Windows Desktop Update package built into the IE installer. There are generic USB drivers that exist to create an almost-PnP experience for USB in Windows 95. I've done it before.
Wow the screen on the windows 98’s box back looks so modern. PS I was born in 1998 (May).
Patrik Čech *shakes his walking stick at you!* 😂
I love this series. Thanks man. You are a blessing 🙏
My favorite OS of all time!