Makoto should have died when he sealed Nyx as you saw it used all his health, but the promise he made to his friends to meet up on graduation day made him hold out a little longer. As soon as everyone arrived at the roof is when Makoto passed away because his promise was finally fulfilled.
Persona 3's main theme is death and coping with it. Overcoming the terrible reality that nothing will last forever and eveyone will die someday. It only makes sense that the main character would die at the end. It's the perfect ending.
is not just that, don't treat it in a depressed way is not like "you'll die one day, and there's nothing you can do about it." is more like "you'll die one day, and there's nothing you can do about it, but you can try to enjoy every second of your life until this day come"
One of the things I always loved for this final chapter that doesn't get talked about enough is the relationship and payoff between Ryoji and Makoto. His emphasis on how scared he was that Makoto and his friends would spend their final days terrified and in despair, and yet when that moment actually came, Makoto gladly sacrificed himself, and he died with a smile on his face. Such fucking poetry.
From a young boy who was apathetic to life in the beginning of the game just going through the motions of life, to a young man who finally valued life again after forming unforgettable bonds with his friends and finally found his family again after losing his biological parents 10 years ago. Makoto Yuki, the young man who decided to do what was necessary to not only save the world, but give his new family a chance to live on and gave back to them what they gave to Makoto, the beauty of life. Farewell to the guest who found his own answer to life.
Yes, Makoto, the protagonist, dies there on the roof in Aigis arms. This is why I choose the romance Aigis option, as it all fits together perfectly. Spending his last moments with the one he loves. 🥺Also the Aigis romance scenes will have will have you in tears.
@@georgieegames Oh god if you don't plan to, give it a watch on youtube. SPOILER: Towards the end she asks Makoto to Touch her Heart, doing so leaves a permanent imprint of his DNA into her code, so a small piece of him remains within her forever. 😭😭
@@DandelionandBardock honestly, I believe that's why Aigis inherits the wild card. Makoto is heavily linked with blue butterflys especially when Aigis sees him after his journey. Yet she awakens to the wildcard when a blue butterfly lands in her hands.
It was such joy to witness your journey, P3 is definitely the single piece of media that tugs my heartstrings best. On another note, an interesting interview with Katsura Hashino, the original director for P3, says the rooftop scene is inspired by an intimate moment with his wife. Once he was so sick he thought he was going to die, never before had he really thought he would, but at the moment the gentle comfort of his wife made him thought "It might not be so bad to die like this".
Lyrics for the "Memories of You" sung from Aigis perspective at the end: EN: The voice of the wind and droplets of light flow over you as you doze I will never forget the gentle smile and the eyes you hid in sorrow You gave me the courage to wish (even when it hurts) and to fight, so I can go on In my dreams (even when I wake up) I will see you again I sing, with a distant memory in my heart You defended this fragile and fleeting world with your hands So please, fold your wings and rest Sheltered by an eternal peace, love through all eternity Rest now in my arms, as I watch over you As I recall your joy, your sorrow, and your rage I will remember you always, until my life is exhausted At an intersection, I heard a voice similar to yours I turned to look up at the sky, to force back my sudden tears I continue to walk alone, aimlessly, believing that I will see you again tomorrow (someday) Through rainy nights (and sunny days) I wait for you I'll never forget that dark night, we made it through That blindingly brilliant moment when we were all together Those precious times I didn't realize I should cherish Now all I can do is remember, I will embrace the feeling I know for a fact, you were there by my side You were always always always there, smiling If ever I lose you, I will find you, I will never leave you You defended this fragile and fleeting world with your hands So please, fold your wings and rest Sheltered by an eternal peace, love through all eternity Rest now in my arms, as I watch over you As I recall your joy, your sorrow, and your rage I will remember you always, until my life is exhausted That blindingly brilliant moment when we were all together Those precious times I didn't realize I should cherish Now all I can do is remember, I will embrace the feeling I know for a fact, you were there by my side You were always always always there, smiling If ever I lose you, I will find you, I will never leave you JP Romaji: [Verse 1] Kaze no koe hikari no tsubu Madoromu kimi ni sosogu Wasurenai yasashii hohoemi kanashi sa kakushita hitomi wo Negau koto tsurakute mo Tachimukau yuuki kimi moratta dakara iku ne Yume no naka mezametara mata aeru yo [Pre-Chorus] Tooi kioku mune ni hime utau [Chorus] Hakanaku tayutau sekai wo kimi no te de mamottakara Ima wa tada tsubasa wo tatande yukkuri nemuri nasai Eien no yasuragi ni tsutsumarete Love through all eternity Yasashiku mimamoru watashi no konote de nemuri nasai Waratteta nai teta okotteta kimi no koto oboete iru Wasurenai itsu made mo kesshite Until my life is exhausted [Verse 2] Kousaten kikoete kita kimi ni yoku nita koe Furimuite sora wo aogi miru Kobore souna namida koraete Ashita koso itsu no hi ka Mou ichido kimi ni aeru to shinji hitori mayoi Ame no yoru hareta asa machi tsuzukete See upcoming pop shows Get tickets for your favorite artists You might also like Fuel Eminem & JID Habits Eminem & White Gold キミの記憶 (Memories of You) -Reload- 高橋あず美 (Azumi Takahashi) [Pre-Chorus] Wasurenai yo kakenuketa yoru wo [Chorus] Mabayuku kagayaku hitotoki minna to isshodatta Kakegae no nai toki to shirazu ni watashi wa sugoshite ita Ima wa tada taisetsu ni shinobu you I will embrace the feeling Kimi wa ne tashika ni ano toki watashi no soba ni ita Itsu datte, itsu datte, itsu datte sugu yoko de waratte ita Nakushitemo torimodosu kimi wo I will never leave you [Instrumental Break] [Chorus] Hakanaku tayutau sekai wo kimi no te de mamottakara Ima wa tada tsubasa wo tatande yukkuri nemuri nasai Eien no yasuragi ni tsutsumarete Love through all eternity Yasashiku mimamoru watashi no konote de nemuri nasai Waratteta nai teta okotteta kimi no koto oboete iru Wasurenai itsu made mo kesshite Until my life is exhausted [Chorus] Mabayuku kagayaku hito toki minna to isshodatta Kakegae no nai toki to shirazu ni watashi wa sugoshite ita Ima wa tada taisetsu ni shinobu you I will embrace the feeling Kimi wa ne tashika ni ano toki watashi no soba ni ita Itsu datte, itsu datte, itsu datte sugu yoko de waratte ita Shitsu kushite mo torimodosu kimi wo I will never leave you
The ending to this game hit me extra hard, I finished it about the time I was graduating from high school and moving onto college. I was unsure about where I would go in life and I felt so confused, but In a strange way the ending gave me a sense of closure, it showed me life will go on and it’s okay for me not to know. If I didn’t decide to play this game I probably would’ve broken down as I left my school lol. Persona 3 is one of my favorite games.
I always cry with this game. Every played Persona 3, the game find the way to make to cry...I love Persona. Rest in peace my favourite emo Makoto Yuki...
Have you seen the translated lyrics to "memories of you"? if not, you really should. The song is written from aigis's perspective as she watches makoto die in her arms.
Yeah, the final always makes me cry, especially the ending song, Memories of You, which is about the loss of a loved one. It can be interpreted as a farewell song from Aigis to Makoto. Also, Aigis is probably the canon love interest.
One of the few Cases where the Protagonist gets the 'Universe' ('World') Arcana (in addition to the Wild Card) to wield even if for the good cause, even Igor is surprised about Makoto. Igor: "You where truly.. a most remarkble guest".
(No Spoilers from any other game) The voice cast was definitely filled with VAs that have appeared in Genshin like Allegra Clark(Beidou) who was Mitsuru and Alejandro Saab(Cyno) who was Akihiko. There are also few more like Amber Lee Connors(Furina) and Zack Aguilar(Aether) if anyone wants to check them out.(I don't know if there were more but it is worth looking up). But the main ones i like to bring up were the p3 original cast who was in this game like Liam O'Brien(OG Akihiko) coming back as Officer Kurosawa, the Antique shop ownet who i think is OG Yukari and Yuri Lowethal(OG Makoto) coming back as Yukari's dad who also voices Sasuke Uchiha in Naruto and Yosuke in P4(to check out the game). Oh and Elizabeth had her OG VA come back for this. Finally, the other VAs i want to mention are the P5 VAs that were here(spoiler free). Xander Mobus, who voiced Edogawa-Sensei(the one who always talked about magic if no one ine remembers), also voices the Protagonist in Persona 5 and Erika Harlacher, who voices another character in P5 (as well as Venti in Genshin) was in an extra VA role this game. If anyone knows if i messed up in any name here, please reply so i can correct it. Also, if anyone wants to point out any other VAs that they recognize from other shows/games/movies, write the down too.
3 hours of peak! Definitely finish with Episode Aigis before moving on to P4 or P5. The structure of the DLC's story is very back loaded but it's got some amazing moments in it.
"You, who wish to safeguard the future, however limited it may be... You will be given one year; go forth without falter, with your heart as your guide..." Liz has never recovered from this (she dosnt even speak much cus she knows she wouldnt stop as she is aware what is happening). Even if she dont usually show it and being Liz later on in games. And each time the SEES with Makoto where transported - in time, to different world dimention or to the dream in the series - their (SEES) memory gained with him (after the Final Battle time) was erased after the fact as a final hit on our emotional nail. The original version of "Memories of You" with original singer destoryes me emotionally even more... "I will never leave You". Persona 3 is "Memento Mori, Memento Vivere". Amazing piece of media.
Love this game so much. I thought the remaster was fantastic. Obviously The Answer DLC would be a great playthrough as well. I would DEFINITELY recommend Persona 5 Royal. It is the first persona game I ever beat and love it to bits. Would love to see you play it at some point in the future!
I'm so glad you enjoyed this game! All the persona games 1-5 mean so much to me and I love seeing what these games make other people feel! 3 and 4 especially have both helped me out through really hard times in my life. I remember when Reload was first announced I literally almost screamed because I was so excited to play through it again in a new light. Quick question, that's completely offtopic (and should probably be asked on a Project Moon video) but where did you get that Ruina poster? It looks super good and I was looking to get it myself, but because I couldn't find it, it almost makes me wonder if you got it locally at like a convention or something?
@@hemoglobinExploiter thank you for watching my journey! I had an amazing time with this game and I REALLY want to play 1&2 but I will hopefully await a remake and play the others in the meantime!! I bet you were haha it was so worth it as well! The project moon poster I got from red bubble :) I love it as well 😁😁
Stumbled upon your channel on accident months ago and kept coming back from time to time to check upon new persona vids! It's bittersweet to see the that this journey is over. Still, I'll defitinely check your other Atlus playthoughs~ Also, glad to see another Chihiro enjoyer! She was my favorite amongst girls but then Aigis barged in and stole the spot from everyone (the rooftop scene alone makes me tear up a bit every time I see it). Now I'm always choosing her over any other girl even if it's a bit sad rejecting Chihiro every time
Thanks for this series. Im Italian and i dont follow english youtuber usually, but i fall in love with your videos and your reaction. Pls play P4 and (specially) P5 ❤ (sorry for my shity english)
Congrats on finishing one of my favorite games! Like you said that there's so much heart and soul put into SEES's journey and the overarching messages of valuing life before death. Just a heads up if you do play the DLC: unlike the base game, the vast majority of it is combat so it can feel grindy after a while. if you're mostly going for story then i recommend playing on low difficulty (peaceful or easy) to speed through the dungeons (and maybe turning back up the difficulty near the end).
@@hunterhunter5998 thank you!! I completely agree, it's such a poignant game that really sticks with you and makes you think about life that's for sure! That is great DLC advice I think that is likely what I am going to do :) thank you!!
Interesting facts about Nyx the Eternal Mother, the Primordial Goddess and personification of 'the Night' from Greek Mythology that can help you understand more about Nyx character: Mythology: Versions of her birth and origins vary, but one interpretation has Nyx (Νύξ 'Night) as a creator goddess, laying a silver egg that produces the gods responsible for the Creation of the World. She is depicted as a goddess draped in long flowing black robes that are coated with the void of space and glimmering distant stars. Her appearances in mythology are sparse, but reveal her as a figure of exceptional power. In ancient art Nyx was depicted as a either a winged goddess or charioteer, sometimes crowned with an aureole of dark mists. In Hesiod's Theogony, she is the offspring of Chaos, and the mother of Aether and Hemera (Day) by Erebus (Darkness). One account details Zeus' fear and detest of Nyx is when Hypnos, the god of sleep, reminds Hera of an old favor after she asks him to put Zeus to sleep. Zeus was furious and would have smitten Hypnos into the sea if he had not fled to Nyx, his mother, in fear. In fact, the king of the gods was fearful to the point where he held his fury at bay and in this way Hypnos escaped the wrath of Zeus by appealing to his powerful mother. She gave birth to many offspring, including Light (Aether), Day (Hemera), Death (Thanatos), Sleep (Hypnos), Doom (Moros), Retribution (Nemesis) the Moirae Sisters alongside many others. In some accounts, the goddess of witchcraft, Hecate was also called the daughter of Night. Atlus Games and Persona 3 Club Lore Book: This in fact second apearence of Nyx in the Persona series, first time her 'Incarnation' manifested in alternative route-timeline of Persona 1 under the name of 'Night Queen'. Her ultimate goal was to create an "Eternal Night" referencing her origin and state of existence. Nyx is an outlier to other godlike entities in Persona (& SMT) worlds in that she is not actually born of the Humanity Collective Unconscious (which is created and creates by the mind of every single living being). Instead, she is a alien Celestial Being known as 'Planet Eater' (or Star Eater cus JP used 'Hoshi') that had crashed down into ancient-time Earth from Outer Space. This collision would have destroyed the planet if not for the composition of the Planet Eater (that is 'Nyx') itself being something which defied all physical laws entirely. Nevertheless, the Planet Eater collided with something and the impact led to its psyche separating from its body; the body broke apart into a physical shell and its debris would eventually reform into the Moon, while the psyche stayed on Earth. So as her body was split into two, Physical and Mental, with the physical becoming the Moon and the mind connecting to evolving the creatures of Earth, further forming the Collective Unconscious (or you can say Alaya, which i can say indeed connected to "the Butterfly" just like our Igor) which then seemingly sealed it away as fragments called Shadows - effectively the 'Fruit of Knowledge' humanity attained that Ryouji 'Nyx Avatar' referenced. This is cus the psyche of Nyx is described as "wave-like" and its "waves of Death" energy spread all over the Earth and its primal lifeforms. This stood in contradiction to the psyches of Earth's earliest lifeforms and could have eliminated all life as no lifeform that existed before Nyx came was considering death, in some primitive form even. Upon exposure to these waves, life as a whole evolved to contain these deadly energies of Nyx's psyche within themselves, transforming a plane of information known as the 'Collective Unconsciousness' (thats how later humanity begin to conquering the "fear of Death") to a new state. The waves of Nyx's psyche are sealed within the deepest depths of the psyche of every living being as Shadows (tho i cant say for sure if its influance truly affect other Shadows in other games or they are different), while Nyx's Consciousness or Spirit sank into the depths of the Collective Unconsciousness (which exist outside and independent of Time-space so Nyx probobly "crushed against it" in the first place cus Nyx body exists between matter, mind and information - akin to the Velvet Room - and it was wandering, maybe even sleeping, when it happened). The destruction Nyx would have wrought in theory would be in the form of tearing those Shadows (lower parts of the psyche everyone has that connected to Nyx) from the bodies of the humanity, the proximity of its flesh forcefully pulling the fragments of itself rooted into the Collective Unconscious it created in humanity, effectivly 'ending all life' with 'eternal night', while simultaneously destroying planet Earth. It is somewhat hinted at early on where we saw cases of the black substance that flowed/was torn out of people's heads who lacked the capacity to defend themselves through Personas, as well as the literal end of all existence (and like End of Evangelion events) happening in the Story. Thus Ryouji/The Avatar of Nyx connection to Death Arcana and Ultimate Persona of Death - Thanatos. With this, you can understand better how much Makoto and SEES truly did for Persona world, saving it from Nyx fate. Interestingly, even at the state of the World and Humanity at the time of Persona 3 Nyx is not described as malevolent or wanting to kill humanity for its ignorence. Ironically, as displayed in P3 through the sorrowful words of Ryouji/The Avatar Nyx itself "Did not want humanity to die but is in fact a slave to the wishes of the masses (Collective Unconscious) and their negative, deep-rooted emotions". And in fact.. She isnt even the one "responsible"... But its the story for later. Anyway, essentially, 'Nyx' isn't "Death" per se, but "Inevitablity of Death". "Whatever you do, whatever good you are, you'll die, you can't keep on forever. Because Nyx. You can't resist her.". Carl Jung (a Swiss psychiatrist, psychotherapist, psychologist theorist) and Lovecraftian Cosmic Horror basis for Atlus Themes and Persona 3 relation: "The quantity of jungian symbols that are present only on “Nyx” design is simply enormus: 'Mother Archetype', 'Collective Unconscious', 'Anima Mundi', "Personas = Shadows", the 'Golden Egg' and the Archetype of the Self. Even the fact “she” is an alien is somewhat based on what Jung wrote: “Since the unconscious gives us the feeling that it is something alien, a non-ego, it is quite natural that it should be symbolized by an alien figure. Thus, on the one hand, it is the most insignificant of things, while on the other, so far as it potentially contains that "round" wholeness which consciousness lacks, it is the most significant of all. This "round" thing is the great treasure that lies hidden in the cave of the unconscious, and its personification is this personal being who represents the higher unity of conscious and unconscious. It is a figure comparable to Hiranyagarbha, Purusha, Atman, and the mystic Buddha.” - Archetypes and the Collective Unconscious, with the Hiranyagarbha being the golden egg within Hinduism." The concept of Nyx (which technically isn't its true name even) becomes reinforced throught Cosmic Horror (which many creators like for example Hoyoverse and etc use): A mighty and all-powerful alien entity, unable to be understood, sleeping on the Moon and deep within your mind. But on the moment you give up, it'll wake up and consume everything. While certainly more human-centric and positive than Lovecraft, it's hard to not draw comparisons with his work (It doesn't help Nyx has common elements with Azathoth). You're not only dealing with "Death" or "Inevitablity of Death" (Which, for the umpteenth time, is Nyx's Avatar, its “child” and fragment of its soul), but also with the Great Mother that allowed life to experience itself. The Anima Mundi that gave birth to all Souls (Consciousness, which can't exist without Shadows), the underlying essence of the Night and Darkness that the Collective Unconscious is. Nyx is the primal, undifferentiated emptiness that exists before life (The Great Mother) and at the end (Death), but those are nothing but mere perceptions assigned by humanity to something that inherently escapes it, existing as true alien existence beyond what language can fully explain, as the Unknown beyond human capacity and experience - Chaos (Hesiodic), Nyx (Orphic), Ayin (Kabbalah), Sunyata (Buddhism)... And the Collective Unconscious (Jung, who described it as pure darkness/night and unknownable). Put it simply: The Eater remains trascendental as always and not only as the Mother of Shadows and Death this time, but as the unknown that exists beyond consciousness - The Unconscious itself, possibly all of it." Another cruios detail is that Jung wrote about was - Abraxas, the chicken-headed god. Abraxas embodies 'All Dualities' who is birthed from the Cosmic Egg. Destroying a world in order to create a new one. A bit of a general theme spoiler to other Persona Series games as a bonus: This has traceable similarities to the entities of the other games, except that they are wholly born from human emotions and in many cases come to intentionally abuse the weakness of humanity represented in what created them, deliberately trying to stagnate or kill off their very creators. So in short, Nyx is in a way indeed an outworldly Mother figure for Humanity, goddess of creation that is towering above all gods, 'peacefully sleeping' untill the 'Promised Day'.
"The unknown sender is Ryoji aka Death aka Pharos. Makoto looked at the music box Ryoji gave him right before he got the text. And if you go up to the music room before that, he mentions how he remembers a melody being played there once and how it's going to be with him forever. And I honestly think that's really sweet. When Pharos disappeared on 11/4, he remembered his purpose and should've left to bring ruin to the world. But he came back because he wanted to see Makoto again. He defied his fate for the person he cared about. Now, when Makoto makes the ultimate sacrifice, he should be gone. But he also returns to say farewell to those he cares about. Saying goodbye to the people you love caused Ryoji and Pixel to defy the fate set before them. Even if only for a little while. This was an amazing game. "
So happy that they decided to remake this masterpiece. So tired of all the P3 FES fans complaining that it's not exactly the same game. This game changed P3 for the better imo.
He didn’t die directly in her arms, they brought him back to his room and he was lost the next morning in complete peace 😢 Also, the lyrics of the ending song can be found on the internet pretty easily, they are written from the point of view of Aigis.. It’s is heartbreaking…
Congratulations on beating the main game! Great job! I am extremely biased so I still recommend you fuse Helel and Messiah, and fight the Reaper and Elizabeth before starting Episode AIgis. As I am still very biased I also recommend bringing Ken to fight the Reaper because his 2nd Theurgy, Divine Intervention is very helpful support and has a chance to be quite funny if you pop it near the end of the fight. Also, in the original game, you have to romance every girl, you can't befriend them. But watching the movies, I feel like the canon couple is most probably MC with Aigis & MC with Ryoji.
@@chesirecat2969 thank you for your advice about Elizabeth & reaper! I shall have to give that a go as I would like to do those fights haha! I am glad they changed that as I deffo didn't want to romance everyone as people can just be friends haha!
The butterfly is actually Philemon (the being who grants people the ability to summon Persona and grants specific, special individuals the use of the Wild Card ability, which is the ability to use multiple persona. He is also the true ruler of the Velvet Room and Igor is his servant). So the butterfly showing up at the end there was basically Philemon thanking Makoto for his sacrifice.
It almost feels scripted that he started talking about "the moment man devoured the fruit of knowledge" right after you had Satan hit him with Black Viper, lmao.
Answer will tell you more about each of the main cast, what Nyx is and wraps up the story. It's much more dungeon-heavy, but i'd say worth it if you liked the cast and want to know more about them. I played it using gamepass, so the game and dlc cost wasn't really an issue for me, but i fully understand why 135$ full game price tag ruffled alot of feathers
Huh first time I'm seeing his "angry pattern" for not picking up "only opponent in front of me" :O I only learned that is a thing recently, neato to finally see it
I do recommend looking up the credits song, Kimi no Kiyoku/Memories of You, with lyrics, cause it's a beautiful piece from Aigis' perspective that gets lost for a non-JP audience cause Atlus are cowards and don't put karaoke subs in when the credits play. Welcome to the club of celebrating March 5th, the day Emo Jesus died for our sin of nihilism.
The Persona 3 DLC is somewhat controversial, it's certainly not bad but it can definitely lead to rather heated arguments in the fandom, and you are correct that the story in itself is complete, so playing it is optional. I would definitely be here to see you play Persona 5 Royal as well. Persona 3 is an amazing game, especially with all the Persona 5 features that were adapted into Reload, but if there is one game that can beat Persona 3 it is Persona 5 itself^^
Persona 3 is to best persona in my opinion, i mean, the characters are so unique, the social links have so much emotions compared to others persona games, the plot of the main story is so good, if it was not a remake probably would win the game awards so easily
"The Arcana is the Means by wich All is Revealed" Persona 3 in a way saved Atlus from possible bankruptcy. P3 was supposed to be Atlus swan song before the bankruptcy so they given their all to it with this feeling of Finility. An it payed off. 24:1424:22 Right, Arihiko (Liam) :) In JP Aigis with Liz is voiced by real life ded-pan japanese goddess Maya Sakomoto ww. 26:57 Same to be honest lol Tho i do ship Makoto x Yukari too (just like with Aigis and Ryouji). 28:01 Precious. 1:22:50 Song "The Battle For Everyone's Souls" remix of Velvet Room Theme "Poem of Everyone's Soul" (全ての人の魂の詩, Subete no hito no tamashii no uta) or "Aria of the Soul". 2:04:53 Burn My Dread Last Battle When you use the 'Great Seal', you can see it costs Makoto's entire HP as you noticed one of the points of foreshadowing the death. Gotta say some of the Animated Cutscenes direction hit even harder in the original FES version, hope you will see them (maybe when you play the "remaster/remake" Mod for Persona 3 Portble that adds them, its a diffferent game after all) too. Also when you walk in the City before the Ending everyone keeps noticing how Makoto dont feel wellь and thats cus he always pushes himself to hold out a little longer untill the Promised Day just by his power of Will. "I will always be by your side, protecting you..." 2:46:59 Pretty much what i was thinking since Original FES, yeah. Still, at least we still have P3 Light Novels (with Drama CD and so on) but i was thinking they could use them for flash backs but it didnt happan. Its sad since finding EN translated Persona 3 novels is not so easy compered to playing the Game. 2:48:10 Indeed. 2:48:35 Aigis actually dosnt mind 'human' romantic interest for Makoto, which i think is interesting. She understands. 2:48:53 Unfortunatly original Persona 3 suffers from "Divide" sindrom in this case. Cus on top of "Remaster+DLC" practice - P3 FES and P3P are different games due to how Atlus decided to make different Versions of Protogonist characters (that are a bit similar but in a different way and that) bring different Social Link stories and points of focus to the spotlight for the overall narrative. 2:49:13 Somewhat, yeah. I could argue about this Remake on few points of direction and stuff like it, as there is things i didnt 'love' tho some other things i liked, but i can say it is generally really well made Remake that really preserved that original story while simuantenisly implementing some new and existed in the Series media elements pretty nicely.
Its kinda funny to me how Aegis wasn't originally romantic option at all, but there is clearly lot of romantic moments between MC and Aegis in original as well
Wow, desde que me termine el juego no dejan de salirme gente terminandolo también, es curioso comparar como hay gente que esta en Shock y otra que incluso grita de tristeza
Play The DLC first to experience the complete story and conclusion of Persona 3. The DLC is also kinda introduce you "the concept" of Persona 4 in a tiny bit. From there, I really recommend you to play in order, so Persona 4 Golden and then Persona 5 Royal. There will be some reference here and there about the previous games. As a player who have played all version of Persona 3 and also P4G and P5R, Persona 3 Reload solidifies my opinion that SEES is actually the best casts among all persona games.
Of all the Persona games I think 3 explores it's themes the hardest. It may not be the best _game_ in my opinion, and I do like aspects of the 1st release or FES more than Reloaded (mainly dialogue that was changed and some of the ways the plot is explained to the player) but I think the story stands up to most changes. Loss and meaning are the main themes of Persona 3, how to live beyond loss and what it means to live. It's legacy affects all main line titles and all the crossover games that have a mainline plot, since well... Someone is missing. Speaking of... It's spelled better in the 1st release, like most of the plot lines, but the MC does not survive past graduation. I can only imagine how much of a shock it was for this ending to be vague and then load up ANSWER where it is very much not. In the 1st release, it's spelled out much more clearly with the MC thinking to himself how tired he is, how much later in the day he is waking up, and how peaceful things are. He is actively dying, a little each day, watching his friends forget about him and what they did. Then on graduation he and Aigis go to the roof to wait but no one shows, and he is feeling so tired, so Aigis invites him to take a nap on her lap. Then she begins to describe how she came to find yourself and what the whole year means to her and how she will protect him forever all while he is barely hanging on the consciousness, mostly for her. They both hear the others coming to roof right before the MC closes his eyes for good, finally reunited and free to sleep the long sleep. I mean, the game spelled it out with the Grand Seal. It eats all of your life. The text message was also a hint. Who do you think sent it? Strega is done a little dirty in Reload. In the 1st release, it's made much clearer who they are, what their goals are, and why they are doing it. Basically, everyone in Striga is dying and does not have much longer to live. The process to force out Personas takes a huge toll and the link between the soul and the body and even if drugs can keep it stable for a while they will kill you. Takaya believes you have to find the meaning of life to face death but is unable to find any in this world and begins to believe that the meaning of life _is_ death. He doesn't have time to try to make connections or figure things out. In his view, he is just helping people along what he views as the correct path. Like when he told Jin to stop you, even knowing wouldn't be able to and that the shadows would try to kill him as well. The Shinji and Ken confrontation is also better in my opinion in the 1st release, much better flow.
I don't know about you guys and this might be a little bit harder to glean from the video that other themes of the game but I think the arcana is the means by which all is revealed
Glad you noticed he died a lot of people miss that the great seal costs you all your hp and the fact that he died. It does seem a little oh is he sleep or dying, when I first played I'm like he is dying right he is just not going to sleep and had to google it for the answer. I think the ambiguity wouldn't be there for the Japanese as the ed songs lyrics are just about the MC going to rest and dying.
Congratulations on finishing your first Persona game!!🎉🎉 I love your entire playthrough! my opinion about what should you play next: 1. episode aigis: basicaly an epilogue. play it if you need closure or have any unanswered question especialy the mystery behind the MC's death. 2. P4 is amazing. but the 2008 ps2 graphics and gameplay is an absolute downgrade if you compare it to this game. im sure the remake is coming soon. so better wait until then. 3. P5 is a good option. unique concept, stylish and the most recent persona title. but twice longer play time than this game lol. 4. Metaphor: I think you should go for this one next! thats my recommendation, coming from a fellow persona fan and youtuber (a very small one lol)
@@diongabriel hii tysm for watching I am glad you enjoyed and I had an amazing time with this series! I think the plan so far is DLC episode aigis and then Metaphor just for a lil persona break then I will playing another persona! 😁 Thanks for the advice, much appreciated 💜
Now time for metaphor refantazio. Its a new IP made by atlus and its gonna win goty easy. Atlus cooked so hard this year. 4 top tier games in one year. Persona 3 reload, unicorn overlord, Shin megami tensei 5, metaphor refantazio
The S-Links in this game are definitely the most skippable between P3/4/5. The MC dying really improves the game in retrospect though, especially the Akinari s-link (MC was in the same situation, condemned to die young by Nyx existing).
Man...what a journey. Persona 3 is far from a perfect game, but is definitely one of my absolute favorites not just videogmes but things in general. It holds a very special place in my heart.
Makoto should have died when he sealed Nyx as you saw it used all his health, but the promise he made to his friends to meet up on graduation day made him hold out a little longer. As soon as everyone arrived at the roof is when Makoto passed away because his promise was finally fulfilled.
@@dannyfrost1746 😭😭😭 he was the best
Out of pure willpower to keep his promise
@@georgieegames Ma-GOAT-o
Persona 3's main theme is death and coping with it. Overcoming the terrible reality that nothing will last forever and eveyone will die someday. It only makes sense that the main character would die at the end. It's the perfect ending.
is not just that, don't treat it in a depressed way
is not like "you'll die one day, and there's nothing you can do about it."
is more like "you'll die one day, and there's nothing you can do about it, but you can try to enjoy every second of your life until this day come"
@@chuvarova6052 saying persona 3 is about death is not wrong but it’s more apt to say that’s it’s about life
@@Grau539 you guys are completely right. Just didn't want to write a super long comment about everything this game is about
@@Grau539 As Nyx Avatar said. Life and Death are one and the same.
@@MioThePierrot Memento mori, memento vivere.
lmaooo your realization at the end 😭😭amazing playthrough though!!
@@s_oba yeah I felt like such a idiot ahaha! But thank you for watching 😁✌️
"The arcana is the means by which all is revealed."
Such an iconic phrase from Atlus games.😂
@@DingoEnderZOE2 ICONIC and engrained in my brain forever haha
One of the things I always loved for this final chapter that doesn't get talked about enough is the relationship and payoff between Ryoji and Makoto. His emphasis on how scared he was that Makoto and his friends would spend their final days terrified and in despair, and yet when that moment actually came, Makoto gladly sacrificed himself, and he died with a smile on his face. Such fucking poetry.
"Memories of..." "Living with Determenation..." and then just "Living..." for the "Memory of You".
From a young boy who was apathetic to life in the beginning of the game just going through the motions of life, to a young man who finally valued life again after forming unforgettable bonds with his friends and finally found his family again after losing his biological parents 10 years ago. Makoto Yuki, the young man who decided to do what was necessary to not only save the world, but give his new family a chance to live on and gave back to them what they gave to Makoto, the beauty of life. Farewell to the guest who found his own answer to life.
Yes, Makoto, the protagonist, dies there on the roof in Aigis arms. This is why I choose the romance Aigis option, as it all fits together perfectly. Spending his last moments with the one he loves. 🥺Also the Aigis romance scenes will have will have you in tears.
Not to mention she's canon to the movies which is why I think her romance is so profound in reload. They really doubled down on it.
I chose Yukari because the angst and jealousy is so much amplified in her route if you think about it 😂
@@DandelionandBardock oh god I don't know if I can go back and romance aigis now knowing this as I don't wanna cry again 😭😭
@@georgieegames Oh god if you don't plan to, give it a watch on youtube. SPOILER:
Towards the end she asks Makoto to Touch her Heart, doing so leaves a permanent imprint of his DNA into her code, so a small piece of him remains within her forever. 😭😭
@@DandelionandBardock honestly, I believe that's why Aigis inherits the wild card. Makoto is heavily linked with blue butterflys especially when Aigis sees him after his journey. Yet she awakens to the wildcard when a blue butterfly lands in her hands.
It was such joy to witness your journey, P3 is definitely the single piece of media that tugs my heartstrings best. On another note, an interesting interview with Katsura Hashino, the original director for P3, says the rooftop scene is inspired by an intimate moment with his wife. Once he was so sick he thought he was going to die, never before had he really thought he would, but at the moment the gentle comfort of his wife made him thought "It might not be so bad to die like this".
Lyrics for the "Memories of You" sung from Aigis perspective at the end:
EN:
The voice of the wind and droplets of light flow over you as you doze
I will never forget the gentle smile and the eyes you hid in sorrow
You gave me the courage to wish (even when it hurts) and to fight, so I can go on
In my dreams (even when I wake up) I will see you again
I sing, with a distant memory in my heart
You defended this fragile and fleeting world with your hands
So please, fold your wings and rest
Sheltered by an eternal peace, love through all eternity
Rest now in my arms, as I watch over you
As I recall your joy, your sorrow, and your rage
I will remember you always, until my life is exhausted
At an intersection, I heard a voice similar to yours
I turned to look up at the sky, to force back my sudden tears
I continue to walk alone, aimlessly, believing that I will see you again tomorrow (someday)
Through rainy nights (and sunny days) I wait for you
I'll never forget that dark night, we made it through
That blindingly brilliant moment when we were all together
Those precious times I didn't realize I should cherish
Now all I can do is remember, I will embrace the feeling
I know for a fact, you were there by my side
You were always always always there, smiling
If ever I lose you, I will find you, I will never leave you
You defended this fragile and fleeting world with your hands
So please, fold your wings and rest
Sheltered by an eternal peace, love through all eternity
Rest now in my arms, as I watch over you
As I recall your joy, your sorrow, and your rage
I will remember you always, until my life is exhausted
That blindingly brilliant moment when we were all together
Those precious times I didn't realize I should cherish
Now all I can do is remember, I will embrace the feeling
I know for a fact, you were there by my side
You were always always always there, smiling
If ever I lose you, I will find you, I will never leave you
JP Romaji:
[Verse 1]
Kaze no koe hikari no tsubu
Madoromu kimi ni sosogu
Wasurenai yasashii hohoemi kanashi sa kakushita hitomi wo
Negau koto tsurakute mo
Tachimukau yuuki kimi moratta dakara iku ne
Yume no naka mezametara mata aeru yo
[Pre-Chorus]
Tooi kioku mune ni hime utau
[Chorus]
Hakanaku tayutau sekai wo kimi no te de mamottakara
Ima wa tada tsubasa wo tatande yukkuri nemuri nasai
Eien no yasuragi ni tsutsumarete
Love through all eternity
Yasashiku mimamoru watashi no konote de nemuri nasai
Waratteta nai teta okotteta kimi no koto oboete iru
Wasurenai itsu made mo kesshite
Until my life is exhausted
[Verse 2]
Kousaten kikoete kita kimi ni yoku nita koe
Furimuite sora wo aogi miru
Kobore souna namida koraete
Ashita koso itsu no hi ka
Mou ichido kimi ni aeru to shinji hitori mayoi
Ame no yoru hareta asa machi tsuzukete
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[Pre-Chorus]
Wasurenai yo kakenuketa yoru wo
[Chorus]
Mabayuku kagayaku hitotoki minna to isshodatta
Kakegae no nai toki to shirazu ni watashi wa sugoshite ita
Ima wa tada taisetsu ni shinobu you
I will embrace the feeling
Kimi wa ne tashika ni ano toki watashi no soba ni ita
Itsu datte, itsu datte, itsu datte sugu yoko de waratte ita
Nakushitemo torimodosu kimi wo
I will never leave you
[Instrumental Break]
[Chorus]
Hakanaku tayutau sekai wo kimi no te de mamottakara
Ima wa tada tsubasa wo tatande yukkuri nemuri nasai
Eien no yasuragi ni tsutsumarete
Love through all eternity
Yasashiku mimamoru watashi no konote de nemuri nasai
Waratteta nai teta okotteta kimi no koto oboete iru
Wasurenai itsu made mo kesshite
Until my life is exhausted
[Chorus]
Mabayuku kagayaku hito toki minna to isshodatta
Kakegae no nai toki to shirazu ni watashi wa sugoshite ita
Ima wa tada taisetsu ni shinobu you
I will embrace the feeling
Kimi wa ne tashika ni ano toki watashi no soba ni ita
Itsu datte, itsu datte, itsu datte sugu yoko de waratte ita
Shitsu kushite mo torimodosu kimi wo
I will never leave you
1:22:01 dang that might be one of the best phase changes with the music that ive seen
1:22:00 Perfectly timed
Yaaas 😁😁
The ending to this game hit me extra hard, I finished it about the time I was graduating from high school and moving onto college. I was unsure about where I would go in life and I felt so confused, but In a strange way the ending gave me a sense of closure, it showed me life will go on and it’s okay for me not to know. If I didn’t decide to play this game I probably would’ve broken down as I left my school lol. Persona 3 is one of my favorite games.
I always cry with this game. Every played Persona 3, the game find the way to make to cry...I love Persona. Rest in peace my favourite emo Makoto Yuki...
Thank you for the amazing playthrough!
@@therealshrinemaiden6898 tysm for hanging out and watching this playthrough! It's really appreciated and I hope you enjoyed :)
Have you seen the translated lyrics to "memories of you"? if not, you really should. The song is written from aigis's perspective as she watches makoto die in her arms.
Yeah, the final always makes me cry, especially the ending song, Memories of You, which is about the loss of a loved one. It can be interpreted as a farewell song from Aigis to Makoto.
Also, Aigis is probably the canon love interest.
More like ONE of the Canon love interests considering how a certain someone reacts in the answer DLC.
@@DingoEnderZOE2 I always viewed that other someone as canon, esp with how she acted.
thank you for finishing my favorite game in the series!
im curious to see a metaphor playthrough for a change of pace...
@@krastyantheparamount i have got metaphor actually so 👀👀👀
And tysm for watching!! 😁
One of the few Cases where the Protagonist gets the 'Universe' ('World') Arcana (in addition to the Wild Card) to wield even if for the good cause, even Igor is surprised about Makoto.
Igor: "You where truly.. a most remarkble guest".
you're my favorite channel from now on
(No Spoilers from any other game)
The voice cast was definitely filled with VAs that have appeared in Genshin like Allegra Clark(Beidou) who was Mitsuru and Alejandro Saab(Cyno) who was Akihiko. There are also few more like Amber Lee Connors(Furina) and Zack Aguilar(Aether) if anyone wants to check them out.(I don't know if there were more but it is worth looking up).
But the main ones i like to bring up were the p3 original cast who was in this game like Liam O'Brien(OG Akihiko) coming back as Officer Kurosawa, the Antique shop ownet who i think is OG Yukari and Yuri Lowethal(OG Makoto) coming back as Yukari's dad who also voices Sasuke Uchiha in Naruto and Yosuke in P4(to check out the game). Oh and Elizabeth had her OG VA come back for this.
Finally, the other VAs i want to mention are the P5 VAs that were here(spoiler free). Xander Mobus, who voiced Edogawa-Sensei(the one who always talked about magic if no one ine remembers), also voices the Protagonist in Persona 5 and Erika Harlacher, who voices another character in P5 (as well as Venti in Genshin) was in an extra VA role this game.
If anyone knows if i messed up in any name here, please reply so i can correct it. Also, if anyone wants to point out any other VAs that they recognize from other shows/games/movies, write the down too.
Cherami Leigh (Makoto Nijima) also did some additional voices. Mostly other female students and I believe Ms Kanou
In Japan's folk lore, butterflies are symbolized as the souls of the deceased, ready to be reincarnated.
3 hours of peak! Definitely finish with Episode Aigis before moving on to P4 or P5. The structure of the DLC's story is very back loaded but it's got some amazing moments in it.
@@rue8929 thanks for hanging out! Yess that definitely seems like the consensus but I shall do a poll tomorrow to gauge interest etc :)
"You, who wish to safeguard the future, however limited it may be... You will be given one year; go forth without falter, with your heart as your guide..."
Liz has never recovered from this (she dosnt even speak much cus she knows she wouldnt stop as she is aware what is happening). Even if she dont usually show it and being Liz later on in games.
And each time the SEES with Makoto where transported - in time, to different world dimention or to the dream in the series - their (SEES) memory gained with him (after the Final Battle time) was erased after the fact as a final hit on our emotional nail.
The original version of "Memories of You" with original singer destoryes me emotionally even more... "I will never leave You".
Persona 3 is "Memento Mori, Memento Vivere". Amazing piece of media.
Aw man. I remember on this fight on the PSP version Mitsuru got charmed and used Diarahan on Nyx.
Love this game so much. I thought the remaster was fantastic. Obviously The Answer DLC would be a great playthrough as well.
I would DEFINITELY recommend Persona 5 Royal. It is the first persona game I ever beat and love it to bits. Would love to see you play it at some point in the future!
Battle Hymn of the Soul, my beloved.
also, goddamit i will never not cry at memories of you
I'm so glad you enjoyed this game! All the persona games 1-5 mean so much to me and I love seeing what these games make other people feel! 3 and 4 especially have both helped me out through really hard times in my life. I remember when Reload was first announced I literally almost screamed because I was so excited to play through it again in a new light.
Quick question, that's completely offtopic (and should probably be asked on a Project Moon video) but where did you get that Ruina poster? It looks super good and I was looking to get it myself, but because I couldn't find it, it almost makes me wonder if you got it locally at like a convention or something?
@@hemoglobinExploiter thank you for watching my journey! I had an amazing time with this game and I REALLY want to play 1&2 but I will hopefully await a remake and play the others in the meantime!! I bet you were haha it was so worth it as well! The project moon poster I got from red bubble :) I love it as well 😁😁
Stumbled upon your channel on accident months ago and kept coming back from time to time to check upon new persona vids! It's bittersweet to see the that this journey is over. Still, I'll defitinely check your other Atlus playthoughs~
Also, glad to see another Chihiro enjoyer! She was my favorite amongst girls but then Aigis barged in and stole the spot from everyone (the rooftop scene alone makes me tear up a bit every time I see it). Now I'm always choosing her over any other girl even if it's a bit sad rejecting Chihiro every time
Thanks for this series. Im Italian and i dont follow english youtuber usually, but i fall in love with your videos and your reaction. Pls play P4 and (specially) P5 ❤ (sorry for my shity english)
@@FrancescoBove-lj4pn thank you so much for following this series!! I do plan on more persona in the future so I hope you enjoy! 😁😁
Yeah, the quality of social links has obviously improved over the years.
But if you want to see this story in full, please play Episode Aigis.
Congrats on finishing one of my favorite games! Like you said that there's so much heart and soul put into SEES's journey and the overarching messages of valuing life before death.
Just a heads up if you do play the DLC: unlike the base game, the vast majority of it is combat so it can feel grindy after a while. if you're mostly going for story then i recommend playing on low difficulty (peaceful or easy) to speed through the dungeons (and maybe turning back up the difficulty near the end).
@@hunterhunter5998 thank you!! I completely agree, it's such a poignant game that really sticks with you and makes you think about life that's for sure! That is great DLC advice I think that is likely what I am going to do :) thank you!!
Interesting facts about Nyx the Eternal Mother, the Primordial Goddess and personification of 'the Night' from Greek Mythology that can help you understand more about Nyx character:
Mythology:
Versions of her birth and origins vary, but one interpretation has Nyx (Νύξ 'Night) as a creator goddess, laying a silver egg that produces the gods responsible for the Creation of the World.
She is depicted as a goddess draped in long flowing black robes that are coated with the void of space and glimmering distant stars. Her appearances in mythology are sparse, but reveal her as a figure of exceptional power. In ancient art Nyx was depicted as a either a winged goddess or charioteer, sometimes crowned with an aureole of dark mists.
In Hesiod's Theogony, she is the offspring of Chaos, and the mother of Aether and Hemera (Day) by Erebus (Darkness).
One account details Zeus' fear and detest of Nyx is when Hypnos, the god of sleep, reminds Hera of an old favor after she asks him to put Zeus to sleep. Zeus was furious and would have smitten Hypnos into the sea if he had not fled to Nyx, his mother, in fear. In fact, the king of the gods was fearful to the point where he held his fury at bay and in this way Hypnos escaped the wrath of Zeus by appealing to his powerful mother.
She gave birth to many offspring, including Light (Aether), Day (Hemera), Death (Thanatos), Sleep (Hypnos), Doom (Moros), Retribution (Nemesis) the Moirae Sisters alongside many others. In some accounts, the goddess of witchcraft, Hecate was also called the daughter of Night.
Atlus Games and Persona 3 Club Lore Book:
This in fact second apearence of Nyx in the Persona series, first time her 'Incarnation' manifested in alternative route-timeline of Persona 1 under the name of 'Night Queen'. Her ultimate goal was to create an "Eternal Night" referencing her origin and state of existence.
Nyx is an outlier to other godlike entities in Persona (& SMT) worlds in that she is not actually born of the Humanity Collective Unconscious (which is created and creates by the mind of every single living being).
Instead, she is a alien Celestial Being known as 'Planet Eater' (or Star Eater cus JP used 'Hoshi') that had crashed down into ancient-time Earth from Outer Space.
This collision would have destroyed the planet if not for the composition of the Planet Eater (that is 'Nyx') itself being something which defied all physical laws entirely. Nevertheless, the Planet Eater collided with something and the impact led to its psyche separating from its body; the body broke apart into a physical shell and its debris would eventually reform into the Moon, while the psyche stayed on Earth.
So as her body was split into two, Physical and Mental, with the physical becoming the Moon and the mind connecting to evolving the creatures of Earth, further forming the Collective Unconscious (or you can say Alaya, which i can say indeed connected to "the Butterfly" just like our Igor) which then seemingly sealed it away as fragments called Shadows - effectively the 'Fruit of Knowledge' humanity attained that Ryouji 'Nyx Avatar' referenced. This is cus the psyche of Nyx is described as "wave-like" and its "waves of Death" energy spread all over the Earth and its primal lifeforms.
This stood in contradiction to the psyches of Earth's earliest lifeforms and could have eliminated all life as no lifeform that existed before Nyx came was considering death, in some primitive form even.
Upon exposure to these waves, life as a whole evolved to contain these deadly energies of Nyx's psyche within themselves, transforming a plane of information known as the 'Collective Unconsciousness' (thats how later humanity begin to conquering the "fear of Death") to a new state.
The waves of Nyx's psyche are sealed within the deepest depths of the psyche of every living being as Shadows (tho i cant say for sure if its influance truly affect other Shadows in other games or they are different), while Nyx's Consciousness or Spirit sank into the depths of the Collective Unconsciousness (which exist outside and independent of Time-space so Nyx probobly "crushed against it" in the first place cus Nyx body exists between matter, mind and information - akin to the Velvet Room - and it was wandering, maybe even sleeping, when it happened).
The destruction Nyx would have wrought in theory would be in the form of tearing those Shadows (lower parts of the psyche everyone has that connected to Nyx) from the bodies of the humanity, the proximity of its flesh forcefully pulling the fragments of itself rooted into the Collective Unconscious it created in humanity, effectivly 'ending all life' with 'eternal night', while simultaneously destroying planet Earth.
It is somewhat hinted at early on where we saw cases of the black substance that flowed/was torn out of people's heads who lacked the capacity to defend themselves through Personas, as well as the literal end of all existence (and like End of Evangelion events) happening in the Story. Thus Ryouji/The Avatar of Nyx connection to Death Arcana and Ultimate Persona of Death - Thanatos.
With this, you can understand better how much Makoto and SEES truly did for Persona world, saving it from Nyx fate.
Interestingly, even at the state of the World and Humanity at the time of Persona 3 Nyx is not described as malevolent or wanting to kill humanity for its ignorence. Ironically, as displayed in P3 through the sorrowful words of Ryouji/The Avatar Nyx itself "Did not want humanity to die but is in fact a slave to the wishes of the masses (Collective Unconscious) and their negative, deep-rooted emotions".
And in fact.. She isnt even the one "responsible"... But its the story for later.
Anyway, essentially, 'Nyx' isn't "Death" per se, but "Inevitablity of Death". "Whatever you do, whatever good you are, you'll die, you can't keep on forever. Because Nyx. You can't resist her.".
Carl Jung (a Swiss psychiatrist, psychotherapist, psychologist theorist) and Lovecraftian Cosmic Horror basis for Atlus Themes and Persona 3 relation:
"The quantity of jungian symbols that are present only on “Nyx” design is simply enormus: 'Mother Archetype', 'Collective Unconscious', 'Anima Mundi', "Personas = Shadows", the 'Golden Egg' and the Archetype of the Self. Even the fact “she” is an alien is somewhat based on what Jung wrote:
“Since the unconscious gives us the feeling that it is something alien, a non-ego, it is quite natural that it should be symbolized by an alien figure. Thus, on the one hand, it is the most insignificant of things, while on the other, so far as it potentially contains that "round" wholeness which consciousness lacks, it is the most significant of all. This "round" thing is the great treasure that lies hidden in the cave of the unconscious, and its personification is this personal being who represents the higher unity of conscious and unconscious. It is a figure comparable to Hiranyagarbha, Purusha, Atman, and the mystic Buddha.” - Archetypes and the Collective Unconscious, with the Hiranyagarbha being the golden egg within Hinduism."
The concept of Nyx (which technically isn't its true name even) becomes reinforced throught Cosmic Horror (which many creators like for example Hoyoverse and etc use): A mighty and all-powerful alien entity, unable to be understood, sleeping on the Moon and deep within your mind. But on the moment you give up, it'll wake up and consume everything. While certainly more human-centric and positive than Lovecraft, it's hard to not draw comparisons with his work (It doesn't help Nyx has common elements with Azathoth).
You're not only dealing with "Death" or "Inevitablity of Death" (Which, for the umpteenth time, is Nyx's Avatar, its “child” and fragment of its soul), but also with the Great Mother that allowed life to experience itself. The Anima Mundi that gave birth to all Souls (Consciousness, which can't exist without Shadows), the underlying essence of the Night and Darkness that the Collective Unconscious is.
Nyx is the primal, undifferentiated emptiness that exists before life (The Great Mother) and at the end (Death), but those are nothing but mere perceptions assigned by humanity to something that inherently escapes it, existing as true alien existence beyond what language can fully explain, as the Unknown beyond human capacity and experience - Chaos (Hesiodic), Nyx (Orphic), Ayin (Kabbalah), Sunyata (Buddhism)... And the Collective Unconscious (Jung, who described it as pure darkness/night and unknownable).
Put it simply: The Eater remains trascendental as always and not only as the Mother of Shadows and Death this time, but as the unknown that exists beyond consciousness - The Unconscious itself, possibly all of it."
Another cruios detail is that Jung wrote about was - Abraxas, the chicken-headed god. Abraxas embodies 'All Dualities' who is birthed from the Cosmic Egg. Destroying a world in order to create a new one.
A bit of a general theme spoiler to other Persona Series games as a bonus:
This has traceable similarities to the entities of the other games, except that they are wholly born from human emotions and in many cases come to intentionally abuse the weakness of humanity represented in what created them, deliberately trying to stagnate or kill off their very creators.
So in short, Nyx is in a way indeed an outworldly Mother figure for Humanity, goddess of creation that is towering above all gods, 'peacefully sleeping' untill the 'Promised Day'.
"The unknown sender is Ryoji aka Death aka Pharos. Makoto looked at the music box Ryoji gave him right before he got the text. And if you go up to the music room before that, he mentions how he remembers a melody being played there once and how it's going to be with him forever. And I honestly think that's really sweet. When Pharos disappeared on 11/4, he remembered his purpose and should've left to bring ruin to the world. But he came back because he wanted to see Makoto again. He defied his fate for the person he cared about. Now, when Makoto makes the ultimate sacrifice, he should be gone. But he also returns to say farewell to those he cares about. Saying goodbye to the people you love caused Ryoji and Pixel to defy the fate set before them. Even if only for a little while. This was an amazing game. "
lmfao the timeskipped realization in a red hoodie cracked me up
So happy that they decided to remake this masterpiece. So tired of all the P3 FES fans complaining that it's not exactly the same game. This game changed P3 for the better imo.
Definitely the episode aigis dlc!
I shall do a poll tomorrow so please keep an eye out for it and vote! :)
I shall!
@@plantergab1619 awesome thanks 😁😁
He didn’t die directly in her arms, they brought him back to his room and he was lost the next morning in complete peace 😢
Also, the lyrics of the ending song can be found on the internet pretty easily, they are written from the point of view of Aigis.. It’s is heartbreaking…
Congratulations on beating the main game! Great job!
I am extremely biased so I still recommend you fuse Helel and Messiah, and fight the Reaper and Elizabeth before starting Episode AIgis. As I am still very biased I also recommend bringing Ken to fight the Reaper because his 2nd Theurgy, Divine Intervention is very helpful support and has a chance to be quite funny if you pop it near the end of the fight.
Also, in the original game, you have to romance every girl, you can't befriend them. But watching the movies, I feel like the canon couple is most probably MC with Aigis & MC with Ryoji.
@@chesirecat2969 thank you for your advice about Elizabeth & reaper! I shall have to give that a go as I would like to do those fights haha! I am glad they changed that as I deffo didn't want to romance everyone as people can just be friends haha!
The butterfly is actually Philemon (the being who grants people the ability to summon Persona and grants specific, special individuals the use of the Wild Card ability, which is the ability to use multiple persona. He is also the true ruler of the Velvet Room and Igor is his servant). So the butterfly showing up at the end there was basically Philemon thanking Makoto for his sacrifice.
It almost feels scripted that he started talking about "the moment man devoured the fruit of knowledge" right after you had Satan hit him with Black Viper, lmao.
Answer will tell you more about each of the main cast, what Nyx is and wraps up the story. It's much more dungeon-heavy, but i'd say worth it if you liked the cast and want to know more about them. I played it using gamepass, so the game and dlc cost wasn't really an issue for me, but i fully understand why 135$ full game price tag ruffled alot of feathers
She's in it for only one scene but Kamiki's Mom VA performed like rent was due.
one of the best scenes in the whole game
Huh first time I'm seeing his "angry pattern" for not picking up "only opponent in front of me" :O I only learned that is a thing recently, neato to finally see it
Ah this game such a beautiful story about death and acceptance of it shows how we should value our time and the way we spend it
I finished this game a little bit ago and Kamiki's mother still makes me cry T.T
Damn that was perfect timing on the first arcana shift. 1:22:06
I do recommend looking up the credits song, Kimi no Kiyoku/Memories of You, with lyrics, cause it's a beautiful piece from Aigis' perspective that gets lost for a non-JP audience cause Atlus are cowards and don't put karaoke subs in when the credits play.
Welcome to the club of celebrating March 5th, the day Emo Jesus died for our sin of nihilism.
The Persona 3 DLC is somewhat controversial, it's certainly not bad but it can definitely lead to rather heated arguments in the fandom, and you are correct that the story in itself is complete, so playing it is optional.
I would definitely be here to see you play Persona 5 Royal as well. Persona 3 is an amazing game, especially with all the Persona 5 features that were adapted into Reload, but if there is one game that can beat Persona 3 it is Persona 5 itself^^
Persona 3 is to best persona in my opinion, i mean, the characters are so unique, the social links have so much emotions compared to others persona games, the plot of the main story is so good, if it was not a remake probably would win the game awards so easily
Would love to see you play persona 5 royal next!
Did Georgiee react to the Answer DLCs trailer yet? Iirc she skipped it when it initially released, gonna have to recheck again.
"The Arcana is the Means by wich All is Revealed"
Persona 3 in a way saved Atlus from possible bankruptcy.
P3 was supposed to be Atlus swan song before the bankruptcy so they given their all to it with this feeling of Finility. An it payed off.
24:14 24:22 Right, Arihiko (Liam)
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In JP Aigis with Liz is voiced by real life ded-pan japanese goddess Maya Sakomoto ww.
26:57 Same to be honest lol Tho i do ship Makoto x Yukari too (just like with Aigis and Ryouji).
28:01 Precious.
1:22:50 Song "The Battle For Everyone's Souls" remix of Velvet Room Theme "Poem of Everyone's Soul" (全ての人の魂の詩, Subete no hito no tamashii no uta) or "Aria of the Soul".
2:04:53 Burn My Dread Last Battle
When you use the 'Great Seal', you can see it costs Makoto's entire HP as you noticed one of the points of foreshadowing the death.
Gotta say some of the Animated Cutscenes direction hit even harder in the original FES version, hope you will see them (maybe when you play the "remaster/remake" Mod for Persona 3 Portble that adds them, its a diffferent game after all) too.
Also when you walk in the City before the Ending everyone keeps noticing how Makoto dont feel wellь and thats cus he always pushes himself to hold out a little longer untill the Promised Day just by his power of Will.
"I will always be by your side, protecting you..."
2:46:59 Pretty much what i was thinking since Original FES, yeah. Still, at least we still have P3 Light Novels (with Drama CD and so on) but i was thinking they could use them for flash backs but it didnt happan. Its sad since finding EN translated Persona 3 novels is not so easy compered to playing the Game.
2:48:10 Indeed. 2:48:35 Aigis actually dosnt mind 'human' romantic interest for Makoto, which i think is interesting. She understands.
2:48:53 Unfortunatly original Persona 3 suffers from "Divide" sindrom in this case. Cus on top of "Remaster+DLC" practice - P3 FES and P3P are different games due to how Atlus decided to make different Versions of Protogonist characters (that are a bit similar but in a different way and that) bring different Social Link stories and points of focus to the spotlight for the overall narrative.
2:49:13 Somewhat, yeah.
I could argue about this Remake on few points of direction and stuff like it, as there is things i didnt 'love' tho some other things i liked, but i can say it is generally really well made Remake that really preserved that original story while simuantenisly implementing some new and existed in the Series media elements pretty nicely.
i love baby's first playthrough of persona 3
Its kinda funny to me how Aegis wasn't originally romantic option at all, but there is clearly lot of romantic moments between MC and Aegis in original as well
Wow, desde que me termine el juego no dejan de salirme gente terminandolo también, es curioso comparar como hay gente que esta en Shock y otra que incluso grita de tristeza
Play The DLC first to experience the complete story and conclusion of Persona 3.
The DLC is also kinda introduce you "the concept" of Persona 4 in a tiny bit.
From there, I really recommend you to play in order, so Persona 4 Golden and then Persona 5 Royal. There will be some reference here and there about the previous games.
As a player who have played all version of Persona 3 and also P4G and P5R, Persona 3 Reload solidifies my opinion that SEES is actually the best casts among all persona games.
Dlc is definitely something you should play.
Of all the Persona games I think 3 explores it's themes the hardest. It may not be the best _game_ in my opinion, and I do like aspects of the 1st release or FES more than Reloaded (mainly dialogue that was changed and some of the ways the plot is explained to the player) but I think the story stands up to most changes. Loss and meaning are the main themes of Persona 3, how to live beyond loss and what it means to live. It's legacy affects all main line titles and all the crossover games that have a mainline plot, since well... Someone is missing.
Speaking of... It's spelled better in the 1st release, like most of the plot lines, but the MC does not survive past graduation. I can only imagine how much of a shock it was for this ending to be vague and then load up ANSWER where it is very much not. In the 1st release, it's spelled out much more clearly with the MC thinking to himself how tired he is, how much later in the day he is waking up, and how peaceful things are. He is actively dying, a little each day, watching his friends forget about him and what they did. Then on graduation he and Aigis go to the roof to wait but no one shows, and he is feeling so tired, so Aigis invites him to take a nap on her lap. Then she begins to describe how she came to find yourself and what the whole year means to her and how she will protect him forever all while he is barely hanging on the consciousness, mostly for her. They both hear the others coming to roof right before the MC closes his eyes for good, finally reunited and free to sleep the long sleep. I mean, the game spelled it out with the Grand Seal. It eats all of your life. The text message was also a hint. Who do you think sent it?
Strega is done a little dirty in Reload. In the 1st release, it's made much clearer who they are, what their goals are, and why they are doing it. Basically, everyone in Striga is dying and does not have much longer to live. The process to force out Personas takes a huge toll and the link between the soul and the body and even if drugs can keep it stable for a while they will kill you. Takaya believes you have to find the meaning of life to face death but is unable to find any in this world and begins to believe that the meaning of life _is_ death. He doesn't have time to try to make connections or figure things out. In his view, he is just helping people along what he views as the correct path. Like when he told Jin to stop you, even knowing wouldn't be able to and that the shadows would try to kill him as well. The Shinji and Ken confrontation is also better in my opinion in the 1st release, much better flow.
The arcana is the means by which all is revealed.
Thanks for the video! You gotta play the Answer the Persona 4 Golden and then Persona 4 Royal.
@@-Ripica- I deffo will be getting to it :) gonna do the DLC aigis first and then Metaphor then probs after that :)
I don't know about you guys and this might be a little bit harder to glean from the video that other themes of the game but I think the arcana is the means by which all is revealed
Will you play the episode aigis dlc?
I think G is interested as of now, yeah. G asked it while back in the Comments.
Glad you noticed he died a lot of people miss that the great seal costs you all your hp and the fact that he died. It does seem a little oh is he sleep or dying, when I first played I'm like he is dying right he is just not going to sleep and had to google it for the answer. I think the ambiguity wouldn't be there for the Japanese as the ed songs lyrics are just about the MC going to rest and dying.
Are you going to play Episode Aigis?
Read the lyrics to the ending song if you want to cry
I highly recommend the p3 movies
Congratulations on finishing your first Persona game!!🎉🎉
I love your entire playthrough!
my opinion about what should you play next:
1. episode aigis: basicaly an epilogue. play it if you need closure or have any unanswered question especialy the mystery behind the MC's death.
2. P4 is amazing. but the 2008 ps2 graphics and gameplay is an absolute downgrade if you compare it to this game. im sure the remake is coming soon. so better wait until then.
3. P5 is a good option. unique concept, stylish and the most recent persona title. but twice longer play time than this game lol.
4. Metaphor: I think you should go for this one next!
thats my recommendation, coming from a fellow persona fan and youtuber (a very small one lol)
@@diongabriel hii tysm for watching I am glad you enjoyed and I had an amazing time with this series! I think the plan so far is DLC episode aigis and then Metaphor just for a lil persona break then I will playing another persona! 😁 Thanks for the advice, much appreciated 💜
Now time for metaphor refantazio. Its a new IP made by atlus and its gonna win goty easy. Atlus cooked so hard this year. 4 top tier games in one year. Persona 3 reload, unicorn overlord, Shin megami tensei 5, metaphor refantazio
The S-Links in this game are definitely the most skippable between P3/4/5. The MC dying really improves the game in retrospect though, especially the Akinari s-link (MC was in the same situation, condemned to die young by Nyx existing).
Persona 3 Movies when 🌝
Have to play episode Aigis if you dont your noy getting the full P3 story and will be missing info for future games
@@beck_gaming1243 coming soon 👀👀
I really sugest you play Aigis Episode , not only its a sequel to The ending its explain what exatly happend in The end and what Mc did to Seal nyx
will be coming soon! :)
Really hoping you watch the movies because they are one of the best adaptations I've ever watched
yess!! I definitely will be! just need to find them! :)
@@georgieegames if you’re still trying to find them, they’re all on youtube with subtitles! hope you enjoy them :)
Man...what a journey. Persona 3 is far from a perfect game, but is definitely one of my absolute favorites not just videogmes but things in general. It holds a very special place in my heart.
Makoto is sleeping 🫡
(He died that not realy an happy ending sorry )
@@picanyan7821 😭😭😭😭
play persona 4 golden after episode aigis !!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@qixiaotianmonkiekid4789 i am doing a poll tomorrow, keep an eye out and definitely vote for what you would like to see :)
She could just wait for the inevitable remake of Persona 4 Golden. 😂
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