what a beast simon! didnt see that coming haha. well good! hainbach and i was jamming on some hose pipes the other day but nothing this spectacular!!!!! such a neat package. awesome
This neat package by Simon The Magpie could be used to make weird house music synths. It could be called Feedback House. :) Also, cool username Mr. Look Mum, No Computer.
Hey Simon, could you do a little sonic experiment, by running sound through an object and then back into the organ? I mean like putting the open ends of two tubes in a metal container. Or something else that could resonate nicely.
That’s what I was thinking! Also what if you had a ‘T’ splitter so both ends could be hooked up to the organ, but then connect some resonant thing to the middle (does that make sense?)? It seems infinitely tinkerable!
Feedback hoses rule. Which is a sentence likely never uttered in the world prior to Magpie madness. I am going to repurpose some old cpap tubes to patch up mine when it arrives!
I wanna see copper tubes and have flute like tone holes cut into it. As added . I think you onto something great here to establish and expand concept of resonates
If you cut a hose the scale length of a guitar, you can use its frets to measure out and cut the other hoses according to on which fret the interval lands
What you've done here is created a fantastic intrustment for a sci fi DJ to use. Just musical enough that it could theoretically become some weird genre heard in very strange clubs in distant planets. 😂 Alternatively, you've built a machine that makes sorting algorithm ASMR without the sorting algorithm part.
Serious comment: I wonder how this would work in a room with a loud PA system, or just near speakers. My guess is that it is going to resonate all of the sounds through those tubes. If it is then going into the PA it will create a whole other feedback loop, which could be dangerous of course! But there are some neat ideas there for reverb and delays, etc. Quite innovative. I like it.
Look up a, "Leslie Cabinet" to see a similar idea. It a design from the 1950s that used a rotating funnel over a speaker to create a wah/tremelo type of sound for guitars and organs. I used to have one back in the Day... ;)
Listening to this made me have the sensation that I had burned my nosehairs, at about 7 mins and 47 seconds in. No, really, it did. More of a smell than a discomfort. Who knew that listening to feedback loops would give you synesthesia?
I love this so much. I always liked the idea of an instrument that will make sound on its own if you leave it alone, that you have to mess with to get it to not just keep doing its own thing. I feel like you could do so much stuff with this.
I like the electromechanical aspects of this. You can make an organ out of any mixer with tunable EQ and feedback. I did this with a large Mackie console last year, each channel can be tuned to separate pitches.
Gotta say your instruments and pedals are very different from anything else. Love the pioneer attitude your instruments have. And feedback is one of my favorite techniques to use in music! The drum jam especially was amazing!
This is such a great idea. I'm imagining it with the option of volume knobs that can click into place at certain intervals so you can easily return to certain feedback conditions. This project can go so far. Great work!
@@hellf.o Eeeeehhhh ne ho un paio in cantiere di molto intriganti ma ci vorrà ancora un po' perché sto facendo tutta la serie sull'improvvisazione al momento. Comunque arrivano, promesso ;)
This got me thinking of something. The feedback machine is a kind of deterministic pseudo-randomizing machine. Put clean input in and the output emits scrambled feedback audio. It's deterministic because there is a repeatable pattern to the feedback production (the delay, volume, tube size, type of audio input, etc), It's pseudo random because you can restore the settings to reproduce the effect you produced at another time. So, there must exist scrambled input that could be run through the feedback machine that would "randomize" into clean output effectively reversing the feedback. If you built two of these machines, there might be a setting that unscrambles the feedback of another machine if they were connected.
Wow, that's a really interesting idea, it really got me thinking! I have to say, now...I think it's not possible, for this reason: The feedback production "algorithm" is a one-way operation, that is to say, there is data loss...mainly bc distortion introduces clipping, which destroys information in the signal. There are some ways to recreate the missing part of the signal, but those are mainly digital, plus they can introduce their own distortion/artifacts...which may in fact be interesting in their own right.
Will you experiment with vibrating cables at specific frequencies? I’m wondering if that would be able to effect the sound. Or even create a note from a blank signal.
Well I just have to say. This is going to become my favorite song for the rest of my life! I'll listen to it over and over and over again. It is so excellent! It's a complete breakthrough in music. Music will never be the same after this. This changes everything!
What an incredible idea. Love it. I bet there could be a global aftermarket for addons. You could have fluid filled tubes, or tubes within tubes or tubes that link multiple units together. The possibilities are endless. 😂 Rock on!
I have a sketch in my notebook from a few months ago of something very similer! except my idea was to make a pvc pipe set up like a trombone slide that was about 2meters long and adjustable. I think your approach is alot more elegant and of course has way more features! amazing to see. ty
That's the way how things go... Go on, never stop (please)!!! It's a kind of comprehensive and overlapping philosophy without any words in any way - and it's a gift for sounddesign, musicmaking and transcendental experiences 🤩😃😘👍🤘
Look up a, "Leslie Cabinet" to see a similar idea. It a design from the 1950s that used a rotating funnel over a speaker to create a wah/tremelo type of sound for guitars and organs. I used to have one back in the Day... ;)
There’s a bass drum micing technique where you take a hose and put it in front of the drum with a microphone in one end to get more low end into the mix. I wonder how outside sounds would influence the sounds going through the reverb tubes
I was totally hoping for this after the last experiments. Nice. I wonder if you could hook up some kind of occarina-like chamber with multiple holes somewhere in the middle of a pipe and play different notes
you could get like a trombone slide and hook it up to the tubes, change the tube length at will. Or hook up like a euphonium or trumpet, one tube where the mouthpiece goes and one shoved inside the bell
It both looks and sounds like it came straight out of 60s Horror Sci-Fi B-Movie, in the best possible way! Maybe the story is that a mad scientist built a machine that can suck all the lost souls out of the ether, and then gets them forever circulating round the tubes in his horror feedback organ!
I really love the industrial vibe a lot of your gadgets have. It reminds me a lot of Igorrr. I think some of your creations would fit in so well in their music.
Do you think that maybe more physical separation between the microphone and speaker will make a better less coupled at certain frequencies version? How much isolation is there inside the box between those two I wonder at certain frequencies?
Was scrolling through and saw the thumbnail and not the bottom line. Thought to myself "That's something crazy like Simon the Magpie would like". And then I scrolled back to see, of course, it Was Simon
what a beast simon! didnt see that coming haha. well good! hainbach and i was jamming on some hose pipes the other day but nothing this spectacular!!!!! such a neat package. awesome
I'm going to start using that as a compliment. "Hey man, neat package"
@@JUNK_ZONE thanks man, yours is pretty good too.
@@klonewavverr2909even funnier that the username of the account sharing these package compliments is Junko
@@JUNK_ZONEMind if I jam on your hose pipes?
This neat package by Simon The Magpie could be used to make weird house music synths. It could be called Feedback House. :) Also, cool username Mr. Look Mum, No Computer.
This brings a whole new level to the tube vs solid state discussion.
acoustic saturation i gueess this is
Yeah I only use Sovtek garden hoses, you can literally feel the difference
this made my tube into a solid state
little filter to rein this bad boy in and some reverb and you got an ambient master piece
Yes, pls. exactly, and maybe tubes in primary colors! Otherwise, brilliant!
@@stagnatic - LEDs near the mics that illuminate the tube, partly for The Look, partly as status indicators ;)
Hey Simon, could you do a little sonic experiment, by running sound through an object and then back into the organ? I mean like putting the open ends of two tubes in a metal container. Or something else that could resonate nicely.
Smart!! I will😁 thank you
@@SimonTheMagpie 😃 Your welcome! Love your stuff!
That’s what I was thinking! Also what if you had a ‘T’ splitter so both ends could be hooked up to the organ, but then connect some resonant thing to the middle (does that make sense?)? It seems infinitely tinkerable!
Hell yeah. You could vocalise and percussion into it too. Actually you could have a whole bunch of different sized ones and different materials
Feedback hoses rule. Which is a sentence likely never uttered in the world prior to Magpie madness. I am going to repurpose some old cpap tubes to patch up mine when it arrives!
This is the coolest thing ever. Everybody else is just making sampler grooveboxes lol. Nice to see something truly original
I wanna see copper tubes and have flute like tone holes cut into it. As added . I think you onto something great here to establish and expand concept of resonates
This is brilliant! It's like an ouroboros swallowed a talkbox and pedalboard.
I just can't work out what the ideal drugs are
Me: "Tube-powered pedals have been around for a long time already, Simon."
Me, 30 seconds later: "Oh, _tubes"_ 😅🙄
If you cut a hose the scale length of a guitar, you can use its frets to measure out and cut the other hoses according to on which fret the interval lands
True :o
Genius
this is brilliant. really impressed with how you came up with this so organically. yay, good job!
hes the magpie
true
Ya know I've heard he's the magpie
@@theothertonydutch many have been saying this
Coo coo ca choo
Indeed
this is my favorite magpie pedals thing
I'm glad you keep taking this idea further. This is fun!
What you've done here is created a fantastic intrustment for a sci fi DJ to use. Just musical enough that it could theoretically become some weird genre heard in very strange clubs in distant planets. 😂
Alternatively, you've built a machine that makes sorting algorithm ASMR without the sorting algorithm part.
I could see this being used as part of a future David Lynch film score
I saw you.. at the football game.
@@elephantapede oh yeah?
Shoutout to The Swarm
@@kengruz669 You need to listen to some David Lynch albums if you haven't yet. 'Football Game' is a good track on Crazy Clown Time.
that feedback organ you like is coming back in style
Serious comment: I wonder how this would work in a room with a loud PA system, or just near speakers. My guess is that it is going to resonate all of the sounds through those tubes. If it is then going into the PA it will create a whole other feedback loop, which could be dangerous of course! But there are some neat ideas there for reverb and delays, etc.
Quite innovative. I like it.
Dangerous...and cool!
cool idea, lets ad some baffles with a rotating disk with holes cut in it, and a speed control.
Look up a, "Leslie Cabinet" to see a similar idea. It a design from the 1950s that used a rotating funnel over a speaker to create a wah/tremelo type of sound for guitars and organs. I used to have one back in the Day... ;)
Listening to this made me have the sensation that I had burned my nosehairs, at about 7 mins and 47 seconds in. No, really, it did. More of a smell than a discomfort. Who knew that listening to feedback loops would give you synesthesia?
I can't tell if reading this created this sensation or if it happened naturally
@@adamkumpmusic I guess we'll never know.
Idea: stick a speaker tube and a mic tube into your nose
So ,it gave you a stroke? That means that its either really good,or really bad!👍😜🤖
Yeah, smelling something burning is a sign of stroke, if it really was that significant you may want to get yourself checked out
I love this so much. I always liked the idea of an instrument that will make sound on its own if you leave it alone, that you have to mess with to get it to not just keep doing its own thing. I feel like you could do so much stuff with this.
I like the electromechanical aspects of this. You can make an organ out of any mixer with tunable EQ and feedback. I did this with a large Mackie console last year, each channel can be tuned to separate pitches.
the 3d printed distributer caps made me smile
Man I loved that final track
Lovely invention Simon!!!
Gotta say your instruments and pedals are very different from anything else. Love the pioneer attitude your instruments have. And feedback is one of my favorite techniques to use in music! The drum jam especially was amazing!
Thank you very much 😁 I always try to come up with as fun ideas as possible since I myself have to go through the process of making it 😆
This is such a great idea. I'm imagining it with the option of volume knobs that can click into place at certain intervals so you can easily return to certain feedback conditions.
This project can go so far. Great work!
The video I was expecting: acoustic and electronic feedbacks in the same machine, cannot ask for more!
A quando il prossimo N.I.M.B video carissimo? 😁
Adoro il tuo canale ed è un piacere trovarti qui 👍
@@hellf.o Eeeeehhhh ne ho un paio in cantiere di molto intriganti ma ci vorrà ancora un po' perché sto facendo tutta la serie sull'improvvisazione al momento. Comunque arrivano, promesso ;)
You are a creative mastermind
This got me thinking of something. The feedback machine is a kind of deterministic pseudo-randomizing machine. Put clean input in and the output emits scrambled feedback audio. It's deterministic because there is a repeatable pattern to the feedback production (the delay, volume, tube size, type of audio input, etc), It's pseudo random because you can restore the settings to reproduce the effect you produced at another time.
So, there must exist scrambled input that could be run through the feedback machine that would "randomize" into clean output effectively reversing the feedback. If you built two of these machines, there might be a setting that unscrambles the feedback of another machine if they were connected.
A vocoder?
Wow, that's a really interesting idea, it really got me thinking! I have to say, now...I think it's not possible, for this reason: The feedback production "algorithm" is a one-way operation, that is to say, there is data loss...mainly bc distortion introduces clipping, which destroys information in the signal. There are some ways to recreate the missing part of the signal, but those are mainly digital, plus they can introduce their own distortion/artifacts...which may in fact be interesting in their own right.
Sounds like it would definitely be used to make a scifi horror movie.
Finally someone mentions Jimi in comments; imagining him burning one of these in a live show 🤓 very inspired
I used to do the same thing licking the cables on the guitar amp.
Thats cool
Transpose on the output would be deadly
what a great device!
"Feel it, rather than enjoy it" is a slogan worthy of a T-shirt
😆😆
Tell the paper to stop looking at me, ok?
Are you getting paranoid yet? 😁
@@RaverOperator I'm not paranoid, who told you thatI'm paranoid? How do they know about me? WHO SENT YOU?
@@MLoerAudio 😂😂🤗
No!!!!
Dear Magpie, I'm a big fan of the direction you're going in
That's really cool.
Sold out already. Nice job!
Genius idea!
Hurray for the Magpie ! So much fun!
Excellent! Extremely usable sounds. Love it!
Will you experiment with vibrating cables at specific frequencies? I’m wondering if that would be able to effect the sound. Or even create a note from a blank signal.
Super cool idea. It will surely sound different in each one's hands!
Wow this is crazy
Well I just have to say. This is going to become my favorite song for the rest of my life! I'll listen to it over and over and over again. It is so excellent! It's a complete breakthrough in music. Music will never be the same after this. This changes everything!
What an incredible idea. Love it. I bet there could be a global aftermarket for addons. You could have fluid filled tubes, or tubes within tubes or tubes that link multiple units together. The possibilities are endless. 😂 Rock on!
I have a sketch in my notebook from a few months ago of something very similer! except my idea was to make a pvc pipe set up like a trombone slide that was about 2meters long and adjustable.
I think your approach is alot more elegant and of course has way more features! amazing to see. ty
That's the way how things go... Go on, never stop (please)!!! It's a kind of comprehensive and overlapping philosophy without any words in any way - and it's a gift for sounddesign, musicmaking and transcendental experiences 🤩😃😘👍🤘
You should try lengthy corrugated tubes.
Beauty is in the eye (and ear) of the beholder. Rock on man!
I guess I'll go enjoy my summer vacation now.
What do you think if you put 2 motors to rotate the 2 set of mic and speakers to create kind of rotary speakers
Look up a, "Leslie Cabinet" to see a similar idea. It a design from the 1950s that used a rotating funnel over a speaker to create a wah/tremelo type of sound for guitars and organs. I used to have one back in the Day... ;)
What would be great to have is a CV input for Dach voice, so you coupd play it more rythmically
awesome stuff! how about some cv inputs for eurorack modulation? :)
The most magpie video i've seen yet!
If this had midi to contrôle the knobs and switch that would be EPIC for generative noise sequencing
All of this feedback stuff is so ridiculously cool
You should find a funnel that fits the tube and that can be a microphone
What about making inputs for every individual speaker so it plays and feeds back multiple sounds at once?
7:09 It's begin of "Ave Maria" ??
Just flipping gorgeous
Aaaah. More whimsical madness. Also the live sound engineer’s worst nightmare! Bold frontier, here we come! Greetings from New Mexico!
Nuts, very cool. I feel like this should go through a talk box
oh how about sends/returns after every mic, so you can have individual effects on voices? :)
That was my first thought as well.
Yes
Pretty cool I must say Simon!
Absolutely love this contraption! If I was still making music I'd be all over this.
Fascinating. I could see adding a variable bandwidth low-pass filter to smooth out some of the buzziness.
love this one
There’s a bass drum micing technique where you take a hose and put it in front of the drum with a microphone in one end to get more low end into the mix. I wonder how outside sounds would influence the sounds going through the reverb tubes
12:15 is a whole mf'ing vibe
it reminds me a bit of the sherman filterbank
Whoa... this is extraordinarily bizarre and awesome!
Poste Nord says mine is on the way.
I was totally hoping for this after the last experiments. Nice.
I wonder if you could hook up some kind of occarina-like chamber with multiple holes somewhere in the middle of a pipe and play different notes
Brother this is sick I love it
Genius. Great sounds
So good! It's a winner on the drums.
Please make more :)
you could get like a trombone slide and hook it up to the tubes, change the tube length at will. Or hook up like a euphonium or trumpet, one tube where the mouthpiece goes and one shoved inside the bell
It both looks and sounds like it came straight out of 60s Horror Sci-Fi B-Movie, in the best possible way! Maybe the story is that a mad scientist built a machine that can suck all the lost souls out of the ether, and then gets them forever circulating round the tubes in his horror feedback organ!
As a fellow Simon, I just want to recognize how similar Simon's can be. Love your channel mane
Absolutely amazing idea. When will you release the eurorack compatible version? haha
It's bad enough having a mess of patch cables everywhere. You want a bunch of plastic tubing along with that?
While I agree it’s ve an ergonomic nightmare, I bet they’d sell like hotcakes
While I agree it’s ve an ergonomic nightmare, I bet they’d sell like hotcakes
This one is a banger genius idea. Please make as many as possible and take my money, kind sir. I beg you.
I really love the industrial vibe a lot of your gadgets have. It reminds me a lot of Igorrr. I think some of your creations would fit in so well in their music.
Do you think that maybe more physical separation between the microphone and speaker will make a better less coupled at certain frequencies version? How much isolation is there inside the box between those two I wonder at certain frequencies?
Love this! So much to create with it.
Out of stock already G!
On the subject of making another.... BIGGER!
Reminds me a bit of the Lyra 8 in both concept and sound. Very cool
Yup,- Exactly !
I just can't stop looking at the paper!! IT's like an eyeball magnet!!!!!!
Was scrolling through and saw the thumbnail and not the bottom line. Thought to myself "That's something crazy like Simon the Magpie would like".
And then I scrolled back to see, of course, it Was Simon
Would be a fantastic pair with the Lyra 8
What if you made the tubes with PVC pipes like the blue man group 'Drumbone'. So you could change the length of the pipes while playing it.
Splendid !
If you cut holes in a longish tube, and played it with your fingers you'd have a feedback bagpipe
Do you WANT to summon Cthulhu? Cause I reckon that's how you summon Cthulhu!
This is brilliant, Simon.
YES DUDE
i always wanted to make something like this. perfectly executed keep it up
Thank-you for being you.
i sounds like the main character is being fed the secrets of the universe after he found a monolith on the surface of the moon