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thanks for including actual subtitles! (as opposed to the YT generated subtitles that are usually incorrect) I have an auditory processing disorder and struggle with scientific names especially, so this is a huge help to be able to read along with the video 😊
I'll actually take a closer look the next time I decide to visit my country's natural history museum. I loved dinosaurs since I was a kid and I still have that "bug" of wanting to learn more, even if it's out of my field of work. I heard somewhere something along the lines of "when you stop learning, you start dying" and, somehow, I've kept my curiosity intact from when I was a kid.
This is fascinating. The cancers might have been linked. The chest cancer may have metastsised to the brain, as they do today, causing increasingly severe headache as it enlarged. Bone tumours cause severe pain in modern sufferers, and the reasons for this also existed in this dinosaur, so between the headache and the bone pain this animal would have been really struggling. Brain tumours cause unsteady walking and/or poor balance, predisposing to falls. They almost always also cause seizures, maybe during a fall or seizure the jaw damage & leg fracture occurred. The animal couldn't get up & died where he fell. Bone cancers will metastasise to soft tissue besides brain, so this unlucky creature may have had cancers in lungs/air sacs, liver, muscles etc which in humans makes them feel really ill and breathless. Also, multiple bone lesions, as here, release large amounts of calcium into the bloodstream, really messing up the blood chemistry, causing severe nausea & vomiting, and increasing confusion leading eventually to coma & death. I don't know if dinosaur body chemistry responded as mammals do to these changes, but reptiles maintain tight homeostasis, as do birds. It's not unreasonable to assume that dinosaurs did too, and that uncontrollable deviations from normal would have produced unpleasant symptoms. Poor creature had a miserable last few weeks, but we are so lucky that he was the occasional cadaver that got preserved in the first place, and then found millions of years later - against incredible odds!
@@sandyhenderson441 More and more it seems likely that this cancer did lead to its ultimate demise, not directly, but through indirect symptoms maybe leading to its fall breaking its leg.
What a fascinating video! Understanding the pathologies dinosaurs suffered with really helps you to imagine and understand what life might have been like for them!
As the bones are better examined better, more cancer is being found in dinosaur remains but was it common? Not really. The Centrosaurus died in a flood and was one out of hundreds that died in its herd. An ancient turtle had osteosarcoma. A T-Rex was found to have benign tumours. A few, but not many.
Absolutely real animals with real lives. But a "good boy"? Something that would happily eat you or me, is something that I would hesitate to label this way...
Considering people will get attached to, and raise massive modern predators today, I have no doubt this could be a good boi. People have raised bears, lions, and hyenas. Then there's the orphaned elephants, rhinos, deer.... people will adopt and bond with anything.
I turned off the video, quite reluctantly, after less than a minute because the distraction caused by the totally superfluous embedded subtitles was just too much. What possessed you people to do that?! If you want to help the hearing-impaired, good for you, but do it by means of closed captions.
@@houstonmuseum Um, it's not audio-only, not quite. You included helpful visuals of what you're talking about, and if I only heard the video I would not benefit from them. And, of course, if it _were_ audio-only, embedded text would still be superfluous to the able-eared.
@frankheilingbrunner7852 I "see" what you mean. Just letting you also know it's technically available in podcast apps 🦖🤘 open.spotify.com/show/4XuipbRMTrJu9WH9Y8m6Ya?si=cerrn3Y5ROG50SOEz9wFQg
Take the "HMNS Beyond Bones Podcast" with you anywhere! 🦖❤
Spotify
open.spotify.com/show/4XuipbRMTrJu9WH9Y8m6Ya?si=029668e1830740b3
Apple
podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/beyond-bones/id1612897615
I love it when nerds get talking about what they love. The passion really comes through.
thanks for including actual subtitles! (as opposed to the YT generated subtitles that are usually incorrect) I have an auditory processing disorder and struggle with scientific names especially, so this is a huge help to be able to read along with the video 😊
Started crying when he said “that makes him a good boy”. I lost my kitty cat to cancer last year. He was a good boy too.
I'll actually take a closer look the next time I decide to visit my country's natural history museum. I loved dinosaurs since I was a kid and I still have that "bug" of wanting to learn more, even if it's out of my field of work. I heard somewhere something along the lines of "when you stop learning, you start dying" and, somehow, I've kept my curiosity intact from when I was a kid.
Depending on the type of cancer, they might've had lytic bone metastasis, making their bones fragile and increase the risk of fractures. Poor thing.
This is fascinating. The cancers might have been linked. The chest cancer may have metastsised to the brain, as they do today, causing increasingly severe headache as it enlarged.
Bone tumours cause severe pain in modern sufferers, and the reasons for this also existed in this dinosaur, so between the headache and the bone pain this animal would have been really struggling.
Brain tumours cause unsteady walking and/or poor balance, predisposing to falls. They almost always also cause seizures, maybe during a fall or seizure the jaw damage & leg fracture occurred. The animal couldn't get up & died where he fell.
Bone cancers will metastasise to soft tissue besides brain, so this unlucky creature may have had cancers in lungs/air sacs, liver, muscles etc which in humans makes them feel really ill and breathless.
Also, multiple bone lesions, as here, release large amounts of calcium into the bloodstream, really messing up the blood chemistry, causing severe nausea & vomiting, and increasing confusion leading eventually to coma & death.
I don't know if dinosaur body chemistry responded as mammals do to these changes, but reptiles maintain tight homeostasis, as do birds. It's not unreasonable to assume that dinosaurs did too, and that uncontrollable deviations from normal would have produced unpleasant symptoms.
Poor creature had a miserable last few weeks, but we are so lucky that he was the occasional cadaver that got preserved in the first place, and then found millions of years later - against incredible odds!
@@sandyhenderson441 More and more it seems likely that this cancer did lead to its ultimate demise, not directly, but through indirect symptoms maybe leading to its fall breaking its leg.
I have End stage kidney failure so feeling some empathy for him
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What a fascinating video! Understanding the pathologies dinosaurs suffered with really helps you to imagine and understand what life might have been like for them!
Exactly! Bridges the gap of eons to feel like they were here just yesterday.
I love my museum!! 51 years, born and raised in this great city.....LOVE HOUSTON ! !
Fantastic video, and as you say, it really brings these animals to life in a unique way.
5:21 The pretty girl walking by made him lose his train of thought for a second. 😂
it doesnt rly seem like it, he was just pausing for breath
from his pov she wouldve been largely obscured by the guy
Would like more closeups of the bones rather than the static distant view.
this is so underrated
Gorgosaurs is one of my fav dinosaurs!😁🦖
7:35 this part started to get my feelings lol
damn I'm tearing up cause of this poor gorgosaurus
Really like this video cause the lecture with dinosaur background ❤
This is awesome content y'all!
I ran it so small I didnt notice them.
6:56 Whaaat?.... 🤣
Is it common for dinosaurs to have bone cancer?
Cancer is common in lots of animals. Its always been around.
As the bones are better examined better, more cancer is being found in dinosaur remains but was it common? Not really.
The Centrosaurus died in a flood and was one out of hundreds that died in its herd. An ancient turtle had osteosarcoma. A T-Rex was found to have benign tumours.
A few, but not many.
Yo my school went to a field trip to the same museum
❤what bite back the gorgosaurus
Interesting
Absolutely real animals with real lives. But a "good boy"? Something that would happily eat you or me, is something that I would hesitate to label this way...
Right. He wouldn't have been a pet. Lol
Considering people will get attached to, and raise massive modern predators today, I have no doubt this could be a good boi.
People have raised bears, lions, and hyenas. Then there's the orphaned elephants, rhinos, deer.... people will adopt and bond with anything.
All animals will eat you to survive the willingness to do so doesn’t mean they can’t be “good boys”
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And who kept them as pets? Silurians or antediluvian humans right before Noah's ark?
Wolves also ate humans and yet we domesticated them lmao
Did their necks really get held up with their spine in a V like that?
I turned off the video, quite reluctantly, after less than a minute because the distraction caused by the totally superfluous embedded subtitles was just too much. What possessed you people to do that?! If you want to help the hearing-impaired, good for you, but do it by means of closed captions.
Good thing it is also an audio-only podcast, then ;)
Your point is duly noted though.
@@houstonmuseum Um, it's not audio-only, not quite. You included helpful visuals of what you're talking about, and if I only heard the video I would not benefit from them.
And, of course, if it _were_ audio-only, embedded text would still be superfluous to the able-eared.
@frankheilingbrunner7852 I "see" what you mean. Just letting you also know it's technically available in podcast apps 🦖🤘
open.spotify.com/show/4XuipbRMTrJu9WH9Y8m6Ya?si=cerrn3Y5ROG50SOEz9wFQg
This is fixable by holding your thumb over the base of the screen. Not a particular hardship, I'd have thought...
@BiTurbo228 I also framed it to make it work on phones and tablets when filling their screens to crop out the subtitles.